if you use rez let me know why and if not let me know why?
if you use rez let me know why and if not let me know why?
I don't, I am skilled enough not to need it, I don't suicide, and it is not reliable as it only works like 30% of the time for me.
To top it off, unless my opponents are brand new to the game, everyone expects it and is ready to finish you off.
Best just to get good enough to kill first and not get killed, you wouldn't need it that way!
same if your skilled enough u know how to move around opponents and maps
Last edited by goride; 06-09-2011 at 11:31 PM.
Everyone.
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I Only used it on my big daddy loadout... Its just great to distract the daddy whilst your team mates take him down... Other than that I hate it.
I used to be a big fan of rez but recently have dropped it from my loadouts. I replace it with either fast feet or leg up or something useful.
Jerks, newbs, suiciders team players (only tolerable reason) in your pants has left the game
I dont because I rebirthed on one account and am only level 9 on the other when I unlock it I probably will as it saves me the annoynce of other res users surviving because I dont have it it's also useful against big daddies as thier less likley to wait around.
Nubs aka "elites."
thatawkwardmomentwhenerryonedeniesit.
Last edited by Siren; 06-10-2011 at 07:48 PM.
I hate that guy, he sent me hate mail when I froze his body before he could leave the game.Originally Posted by Dmac5985
WAY too many players use rez. I myself have only used rez on a few occasions and I ditched it pretty quick. It never paid off enough for me to justify a tonic slot for it. Unless you're playing brand-new players, it doesn't pay off that much.
Personally, I'd rather use a tonic slot on death trap than rez. Rez leaves a slim chance you'll get back up (unless a teammate saves you), but death trap can pay off nicely. I can't even count the number of BD takedowns that death trap has got for me, or the number of times I took out 3 or 4 enemies with one DT blast. Lately I've been switching out DT here and there, but I always have it handy.
No matter what the poll results show here, I will say a MAJORITY of level 50 players use it for CW on the PSN. I see it all the time amongst those players.
True. It seemed the same on xbox while I was there. It bothers me more when players use it in SOTF because there will be no teammates to rescue you.
That's when it doesn't bother me. In SotF I will likely get to clean up my kill if you try to res. In a team game, I have to fight off one or two other players while waiting for the res to begin, often costing me a kill.
Doctors can HS a person out of rez with the CB/EG, but Doctors don't need it to be good.
Zigo + Buck Helmet + Grenade Laucher+ Spammer + Suicide + Rez = Scrandum
Truse me I'm a Doctor.
Me. I still use res on 2 of my loadouts. If I'm playing survival it gets switched for fast feet.
I stopped using rez because it doesn't pay off often enough. But the death trap BD takedowns are the best. The other day I took out 4 opponents with a DT in a small room in HftP. Sweet revenge..
Whoever it was that told you the "talking in third person" schtick was cool was wrong. Trust me, I'm not a Doctor, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Simple answer, Noobs.
He said doctors, I don't think he was talking in the third as the statement was plural, and he hasn't done it before although if he starts to I will be annoyed quickly!
Trust me, I'm a mac!
I don't get it then.
Ooohhh yeah... LOL, the two of us have had some pretty epic DT spreesI stopped using rez because it doesn't pay off often enough. But the death trap BD takedowns are the best. The other day I took out 4 opponents with a DT in a small room in HftP. Sweet revenge..
Gotta love it when your enemies are sooo greedy for that damage photo that 3 or 4 of them fall to your DT... Even though it's not a common scenario, it's more satisfying to me than thinking "ok, I'm getting back up- ...no I'm not..." :/
Okay, So, Now Rez is considered noob? Sweet almighty Jesus of the third Land.
Let me pose a question,
What's more noob? the person in a 5 person team All (See; Lies about Not using it) using EB? or the 5 person team All using GL and Rez?
Students, you may now write down the answer, you have 30 minutes.
I just don't understand, I've had a encounter with Everyone here using Rez every single time. Mind you, the odd time I'd see DT or the even more feared.. Slugger.
Oh well, maybe I'm just finding evil twins? I believe I've seen "Venub" anyway.
Yes it is! D:<
I never use rez.
Yes, I use it. Yes, it's hypocritical of my sometimes. Yes, I enjoy surviving Rez's. Wat, let's fight about it, hurr. I don't usually abuse it... ahem, obviously never suiciding ([srs=9001] Unless it's out of retribution to spammers that take it a step further by bothering me [/srs]), and funny thing is, I get lucky a lot during matches, sometimes in Rez'ing, which I won't deny finding amusement in.
I'll address this I guess, though I didn't offer an opinion of it, but simply stated it is used a lot.
My basic problem with res is not in the player that uses it, but in the design decision to put it in the game. I think it was a poor one. I basically see two basic effects of res. 1) Most experienced players can deal with it, but for newer, lower level players, they finally manage a well earned kill against a level 40+, only to have it taken away by res. 2) It allows, even promotes, suiciding. I see absolutely NO positive to either of those things.
Now I will say, since this is what the thread seems to have become about, my opinion of a player that uses res will automatically be lower than that of a player that doesn't. In other words, my natural assumption when I run in to a 50 using res is that his skill level is lower and s/he needs res as a crutch to make up for their higher death count as opposed to a 50 that doesn't "need it." I'll also be predisposed to think the person is likely going to suicide on me if I get a kill.
These are all strictly my opinions. I don't expect anyone else to support them. I will say though that I doubt I am alone in my assumption about a player when spotting a res'er the first time. I believe there are likely a lot of players that think the same way. It's just a natural "first impression" kind of thing we all do subconsciously when "meeting" someone for the first time.
I mainly used res to avoid my idiocy in getting myself killed through mines and geyser traps and things like neutral CoV blowing up on me, if it came in useful at other times so be it.
The idea of anyone taking into account what others think about loadouts, tonics, plasmids etc is ridiculous. I'm not trying to insult anyone here but on this forum I have seen almost every time of combination critized as cheap, dirt, noobish, it has the effect of inflaition ie that if you find that every tactic is considered dirty you no longer care as you've got to use one of them. People need to stop whining about every loadout they see and learn to live with it, don't like plasmids/tonics? dont play bioshock.
Yet again this isn't addresed to anyone in particular but rather the kind of mentality around the forum at the moment.
I have seen this used effectively in this way. SotF, dancing toe to toe, step close to that hacked vending machine, kill the opponent, and res. Thing I don't get with it though is that it gives the hacker the kill, not the player. But at least you live to fight another day I guess.
Not me, man...
mkay well I certainly don't need any sort of "crutch" to have a decent k/d. I use it for a few different reasons. Not because I'm a jerk, or a newb, or a suicider.... Really its not that hard to clean up a little rez c'mon wow. In other words, my natural assumption of someone who isn't able to keep their rez kill, is that his skill level is lower than someone who can. Geez...
sml
Whoever it was that told you "making pointless threads" was cool was wrong. Don't start a battle that you can't finish. BTW doctors is not third person, but thanks for the new idea!
Trust me Dr Steinman 1 is a Doctor!
You should pay closer attention and maybe stop calling people liars. I don't use rez anymore. I used to, as many people have said they did.
Why the pot stirring?
I don't think you know what the word "thread" means. As for pointless "posts," pot meet kettle. I've yet to see you post anything other than pointless drivel.
Oh wait, that's right, you've already declared yourself the "victor" in the "battle."
p.s. Sorry mods, don't need the inevitable warning. I'll stop after this one.
Of course my initial impression of a res'er isn't true of every player. Nor did I say it was. I said that in the lack of other evidence to the contrary (i.e. encountering a player for the first time), I will assume a player that doesn't need res to carry a battle is better than one that does. As I pointed out, this isn't an "analysis" of the player. It's a subconscious first impression based on my personal feelings as to the uses of res based on what I've experienced. Unfortunately I think it's human nature to remember the bad more than the good. therefore, I associate res with the suiciders I have constantly run in to and the team "nut huggers" that constantly survive dying due to their bailing out by their teammates. So it wasn't my intention to insult everyone that uses res. I was simply pointing out that there are likely many like me who, in absence of any other knowledge about a player, will think less of a res'er than a non-res'er.mkay well I certainly don't need any sort of "crutch" to have a decent k/d. I use it for a few different reasons. Not because I'm a jerk, or a newb, or a suicider
I actually couldn't agree with this more. It really is not difficult to clean up rez. If you are getting suicided on all the time or cannot clean up your kill then it's your own fault. The players didn't put rez in the game, therefore they have every right to do it.mkay well I certainly don't need any sort of "crutch" to have a decent k/d. I use it for a few different reasons. Not because I'm a jerk, or a newb, or a suicider
So what you are saying is that anyone who uses what is available once you max out your level and work for is classified as lower off your initial impression? I mean you earlier complained that it is unfair to use against lower levels. Well at some point and time that high level who is using rez had it used against them when they were a low level. I really believe that rez was a bad addition to the game, but at the same time it adds more of a challenge to the experienced players. I'm sorry that you might lose a lot of your kills because of the inability to clean up rez or because they suicide on you, but that doesn't mean that the person is a lower tier player than someone that doesn't use rez.
If you read what you just quoted above, you'll see I said just that. Once again, I simply said it's my personal subconscious reaction to someone using it if I don't know them from previous games. I don't know how I can state this any more clearly than what I have.
That is what I was saying, it makes absolutely no sense as to why? Since they use something that is given to them it is wrong? I understand what you mean though, that it isn't something you control. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Not sure what about it doesn't make sense. I pointed out it is simply a conditioned response to seeing all the suiciding and team nut hugging. As I said earlier, you tend to remember the bad. And since PSN has come back up after the long downtime, I've seen it occurring a lot. So, right or wrong, I formed a bias against it that comes out when I'm introduced to another res player I haven't come across before. And to be honest, I'd say a good 50% of the time, my "first impression" turns out to be right on target. So I wouldn't expect my opinion to change any time soon. But if you feel differently, that's cool. My opinion doesn't affect your opinion at all, and vice-versa. That's the cool thing about life, we can all form our own opinions, we don't all have to agree on everything.
I have Res in all three of my loadouts and find it incredibly effective, that is only if you have a good supportive team or friend (usually in my case) with you. If youre one of these players that likes to wander team based games a lonesome then it's probably not going to do you too much good
In terms of others using it, I don't find it really too much hassle thanks to my darling friend Winterblast. However I understand the frustration the tonic must cause players who have suffered from their kills getting stolen, suiciders and such. I think it's abit silly the game doesnt give the kill to the person who made the initial killing bullet etc before the res, no matter who lands the bullet on the resurrecting player. Would solve alot of headaches. And a similar thing should apply to anyone that suicides. If you kill yourself then the last person that touched you should get a kill! Id like to think those two simple fixes would solve alot of our communitys heart aches but knowing us lot, we'd probably all still be bloody moaning hahaa!
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