Part 2 went over pretty darn well. Sure it didn't win game of the year. But it was well reviewed and sold well, I think.
Can't wait for Infinite. But I REALLY hope we get to see two things from 2K: a Bioshock game where we actually get to see, in depth, Rapture during it's peak before things fell apart. Late 40's or early 50's. And a Bioshock game that shows Rapture in modern day, or whenever it ended, got destroyed, etc.
Anyone else?
we can dream
I really due hope so, I would pay a good 80-100$ for that.
A prequel to the Rapture BioShock titles would be nice, but that wouldn't make well for a good game. There wasn't any real conflict in Rapture until 1958, and then there was the Civil War, making Rapture to what it appeared like in the original game. However, the Civil War, I believe, is played out through BioShock 2's multiplayer, making a prequel to the Rapture games unlikely.
Rapture in modern day, however, that would be a treat. It'd make people think that they were far more advanced fifty years ago, rather than today. The problem is, though - who would take the place of Sofia Lamb? She and Ryan were both great characters, but someone would have to be far more idealistic and a more violent tyrant if it came to a modern day Rapture.
I'd love to see a more sandbox-style game in Rapture. Not so much quest here, quest there, etc. but one where i can freely go around places in Rapture. Sorta like the first game, but with places from the 2nd and new places too. I'd love to see how places like Fort Frolic and Siren Alley could be travelled to and from.
We can all dream, but the move to Columbia makes me pretty much sure that BioShock 2 was the last time we would be in Rapture.
How do you know there wasn't any conflict? We already know that true Utopian societies have never existed, and may never exist. So why do you believe everything was perfect prior to the civil war??? I'm sure some pretty screwed up things happened when Plasmids were first being tested... I can imagine being a failed experiment subject who they are trying to squelch.Originally Posted by CamoBullo
I would guess that under the glitz and glamor that was Rapture in its prime, there was a seedy underbelly.. and being on the wrong side of that would make things look very different.
I hope not. The ending of Minerva's Den totally opened up for another game, one that would end the Rapture saga. As much as I love Rapture, seeing it get a dignified end in one final installment would be perfect.
Then again, assuming the ending of Minerva's Den was played out and Tenenbaum cured everyone would that really end Rapture? Unless all the cured splicers took off after, leaving Rapture an empty shell. Hmm... :/
We know that there was conflict before the civil war, what with Fontaine's smuggling operations and all the shoot outs, like that one that Fontaine was "killed" in. All that was before the civil war, but Im not sure how good of a game that sort of stuff would make. Following that line of thought though, you could play as Security Chief Sullivan and crack down on crime and the opposition to Ryan.
There were also the debates with Lamb, but that would be boring... Bioshock: Debate Team. :P
Another outing in Rapture is very possible, I mean, they can't just leave the city to crumble without something interesting happening, right?
I would like to play through the events leading to the civil war and Atlas rise to power but maybe thats just me.
It woud also be nice to fight through some of the key conflicts the bombing at the Kashmir the tide turning at neptunes bounty...
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When playing Minerva's Den, I felt like it was supposed to give us some closure to the Bioshock story in case another game wasn't green lighted. I was happy with the ending of MD, in fact I really enjoyed it. I'm not sure however, that we can expect another game in Rapture given Bioshock Infinite's announcement and the complete lack of information on a possible Bioshock 3. It would be unfortunate if they don't give us the proper ending Rapture deserves (an entire game), but I'm not optimistic about it. :/
i would like to see rapture again, but not before or during the civil war, mainly because i loved rapture as a distopia
I agree with most of you, no Rapture No Bioshock. Let finish this candy bar ( Rapture) before opening another one( Columbia)
Well the movie idea was shelved because of the budget estimate far exceeding the concept!
I think Rapture is best left alone now, it's story told and it's ballad sung so it should now remain a beautiful mystery at the bottom of the sea.
That said, I think that an animated CG movie should be made as they did with Resident Evil, it was very well made and could be that visual need for Rapture without having to play a stale storyline!
A Prequel, where you live as a citizen of rapture would be good. But, people will think that Bioshock will turn into a money machine.
This suggestion gets chucked around a lot, and I mean a lot, but what would you do in a prewar rapture where there are no Big Daddies, no Little Sisters, and no Splicers? A BioShock game before all that would be just plain boring if your ask me.
I would desperately love to have a scene that le's me walk through the "Welcome to Rapture" level from BioShock except as a new resident in the early opening days of Rapture when it was so happy and celebrated. Then, of course, chaos gameplay. It doesn't need to be a prequel, but I really hope they include a scene of Rapture at its best and brightest in one of the games, maybe as a nice stylish opening credits scene.
And on the time setting of the prequel idea, obviously it would most likely take place at the moments before and during the start of the war. I would assume the early moments would let you see some tension, maybe throughout the day on New Year's Eve, and then that night you see the outcome as the war begins and the game follows the war as it has begun. Or it would just potentially be sometime during that year before Jack arrived. Don't forget that the enemies to fight were around for a while before Jack dropped in.
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I hope we get another game set in Rapture, to me it doesn't matter what time period.
I think another game could be pulled off, and i would LOVE to see one. Im really excited for Bioshock Infinite but i really don't feel like Raptures story is over.....Minerva's Den would be an ok end to the series, but id prefer something with more of a bang that leaves us with no questions.
I've hoped for a sequel since the second Bioshock ended. However after the announcement of Bioshock Infinite we can pretty much rule out another Bioshock set in Rapture. In fact, I can say with the utmost certainty that there won't be any Bioshock 3.
After Bioshock's success in 07, in 08 rumors arose and they later confirmation that there would be a second and third Bioshock. Well we have the second, and I think that Bioshock Infinite would actually be considered to be the third.
I just finished Minerva's Den. It took me around 3-4 hours to complete on hard and it left me wanting more. I think a more likely approach would be more singeplayer DLC (I hope). I know I would be satisfied with some new DLC which dives into different stories just as MC has.
I would like to see another game set in Rapture. I felt that BioShock left us with a solid ending whereas BioShock 2 felt less complete. There was a symbiotic nature to BioShock that was missing from it sequel-- While BioShock felt like a completed film by the game's end BioShock 2 felt like one segment in the history of Rapture, one that could easily be built upon for a future game.
I would like to see one more installment which makes sense of a few of the inconsistencies within the narratives (mostly how the story lines from the two games jive with one another) and I would very much like the third game to have a solid "okay this story is done" ending much like the first game did.
I agree with you, Bioshock 2's many endings end in a sort of cliffhanger, they make you think, new questions arise. I could definitely see Rapture making a final stand.
I am content with the way Bioshock ended (the first one. I don't consider Bioshock 2 cannon or consider it a sequel). I liked the ending because it left me with plenty to think about while still giving me a sense of closure. All the main players are dead or have left, Jack escapes with/without the sisters, Rapture crumbles under the sea, the end. If everything were outlined for me and all my questions answered, what is there for me to think about? The more answers the less I am inclined to think about and remember a game.
In summation I would not want a third game and if it did come out, I would not buy it.
BioShock 2 left me wanting the solidity of the BioShock story to be repaired; BS2 added interesting narrative but it created as many plot holes as it did plot lines. The game play was solid, the duel wielding and plasmid combinations were fun, it was a good game but it left me wanting more. I have said this on the forum many times but it is pertinent: if the story were strong enough to not only stand on its own but mend a few narrative weak spots from BS2 then I would buy the game(BioShock 3... some sort of Rapture Title) in a heartbeat.
I would need to be assured though, through demos or interviews, that the narrative would shine through as it did in the original; otherwise it would be BS2 all over again: a fun trip down something vaguely familiar that just feels off.
Did anyone ever watch It's a Wonderful Life? That is what BS2 made me feel like; at the end you are satisfied for a moment revelling in how adorable Zuzu is.... and then you recall that the entire film is a depressing story about a family man contemplating suicide whom is only convinced that living is worth while through the antics of a lack luster quasi-angel which shows him that life would be marginally worse for the people around him if he had never lived, but does nothing to show what the future lives of his loved ones would be if he offed himself that night. (despite my synopsis this analogy really makes more sense if you have seen the film)
What I mean is, you have the warm fuzzies one moment and then your sensibility is smacked with all of the unanswered questions, the plot holes, the "wait a second if the timeline was changed thusly then the outcome would be irreconcilably different anyway" 's. BioShock 2 pulled at heart strings but upon reflection gave more questions than answers. I liked the game; I would play a third installment, I would just hope that the story was concrete.
I personally loved Bioshock 2, it was a good contender to the original and the multiplayer is way underrated, it has tons of potential.
As I've said, rather than making a new game they should further explore Rapture and it's citizens with DLC like in Minerva's Den.
Gotta agree with people that posted above. I remember getting home after getting 2 and essentially teary eyed after the opening movie of 2. It pulled on your emotions a lot.......not a bad thing necessarily. However as I'm sure we're all biased after playing the first game and not to state the obvious but it introduced us to so much.
2 was an amazing game however there was no "a-ha" moment like the "would you kindly?" it was a fun experience, I'll always associate it with SitS and Splicers Unite but I guess what I'm getting at is if there is a 3, the story needs to be amazing. It's like those movies that get amazing actors to cover a weak story line.....it's fun entertainment but no real substance.
Lastly, I hope there isn't a movie. I don't want some Uwe Boll director type ruining what in my opinion is the greatest videogame story ever.
Yes, I understand what you mean. I, myself, have seen It's a Wonderful Life dozens of times and think it's a spectacular movie, James Stewart is exceptional, the film's an all-time great, but I do agree with you, there are a lot of questions that go unexplored in the movie as well as Bioshock 2. Two different things enirely that share a few similar, important points. Perhaps we are meant to draw our own conclusions from these interesting pieces of work?BioShock 2 left me wanting the solidity of the BioShock story to be repaired; BS2 added interesting narrative but it created as many plot holes as it did plot lines. The game play was solid, the duel wielding and plasmid combinations were fun, it was a good game but it left me wanting more. I have said this on the forum many times but it is pertinent: if the story were strong enough to not only stand on its own but mend a few narrative weak spots from BS2 then I would buy the game(BioShock 3... some sort of Rapture Title) in a heartbeat.
I would need to be assured though, through demos or interviews, that the narrative would shine through as it did in the original; otherwise it would be BS2 all over again: a fun trip down something vaguely familiar that just feels off.
Did anyone ever watch It's a Wonderful Life? That is what BS2 made me feel like; at the end you are satisfied for a moment revelling in how adorable Zuzu is.... and then you recall that the entire film is a depressing story about a family man contemplating suicide whom is only convinced that living is worth while through the antics of a lack luster quasi-angel which shows him that life would be marginally worse for the people around him if he had never lived, but does nothing to show what the future lives of his loved ones would be if he offed himself that night. (despite my synopsis this analogy really makes more sense if you have seen the film)
What I mean is, you have the warm fuzzies one moment and then your sensibility is smacked with all of the unanswered questions, the plot holes, the "wait a second if the timeline was changed thusly then the outcome would be irreconcilably different anyway" 's. BioShock 2 pulled at heart strings but upon reflection gave more questions than answers. I liked the game; I would play a third installment, I would just hope that the story was concrete.
I would love to have another Bioshock in Rapture, either one that finishes everything off that was left hanging after a certain DLC (I'm trying to keep the spoilers out :S) or one that sets up the creation of the city. Preferably I'd want both, but the latter would be a lot harder to make into a story driven game. It could almost be a city builder, one that you then have to manage after ti is built... but there'd only be one outcome so the replayability would be lost
Personally, I loved Bioshock 2. It hit chords with me that the first one did not, or should I say that in some ways it hit different chords in me. I want something to just finish the story off now, one last trip.
I'd love to see your idea in action. After watching the opening sequence of BS 2, it really opened my eyes as to what Rapture would have been like during the heat and midst of the Civil War.
I'd like to see the permanent destruction of Rapture.
Rapture wil never die because remeber "Rapture is on the Rise"
I would like to see Raptures destruction also.Dont get me wrong I dont hate rapture I just dont want it verry slowly collapse.
Is it really?
Even now, can't you hear the breath returning to her lungs? The shops reopening, the schools humming with the thoughts of young minds?
No, I cannot.
I think Atlas has finally lost his mind and thinks the world is Rapture.
Hopefully it'll follow Eleanor.
There will always be doubters. You don't doubt me, do you? I could never stomach doubters.
One evening as the city fell
And the barrel fires were burning,
Down the hall came a splicer running,
And he said, "Boys, they are charging!"
I'm headed for a place that's far away
Besides the Worley tavern
So come with me, we'll go and be in
the bathy near the caverns.
I'll see you all when the city falls
In the bathy near the caverns.
;-)
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