I rather have Jon Shaffer fired rather than quit. Yes he left on his own terms, or so was said, so that means Firaxis didn't fire him, so no admitance to that Civ V is sub par game. So what does that leave us? Jon Shaffer quit the mess that he created?
I think Civ V is a mess, many others do not. Ok lets say it's not a mess, so there is no argument here. Why would a guy say he loves Civ, he is a fan, a player and it's an honour blah blah blah to be a lead designer for the game, why would he quit his "baby" then?
To me he is tucking tail and running away. Why would he have to move on to "greener pastures" sort to speak? Is Firaxis that bad? I thought it was suppose to be heaven to work there. (I guess the 20 or more people who got fired one month before release could say otherwise) Why would a young guy in his mid 20's want to leave a supposed top notch company?
Jon Shaffer is no Sid Meir. He is no Brian Reynolds who I believe made 2 of the best games ever, Civ II and Alpha Centauri. While Jon Shaffer fixed the mess that Civ IV was, he made one of his own. He can't think he is that good to be quitting a company and that he is better than them, can he?
Look at Sid. Look at Brian. They both failed misserably, (according to true civ fans, I disagree though) with their Civ Revolution games and online only games. I do not believe Jon is capable to do what Sid and Brian have accomplished. What can Jon do that Sid or Brian can't? I guess time will tell.
But with no comment on Civ V officially, and 2K and Firaxis already having our money, is Civ V a sinking ship now? I for one will not be buying any DLC because I see it only as a quick money grab now that they need to milk Civ V before it runs dry.
No comments on any future DLC or expansion packs. No comments on any plans whats so ever. I really don't want to be negative here, but I finally came back to Civ V after being upset with it, slowly enjoying the game once again, and now this.
Well seeing as today is Sunday, nobody is at work, I guess there will be no comment, but if we hear nothing tomorrow, what can we think? All I can think of is Sinking Ship.
If that is the case or not, who knows, but where is the 2K people to talk about it? I find it very disapointing, 2K only talks about positvie things, but when something negative comes up, they are so quiet.
Not even a comment of " yes Mr Shaffer is gone, but support is still continuing for Civ V and future plans are still being developed". This is very unsettling as a Civ fan. Why should I continue to support a company that can't even be bothered to keep their fans, who support them, support us?
Purpose of this post? I don't know. Just wanted to say my opnion of what I am thinking. I hated the game, when it came out, I gave it a try, I quit it, came back to it after the patch, slowly enjoying the game, and this. I guess I just want to know if I should be worried or not as a fan.
I read this on Civfanitics forum. This really worries me. This is why I think so. Civ V is proclaimed by many a great success, money wise. So if this is true, why do you let your Lead Designer go? You offer him more to keep him. You just don't let him go and say "we wish him well".I think that Civ V from now on is put to the grave. You are not letting go main designer if product was good, it seems that they make mistake and now they cutting off from this product
This could be true as well. Maybe my anger shouldn't be all on Jon himself and 2K/Firaxis is to be blamed themselves. But again, with both parties being quiet, it is usually the lead desinger that takes all the credit when things are good, and takes all the blame when things are bad. With both parites being quiet, what to believe then?I'm personally not very surprised at his departure. Clearly Civ5 didn't have as positive a reception as 2K / Firaxis (and Jon himself) would have liked - and yes, before half of you get up in arms, I know the majority of the players enjoy it, but you can't deny the significant blowback from the fanbase. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Jon decided to leave of his own accord out of disagreements with the direction set by the producers and publishers. I don't think Jon's the bad guy and solely to blame for any flaws in the game, even though I'm not wild about Civ 5.