Why DX10?

[vahid]

it is absolutely ridiculous that they added DX10 support too. it is unfair for the other DX9 users to get the same price for buying the game.

They should sell in a cheaper price for users with DX9 hardware and more expensive for DX10 users.

Personally myself I just hate DX10 and i wish it wont be ever successful.
its silly to buy additional DX10 hardware and plus vista so you can just play DX10 games.

its like saying "Getting gullible people to pay me $500 for just mostly snake oil"

[Freddo]

The only thing DX10 Bioshock got over DX9 Bioshock is some water effects. Hardly important. It's not something I will get DX10 for now, but rather something I will experience when I replay the game for the 5th time in 2010 or so.

I guess you dislike how Half-Life 2 support DX7, DX8 and DX9 too? And how Thief runs in software or in DX6? Or how Morrowind runs in DX7 or DX8? Or how, well, you get the point.

[Jeff]

Durrrrrrrrrrr, Welcome to PC gaming?

[MF9000]

You might as well complain how we went from word processors to computers that do word processing and more. My first computer-like device that I purchased was a dedicated Brother word processor that took 3.5 inch floppies for saving purposes only. The operating system was chip based. When computers became affordable to the general public I jumped at the chance to get one. Technology marches on. Besides, wait long enough and the DX10 cards will come down in price. Besides with Bioshock it is not a necessity to have a DX10 card. Irrational made the wise choice of making sure we would have DX9 support. Just like they were wise not to make the game Vista and XBox only. You'll be glad for the DX10 support when you upgrade.

[vahid]

Why Nvidia and ATI just dont hand out free DX10 hardware?

They make enough money. They should be kind enough to just hand out free GPUs once in a year at least.

[Freddo]

Originally Posted by vahid

Why Nvidia and ATI just dont hand out free DX10 hardware?

Because they are companies, and the main goal for the vast majority of companies out there are to make a profit.

Originally Posted by vahid

They make enough money.

No, they don't. The financial status of AMD/ATI is rather weak at the moment.

Originally Posted by vahid

They should be kind enough to just hand out free GPUs once in a year at least.

I'm pretty sure they hand out free cards now and then. The chance that you and me would be the ones who recived them is, however, extremly slim.

[vahid]

I will only get a DX10 card when it goes down to what its actually worth like $5.

[sajuuk]

Originally Posted by Freddo

The only thing DX10 Bioshock got over DX9 Bioshock is some water effects. Hardly important. It's not something I will get DX10 for now, but rather something I will experience when I replay the game for the 5th time in 2010 or so.

The odd thing is according to the interview, the developer said the water will look the same on both 360 and PC.
And does 360 have DX10?

I kinda agree with the topic creator.
DX10 has somehow become the dev's commercial crap these days, as the fact that most of their games they claimed to be DX10 are not truely DX10.
Those games are simply multi-platform titles with DX10 patch for slight graphical updates. Take a look at Halo2 Vista.

If you want "Real" DX10 games, check out Crysis and World In Conflict, these titles are exclusively made for PC and DX10.

[v.dog]

Originally Posted by vahid

it is absolutely ridiculous that they added DX10 support too. it is unfair for the other DX9 users to get the same price for buying the game.

Why?

They should sell in a cheaper price for users with DX9 hardware and more expensive for DX10 users.

Again, why? There's no rationale to your statments.

Personally myself I just hate DX10 and i wish it wont be ever successful.

See my previous statement.

its silly to buy additional DX10 hardware and plus vista so you can just play DX10 games.

Hold the phone. Let's clarify a few things:

1. Technology is not static. Things advance; old technology becomes obsolete as better technology replaces it. If it didn't we'd all still be playing Pong (if that) on computers that that use valves, are as big as a house, and consume as much power as a small city.
   
   I don't know if you remember when the hardware graphics accelerators first came on the market. They used to be optional, now you can't and wouldn't want to play without one.
   
   
2. The technology is optional. You do not have to have the latest hardware. While you will get a better experience on Vista with a DX10 GPU, on XP under DX9 the game still looks fantastic.
   
   Again, look at the first generation of graphics cards. If you bought one, games like HL looked great, but it you ran in software mode, it wasn't bad either.
   
   
3. The game needn't cost more to impliment both DX9 and 10. If they develop with DX10 in mind, and then scale it back to DX9, the overhead cost is minimal. It's not like they built the DX9 version and then built a DX10 version as well.

I'm having to buy a whole new rig this year. I'm looking to spend about about $NZ2000. I could ballyhoo about how it's not fair that developers aren't making games for my machine any more, but instead, I see the leaps and bound they are making in terms of AI, physics, and graphics, and I want to be part of that.

Games are more bigger, more immersive, more interactive, and more fun than ever, but it takes more powerful hardware to get there. This is the price you pay as a gamer, whether it be PC or console.

[Thogec]

I fully agree with the last poster. If you aren't willing to get the hardware upgrade for DX10, don't complain that devs are designing with it in mind. shoot, in about 2-4 years, DX10 will be in everything and you'll just be complaining about the next gen games comming out for DX11 or higher. I've purchased several games in the last two years and had to install everything from DX6 on up through 10, and am not complaining in the slightest. My experience within the games themselves I find to be more fulfilling and enjoyable, so I'll throw out the $200 on a DX10 card, with upper specs for this week and not complain. I also won't worry about my next upgrade for another 3+ years, unless GCs advance so much that my system won't run the internet anymore.

sigh, the price we pay for a money sink, and escape from reality.
You know what they say, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

/rantoff