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Old 01-30-2010
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Bioshock2 PC- Does it support 360 gamepad ingame??

Please can someone confirm this as according to this page you say it does not support gamepads at all but its not clear if that relates to just the UI/HUD or the entire game.

For people like me who game on a large HDTV connected to my PC using the wireless 360 gamepad it means no gamepad support = no purchase so unless you can confirm I have to cancel my pre-order.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture...2pcmegafeature

I just cannot believe that you have removed gamepad support as Bioshock1 had a very good experience with the 360 gamepad.

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They have dropped gamepad support entirely on the PC, to focus on polishing keyboard/mouse controls.
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http://twitter.com/BioShock2

Ok so I see from this recent twitter post your not supporting gamepads at all

Please can someone from 2K explain why your excluding all the players who have to use gamepads like me or even PC players (who I am aware of exist) who cannot even use mouse + kb due to physical disabilities so have to use gamepads!

It seems to me your excluding a lot of players here for no good reason as UT3 engine supports gamepads as did PC Bioshock1. Many highend PC gamers now use massive HDTV's and mouse + kb is just not practical in this scenario.

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http://twitter.com/BioShock2

Ok so I see from this recent twitter post your not supporting gamepads at all

Please can someone from 2K explain why your excluding all the players who have to use gamepads like me or even PC players (who I am aware of exist) who cannot even use mouse + kb due to physical disabilities so have to use gamepads!

It seems to me your excluding a lot of players here for no good reason as UT3 engine supports gamepads as did PC Bioshock1. Many highend PC gamers now use massive HDTV's and mouse + kb is just not practical in this scenario.

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it might be for balancing Multiplayer, or maybe they really aimed PC version to be played with very balanced mouse controls.
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They have dropped gamepad support entirely on the PC, to focus on polishing keyboard/mouse controls.
Yeah I just saw that. It excludes a lot of players then as Bioshock1 on PC was amazing on my HDTV you really need a massive screen to get the full atmosphere and a wireless gamepad is essential to this now they hack it out when it was so well implemented in part1. It just seems like a large backwards step to save money as most games use the 360 gamepad as standard now I know of people who will not be able to even buy the PC version due to physical issues they can only game on a gamepad. I know you can get xpadder and configure that (if the DRM lets it run in the background) but it seems like a very poor decision & did 2K even put much thought into this as surely you want the PC version to reach the widest possible userbase when people are continually looking for excuses not to buy it (like they did with the DRM until 2K scaled it back).
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Yeah I just saw that. It excludes a lot of players then as Bioshock1 on PC was amazing on my HDTV you really need a massive screen to get the full atmosphere and a wireless gamepad is essential to this now they hack it out when it was so well implemented in part1. It just seems like a large backwards step to save money as most games use the 360 gamepad as standard now I know of people who will not be able to even buy the PC version due to physical issues they can only game on a gamepad. I know you can get xpadder and configure that (if the DRM lets it run in the background) but it seems like a very poor decision & did 2K even put much thought into this as surely you want the PC version to reach the widest possible userbase when people are continually looking for excuses not to buy it (like they did with the DRM until 2K scaled it back).
Chances are, if a gamer is so dependent on gamepads, they'll have a console.
If you're sitting in front of the TV and using a gamepad, it's basically the same thing.
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There are third-party applications you can use so that Bio2 will be playable with a controller. Try XPadder.

I'm glad that they are focusing on improving the mouse/keyboard support. The last game had terrible mouse control.
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=Please can someone from 2K explain why your excluding all the players who have to use gamepads like me or even PC players (who I am aware of exist) who cannot even use mouse + kb due to physical disabilities so have to use gamepads!
What physical disability could you possibly have that makes keyboard and mouse untenable but makes gamepads preferable?

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Yeah I just saw that. It excludes a lot of players then as Bioshock1 on PC was amazing on my HDTV you really need a massive screen to get the full atmosphere and a wireless gamepad is essential to this now they hack it out when it was so well implemented in part1. It just seems like a large backwards step to save money as most games use the 360 gamepad as standard now I know of people who will not be able to even buy the PC version due to physical issues they can only game on a gamepad. I know you can get xpadder and configure that (if the DRM lets it run in the background) but it seems like a very poor decision & did 2K even put much thought into this as surely you want the PC version to reach the widest possible userbase when people are continually looking for excuses not to buy it (like they did with the DRM until 2K scaled it back).
Wow, unformatted walls of text for the loss.

As I understand it, your kind is a minority. More importantly, gamepads are hardly essential. Most importantly, why would you play BioShock 2 on the PC if not for the vastly superior mouse and keyboard control scheme?
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Well that sucks, but oh well. Its not enough to warrant me to cancel my purchase.
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Well that sucks, but oh well. Its not enough to warrant me to cancel my purchase.
It does indeed suck and has changed my mind on buying. I loved Bioshock 1 on PC but use a pad for my 42" HDTV.

If I have to resort to using Pinnacle/Xpadder for any new release in 2010 it now gets relegated to cheap deals as there are plenty of devs giving the option of a pad to gamers in their games to give my money to in the coming months. Indeed thanks to finding out about no pad support this morning BS2 has been demoted from day 1 purchase to a "wait and see", being replaced as my next purchase by the controller enabled AvP coming the week after.

If anyone from 2K reads this is there any chance 2K will see their mistake and release a patch for those who use the standard windows controller? I was really looking forward to this but I am really gutted by this strange decision. I have been told you listen to your consumers 2K, so I would ask you please can you put controller support back in.
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