How many installs do we get ? Transfer of ownership ?

[Club Heaven]

I can't believe they're stupid enough to alienate the PC fanbase like this. Their future greatly depends on how much we respect them and they are toying with us like we're not even part of the equation.

[Dutch]

srry im done, its a great game but being anal raped to play it is a step to far for me.


its pirate time

[FISKER_Q]

Steam version apparently also have this, but instead of 2 installs it's limited to different pc's, story here:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...d.php?t=589874

[lurchibald]

what about hardware failure? what if our harddrive burns out/anything else? fark me! do they expect computer hardware to last forever?

[Supermax]

So lets get this straight: IF you buy it you can install and uninstall it two times, then its OVER? WTF?

IS IT NOT CONFIRMED YET OR WTF IS GOING ON WITH 2K???

[yogibbear]

WTF?! 2k you suck! You're so lucky I like the game and I can't cancel my preorder that you're still going to get my money. Please fix like the 2
masssive massive problems with this game:

1. drop securom protection, it sucks, it puts a rootkit on my pc!! it does not stop piracy
2. support true widescreen

Please 2k stop pissing off the dedicated pc gamers that are trying really REALLY hard to like you, despite these problems

[Mellifluous]

You guys should calm down a bit.

Unfortunately, with many of today's games, you have to activate online. If you have a problem with it I suggest emailing the company and saying you're unhappy with this method of activation. Say it puts you off buying the publisher's titles in future. Despite the protection system, I think the companies do try their best to help genuine customers though.

I recently bought Test Drive Unlimited online, installed it 3 times after problems with my operating system, and then was locked out of the game because of a 3 install limit. An email to the copy protection co (I think it was Securcom, but not 100%) resulted in a manual activation code PLUS resetting activation limit to 3 again.

While I'm not happy with the copy protection, I was happy with the speedy response and that they didn't interrogate me about why I had gone over the limit.

By the sounds of it though, a lot of you are doing stuff that the copy protection is meant to protect against e.g. installing on more than 1 PC at the same time so that brother is playing at same time as you etc. That's technically against the license agreement (of any game, not just BioShock).

The activation isn't as bad as is being made out; it's more stringent than Half Life 2 but about equal in other ways when you think that to activate either game you do need internet connection. I'd prefer a one-time activation though like Steam with Half Life 2 where you have an account that associates all your games with you. Maybe Securcom will do that in future.

[Pas De Charge]

Im almost afraid to voice this thought but has anyone else taken a stop back and honestly asked whether 2k wouldnt have seen this coming?

I mean, they must play pc games, they know what a ball breaker a 2 install limit would be and yet they're enforcing it even on steam which has its own security... so why did they go ahead and do it anyway?

I reckon there are two options, one good and one bad.
The good one is that yet again were just being left in the dark and that this, as some people have suggested, is just a temporary thing to try and curb the launch piracy. If this is the case then ok, but get it removed quick and thanks for letting us know

The bad one is that they saw this coming and thought it was worth the ☺☺☺☺☺ing and lost profits (4 a.m forever) and are going to back this protection all the way... bad for obvious reasons.

Tbh after all the ☺☺☺☺ ups ive still got a teeny tiney bit of faith (i hate to use the word but its all i can think of) that they wouldnt ☺☺☺☺ us over THAT much, so lets hope its just temporary and try and chill out a bit. Shades on people

[2K Elizabeth]

hey guys,

first, let me say this. you DO NOT NEED TO USE THE INTERNET EVERY TIME YOU PLAY THIS GAME. it is only the first time.

second, you can uninstall and reinstall this game, and if, by chance, you have 2 computers you want to simultaneously play this game on, you also can do that.

if by some chance you are reinstalling this game without uninstalling it first, a lot, there is a chance you may have to call securom and get a key, or deactivate some older installations.

but if you upgrade your hardware next week, you'll still be able to play the game. if you revamp your system and need to reinstall bioshock, just uninstall it before you go through the overhaul, and then do your reinstall.

calling it "hardware fingerprinting" is a bit alarmist. we do not transmit any of your data to any companies.

really, the only people who will be concerned about any of these security measures are those who are rapidly putting bioshock on many pcs... if you use the game as you normally do, you won't notice this at all.

[jjensson]

OK, i just cancelled my preorder at game.co.uk. ☺☺☺☺ you, 2k. Can i be any more clear than this?
jj