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    ALERT: New Citizen Spywatch Message Receieved

    Attention All Citizens. I have been sent this document from the mysterious association known as CITIZEN SPYWATCH. I dont know how to start decoding it...but there must be some secret message. Any help?
    http://s1135.photobucket.com/albums/...SpywatchA1.jpg


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    I received the same transmission.
    Any help to decode by other Citizens would be appreciated.

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    I've got it, too. Let's see what you've got to say, friend.

    EDIT - Looks like the weasel set it to automatically send out a reply if you try to write a message to him/her/them.

    Off on a lark. Sorry, you'll have to figure this one out all on your own.

    Cheers,

    -CITIZEN SPYWATCH-

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    I really need help decoding this - hope someone posts results soon.

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    Hmm this seems like a real brain bruiser. The picture on the note is 17th century philosopher John Locke, I don't know of any code associated with him but I'm no expert. I don't know much about these Spywatch fellows so that's all I can tell you. Hope it helped.

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    Has this Spywatch fellow given us his name or any moniker yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GalFriday View Post
    Has this Spywatch fellow given us his name or any moniker yet?
    No,the email's author is Citizen Spywatch,possibly his/her name will be in this message when it's deciphered

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    Don't hold your breath - when we get a real name they won't be able to play their games with Skywatch anymore. One would probably hunt them down right away (please, you know he's already trying to get Spywatch's head on a platter).

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    Okay, so we have a "Key" and a "Locke" Makes since to start with the "Key". I have played with the letters in the Star Spagled Banner, but I can't get it to work, and I think that would be too easy anyway. If anyone knows anything about music (I don't) perhaps we could try using the music to decode and develop the "Key" to begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeGirl View Post
    Okay, so we have a "Key" and a "Locke" Makes since to start with the "Key". I have played with the letters in the Star Spagled Banner, but I can't get it to work, and I think that would be too easy anyway. If anyone knows anything about music (I don't) perhaps we could try using the music to decode and develop the "Key" to begin.
    I have tried many things but nothing seems to be working. I wonder if maybe we are waiting for another message or something. Without a clue or an idea where to start this is going to be hard to break. One thing I thought of was that SpyWaych B was the "key" and SpywatchA was the message but I cant see anything other than "kxq," in spywatchb that might say key when deciphered.

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    I tried using the spywatch b text as the key but it does not work ,not with usual cipher methods anyway.

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    Lovely, darlings, but you're only halfway there. The secret is that the key to the Key is key. Unlock the Key, and you'll unlock the Locke. Happy hunting!

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    I just got this

    Well, the Key isn't be much bloody use to the Locke, unless you know the key's the Key. Show your true colors -- I trust you know the lines by heart. Thus I revenge myself upon you silly ponces!

    Just so you know this was emailed to me from citizen spywatch
    Last edited by Slightlychilled; 10-17-2011 at 05:26 PM.

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    Is there a text based version that we could post on here? Or have you all been typing it in by hand to try and break it?

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    The text is in the Citizen 13 returns thread...

    Qgnetagszulmsoq,whvoijt.Qsu'mpd
    zctkmdl"kxq,"vpmsh'wjmq?Fbtqear
    n'mwvchqimtkzlwobamuqkoalhtppzq
    sv'msfrmgubwigtuhssqzfhmmuifbaz
    b.Jkyahthewztshvmiypm,gsdxdlvrq
    dukmzavaigvoijnirxoshoqehvlmgyp
    zheiwerd.ChkoeggcpiedfaFoeiqigZ
    smrufjiujhxotklvtbfzhzfjczsybus
    cuxk.Pvvgpgshhrtash,zxy'topMsa
    gbltgcmiyzwnahorvlaagvuywggfhxe
    lhsdvfsibik.Ginwsw,TbamkeaQcsx.
    Last edited by JimmyWild; 10-17-2011 at 05:47 PM. Reason: There was a missing ? in there, added it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyWild View Post
    The text is in the Citizen 13 returns thread...

    Qgnetagszulmsoq,whvoijt.Qsu'mpd
    zctkmdl"kxq,"vpmsh'wjmqFbtqear
    n'mwvchqimtkzlwobamuqkoalhtppzq
    sv'msfrmgubwigtuhssqzfhmmuifbaz
    b.Jkyahthewztshvmiypm,gsdxdlvrq
    dukmzavaigvoijnirxoshoqehvlmgyp
    zheiwerd.ChkoeggcpiedfaFoeiqigZ
    smrufjiujhxotklvtbfzhzfjczsybus
    cuxk.Pvvgpgshhrtash,zxy'topMsa
    gbltgcmiyzwnahorvlaagvuywggfhxe
    lhsdvfsibik.Ginwsw,TbamkeaQcsx.
    I have tried different musical "keys" to unlock that but havent been able to so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spywatch View Post
    Lovely, darlings, but you're only halfway there. The secret is that the key to the Key is key. Unlock the Key, and you'll unlock the Locke. Happy hunting!
    Its very bold of you to come here. What are you hoping to accomplish?

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    I still think the answer is in the music (keys within Keys) of the Star Spangled Banner. And the first stanza has question marks in the test which is unusual for a song, but sort of fits. I just can't seem to get them to line up, but I will keep trying. I know nothing about music so I am at a disadvantage with this though.

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    The only thing that causes me to doubt the music incorporation is that the key of the song can change, there is no definite key and you could play it in any you like, correct me if i am wrong. Now it is possible that we could use the notes of the song, or keys on a piano, but i find that unlikely also. Citizen SPYwatch stated specifically that "the key to the Key is key." What definitions could key take that we haven't thought of yet?

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    Maybe we need to find (or make) a key - a sheet with out squares to spell out something. Wasn't such a "key" used earlier? Or was such a "key" given to anyone at one the get-togethers? This might make sense because the text to runs together and in box form.

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    I've tried the musical key used for Star Spangled Banner. Most of the time it's in b- flat major, but that doesn't seem to apply. I've tried it as a vigenere cipher, which requires a "key" to solve the puzzle, but b-flat doesn't work. I'm not entirely sure that the key here is the musical key - even though it's the most obvious choice.

    Then again, maybe it isn't a vigenere cipher. Do any other ciphers require "keys" to solve them? (stupid question I suppose, but I'm not exactly a great cryptographer)

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    Maybe its not the actual key that the song is sung, maybe it has to do with John Stafford Smith that actually wrote the music. Maybe he is the 'key' here.

    So my attempts have been along the lines of letter shifts, letter substitutions, and transposition. But i keep running into the same wall. IF i'm on the right track then i'm missing some clue as to where to start each way.

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    well, the Key isn't be much bloody use to the Locke, unless you know the key's the Key.Show your true colors -- I trust you know the lines by heart.Thus I revenge myself upon you silly ponces!

    Guys and girls This is what Spywatch sent me. in reply to a email I sent to him/her

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    They key is the first verse of Star Spangled. It's a Vigenere Cipher. When translated the Key message comes to this:

    "Congratulations, darling. You've found the "key," haven't you But it won't do you a blessed bit of good until you've found the other bit you turn it in. Perhaps a friend has it, somewhere out there in the great web of this big wide world. Perhaps a fellow Citizen Soldier has pegged it to the bulletin board. Worth a look then, isn't it. Maintain virulence and standby for further disorder. Kisses, CitizenNone."

    I'm working on decoding the Locke document, but so far I only have the following:

    "Tired of being a dutiful Citizen? Wondering what dear old One is up to"

    There's a lot more to figure out. If anyone wants to help out that would be great.

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    Good work Citizen Codex! Whats the first verse? It doesn't seem to work for me when I try it.

    Here's the other message for people to work from SpyWatchA:
    VwekuoyvpigooqmwiwftPorwtzr?Bch
    qhkprqafhtyinkmzxPhxqlqdghldbwv
    iw?BciqgyvpanfjnsoqxubaPjwnzews
    jydrprumoiijoargcwyfsbamtpqv?Dh
    tfhjrkghvlsKxroofgdvjtegnbgness
    cgwpwoejokieuwtglkwwtbnwbpegsyt
    pbsiltwwptxzchdgsxbspr?Zoghv'xr
    slzxwvgvdvhkatsgmutxwumroqacoar
    yhhxpgpixciegjrtahzajyxacgcwice
    clgkqenqvtgnlo?Btb'kdildusndndw
    d-iprwauziegeammcbhgriqbr?
    Ojhxurabvgglkexzdrxlayixtfuyoyv
    vsx?Wvugsixjwytntxxzoyekwqqingp
    xlaxrhmmvjx1piwsbnvptslvwpsxjkt
    atokaczuktkszkid.Gpxzrrslsdqwea
    vzcehhsgvHfsieozllrbyw.A1'wtsvi
    bugkuconplfutolzfnmtpqvpuwer.Ej
    xnoaiafylpwwauikmsvhwloygblvarm
    ilgxioqxl?Mhbgbheppeeubhskljyjp
    oeymceyvpywogamyximf.Zebbibyydm
    qgsfgkwtnthmq.Ropgynxrrfzagavw1
    zxoqgyvqv'miexreoyp.Fca'zgumszu
    kbfhkwieyizkqhbvxmwxrexomxhlbmw
    iel.Isyqntj1kbgahSjwnebyhimivuq
    hbfrzmroehzocfm.Hswsnbfhti.RhuT
    xtbtesglqx'fcpietldy.Dhiclanedm
    exsefkxsbpwphrufmzhkmyixprkkmyf
    vdxn.OjgxxzlKauqfavQsjs.

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    O! say can you see by the dawn’s early light,
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
    O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
    O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    O! say can you see by the dawn’s early light,
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
    O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
    O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
    I see I was using one with Oh! instead of O!. Also the message I posted does have so errors so the rest of the message is not displaying correctly. I'm working on fixing the errors.

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    Ah, thank you. I was wondering why I could only get the first few words or so. I'm having some difficulty with it.

    First few question marks are as follows:

    TiredofbeingadutifulCitizen?Won
    deringwhatdearoldOneisupto,anyh
    ow?AreyousosureheandhisEliteare
    playingtherightsideofthegame?

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    Sorry about the trouble with my transcript. My conversion tool made the "," into l's and some l's into 1's

    Tired of being a dutiful Citizen?Wondering what dear old One is up to,anyhow?Are you so sure he and his Elite are playing the right side of the game? When he accuses Spywatch of casting about disinformation, does that make him more the pot or the kettle? Haven't all his paranormal claims been called
    hoaxes by every reasonable authority,time and again?Don't you know a flim-flam scheme when you see one? Is he against the government or all for it? You lovelies taped all his confetti together, but you never asked what party it came from. There could be every reason One was shunned.He's convinced you the government is lying. But what if the lies are true, and the truth are lies?You can tell what stinks when you follow the flies. Get on the side of the angels. Maybe we know something you don't after all.Don't put your trust in names that hide behind numbers. Keep tabs on the Elite and question all your orders. More to come.Don't call us,we'll call you.Maintain virulence and stand by for further disorder.Kisses, CitizenNone.
    Last edited by Ksarith; 10-18-2011 at 11:00 AM. Reason: spacing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksarith View Post
    Sorry about the trouble with my transcript. My conversion tool made the "," into l's and some l's into 1's

    Tired of being a dutiful Citizen? Wondering what dear old One is up to, anyhow? Are you so sure he and his Elite are playing the right side of the game? When he accuses Spywatch of casting about disinformation, does that make him more the pot or the kettle? Haven't all his paranormal claims been called hoaxes by every reasonable authority, time and again? Don't you know a flim-flam scheme when you see one?

    Is he against the government or all for it? You lovelies taped all his confetti together, but you never asked what party it came from. There could be every reason One was shunned. He's convinced you the government is lying. But what if the lies are true, and the truth are lies? You can tell what stinks when you follow the flies. Get on the side of the angels. Maybe we know something you don't after all. Don't put your trust in names that hide behind numbers. Keep tabs on the Elite and question all your orders. More to come. Don't call us, we'll call you. Maintain virulence and standby for further disorder. Kisses, Citizen None.
    Thanks for posting that, Citizen Ksarith. This is getting awfuly ominous... I'm not sure I'm too comfortable with what Spywatch is saying. He may be an antagonistic jerk, but he's making a fair bit of sense with these acusations

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    I am afraid I am behind yet again. I have the original document with Locke on it, but how we reached the decision to find a Key eludes me.I would appreciate a recap.

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    The key to SpywatchA was the deciphered SpywatchB text that Citizen Codex broke. Citizen Spywatch posted a clue about the key to SpywatchB further up the page saying "the key to the Key is key" and Citizen Codex figured out it was the first verse of the Star Spangled Banner.

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    Ugh, well i'm glad someone got it, but now i'm annoyed at how long i spent looking in the wrong direction lol. Great job Codex! Seems fitting, with your name, that you figured it out.

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    Thanks, Codex. I'll be able to sleep tonight with out thinking of keys and locks. Now I'll will have to give some thought to the message though.

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    I missed out on both receiving the mails and the resolution. Curse my inattentiveness.

    So, to recap:

    Citizen Spywatch give us no information but queries about Citizen One and asks for us to not trust Citizen Skywatch who is attempting to give us information (true or false, we must have faith and decide on our own) and asks for our help?

    Counter-intelligence has been afoot for some time, but the question remains...who's side is the "right" side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksarith View Post
    The key to SpywatchA was the deciphered SpywatchB text that Citizen Codex broke. Citizen Spywatch posted a clue about the key to SpywatchB further up the page saying "the key to the Key is key" and Citizen Codex figured out it was the first verse of the Star Spangled Banner.
    It was Citizen SlightlyChilled's response from Spywatch that got my attention. "You know the words very well." Given that the national anthem is something we've all sung many times I thought it would be a good idea to try that.

    Everyone worked together with this one - great job sharing information, everyone!

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    I was a little on edge about this one good team work all

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    This is an unsettling find fellow Citizens! All along we've been led to believe that Citizen One is absolute, but Spywatch makes a very convincing arguement. While we don't know who any of these people are, the Elite ask us to follow them blindly and not question them or their motives. I, for one, eagerly await the next transmission from either camp in this matter. Hopefully a little more light can be shed on this situation before our great nation is further attacked.

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    The phrase "get on the side of the angels" worries me a little bit. To be at the side of an angel, at least from my upbringing, often means to be dead. Then again, it can often mean to be on the righteous side.

    I'm going to have to think on this some more. Given all that I've seen from Skywatch that has made me question my loyalty (the Vesiliyev lookalike at Operation PAX being the biggest one) some of what Spywatch says has me questioning them. Still, Sywatch gives no actual evidence against CitizenOne and instead just says "isn't it funny that CitizenOne is being secretive." Asking us to doubt CitizenOne while pointing out the exact same attributes that they share and make them both less than trustworthy doesn't really sway my loyalty any further than it already has been. I'm still skeptical, but I'm skeptical across the board. Until either One or None manage to convince me that they are the right side, I'll continue working towards the goals we've got clearly lain out in front of us. Let's keep watching the skies.

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    My take on this is that so far we have learned things about Citizen One through the evidence left behind by Citizen 13. From the evidence it seems to me that Citizen One is the former deputy director of the IDD and from what spywatch says that seems to support it. From the things we've seen so far I can't call Citizen One's paranormal activity hoaxes but a real and tangible threat(See Operation PAX). Do not be taken in by SpyWatch! All they have given us so far is a cute little speech and nothing more! Without hard evidence there is no reason to believe a thing Citizen None says.

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