endless champion

[Mawpawk]

those tournaments take so long so im wondering if any1 would be interested in a best out of 5. he who wins can proclaim himself THE ENDLESS CHAMPION.
kinda like what they had over in ps3 land,but quicker as its my idea i would be first 2 defend any would be challenger and then on it continues.anybody can challenge the champ in no certain order.just the basic idea here. any thoughts?

basically its player matches with a nice title for the civ champ c.v.

1. Challenge the champ!

2. best of 5 games no repeated civ

3. No Adar.

4. No democracy glitching. All peace requests must be accepted. All Great Wall requests must be accepted ONLY IF the player with the Great Wall has not attacked that turn. If the player with the GW attacks, he must wait until the following turn to send peace. Please play nice guys.

5. No pause glitching.

6. Players alternate hosts(current champ hosts first)

7. all challengers must be accepted first online first in?

8. 1 title defence must be played within 2weeks otherwise the title reinstates the previous champion.

9. players must choose 1 civ from each tier

10. No restarts



ENDLESS CHAMPION

1. AustinisReal19 (0-0)




current challenger; ?

[Jackoneill]

Cool idea Maw, maybe when I get some free time, I will take the challenge.It sounds fun.

[sn1p3rk1ll3]

Make it the "Afro Samurai" law; only nr 2 can challenge nr 1.

That way there'll be constant struggle and more pressure if you want to make it.

[elthrasher]

How would we know who #2 is? I'll take you down this weekend, Mawpawk, and we can get the ball rolling.

[MorteEterna]

I want to partecipate

[Mawpawk]

Cool well i guess thats that, i guess i gota learn how to make a proper thread(wish i had used capital letters in the title!) and il put the rules up later, but just need an idea how we go about civ selections to keep it interesting....hmmm i would like all civs 2 be involved without the strong civs being used all the time....

[MorteEterna]

Cool well i guess thats that, i guess i gota learn how to make a proper thread(wish i had used capital letters in the title!) and il put the rules up later, but just need an idea how we go about civ selections to keep it interesting....hmmm i would like all civs 2 be involved without the strong civs being used all the time....

No China and no Americans, everything else is ok. I was thinking about no americans only, but china is too hard to beat sometimes

[danthechan]

you just need to make a ladder to determine the rankings under 1. if 4 wants to climb they challenge 3....... they would be 1 game challenges under the top spot. with a 5 game 2 v 1 it would have to be limited as to how often 1 had to defend. maybe the underlings scuffle and once a month whoever is number 2 gets a shot at the title. we would have to guess at the starting ladder but it would flesh out pretty quick.

[dukeblue1987]

Random vs Random no restarts. Champ hosts games 1, 3, 5.

And I pity the poor fool that actually chooses a civ to better his chance at winning nothing!

[dukeblue1987]

you just need to make a ladder to determine the rankings under 1. if 4 wants to climb they challenge 3....... they would be 1 game challenges under the top spot. with a 5 game 2 v 1 it would have to be limited as to how often 1 had to defend. maybe the underlings scuffle and once a month whoever is number 2 gets a shot at the title. we would have to guess at the starting ladder but it would flesh out pretty quick.

I like this too.

[Zefelius]

Random vs Random no restarts. Champ hosts games 1, 3, 5.

And I pity the poor fool that actually chooses a civ to better his chance at winning nothing!

Winning nothing??!! You get the title of ENDLESS CHAMPION!! Well, endless, that is, until you lose!!

[Zefelius]

Would 5 games take too long? Would 3 keep things more fluid and fun, or too risky for the defender? How often does someone have to respond to a challenger? How soon? The masses want to know!

BTW, I am hereby challenging whoever is #8.

[TheCubanArmada]

Would this be for PS3 or 360? The idea of a ladder system would be amazing

[elthrasher]

Would this be for PS3 or 360? The idea of a ladder system would be amazing

This is for 360. PS3 users have something similar here: http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread...kings-of-civ-r

[MadDjinn]

you just need to make a ladder to determine the rankings under 1. if 4 wants to climb they challenge 3....... they would be 1 game challenges under the top spot. with a 5 game 2 v 1 it would have to be limited as to how often 1 had to defend. maybe the underlings scuffle and once a month whoever is number 2 gets a shot at the title. we would have to guess at the starting ladder but it would flesh out pretty quick.

sure, except that #2 loses 10 ranks if they lose. #1 loses 2 ranks (so to #3) if they lose (to #2). This way, it's not just the same two people fighting for #1, but the #1 person has a shorter path to get back to #1.

and then it's not just how many shots/month that it takes between two people. If the #2 hasn't challenged #1 in 2 weeks, then they drop.

[Mawpawk]

you just need to make a ladder to determine the rankings under 1. if 4 wants to climb they challenge 3....... they would be 1 game challenges under the top spot. with a 5 game 2 v 1 it would have to be limited as to how often 1 had to defend. maybe the underlings scuffle and once a month whoever is number 2 gets a shot at the title. we would have to guess at the starting ladder but it would flesh out pretty quick.

hmm im trying 2 make this tourney a quicker type, its possible the champion title gets passed 3-6 times in a day!a ladder system would be great iv often thought we should have our own legit ranking system but it seemed a daunting kinda job 2 organize. thinking also that a record will be kept so that a champion who defends 10 times in a row gets this totally original acclaim

ENDLESS CHAMPION PRESTIGE!

haaha dnt no where i got that from....

i like the idea of random but i also enjoy the surprise or disgust when you see what yor opponent has chosen, but whats the general consensus on america n china?
challenge response time i was thinking would be when you see the champ online? or an arranged scheduled time here, il be on most days this week so we can only give it a go, might even be a geek and put it on my bio 2 direct them here 2 our small collective.
im still writing rules up plz feel free 2 help

[ScottieX]

You should remove zulu not because they are a great civ but because they are so random. you could win 3 out of 5 just as a result of noob luck which defeats the purpose of 5 games. Otherwise good idea.

I like maddjinns point about #2 dropping. it could get tough to manage potentially one needs someone with a little dedication to record everything going on and do it in a timely fashion. But Im thinking that hasnt been a big problem in previous tournies..

[Mawpawk]

mawpawk vs austinisreal

game 1.
spain vs germany, i chose a strong civ 4 this 1 as he had just destroyed me in 2 previous player matches. i settle in 3900 and do theusual warriors exploration and gold hunting sold my units 2 rush a galleon 2 grab seven cities! so i get that and am feeling comfortable even though austin took the russians out round 3400 and i knew he was quite far down the map so i stupidly had no defence in madrid but instead a hill archer scout, that scout must hav fell asleep on the job as a geman march army took my cap which also had a brand spanking new barracks in it! i probly still could have made a game of this bad situation but a culture flip on my last surviving city ended the game!(funnily that was exactly how i lost the previous player match) gd stuff austin look forward 2 the next round.

[Austinisreal]

mawpawk vs austinisreal

game 1.
spain vs germany, i chose a strong civ 4 this 1 as he had just destroyed me in 2 previous player matches. i settle in 3900 and do theusual warriors exploration and gold hunting sold my units 2 rush a galleon 2 grab seven cities! so i get that and am feeling comfortable even though austin took the russians out round 3400 and i knew he was quite far down the map so i stupidly had no defence in madrid but instead a hill archer scout, that scout must hav fell asleep on the job as a geman march army took my cap which also had a brand spanking new barracks in it! i probly still could have made a game of this bad situation but a culture flip on my last surviving city ended the game!(funnily that was exactly how i lost the previous player match) gd stuff austin look forward 2 the next round.

It was not a march army until after I took Madrid, and you attacked with the archer. I just waited until you ended the turn and immediately ended the the turn after. I thought I would lose that game since I started on the bottom of the map, and then got pottery from my first village. Later you took one of my nearest villages. I think I only took two villages that game, but when I got Madrid with a barracks I was pretty sure I was going to win.

The game before that I dont know if you stayed for it, but I took your empty cap with a horse the same turn I cultured flipped your other city. It was sitting two spaces outside your cap for a while, as I had to wait for the artist to work(which I stole from America).

[TyShine]

I essentially let one blitz fundie horse army beat me(with defense), when I knew it was coming. I must have screwed up four or five times on the buttons. Oh well gg Maw.

We are now 1 and 1. I used Egypt and Germany. He used Spain and Rome.

[MadDjinn]

I essentially let one blitz fundie horse army beat me(with defense), when I knew it was coming. I must have screwed up four or five times on the buttons. Oh well gg Maw.

We are now 1 and 1. I used Egypt and Germany. He used Spain and Rome.

We were trying to decide if that was you or not. We were talking while you were playing and figured the Austinisreal name was a pseudo for someone good.

[TyShine]

I didnt think it would stay secret for long. In game two against Duke I knew early I would lose so I did some dumb things to make him think I was a newb.

[Mawpawk]

It was not a march army until after I took Madrid, and you attacked with the archer. I just waited until you ended the turn and immediately ended the the turn after. I thought I would lose that game since I started on the bottom of the map, and then got pottery from my first village. Later you took one of my nearest villages. I think I only took two villages that game, but when I got Madrid with a barracks I was pretty sure I was going to win.

The game before that I dont know if you stayed for it, but I took your empty cap with a horse the same turn I cultured flipped your other city. It was sitting two spaces outside your cap for a while, as I had to wait for the artist to work(which I stole from America).

yes i had all the opportunity 2 win but i lost because i left a break in my defensive perimeter ,also did u harass the americans? my other horsearmy met their AA and i couldnt take washington,also iv decided your game skill is 2 high 2 be an average player(i know secretly your morte eterna or grizz or maybe even ffgtr!your somebody who knows as much if not more than me)its cool though keep that identity safe ...and i will admit 2 underestimating you! seriously dont mind loosing 2 gd ol fair play, i actually recorded that game just 2 see how well a cam would be...its ok and its quite a good showcase of how a game can be flipped upside down on a dude due 2 slack defending because of bighead syndrom

[TyShine]

Never saw America. Went straight for you, as it was my only chance.

The last game I kept expecting my archer to get attacked first, but it kept going to my legion army. The last turn I moved a legion army out last second, hoping you would attack with the HA first, but I lost my movement and was done in. I could have formed an archer army, but I dont know what I was thinking. Oh, and I teched Monarchy fast because I saw AW early, but I was cut off from it. Had I gone straight for it, I think I would have beat you to it. Oh, and I declared war on America before you got there and they had gold, but still couldnt stop you. That was annoying.

[TyShine]

I am the first real endless champ, and am open to challenges(except for Morte)

Game 3 My Russians vs Maws Arabs-We were really close, and I was 12 beakers into HBR when I saw his colors. I decided to rush a galley and try a drop. It worked, but almost didnt do to that stupid waiting for thing from the game.

Game 4-Maw feeling sporting went Russia, unfortunately I was not in a sporting mood and went with Spain. He took England, and I just expanded kinda of lazily. Got a builder went EiTC, and built about a million defense units. He tried an attack with knights which held up oxford for a few turns, but I still got bombers around 400-500 ad. A little late for EiTC and not being pressed early, but I went extra defensive and had to get Eng. because he had the GW. It took him a while to take the English and get his 100 g so I knew I could coast to a win that game.

[TyShine]

Would you guys like to open this to the top three civs? It seems like we never use them, but I wouldnt mind. I've used them so seldom since I improved that I am probably not as good as I could be with them.

[Mawpawk]

Congrats again champ! yea first game was over quickly

the second game was a shambles from the time i made my cap , i thought the spot had 2 water tiles but alas it had only the 1 so the best i could do was plod around with warriors ,you summed it up nicely i had a hard time with the english and my 100g but also the lack of tech 2 get me 2 medival really slowed my roll, your the champ and il be surprised if some1 can knock you off that throne.....(planting seed)

and yea i would like some america and zulu time but i guess its only fair if the opponent is aware

[dukeblue1987]

Some of the best games I've ever played were America vs America.

Basically the games just come down to complete knight spam for an hour or two. Nobody wants to get to 14 techs due to increased rush costs. Surprisingly fun.

[TyShine]

New rule to challenge the Endless Champion you must claim to be king of tier first, or earn a spot as king of a tier.

[elthrasher]

New rule to challenge the Endless Champion you must claim to be king of tier first, or earn a spot as king of a tier.

I'd say you must claim and defend a title.

[TyShine]

I'd say you must claim and defend a title.

Yes, and championship is best of 5. Each player must choose one civ from each tier.

[MorteEterna]

I challenge whoever is the champion

[TyShine]

I challenge whoever is the champion

That is me. I havent played in a month or so, but Ill try to find the time. After Monday would be good.

[ScottieX]

I suggest either tyshine confirms he can defend this in a week or it be declared vacant.
Morte as the manditory challenger (i assume he still has a title) but if not mawpawk or me.
if tyshine cant get a game in then morte vs me or mawpawk for the title

[MorteEterna]

I suggest either tyshine confirms he can defend this in a week or it be declared vacant.
Morte as the manditory challenger (i assume he still has a title) but if not mawpawk or me.
if tyshine cant get a game in then morte vs me or mawpawk for the title

I have one or two titles I think, I'm sure about the arabs,aztecs,spanish one. However I don't know what you want to do.

[TyShine]

I will have to give this and the bottom tier up. I havent had an xbox live account for months, and dont think I will have one in the future.

[JackHall2003]

I will have to give this and the bottom tier up. I havent had an xbox live account for months, and dont think I will have one in the future.

Well, retiring as endless champ aint all that bad. Good luck.

I assume it now defaults to Morte.

[elthrasher]

Well, that's not really endless now, is it?

[JackHall2003]

In his own head, if he never checks in here again!

[MorteEterna]

If TyShine can't play, well, I think you can start challenging me