Battlefield

[Invader]

I saw there was a thread about Call of Duty and none about Battlefield, and that was just unacceptable. Anyway, discuss Battlefield here, be it 1942, Heroes or anything inbetween.

EDIT: For anyone who has for whatever reason not played Battlefield yet, there are a couple of free-to-play spin-offs of the series you can try:

Battlefield Heroes: the hyper-absurd 3rd-person slightly WWII-based costume party that is Battlefield Heroes consists of semi-large maps, insane outfits, vehicle warfare (jeeps, tanks, planes), three classes and two unique teams: the Royals (a sort of blend of the US and British armies) and the Nationals (Mostly Nazis, but with a hint of USSR). Quite different from other Battlefield games, but it still has at least a similar feel as far as some of the maps and the vehicle combat go. Something worth noting is that once you pick a team and a class you are stuck with it. Forevers. You can create multiple soldiers, though. Also, you have to pay money for guns and clothes. *Ahem* You will be able to find some clear similarities between this game and Team Fortress 2, but there are not all too many of them.

Battlefield Play4Free: the least originally named game in history. This game stays much more true to the series- which is hard to avoid, since it's basically a modified version of Battlefield 2. This game is first-person and is much more realistic, as it does not share the cartoon style of Heroes. It keeps some of the features originally unique to Heroes, such as character customization and having soldiers be committed to certain classes. However, you are not stuck with either team- teams cycle every other round. Surprise time: the teams are America and Russia. Yeah. Again, you pay for your guns and stuff. Worth noting: points you buy in Play4Free will be able to be spent in Heroes, and vice versa. This game features entertaining infantry combat, tanks, jet fighters, boats, amphibious APCs, normal APCs, combat helicopters, transport helicopters, little annoying helicopters, jeeps... the works. I hear it sort of resembles Counter-Strike, but I wouldn't know because I've never played CS.

[Fugue]

Single player reviews not great and I thought the beta was ****, think I'll pass, it's a concept that has been done to death, if it wasn't such a cash cow it would have died years ago.

[Invader]

Single player reviews not great and I thought the beta was ****, think I'll pass, it's a concept that has been done to death, if it wasn't such a cash cow it would have died years ago.

I can't tell, are you calling FPSes cash cows or are you just talking about Battlefield?

[Fugue]

modern military FPS, really enjoyed earlier COD/Battlefield games but they've got to a point of offering nothing new with each new release.

[Seasick]

Battlefield 3 looked interesting, but I did not enjoy how they gave PC versions better graphics.

[Invader]

Battlefield 3 looked interesting, but I did not enjoy how they gave PC versions better graphics.

Technical reasons, my friend. They were just barely able to get the Xbox to pull off 30 FPS- just about the bare minimum framerate you can have and still be able to play a game.

Going into BF3, you must know that the game can either be a blast or piss you the hell off. It's somewhat glitchy (there are big issues with the squad system, jeeps and even TANKS can get caught on rocks, servers can get laggy all of a sudden and disconnect you) and they made some general bad decisions, like making you have to unlock flares and missiles for jets and helicopters. Trust me, you're a sitting duck without those things.

On the whole, it's a fun game- when it's working right, at least. You need to remember to change up what classes and guns you use and remember to try out different game modes, or the game will get stale fast. So long as you do those things, you should have no problem. Also, remember to always watch your back! God, it sucks when you get knifed in the throat.

Also, Call of Duty charges for their "social media" service. Battlefield has a very in-depth (and free) equivalent. Here's my page. I've lost so many matches lately...

modern military FPS, really enjoyed earlier COD/Battlefield games but they've got to a point of offering nothing new with each new release.

That's completely understandable. I wasn't around (or old enough to be part of it) when the FPS era began, so it's not so stale for me. I guess that's why they're still so popular... and it probably explains all the damned squeakers you see- or hear, rather- in games like Call of Duty.

[The-Canadian]

I am having do much fun with BF3 right now =D

I love the jets, they are so much fun, an so are all the other vehicles. Guns feel good, sound is great, the game looks great, it is just awesome for me. The only complaints I have are when recons sit at the back or edges of the map and stay there not helping at all, especially when they are in my squad, and the support tards who sit in their spawn and spam mortars everywhere =/

[Invader]

I am having do much fun with BF3 right now =D

I love the jets, they are so much fun, an so are all the other vehicles. Guns feel good, sound is great, the game looks great, it is just awesome for me. The only complaints I have are when recons sit at the back or edges of the map and stay there not helping at all, especially when they are in my squad, and the support tards who sit in their spawn and spam mortars everywhere =/

Those mortars are freaking annoying. I play my fair share of Support, but when I play it I'm in the heat of the battle, keeping my teammates supplied and popping down my bipod now and then to mow down the bad guys.

And then I'll usually get hit with a mortar. T_T

[Atlas-]

I'm getting battlefield 3 for Christmas. I have to say it looks really good and it's the main competitor to CoD which is always good. Anyway I'm looking forward to getting it although I have to say that I don't know that much about it.

[Invader]

Trailer for the upcoming BF3 DLC. Jets with vertical takeoff... cool. F-35 FTW!

[Daddy Is Strong!]

I'm getting battlefield 3 for Christmas. I have to say it looks really good and it's the main competitor to CoD which is always good. Anyway I'm looking forward to getting it although I have to say that I don't know that much about it.

BF3 beats CoD in pretty much everyway.. The main difference being, one isn't easy to pick up and play. and actually takes skill.

I'm hoping to get BF3 really soon, I loved the bata and the game is simply amazing.

[The-Canadian]

BF3 beats CoD in pretty much everyway.. The main difference being, one isn't easy to pick up and play. and actually takes skill.

I'm hoping to get BF3 really soon, I loved the bata and the game is simply amazing.

Do it, I need somebody to actually play with who doesn't completely suck =p

[Siren]

BF3 beats CoD in pretty much everyway.. The main difference being, one isn't easy to pick up and play. and actually takes skill.

I'm hoping to get BF3 really soon, I loved the bata and the game is simply amazing.

of course bf3 beats cod, but it doesnt require much skill either xq
when i played i got at least 30 kills altogether, and at least half where from grenades. XD i didnt play long either btw
i did enjoy my time on it though!

[Invader]

Back to Karkand is out on PS3 now. It looks so freakin' awesome. I want a list of all the new guns included... I'll go find one and post it here.

EDIT: Courtesy of the Battlelog forums:

FAMAS:
10 Revives
10 Heals

HK53:
10 Repairs
1 Kill with Repair Tool

QBB-95
20 Kill with Light MG
2 Mortar Kills

QBU-88
20 Kills with Sniper
6 Lasermarker

PP-19
ARM 10 mcoms
get 10 Flags
play 2 hours karkand


Tier 2:

L85A2:
100 Kills with assualt rifle
20 Kills with Grenadelauncher
Win 5 Rounds of squad deathmatch

QBZ-95B:
50 Kills with AT rocket
Destroy one enemy vehicle with repair tool (lol)
Win 5 Rounds of Conquest

MG36:
100 Kills with Light MG
50 Surpression Assists
50 Ammo Packs Assist

L96:
50 Headshots
50 Spot Assists
5 Kills with Knife

MK3A1
10 Kills with pp19
6 Kills with DPV Jeep
10 Kills with BTR90 Tank
Play 2 Hours on Sharqi
Play 2 Hours on Golf of Oman

[Atlas-]

What the ☺☺☺☺ is up with the helicopters all I do is fly into the ground.

[Invader]

What the ☺☺☺☺ is up with the helicopters all I do is fly into the ground.

Ah, rookies...

You'll get the hang of them. They're working properly on every platform. Make sure you're giving it enough gas and not pushing too far on the analog sticks for too long. Keeping the helo steady is important.

[Atlas-]

Ah, rookies...

You'll get the hang of them. They're working properly on every platform. Make sure you're giving it enough gas and not pushing too far on the analog sticks for too long. Keeping the helo steady is important.

I just wish they would give you a tutorial rather than just plunging you into the thick of it in a helicopter seat and saying "fly that although you've never flown anything like it before."

EDIT: I'm tired of this game already it's "hey you can't find anyone because there's the same colour as the ☺☺☺☺ing scenery." or "Hey look you've found someone and you're dead now before you can pull the trigger" How the ☺☺☺☺ are you meant to enjoy a game where you die everytime you stick you're head out.

[Invader]

I just wish they would give you a tutorial rather than just plunging you into the thick of it in a helicopter seat and saying "fly that although you've never flown anything like it before."

EDIT: I'm tired of this game already it's "hey you can't find anyone because there's the same colour as the ☺☺☺☺ing scenery." or "Hey look you've found someone and you're dead now before you can pull the trigger" How the ☺☺☺☺ are you meant to enjoy a game where you die everytime you stick you're head out.

I was very annoyed that they didn't give a tutorial for jets. At first I didn't even know how to aim the main cannon. This isn't exactly the most polite thing to do, but try spamming Caspian Border (and Wake Island if you have it) in the server browser. Both of those maps have a huge focus on air combat, so they are a good place to practise. Sharqi Peninsula (a DLC map) and Damavand Peak (on Rush) also have a lot of focus on helicopters in particular. Play those maps for a while and you will gradually get better. That's how I learned. Remember that it is very important to get flares and heat-seekers unlocked, and know that there is no shame in being a noob.


Sometimes it's like that when you play. Just come back later and try again. Be sure to look more for movement than the shape or color of the bad guys, and it also helps to try and spot around for them (this puts a temporary red dot over their head for you and your team mates to see, and puts them on the minimap as long as someone has eyes on them). I think that is the "Select" button on the PS3 controller. Doing that has revealed more enemies than I can count that otherwise would have gotten me, and you also get a little point bonus if an enemy you spotted gets killed by a team mate. Also, always remember to watch your back. By always I mean ALWAYS. Avoid open areas as well, and if you need to move through a long hall like the alley on Grand Bazaar always move from cover to cover and go prone as often as possible. Never foget the value of suppressive fire- it may give you just long enough to escape a hot area and think things through. If you need to take out an enemy at a long distance, remember to fire in 3-5-round bursts and to never panic, as that will cause you to hold the trigger, miss every shot, and be killed. Stay with team mates as often as possible as well.

The last word of advice I could offer would be this: play Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for a while. I know you most likely won't want to go out and buy another Battlefield game when you're not happy with the one you have now, but BFBC2 is a lot slower-paced while still being a Battlefield game at the heart. Having played it before has helped me TONS with Battlefield 3. Also, the sound quality in Bad Company is incredible.

Good luck.

[Atlas-]

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Yea I can see the enjoyment in this game. I have to say up until I got so annoyed I yanked the control when it was still attached to the T.V which sent it flying across the room and snapped my final straw I was having a lot of fun. The vehicles add so much fun, I remember on the map on rush where you charge up a hill ( I think it's the highway one) I was in a tank, I boosted up ran over someone shot another guy got out and shot two people in the back until I was myself shot in the back.

I guess it is just some games where I end up dying every time I leave my deployment zone but most of the are really fun whether I get kills or not. I have to say though I still can't pilot for ☺☺☺☺, the one time I got in a jet I managed to do two strafing runs which didn't hit a thing before having to parachute out. I still enjoy parachuting though, it's fun to rain death from the sky.

[Invader]

Yea I can see the enjoyment in this game. I have to say up until I got so annoyed I yanked the control when it was still attached to the T.V which sent it flying across the room and snapped my final straw I was having a lot of fun. The vehicles add so much fun, I remember on the map on rush where you charge up a hill ( I think it's the highway one) I was in a tank, I boosted up ran over someone shot another guy got out and shot two people in the back until I was myself shot in the back.

I guess it is just some games where I end up dying every time I leave my deployment zone but most of the are really fun whether I get kills or not. I have to say though I still can't pilot for ☺☺☺☺, the one time I got in a jet I managed to do two strafing runs which didn't hit a thing before having to parachute out. I still enjoy parachuting though, it's fun to rain death from the sky.

I'd be lying if I said the game has never gotten on my nerves. I've slammed my controller into the ground in rage so powerfully that I'm amazed it still works properly. The game is just like that. When you're doing well it's awesome, but when you're losing it's terrible.

HAve you activated the Battlelog yet?

[Atlas-]

I'd be lying if I said the game has never gotten on my nerves. I've slammed my controller into the ground in rage so powerfully that I'm amazed it still works properly. The game is just like that. When you're doing well it's awesome, but when you're losing it's terrible.

Yea that's the problem with these games it's always one or the other, I find it impossible to enjoy while losing. I also hate the metro map, it remind's me of CoD too much as it's too confined.

Have you activated the Battlelog yet?

No what is it.

[Invader]

Yea that's the problem with these games it's always one or the other, I find it impossible to enjoy while losing. I also hate the metro map, it remind's me of CoD too much as it's too confined.

I think that was intentional. No real Battlefield player seems to like it, and for good reason. That was the map in the beta, and I am sure they added it just to try and draw in the CoD players. While I'm glad they're trying to take out CoD, I can't help but wonder... do we really want the CoD community to be playing Battlefield?

It's also probably worth noting that they're adding guns from CoD to the game in the DLC. Why else would they include the FAMAS, L96, and L85A2 (basically the Enfield from BO)? While they're adding CoD guns, I wish they'd throw in an Uzi...

No what is it.

It's a lot like the CoD Elite service that they're charging everyone monthly for, except it's free (and you don't get free DLC for being a member, but that's understandable). Here's a link to the site: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/

[Atlas-]

I think that was intentional. No real Battlefield player seems to like it, and for good reason. That was the map in the beta, and I am sure they added it just to try and draw in the CoD players. While I'm glad they're trying to take out CoD, I can't help but wonder... do we really want the CoD community to be playing Battlefield?

Whoever thought it would be good to have a map where the only cover is the gates should be put in a similar situation with real guns and see how easy it is to take cover. I agree that I don't want any CoD players, however there doesn't seem to be any especially powerful combinations, those lights are really annoying though.

It's also probably worth noting that they're adding guns from CoD to the game in the DLC. Why else would they include the FAMAS, L96, and L85A2 (basically the Enfield from BO)? While they're adding CoD guns, I wish they'd throw in an Uzi...

I have to say the only difference I see in the guns is that some are as accurate as a blind owl and others aren't. That's why I use an RPG.

It's a lot like the CoD Elite service that they're charging everyone monthly for, except it's free (and you don't get free DLC for being a member, but that's understandable). Here's a link to the site: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/

I signed up http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...ilentDeath345/ Although I don't know anyone else who has it at the moment.

[Invader]

I've got a Battlelog account. I sent you a friend request.

[Atlas-]

I didn't get it, what's you're account name.

[Invader]

I didn't get it, what's you're account name.

My Origin account is "Invader115", and my Gamertag is "SpleenMaster115".

[Atlas-]

My Origin account is "Invader115", and my Gamertag is "SpleenMaster115".

Right got it.

I'm trying to get the trophies but I can't get that one with the snipers, me and this guy got it perfectly every time up until the first part with the squad then one of us always missed the head.

[Invader]

Right got it.

I'm trying to get the trophies but I can't get that one with the snipers, me and this guy got it perfectly every time up until the first part with the squad then one of us always missed the head.

I'm not familiar with that one, but I haven't looked at the Achievements/Trophies much. It's a co-op one?

[Atlas-]

I'm not familiar with that one, but I haven't looked at the Achievements/Trophies much. It's a co-op one?

It's called something like bullseye and you have to kill all the enemies with you're snipers without alerting anyothers.
Here it is http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/batt...-Bullseye.html. It's really hard if one of you doesn't land the headshot at the same timeas the other guy you've blown it.

[Invader]

It's called something like bullseye and you have to kill all the enemies with you're snipers without alerting anyothers.
Here it is http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/batt...-Bullseye.html. It's really hard if one of you doesn't land the headshot at the same timeas the other guy you've blown it.

Oh. Yeah, that can't be easy.

[Keene]

Battlefield 3 is all time favorite game because this has game extreme war and it is my routine to play this game and i suggest this to my friends and also to my forum friends.This game has a lot of war.

Strategy Games

[BloodnGlory]

Battlefield made me stop buying COD all together. The warfare has such a feeling that is so realistic. The vehicles and the fact that when well organized clans use them it no longer feels like a game. Thats why I love it.

[Invader]

Battlefield made me stop buying COD all together. The warfare has such a feeling that is so realistic. The vehicles and the fact that when well organized clans use them it no longer feels like a game. Thats why I love it.

It really is an exciting game to play with friends. Usually we're just a squad of three, but it's still great fun.

[faraz]

yeah battlefield is better game then COD.its more realistic in graphic plus the story and missions are interesting.

[Invader]

Let's revive this thread to talk a bit about the direction that Battlefield 3 is heading.

I am not a CoD fan. While I don't absolutely abhor Call of Duty's gameplay like some Battlefield players do, CoD's multiplayer has never been enough of a draw (alone) to make me buy a CoD game. In fact, the sole reason I have ever purchased any CoD map pack is to play the included Zombies map (sadly, a game mode that is beginning to suffer from the monotony that plagues the rest of the series).

With Battlefield 3, EA (and by extention DICE) set out to kill CoD, by releasing a core Battlefield game on consoles for the first time and trying to win over the CoD playerbase by showing off their game's superiority over the competition (as well as adding Team Deathmatch for the first time). They... didn't win. I wouldn't call it a failure, as they achieved the highest ever sales for an EA game with BF3, but their damage to Call of Duty was trivial.

From the start, BF3 was lacking the sort of quality that was demanded from the older, more grizzled Battlefield veterans, and wasn't exactly perfect in the eyes of someone who was a bit late to the party, like me (started seriously playing in Bad Company 1, but had messed about a bit in BF2), as there were far too many glitches and exploits available (Exhibit one: the MAV elevator, which would allow snipers and anti-armor to reach places that are nearly impossible to counterattack). The game didn't really feel like Battlefield, with overpowered grenade launchers and shotguns being major issues, as well as the predictable damage done to the community by what CoD gamers they were able to lure in.

Unfortunately, EA seems to be at a fork in the road here.



Road 1: say, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". It would seem that they're testing this route out a bit, with their latest expansion pack, "Close Quarters". It features tiny, all-infantry maps that are strangely reminiscent of my days messing around in Modern Warfare 2. While they are adding "HD Destruction" to these maps, and the gameplay doesn't appear to be overly CoD-like, I don't like it. If just by adding tiny infantry-only maps, you don't think they're coming too close to CoD, then let's take a look at the new weapons they're adding (as seen in this video):

-ACW-R (Carbine of the ACR, of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 fame)
-SPAS-12 (Has appeared in both Battlefield and CoD games. Not too worried, but still...)
-MTAR-21 (It was either this exact gun or a similar model that was popular in MW2)
-L85 LSW (The L86 LSW, which is very similar, was featured in MW2 and MW3)
-Steyr AUG (You probably know it from Black Ops)
-SCAR-L (Has been in MW 2&3, but could just be to go with the SCAR-H, which is already in the game)
-L86A1 (A.K.A. the Enfield, from Black Ops. Note that the L86A2 appeared in the last BF3 expansion)

There were just a couple that haven't been in CoD before. There are also quite a few guns that were in the previous expansion and the vanilla game that were a bit too deeply tied with CoD (*cough* FAMAS in Back to Karkand *cough*).



Road 2: Appeal to your already-loyal Battlefield audience. The expansion announced to be released after Close Quarters is called "Armored Kill", and will feature the "largest map in Battlefield history". This may sound like they're getting back to their Battlefield roots, but it's not quite that way. Again, they just seem to be getting a feel for this route. The third map pack to be released (end of the year) is named "Endgame", and they are giving NO details on it. I feel that they are waiting to see what people think of these to add-ons before they get to work on that one. The playerbase has been very clear on how they feel about Close Quarters, but you don't know how it will go post-release.

The future of Battlefield is uncertain, and it is up to the community to decide what lies in this great series.

Thoughts? Opinions?

[The-Canadian]

I don't care the size of the map, or what is on it, as long as it is fun to play on and is designed well. Huge, or small, they are all good.

As for guns, they're just guns. Who cares if they might have similar one in other games, the more guns the better. I couldn't care less if there are guns from more than one game. There shouldn't be restrictions on what weapons a game can have just because another game had weapons like them already.

I see no problem with anything being done.

[Invader]

I don't care the size of the map, or what is on it, as long as it is fun to play on and is designed well. Huge, or small, they are all good.

As for guns, they're just guns. Who cares if they might have similar one in other games, the more guns the better. I couldn't care less if there are guns from more than one game. There shouldn't be restrictions on what weapons a game can have just because another game had weapons like them already.

I see no problem with anything being done.

I'll play the maps and enjoy them, but I don't like how similar the game is getting to other games that I've intentionally avoided. None of the guns are particularly bad (I am actually fond of most of them) but it just seems like they're trying to make the game feel more familiar for the CoD audience, who have already had a negative affect on the community- or maybe I just need to upgrade my computer and buy the game on PC, because the console community might always be... how it is.

[wOrLd1]

I have been playing Battlefield since the 1942 days. I have to say battlefield is my favorite game of all time. I have all the games except 2 versions that I didn't buy. I like BF3 , but the Close Quarters is not my favorite thing but it isn't horrible either. I think that the Armor expansion will be my favorite , this is the one I am looking forward to. I don't get into that BF vs CoD beef but I will fuss all day long about PC being better than a console .

[Invader]

I honestly felt like the Xbox version was more solid than the PC one, if only because of its in-game server browser.

[Muskel]

Anyone purchase Premium? I'm having trouble dropping $50 for dlc's that haven't released yet. Anyone know how much it would cost just for close quarters dlc?

Yup, can't fly the heli at all. Anyone know how to fly good, and feel like carrying me through the co-op mission? I wouldn' mind grinding out all the co-op guns. PC or Xbox. Please let me know, thanks.