Civ V improved DRAMATICALLY in the last four months.
I stopped playing Civ V four months ago and was totally burned out by it after 227 hours of play time. I even uninstalled it from my PC then.
I just started playing it yesterday and noticed some huge improvements a few of which follow:
1. One can uncheck Auto Unit Cycle and then stay focussed on a single location without the AI moving one's cursor all over the map.
2. There is now a replay feature when the game ends.
3. The AI gibberish is GONE! When the AI communicates now, it gets straight to the point.
4. I'm playing at just Chieftain Level and am having a great time. Four months ago I was playing at the highest level and always won. The AI seemed to make ridiculous moves then. Today it's moves are very logical.
5. The general flow of play seems to have changed dramatically and its like playing a brand new game now.
I agree, the game is slowly shaping up
I also feel there are a lot more good feasable strategies to play than before. The different approaches are more balanced.
3. awwwwwwwwwwwww, i wanted to see the ai talk more.. now its just like "welcome" "ok bye".... grrr oh well..
So you were playing on Deity and always won and now you play Chieftain and the AI can compete with you? There is something wrong with that statement unless you exaggerate with the "highest level" above.
I could not play the full game prior to 4 months ago due to the incessant gibberish of the AI and the totally illogical behavior. Thus, I only played then one AI, no City States, no Barbarians and a start in the Modern Era on the Duel Map. My only victory conditions than were Time and Domination. I played Deity and the level right below it and won most of the time. The AI at that time was really bad in strategy and tactics.
Originally Posted by civdiss
Now with the massive improvements I started at Chieftain level with a Large Map, 10 AI players and 20 City States using all five Victory Conditions: Time, Science, Domination, Cultural and Diplomatic. The AI is very logical and there is no AI gibberish. Even at this low level the AI plays much better than it used to play at the Deity Level. I'll gradually increase the level from Chieftain until I am unable to win. Then I'll reduce back to the next lower lever to have an enjoyable game.
I find the game very pleasant to play now and I don't really play just for a victory. Its the animations and the game flow which are important for me. If I want a mental contest, I play internet chess. I've noticed on Steam that about 17,500 folks play Civilization V most of the time versus only about 5,500 for Shogun 2. I won't play the latter game anymore at all since I never had a chance to win a game there even at the lowest level. Those numbers prove that the vast majority of players of both games prefer Civ V way over the other one at this moment in time.
If I tire of plain vanilla Civ V, I notice there are a few scenarios available now which can change the game play if required.
As many of us pointed out back when you were playing before, Duel/Modern/NoCS is an entirely different game than the normal game. The majority of the tactical changes you're seeing are due to the change in map size and timeline.
Originally Posted by slowtarget
Maru, you are now, and ONLY now, playing Civ5
.. and how do i download this new CIV ?
There is nothing to download. The two, quite different games start as follows:
Originally Posted by ArchaicWarrior
1. Human = America (216 points)
AI = Arabia (216 points)
No City States nor Barbarians
Duel Map Size and Continents Map Type with Resources as Strategic Balance
Prince Difficulty, Standard Pace (500 Turns), Modern Era
Victory Conditions: Time or Domination
Turn 325 - 1905 AD
Declare war on first contact with AI and never negotiate.
2. Human = Random
AI = 10
20 City States
Large Map Size and Continents Map Type with Resources as Strategic Balance
Chieftain Difficulty, Standard Pace (500 Turns), Ancient Era
Victory Conditions: Time, Science, Domination, Cultural or Diplomatic
Turn 0 - 4,000 BC
One can set them up using the Advanced Options. I played game one for 227 hours and eventually burned out and uninstalled Civ V.
So far I am 15 hours into game two. If I burn out in 6 months, I can always go back to game one. However, game two is fascinating for me now and I'm far away from burning out. Game One is a tactical game like chess. Game Two is an experience game of fictional history.
Civ V is the only video game I play. I tried Shogun 2 but could not beat it even on the lowest level. After 100 hours of losing almost all the games, I uninstalled it. I also play Ferion which is a web based game with few graphics and internet chess for direct mental contests with other humans. I do not play Civ V multiplayer since it has no animations which are the main reason for me to play it.