Announcing Vendettas, Co-op multiplayer for The Darkness II
We're excited to announce Vendettas, a new narrative-based Co-op mode for The Darkess II! It features four new playable characters and a story that runs parallel to the single-player campaign. Johnny Powell returns to give the details, so check out the new trailer for more info!
I think I'll skip this mode altogether. It looks completely f'ing ridiculous. Really...a witch doctor, an axe-wielding Scotsman, a guy with a cursed Samurai sword & an ex-special forces chick with a magic shotgun? Whose ass did they pull these ideas from? In my opinion it's better to have no multiplayer than bad multiplayer.
I was all on board until now, I can't believe they're trying to tie this ridiculous BS into the canon of the original game.
Also...did 'Big Jimmy' look exactly like Sheamus from the WWE to anyone else?
Last edited by Hunterssoldier; 12-06-2011 at 10:37 PM.
multiplayer games like deathmatch etc, do not really interest me.
The co-op mode that is brought into the game like vendettas might turn out interesting.
Having the co-op mode actually play a role into the story mode of the single player is thus a nice touch.
However I must agree with Hunterssoldier, the playable characters might me doubtable...
I think first I would like to see how Jackie gets into touch with them, it's pretty weird you just happen
to know a witch doctor etc who all also just happen to have a part of YOUR darkness power.
All by all, I will still play the co-op mode, though I'm not sure yet if I will like that part of the story.
woah that was ....retarded -.-' , damn it seems the darkness is becoming worse than i anticipated its as if i was right all along , well.. well see in 2 months what it will be but at this stage i really dont see any improvements and instead of improving the complexity of jackies darkness powers or further polishing the graphics etc what do they do they do THIS !! they mustve played through the game so many times in the past months that theyve gotten so bored they dont know what to do ....no further comment on this -.-'
hell theyre even using the same gore effects did you notice it not ,for example the witch doctor twisting the guy untill he ripped and voila a clean cut? you gotta be kidding after doing that his body wouldve been anything BUT cut clean in half and thats just one example ,to that comes exit and entry wounds theyre like nonexistent and blood decals like splatter but no fluid effects nor hardly any decals that stick? hell even the darkness 1 had done better than that and without the generic gorefest not to mention the horrible facial animations theyre like puppets half or theyre face is asleep or something xD , hell wouldnt be suprised if the best thing in this game was simply the narrator xD and much more but im not gona go on about all the things that have been done wrong since the list would be a long one and it wouldnt change anything at all as usual ...-.-' real hard work is being put into this sequel im starting to see ...dont make me laugh -.-'
Last edited by 2K David; 12-09-2011 at 04:26 PM.
Way to bum them down guys!!! C'mon!!!!!! They put all that hard work to create something amazing and all you can do is complain?
2K! I think this looks very well and interesting, did anyone else noticed that the four players are in fact the 4 skills trees of jackie? one is master of melee another ranged another more magic based and another is tank based. in my opinion its ingenious!!
I say fire the guy who said that "black holes" come from heart, and give his job to the same person who came up with the multiplayer in this way. if they happen to be the same guy, then slap him on the face and tell him "really? black hole hears? what were you smoking dude!!"
on a side note for those who dont know what i mean: I say black hole should be a rechargable skill, not an item skill -- as in heart falls you have to catch it and throw it . . . that is just dumb!!
but this multiplayer looks fun, and I like it, maybe if you share a little more on the story? that would be nice.
yeah i agree that almost everything i see on this forum is complaints and now its getting a little ridiculous. I mean, is there really anything that people actually LIKE about the game?
I am pretty happy about the coop addition. Now i will be able to destroy the brotherhood with my friends online!
ingenious?amazing?hard work? please... dont make me laugh cause you actually made me laugh there for a sec -.-', hell if this is hard work i dont wanna know what starbreeze has been workin and they emselfes even admitted they didnt put that much work into it,even thou considering that fact they even planned on putting the angelus in until they realized the deadline was getting to close for comfort so they decided not to put that fight in ,you can see the concept art in the darkness 1 game, and this "sequel" is worse in almost every way except the story and thats NOT digital extremes doing ,and you say they put in hard work? suuuureee...just in the completely wrong direction -.-',ok!! there is a market for gamers that dont care about quality,substance etc anymore im happy for the industry, less work more money or more work but totally wasted on the wrong matter -.-',btw youre not complaining i asume?, lolz xDOriginally Posted by Afsoon Baharzade
Last edited by deathnote; 12-08-2011 at 09:14 AM.
did they put alot of work in it sure i can imagine those handpainted textures didnt paint emselves but the funny thing is NOBODY asked for this ,from the beginning it was the devs decision hell if they wouldve actually been interested in what the community thinks they wouldve asked but they didnt as you can see or atleast stopped and actually thought about what they was doing there for a moment but no , they got it all figured out ,revolutionary gameplay ,actual innovative and great ideas , god forbid better graphics then darkness 1 or a more open world? hardly... lolz,the funny thing about all of this is if youve been following the interviews they keep on repeating and repeating the same sentence ...graphic "noir" style ...blarghhh is what they wanted to catch so youd feel as if you was playing the comic , hell now the irony of it all is they got it all backwards!! what they shouldve done is get closer to the comic universe in terms of gameplay and story not borderlands styled cellshading with "handpainted" textures oh boy all that wasted work whereas couldve been spent on making this a real true sequel makes my gut cringe..... anyhow
sure we all will play it ,but its gona be far from what we couldve experienced if it was done in the right manner thats what this is all about, right manner? for an explanation on that you just have to look up the thread i did a while back about digital extremes , its not complaints its constructive feedback if it was complaints wed see no need to explain and just foul mouth the game a big difference , what we hope to achieve with this is what others wanted to achieve over at montreal about deus ex hr ....that would be for devs to actually read the forums and improve the game by all the feedback the members here are leaving , but thats not happening , it didnt for deus ex hr and it wont for the darkness II well theres still hope that alot of people that like to play coop and destroy the brotherhood with theyre friends online will buy more than one copy of the game so there will be a reason to make a 3rd part and it better NOT be digital extremes then or ill give up hope on the darkness as a game -.-'
a scottsman? a witch doctor? a assasin? a whatever.. im suprised they didnt put in samurai jack etc or let you play the bagpipes in order to finish youre opponent lolz xD...why not call it left 4 dead 3 or braveheart , hell this is literally turning into a joke the darkness isnt supposed to be "funny" nor a slapstick comedy, its supposed to be dark and gritty and comedy simply has no place in this game a darkling pissing on corpses etc is ok but this is overboard -.-' , ridiculous and sad is what it is, how is one supposed to stay positive about this when they just take a big dump on youre face, not cool -.-'
p.s: i wouldnt be suprised if every single game that releases in the future will be a must mod item from day one in order to be able to enjoy it abit,due to the lack of common sense devs are using nowadays or better said have no idea what to do , no joke and ive seen it ,modding has increased over the years tenfold this isnt something to brag about. i just hope this wont become some sort of trend as said -.-'
hell theres other examples i could mention like devil may cry 5 with an anorexic kid replacing dante or ninja gaiden 3 without gore nor entry or exit cut wounds etc for just a few examples and quickly you will see where all this is going too , but as i am a real darkness fan this thing that is being called the darkness 2 is really painfull to watch develop into such a gunk ,peace
Last edited by deathnote; 12-08-2011 at 09:05 AM.
just so we are on the right side of the table, starbreeze had his own engine, 2K had to deal with a completely new engine. you may wikipedia "game engine" if you dont know what that is.
sure, I complain, but i offer suggestions, i oppened a thread and made 3 solutions on how my problem can be solved, never came up and say "hey this just looks bad, and there is no way to fix it, why do you destroy it?!".
the multiplayer idea is just brilliant. the idea that they are substituting jackie is a tricky developer move that i didnt saw coming. if you didnt know by now, jackie can only exist in First person view, because of its sepents he cannot be made (at least in a descent way) in third person move. I say this was a cheap move but they found a brilliant solution to cover up this cheap method. This is how i imagine it went:
developer(dev): hey we cant show jacki in any form other than fps
creative director(cd): then we would have problem for multiplayer
dev: im afraid so
cd; here is a thought, we create a complete set of new characters and story and we add a new whole story to it.
dev: sound cheap! but i like it!!
cd; lets do this.
CEO: thanks alot for saving my american dollars, guess what? since your adding this new feature we will move the release date to february.
i know it went bad, but the solution was kinda brilliant if you see it from a business view. i could only imagine the CEO jumping around like a 10 yo when he heard about the news. you know . . . no one is gonna be happier with the release of this game.
the "solution" its as i said it was nothing else than a cheap move to add retarded multiplayer so they can say , oh looky here we do have multiplayer too so nobodys unhappy...my ass!!
a complete new engine digital extremes?yes its digital extremes AND 2k but main work is digital extremes , graphics and just about everything else, get youre facts straight,btw stop fooling yourself and read up before you state nonsense like that its a modified unreal 3 engine -.-'
and i sure as hell could care less about a "buisness" view since its clearly not what this move was its crystal clear, they was fn bored and didnt know what else to do !!! as ive said so many times already -.-'
and about the ceo all he wants is to finally sell the game he himself isnt interested in the substance nor quality of the game itself ,digital extremes have no clue about what the darkness really is, all they did was check a few comics and say hey lets do it make it "graphic noir" so A. we can use an outdated engine that runs smooth on old hardware aka consoles and B. covers up the old engines look -.-', as ive mentioned too many times already ,finish!
me not know what a game engine is suuuuuree bro whatever you say -.-', keep on buying the generic crap people produce and with a little luck you will never ever see a game with real intuitive gameplay or graphics , substance ever again , people these days ,are they really so easy to manipulate with a coupple of words?, what a sad world we have come to live in -.-'
p.s: that babble about 3rd person view was THE worst excuse ive ever heard gotta hand it to you, tell me you was joking or i officially can not take any further comments from you serious ,cause i know im talking to a 12 year old -.-'
update: mixed up duke nukem forever and the darkness engines for a sec nonetheless its an old engine polished to be made usable
Last edited by deathnote; 12-09-2011 at 02:51 AM.
Yay,just what I wanted most out of a Darkness game.sarcasm/
The more and more I hear about what Digital Extremes is doing to the franchise the less and less I want to play it.Still no plans for a public demo and still no answer of who's voicing Jackie
its ok bro i know exactly how you feel there aint many people that actually understand what the darkness actually is ,atleast from certain members on this forum and seeing what digital extremes is doing it would seem so , nor have completely grasped the first game its all good no need to get pissed off...NOT!! xD...-.-'
im just waiting for somebody to come by and say to me : calm down we havent even seen the entire story let alone all the powerz , theres so litle information...lolz , guess that one wont work anymore xD
Alright, I think I need to finally log in and post something. I've been keeping tabs on this game since I first heard about it and have been stopping by the forums on occasion to read official announcements.
But ever since I've been reading the posts by deathnote, the sheer amount of ignorance has compelled me to actually take the time to register and leave a message.
I could honestly pick apart everything you have said up until now and explain to you how each of your ideas are fundamentally wrong and your general english skills leave much to be desired as well. Instead I'll focus on your overall inability to provide a quality post that is little more than trolling.
You seem to like to say things and just say that they're "facts" without providing any amount of proof. Just because you say it does not mean it is true. For instance, where did you learn that it was a modified unreal 3 engine? I'm honestly interested in reading that article. A link would be great. If you can't provide it, then I'll continue to assume you just made that up.
That's just one example too. You talk about all the things that could apparently be added or changed so easily. To make such a bold claim again without providing any proof, you must've worked in video game development before. I mean, how else could you know what processes and challenges face them? I'd be really interested to know what games you worked on at least and if you're feeling generous, how you overcame obstacles such as schedule or limitations.
If you haven't worked on a game before, well then you're not really in a position to judge a developer for being lazy when you have no idea the process that goes behind it. I have no idea either, which is why I wouldn't make such ridiculous claims about something I don't understand. A similar example would be to proclaim that "Scientists are clearly lazy because they haven't cured AIDS yet. It's soooooo easy! You just have to kill the bad cells! C'mon science, step up your game to 2011." I am not a scientist, just as you are not a video game developer. You should really stop making ignorant statements such as the developer is being lazy.
Now, you're allowed to not like the art and you're allowed to not like the premise for the game. I have things about it that I think maybe could be done better based on the preview videos and announcements, but I'm going to reserve my judgement and criticism until I actually play the game instead of jumping to wild conclusions. My problem is the way you're presenting your complaints as though you can do better. If that's the case, actions speak louder than words. Especially poorly written words with stupid little faces at the end. I know I said I wouldn't talk about that, but damnit I can't help it.
ANYWAYS, to be slightly on topic, I'm wondering how these new characters will tie in to the single player game and if we can expect to see more of them in the future.
long time reader, frist time poster. i been watchin dethnote take some hits lately nd i decided dat it wuz time to step up nd say dat dis game looks str8 up busted. wut does Dig Xtreme think dey r doin 2 jackie? he's my boi. i been readin dem comics
sinc be4 i wuz born nd i kno 4 a fact dat tehre wuz no MP back tehn. i meen dats just stupiid. y would u hav 4 characters in 1 singel comic book? sumthin tells me dat DE dint even reed teh comics. just a
bunch fo kids who thot it wud be cool 2 steel from starbreez. dem guys no how 2 do MP rite. yo did u see dat syndikate trailer? it looks SO hot, yo. nd i bet it is just liek deh originl game tooxD. nd wut is with deh engine? i swer its liek st8 out
of unreel. y cud dehy not just use unreal5 or even cryengine3?its so simpel. probabyl becuz 2k wudnt let dem. lso y is dere only 1 darkling? i thot jackie had like 50 darklings. seems pretty gey dat dey would nerf teh darklings just kus starbreez isnt around.a
nd y cant jackiE thro cars n stuff? in teh comics he wuz all powerful n stuff n culd throw cars n sht. now he is all girly n stuff. if i wnted to throw a car door i wud just play kiddie batflied. also i dnt kno who dis charegoesround guy is but wtf bro. we wer havin a peeceful convo nd u had to bring in deh heat. y u gotta be liek dat? man i m liek 11ft tall nd i will easily take u out if u keep harpin on my boi dethnote. just chill out. we all goin buy
the game n e ways. ill prob get it on pC tho so i can mod it. i wnt to add skyrim dragons n sht. maek it more lik,e the comics den DE did. mabe il see u onlin sumtime dethnote.
n e ways bro. im out. i be bak 2mrw nite after i take my gurl out to mcdonals:P. pce.
-lucius
I'm pretty sure I just had a mild stroke reading your post. I... I don't have the energy for this right now.
LOL @ Lucius, you deserve a round of applause for that one.
Anyway back to the subject at hand. I'm still excited for the single player campaign because I love Jackie as a character & having Mike Patton returning as my favourite villain is a sell right there, but I just don't get what they're trying to do with this co-op mode.
Why should we care about this super-powered A Team that all look like circus clowns? I mean really, the first Darkness game was a gripping, sombre tale of power, loss & revenge, but now it's got all these wacky characters that seem to be just played for laughs. And this is supposed to be canon in the same storyline...wtf?
has already been reported no worries , trolls usually wont last long here exspecially ones that try to mimic me and fail hard while doing so...
ok whatever you say kid ,trying to mimic people in a ghetto slang wont get you anywhere take youre trolling ways somewhere else , come back once youve grown up , jeez kids these days unbelievable -.-'
no he doesnt and stop feeding the trolls -.-'
ok its the evolution engine a modified version of it,thou thats been around for a while too anyway so its not NEW ,i accidentally mixed it up with duke nukem forever wich uses a modified unreal 3 engine lolz xD my bad , but the rest is the way i see it ok , like you said i havent ever created a game myself and why would i have too, just in order to know how to make a true sequel? you just have to use some common sense and these things are possible even with 6 year old hardware -.-'
yes my grammar isnt perfect who cares? this is the internet and second yes i like using "smilies" xD
ive seen what people have done to "finished" games in the modding scene and that devs emselfes couldve pulled off BUT decided not to, due to consoles supposedly restraining them or not feel the need to etc . and the "noir" choice isnt something you brag about this has been theyre main marketing word , and that leaves little room for any positivity as said they got it backwards instead of trying to connect both universes so they have enough material for a 3rd and 4th part no they decide to focus on making the game look like a "comic" , no further comment on that one -.-'
hard work as i said sure they put in a ton of hard work i can imagine but as said completely in the wrong direction sorry bro but thats how i see it
ive seen those comments like yours over at eidos dx hr forums too but in the end after following them for 4 years dev,i was right , and guess what up till today i still havent made my own game -.-', and somebody named starbreeze is gonna release what dx hr shouldve been aka syndicate so no its not due to any "limitations" the only limitation is the dev to himself and this IS a fact, sheldon carter even said so, that they tried different ways but in the end they just couldnt get that "comic" look so what does that tell you ...HE WANTED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A COMIC FROM POINT 0, dont get me started about the gameplay and supposedly said "limitations" that apply to it , there are no limitations once again devs make those limitations nobody else -.-'
if everything would be as you said ...hell wed still be playing super mario bros or battle toads "due to limitations" lolz , that limitations etc remark of yours isnt one of the strong points in youre argument i tell you that -.-'
let me give you one more example the best one would be them releasing multiplayer has it been in dev for longer than 6 months ...NO!!! this was a last minute thing ok hell you have to be blind not to notice this -.-' , anyhow this is a great example of them BEING able to add or subtract new things,its what we call a sdk google it and while youre at it google modding and sdk both in one sentence perhaps youll understand then
i can see you clearly have never been into modding I HAVE ok that doesnt make me a game creator but atleast i know the basics and how a sdk works and what can and cannot be added into a game , once again anything can be done its only the devs that decide what to add, damn all these selfproclaimed "experts" make me sick in the gut , no wonder the industry is going downhill -.-'
Last edited by deathnote; 12-09-2011 at 03:09 AM.
Really...just edit your posts please.
This is starting to get a bit overblown.
and done xD
lissen bro i dnt kno wut u r tlkin about. i m on ur side wit all dis. also, i m not from the getto. i reprsent da burbs. now back 2 da task at hand. i toattly agree wit u wen u talk about limitation.s n stuff. the devs dont kno how
2 handle such a uniqe story liek jackies'. i meen even tho paul jenkins wrote the story, thos fools hav no idea wut they r doin wit it. they shuld hav had those pRototype guys maek the gam.e - dat way we culd hav jackie jumpin off roofs n sht. not dis kiddie stuff. i meen why only 1 darkling? i stil dont gt it. "liminations". i meen come on. rockstar culd make john marrston work in a big wild west wrld. y no DE? also i agree wit ur sUper Mario comment. who da hell
plays thos games n e more? last i herd deey sold bad n e ways. so fk dat. dis multiplayer was totally just a multi-layer.. meening it was added as en extra layer of cheeseXD BECUZ ITS JUST TACKED, bro. dnt worry bro. we will mod da fk out of dis game nd do it rite. im tlkin dragons; TAC ligh
ts, UAVs, 64-playr mP; nd mabe even ad one of dose action houses dat DiAblo 3 has. we culd make money nd everyting. nd i bet we culd do it in less den 6 months. no t like digt xtremes. mabe ev n add a mod tht removs the
cartoons n stuff. bring back da reel darknss. i mite even gt one of my bois do to a kirk avabrda voic n we cn mod dat int o teh game. i meen how hrd would it hv been to gt that guy? hw busy culd he be aftr 4 years of
waitin for dis gaem to com out. dont tell me he had othr work n stuff. the darkness is reel. it is lifve
salo i wnt to mod in my owen mP mod tht is liek BF mixxed wit gRan toursimmo. jst hav a darklin ride on jackis' back wit a rockt luncher shootin sht. bt jacki has da darkness so he runs at liek 60fps da whol time. nd u control de darkling as he shoots bros wit de rockets. n e ways bro imma start writin dis stuff down nd get bak 2 u. keep up da fite n stuff.
n e ways bro im tellin u we need to hit up sum mP wen dis coms ou.t
-lucius
"and done" was related to hunterssoldier post merge request not you -.-'
can someone please get rid of this troller come back once youve learned how to act like an adult, btw if you think this trolling of yours is funny you FAIL by it, sorry theres been better (facepalm) ,good day sir
well THIS must be where they get the inspiration from -.-'I think I'll skip this mode altogether. It looks completely f'ing ridiculous. Really...a witch doctor, an axe-wielding Scotsman, a guy with a cursed Samurai sword & an ex-special forces chick with a magic shotgun? Whose ass did they pull these ideas from? In my opinion it's better to have no multiplayer than bad multiplayer.
I was all on board until now, I can't believe they're trying to tie this ridiculous BS into the canon of the original game.
Also...did 'Big Jimmy' look exactly like Sheamus from the WWE to anyone else?
Last edited by deathnote; 12-09-2011 at 04:43 PM.
Posting criticism of what you've seen so far is fine, but please keep it respectful to the devs. Mocking personal appearances, for instance, is totally unacceptable. It's also important to avoid passing off speculation as confirmed fact.
Here's another look at the characters. They were created by Paul Jenkins, who wrote the original Darkness game, as well as several editions of the comic series.
The mode's a lot of fun, and has a tone that's distinct from the single-player game; it's definitely less serious than Jackie's story. Gameplay-wise, the characters' unique strengths help provide a slightly different playing experience when playing through Vendettas, and it'll be interesting to see which ones people pick as their favorites.
I came back on these forums to talk about the co-op and I see THIS happening to the forum?
Between deathnote and this lucius kid I don't even know who's trolling anymore. Yes, I dislike the co-op idea too but I'd rather not type like I'm 12 and straight out of 4chan. Really, I'm confused as to why the publishers thought it'd be a good idea to destroy the fundamentals of the first game like this. Really, I'm still going to play the campaign but this is just another line crossed. Just for replayability? Just for publicity? I get that it's less serious than Jackie's story but the whole point of The Darkness is that it's morbid and seriously toned.
And can we please ban the trolls instead of giving them infractions?
Hey there, talking about moderation in public threads is also against the forum guidelines, so if you have issues with the actions that have been taken, let's discuss 'em privately. Also, if there are any posts that you feel cross the line, please be sure and use the report tool, which will alert the mod team.
Getting back to the topic: Maybe I'm misunderstanding, I don't really see how this takes away from the first game. As I mentioned before, it (along with The Darkness II's main storyline) is being written by the person who wrote the first game; he has a good sense about what The Darkness is and how to create a story that fits into this universe.
It just doesn't seem to fit with the tone of the first game. That was a dark, haunting story with realistic characters (obviously except for The Darkness itself). But now we have a team of guys that look like they jumped straight out of a Dragon Ball cartoon with all sorts of hokey powers...a witch doctor who kills people with voodoo is about as far removed from the gritty mob violence of the original as I can imagine.
I guess it's already been said that there will be a very different tone between the two modes- with Vendettas being more light hearted- but it's still connected to the single player canon. Maybe when the game comes out it will all make sense, but I'm far more interested in Jackie's storyline than the schizophrenic looking co-op.
Edit: New characters video.
So they not only have Darkness infused weapons but actual powers as well? If Jackie is the host how do so many people possess the same supernatural abilities he does? The Scotsman can even summon multiple Darklings which he calls "Little Jimmys" (another WWE reference?)
Last edited by Hunterssoldier; 12-09-2011 at 07:44 PM.
Agreed,this co-op doesn't gel at all.First the different artstyle and more aggressive combat,Kirk's not returning and now this co-op.
First part: I'm sorry, I just got mad when I saw this board becoming overrun. My apologies for being uncouth.
Second part: Well, I just took the first game very seriously in the idea that it was dark, emotionally charged, and a bit scary. I supported the idea that the games and comic should be separate canons, and what I've seen so far just seems to lack continuity from the first game. I know this isn't Jackie's story, but it just seems tacked-on to me.
I never played any multiplayer at all in the first Darkness, but this co-op mode at least looks kind of different & more interesting than a generic deathmatch.
I'm still skeptical as to how well it will fit into Jackie's story in a believable way, but I'll reserve final judgment until I play it for myself.
yeah exspecially the tacked on darkness powers taken from jackie are very intuitive lolzers xD....-.-'
p.s: i too shall reserve final judgement until i play it ,hope everything weve seen up till now was just a trap xD
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