If you need to have your game refunded, here's how.

[Kursa]

I was able to return my copy of Bioshock to Gamestop today. Sorry, I just couldnt deal with the crap associated with it right now. Maybe a few months down the road, I'll rebuy a copy.

Anyways, if you are one of those who wishes to return it for actual money of how you paid for it for whatever reasons (securom/2k screwed you with the crappy no valid installation, unbearable crashes, .exe wouldn't start up, etc), you can tell them the following:

By law and according to 2K EULA agreement you agree to the terms and conditions regarding the installation of the product.

Under these set of rules, it is perfectly legal to uninstall the said product and reinstall it on another machine that is owned by the buyer of the product. Typically, one needs multiple products to install on multiple systems but one only needs one product and if he or she wished to uninstall the product, the consumer has every right to reinstall it onto another machine that is owned by him or her.....indefinetely.

Securom, hinges on your rights as the buyer. Securom, in general, does not; however, the practice of allowing only two installs do hinge on the right. It is the same as buying a Ford Mustang. True, you cannot advertise your Ford Mustang on TV to make profit as you would violate their buyers contract. HOWEVER, if you fully bought that Ford Mustang, it is yours until you deem fit to get rid of it. Ford cannot limit your driving or years of ownership if fully paid by you.

With your rights as a consumer both by US Consumer standards and by the very EULA contract on page 34 of Bioshock manual, 2K are in violation of their own contractual agreement with the buyer.

I'm not talking about the game being crappy for you to give the game back. Im talking about the violations that has occured under securom. Now, if 2K were to altar Securom so that you still need the DVD to play but allows you to receive unlimited installs, then their contract to you will be fulfilled.

But, right now, 2K is in violation of their User End Agreement.

Trust me when I say this. I graduated from Regent Law School in Virginia Beach, Va in 2006 and I received my license in Oklahoma after passing my Bar Exam in Feb. of 2007.

Explaining those violations will give you your refund back by the store you bought it from (with a receipt) or by 2K actual company.

Good luck.

**this post was locked by Elizabeth2K yesterday but I felt that every consumer had the right to know this; whether you love the company or was indifferent about it.

[Mr. P]

Finally someone with some intelligence. He had a problem and he fixed it himself. Unlike the rest of the kids here saying stupid ☺☺☺☺ and threatening class action lawsuits.

[sturmbb]

Originally Posted by Mr. P

Finally someone with some intelligence. He had a problem and he fixed it himself. Unlike the rest of the kids here saying stupid ☺☺☺☺ and threatening class action lawsuits.

funnyer how they closed this same post last night becouse a fanboiy came in and started a flamewar

[shiznit]

is it legal for a free demo to infect your pc with securom rootkit? its free so it cant be to prevent piracy, unless they were using the demo to "prep" or PCs for possible piracy. BTW, this tread will get closed very soon, save a copy in case you need to refer to it later.

[Kursa]

Originally Posted by shiznit

is it legal for a free demo to infect your pc with securom rootkit? its free so it cant be to prevent piracy, unless they were using the demo to "prep" or PCs for possible piracy. BTW, this tread will get closed very soon, save a copy in case you need to refer to it later.

Actually, no. That is not legal also. You cannot sue for damages. However, you can sue to force 2K to remove that piece of software from the DVDs. It's parallel to Sony's Malware debacle three years ago in Texas when they placed malware into the owner of their CDs' harddrives.

You were not told on the box or before installation that 2K was placing an indeletable folder into your registry. That is against the law (well, U.S. law). To be more precise, installation of a spyware, adware, or malware (Securom is Malware) into a consumer's PC without the beforementioned and/or approval of the malware by the owner of that PC is illegal in 39 states of the United States. Sorry, I dont know the laws governing UK.

But in the US, if you need to return your product, just mention that. You should have no problem getting it refunded, as 2K knows the same laws I do. They have lawyers too; they were just hoping peope wouldn't see it or didn't care about it.

[Khajiit]

I have copy/pasted what Kursa posted just in case this topic gets locked or, even worse, if Kursa gets banned.

[Rebelphoenix]

Originally Posted by Khajiit

I have copy/pasted what Kursa posted just in case this topic gets locked or, even worse, if Kursa gets banned.

I wouldn't be shocked if anyone that mentions the rootkit situation does get banned.

[Smiths]

Originally Posted by Kursa

Trust me when I say this. I graduated from Regent Law School in Virginia Beach, Va in 2006 and I received my license in Oklahoma after passing my Bar Exam in Feb. of 2007.

I'm sorry, but I have to call you out on this. Regent University (formerly Christian Broadcasting Network Universtiy) is the Pat Robertson school of fanaticism. Your easily impeachable educational credentials makes me less inclined to follow your advice.

I'm surprised to even see you attempting to play this game since "M" rated games are expressly prohibited in your school's code of conduct.

That said, keep up the good fight though! Glad you got your money back.

[vbnm247]

Well,I was gona be getting this game tomorrow but I have changed my mind. Securom sucks, the FOV sucks and I no longer trust 2k anymore. I am sure they wont miss my £35 as much as I will miss their game but Bioshock just seems to messed up right now.

[BioshockClassAction]

Smiths what in the hell is your problem the guy has an LLD and a license to practice law which is two legal credentials more than you have got.

Take your tiresome dime store political activism elsewhere it has nothing to do with gaming