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bummerman
08-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Today I tried opening up my game and windows wouldn't allow me to open the exe. file. At the same time I got a virus warning about the same execute file. So , I decided to uninstall and reinstall the game. When the autopatcher started, the file downloaded but didn't patch cause of an invalid signature whatever that is. So I'm in limbo waiting for tech support to pickup the phone and recycling attempts to autopatch the game..Anybody else having this problem or know a solution?

IanR
08-28-2007, 04:24 PM
Yes, I have had exactly the same problem as you - Game crashed last night, today AVG thinks it has a virus, .exe will not run, un & reinstall and the autopatcher says invalid checksum. Damn annoying, since I'd got a fair way through the game too:mad:

sean_clarke
08-28-2007, 04:26 PM
Same thing- AGP free, game vanisihed from windows games (Vista), AGP 'fixed' the file, all gone, can't run.

Brand new fully up to date quad core NVidia 8 series 4 megs etc etc and could only run Dx9 anyway...the one time it run, truely pathetic.

Personally, I have contacted Amazon for a refund, relesasing a clearly unfinished game (must have needed a fast injection of money) is unbelievably poor- I wonder how many 10's of thousands of frustraited hours and anger have been vented on this game.

Af0rest0fAsh
08-28-2007, 04:27 PM
i have the same problem...unfortunately i dont know how to fix it. ARG!

sean_clarke
08-28-2007, 04:34 PM
As it worked yesterday I can only assume the file was added as a pottential virus in an update after the release!

This is rapidly tuning in to a farse for 2K :mad:

Martin C
08-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I've just experienced the same problem and I'm simply not impressed. I paid good money to play a quality title and I simply can't get this game re-installed due to a simply retarded copyright protection scheme. I just hope 2K has the balls to address the issue soon.

bummerman
08-28-2007, 04:35 PM
well I'm diual booting ,so while they iron this out I'll switch to xp and copy my vista saved games over,should I say it,"This is crap!!!!!!":(

MabusRaeen
08-28-2007, 04:42 PM
I figure it might actually be the patch file.

Here why:

I have exactly the same problem today while installing on my new machine. I installed the game for the first time on friday without any problems. I played it, again with out any problems other then choppy frame rate.

So, it seems that there might actually be a problem with the patch file.

I use the free version of AVG and it too gives a warning just after the patch file download is finished.

Disabling AVG doesn't help.
Different folders don't make a difference.
Different drive letter for your CD doesn't work.
Having a fresh install of windows doesn't work.

Conclusion: Patch file got corrupted or were getting the wrong file for our install.

In short, something went wrong between now and friday and it sucks.

The Disciple
08-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Same here too. On Xp; Avg detected virus via the Bioshock exe. Now after i uninstalled and re-installed; autopatcher says invalid file and AVG pops up with virus detected again. Obfustat.JXR is the virus.

Lackadaisy
08-28-2007, 04:43 PM
Yeah, this is happening to me too. I thought that turning off AVG would work, but it doesn't do anything. Even then, I told AVG to ignore it in the first place, so I don't know what the deal is.

bummerman
08-28-2007, 04:49 PM
All I can say is, Bioshock,Biosucks!!!!!!!

Af0rest0fAsh
08-28-2007, 04:51 PM
as far as the virus thing goes, i dont know. but i just got off the phone with tech support, and he said that they've got a huge server problem at the moment. he said thats why the patch has "an invalid signature"

so i guess just hang on tight untill they fix it.

Satans Arse
08-28-2007, 04:53 PM
This works, see earlier posts.

Avast and Bioshock are working beatifully together, so far.
Uninstall AVG, reboot, install Bioshock, install Avast free, reboot. Everything is running fine now.

bummerman
08-28-2007, 05:03 PM
like I said before, I'm dual booting so I went over to xp, got the avg. virus warning and immediately uninstalled avg.Restarted the computer and Bioshock started right up, so I ignored the warning and uninstalled the anti virus program. I got another computer dual booting with 2 biosuck installs so I guess I better do the same there till this is resolved

sean_clarke
08-28-2007, 05:03 PM
Unbelivable!

Uninstall, reinstall, remove a pefectly good virus checker...re-install...another night gone...

The Disciple
08-28-2007, 05:04 PM
This works, see earlier posts.

Avast and Bioshock are working beatifully together, so far.
Uninstall AVG, reboot, install Bioshock, install Avast free, reboot. Everything is running fine now.
Well i'm off to bed but if AVG still see's it as a virus then i'll go to avast.

IanR
08-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Tried re-installing with AVG turned off, no luck, still comes up with invalid checksum - looks like 2K have managed to break their own patch.:mad: :mad:

AckAck
08-28-2007, 05:21 PM
I too am having the same problems, god its like STALKER all over again. Will I ever complete a game without some form of problems that besiege me after PAYING for a game :rolleyes:
Well I'm hoping its a server issue because I'm not removing AVG for a game.

Fivepast
08-28-2007, 05:22 PM
Exactly the same thing here about fifteen minutes ago - after playing most of the day, AVG suddenly decided to wipe out my .exe (despite the fact that I clicked Ignore). Uninstall, reinstall, download a patch, "invalid signature file."

I'm going to bed!

Af0rest0fAsh
08-28-2007, 05:33 PM
ummm...SERVER PROBLEMS people.

hang tight.

krazyxazn
08-28-2007, 05:34 PM
Same thing here, when I tried to reinstall after I got that Virus popup.

Nil Einne
08-28-2007, 05:38 PM
One thing, bear in mind if you have an existing virus it will likely infect the file which may cause the invalid signature. However it seems to me this is unlikely to be the case given that many people are getting the same thing. Is your internet connection unreliable i.e. you often get corrupt downloads (you may not necessarily know if the download is corrupt unless it's an archive, zip, rar, 7z etc)

As for the AVG thing, I've heard AVG has a false positive which may or may not be related to the incidious copyprotection

Max_R
08-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Same thing for me. Avg popup and corruption. I've tried to reinstall without success. This "invalid signature" message make me angry. I've buyed the game and I want to play it.

Satans Arse
08-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Turning AVG off does not work, you need to uninstall it, it's an arse but it's the only way around it.

bummerman
08-28-2007, 06:00 PM
i CORROBORATE THAT IF YOU UNINSTALL aVG., THEN TRY INSTALLING THE GAME UPON RESTART, IT WORKS AGAIN, DIDN'T HAVE TO GIVE A NUMBER EITHER...bIOSUCK, YOU ARE NOW MY WONDERFUL, LOVABLE bIOSHOCK, AGAIN...MWAA:D

AckAck
08-28-2007, 06:23 PM
Yep I can confirm that uninstalling AVG and reinstalling Bioshock works :mad:

Do I risk reinstalling AVG or wait till someone has a better suggestion.

blah
08-28-2007, 06:26 PM
Wait till tomorrow when the next patch from avg comes out in order to correct the false positive I'm guessing...

tunk
08-28-2007, 06:53 PM
well..my first post here and I'll join the list of AVG+Bioshock= BAD!

I hope it gets fixed cause I really like AVG!

BTW...I bought and installed the game the day it came out but yet to play it because I was gonna wait for the first patch release.

I put up my add/remove program list and got that annoying AVG warning - OBjustat.JXR virus

I think I might just return the game and wait for ETQW

Glottis
08-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Turning AVG off does not work, you need to uninstall it, it's an arse but it's the only way around it.


I wonder if Grisoft is aware thier software is buggy ? and screwing up the game.

leary
08-28-2007, 08:26 PM
This game was running fine up until today and then I got the AVG virus warning OBjustat.JXR virus. Now the .exe is gone but it still is listed in the add/remove program list. So yup...it got me too!!!:confused:

So from what has been listed so far there doesn't seem to be a fix short of uninstalling the AVG...right? I'm not ready to do that yet. Someone has to have a solution.........please.

Cyanil
08-28-2007, 09:53 PM
Same thing here, as everyone else it seems. AVG free is installed right now (Has been since way before BioShock has been on my sys), and I get the same Ivalid signature error. AVG warns that obfustat.jxr (whatever the heck that is...) is a dangerous filed. Tried to re-install after the first issue, and same thing. Game worked absolutely fine as of last night, but trying to play it today yielded this result, and leaves the game completely useless for me right now.

I've had the game installed for about a week, and I'm running Win XP64 BTW... What gives?

:mad: :( :confused:

Dman
08-28-2007, 10:06 PM
ummm...SERVER PROBLEMS people.

hang tight.

To the avast peeps.. That program is a control hog. I have run both and found that AVG does a better job.

and like the others, I got the burp..

Say wouldn't it be better for the PC people to download the patch them selves? I would think they know how to do that.. I mean it just like doing a ..... doing a dl for a demo.

Then less of server burps and a corrupted patch can be rectified by patching backwards. (unless there isn't a previous patch)

Cartman83
08-28-2007, 10:24 PM
Well...at least I'm not alone. :)

I've got the same problem as it seems everyone here does: I got home, turned on my computer, AVG downloaded a new update, got the AVG warning - OBjustat.JXR, my Bioshock.exe got corrupted, uninstalled the game, and when I tried to reinstall I got the "invalid signature" problem from the autopatcher.

The game was working fine just last night, so it's almost certainly AVG. I might try uninstalling it, but frankly I don't feel comfortable running my comp without a good anti-virus program. I'll wait a day or two to see if either the AVG or Bioshock people get this problem worked out.

Vdias
08-28-2007, 11:56 PM
I don't know how this turned into an AVG thread but I'm still stuck on the original problem where I'm geting "invalid signature file" on the autopatcher. Since I don't have AVG nor have I been able to get it working in the first place, I'm still stuck in limbo. Any ideas what to do?

Hadrian
08-28-2007, 11:59 PM
@ Vdias , I dont know if it will help but ; If you have a router try bypassing it and connecting directly to the internet just for the patch file , and while doing so disable and Firewall or Anti-Virus software and see if it helps.

Vdias
08-29-2007, 12:03 AM
Thanks for the reply Hadrian, nice to know there are still helpful people out there :D.

Anyway, no router, no anti-virus. Firewall disabled. Problem is still there. I don't think it's network related or otherwise I wouldn't have been able to connect to the auto-patcher server in the first place.

It is downloading something because just before it try to re-download the patch again there actually appears a Bioshock.exe file in the install directory. But it disappears as soon as it tries to reinstall.

PS: I've tried downloading it a good 10 times already and it's driving my download limit up. Living in Australia, the land of crappy broadband...

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 12:14 AM
Well it sounds like a corrupted download to me, but I cant be certain. BTW is your comp overclocked at all ? Its a known issue with software that certain OC settings (specifically bad memory timings or failing memory modules) can cause corruption of data. Might want to run something like MEMTEST to verify its not system memory related.

Vdias
08-29-2007, 12:15 AM
Not overclocked. I think it's highly unlikely that it's memory-related but I'll run MEMTEST anyway.

Greg.Crowe
08-29-2007, 12:17 AM
Vdias - I think you have a different problem than 99% of the people experiencing Sudden BioShock Death Syndrome (SDSD). I have no idea about your patch signature issue, though it does sound like it might be related to the rest of our AVG issues.

For what it's worth, what you lack in broad band, you make up in great SCUBA.

Regards,
- Greg

PS - BioShock forum admin - kindly be aware that your NoSpam! capchka is super busted.

iamaelephant
08-29-2007, 12:35 AM
I can confirm that uninstalling AVG fixes this problem. And I'm pretty pissed off that I had to remove my virus checker just so 2K could install their viral DRM on my machine. This game better be damn good.

Vdias
08-29-2007, 12:50 AM
Well I found another way to get around the issue. It's not perfect and to be honest I'm not sure if it's 100% legal. But it was the only way for me to get it to install.

1. Install as normal. When you get to the autopatcher, let it try to download the patch. Eventually you'll get to that damned "invalid signature file" error.

2. Rename your Bioshock folder to something else. If you had 'Bioshock' as the folder name, try changing it to 'Bioshocktemp'

3. Cancel the installation, and rename your folder back to 'Bioshock' again.

4. Download a file called 'd3dx9_33.dll'. I don't want to hotlink it so just go and google it. The first result should get you the file.

5. Copy above file to your 'Bioshock\Builds\Release' folder.

6. Run Bioshock.exe as normal, enter your activation key and volia.

7. Play the best game of the year :D

If this is illegal, feel free to remove this post. I didn't want to do it this way (after all I had paid for the game) but since I didn't know what else to do to get it working. I hope this is of some help to the rest of you.

And no, I don't have AVG.

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 12:51 AM
Nice one Vdias, congrats on getting your game to work. Enjoy it!

ipeelscats
08-29-2007, 01:41 AM
I have the same issue that everyone else here has. AVG and dead bioshock. It worked fine earlier this week and now the exe is considered a virus and reinstalling fails at the patch download. A little help from the devs would be great

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 01:44 AM
I have the same issue that everyone else here has. AVG and dead bioshock. It worked fine earlier this week and now the exe is considered a virus and reinstalling fails at the patch download. A little help from the devs would be great

Please refer to this thread here concerning your issue ( post 19 )

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8397&page=2

tunk
08-29-2007, 04:44 AM
ha!...yeppers... if i disable AVG I can start up Bioshock:confused:

I refuse to disable my anti-virus program in order to play a game...hopefully AVG fixes the prob with their 9 30 am (CST) update and/or 2k games fixes it!

...stay tuned

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 04:52 AM
ha!...yeppers... if i disable AVG I can start up Bioshock:confused:

I refuse to disable my anti-virus program in order to play a game...hopefully AVG fixes the prob with their 9 30 am (CST) update and/or 2k games fixes it!

...stay tuned

Tunk why do refuse to disable you AV software? It is perfectly safe to do so as long as you have a firwall program running blocking the internet (Like ZoneAlarm). Or if you have a router just disconnect it from your PC while you play or tell it to block the internet. Many games will crash and fail to run with an AV active because it is scanning files as the game tries to use them casuing an error.
Trust me on this , My AV is off 90% of the time I have had no viruses (touch wood) even when connected to the Internet. If you don't feel as comfortable as me , with the net on , just do as I suggested and you will get better performance and stability.

heatsinked
08-29-2007, 05:01 AM
Perhaps the simple fact that you shouldn’t HAVE to...

"Many games will crash and fail to run with an AV active because it is scanning files as the game tries to use them casuing an error."

Oh please. I have played many major releases over the years and have used various anti-virus packages during that time. Not ONCE has ANY game failed to run or has crashed due to an active anti-virus process.

It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to disable or uninstall important software in order to get a single game to function correctly.

But your right, at least you have a firewall and / or router as a last line of defence. Or at least, you SHOULD have one.

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 05:05 AM
Perhaps the simple fact that you shouldn’t HAVE to...

"Many games will crash and fail to run with an AV active because it is scanning files as the game tries to use them casuing an error."

Oh please. I have played many major releases over the years and have used various anti-virus packages during that time. Not ONCE has ANY game failed to run or has crashed due to an active anti-virus process.

It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to disable or uninstall important software in order to get a single game to function correctly.

But your right, at least you have a firewall and / or router as a last line of defence. Or at least, you SHOULD have one.

I can several game of the top of my head that crash with an Norton AV active or AVG. DarkStar One , MOHAA, Vampire Masquerade , Titan Quest , Fahrenheit. Its not the games that cause the problem but the way some AV scanners work with heuristics can make it think files are potential viruses and deny access to them or delete them.

ElgarL
08-29-2007, 05:10 AM
Never EVER disable your AV. Even if a software developer tells you to (unless it's the AV writers themselves).

I have played just about every game under the sun in the past ten years. Not one has ever had any problems with any Anti Virus. I've also used just about every AV there is to use too.

AVG does come up with a lot more false positives than others, or perhaps they classify this DRM infested piece of software as a trojan.

HeX
08-29-2007, 05:36 AM
I can several game of the top of my head that crash with an Norton AV active or AVG. DarkStar One , MOHAA, Vampire Masquerade , Titan Quest , Fahrenheit. Its not the games that cause the problem but the way some AV scanners work with heuristics can make it think files are potential viruses and deny access to them or delete them.

Bullpoo.

I've used AVG for years and i've owned and completed:

MOHAA
Vampire Masquerade
Titan Quest (+ Expansion)

Non of those has ever crashed due to AVG.

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 05:43 AM
I myself ran AVG for 2 years , during that time I had the games listed crash due to the AV software. Disabling the AV software while playing stop the crashes. And to those who say "never disable AV" , it is a know fact that AV software can and does cause games to run slow and game instability. I suggest you do some research on the matter or ask in another game forum the same question to see the response from another site.
My current AV software is free and given to me from my ISP provider. It causes many crashes in BF2 and BF2142 and in order to play I again have to disable the AV software. I know its not the game or the PC just the AV, and in 4 years of broadband have never once had a virus while playing a game with my AV off.

ElgarL
08-29-2007, 06:01 AM
Yes AV can cause a game to run slower than normal. If the game is crashing then it's the fault of the game, not the AV. NEVER disable your AV.

I'm a software programmer myself, and before that I used to be a hardware engineer (component level design and repair).

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 06:11 AM
Well from a programmers perspective , please explain why you should never disable AV and why it supposedly so disastrous to do so ? And while your there explain how a virus can get through a blocked/disabled internet if nothing on the system is infected in the first place ? Bold all encompasing statements aside, there is no logical reason to never disable AV especialy as some AV software can corrupt game patches ( As seen with CoH, which I might add a mod on the forum told me it was the AV ), and especially badly coded AV software has been seen to be virtually useless for playing any game acceptably.

raefree
08-29-2007, 06:12 AM
AVG antivirus program deleted bioshock.exe file so I had to reinstall game but now I get an error on the part where it patches the game,

error

(The Bioshock patch File has an invalid Signature)

please advise what to do.
Thankyou

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 06:14 AM
AVG antivirus program deleted bioshock.exe file so I had to reinstall game but now I get an error on the part where it patches the game,

error

(The Bioshock patch File has an invalid Signature)

please advise what to do.
Thankyou

Check this link here, and read post 19 and also read page 3 of the thread.

Useful Links and Possible Solutions Thread (unofficial) (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8397&page=2)

ElgarL
08-29-2007, 06:28 AM
The reason you should NEVER disable your AV, is because you'd not be protected. Only a fool trusts others with their computers.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NEW/is_2001_Dec_3/ai_80510819

That is an old one, but there have been many cases where officially distributed CD's have been infected with viri before they went to press. Magazine cover CD's had a big problem with this at one time. Also remember that not all CD's on the market are pressed from the same master. It's quite easy to have a percentage of the CD's on sale with a viri while the rest are clean.

AV's are common place on PC's these days and if a program writer can't make their game work within the parameters of those AV's then they don't deserve to be employed.
This current problem with AVG is a simple hiccup. One I believe which has already been fixed with their last update, but even so it's NEVER a good idea to disable your PC's AV protection.

Hadrian
08-29-2007, 06:50 AM
Your basing your argument on old news? As for the CD for magazines it was already established that any discs on a magazine cover that did contain a virus were years ago and it never happens now because they magazines publisher would be liable for any loss of data or personal information if it could be shown the disc was infected from pressing.
In any case I never install software that I get from a magazine, and haven't for a while because its mostly junk that's not needed. There is no need to have protection on 24/7 , that's simple paranoia especially in an enclosed system where no outside influence can get at it (eg no I-net).
I really thought as a programmer you would come up with a more technical and in-depth case for the "always on" camp. But your basis is way off. The majority of infections nowadays are from malicious email and webpages , which are totally irrelevant while gaming. Any others are from infected file transfers ( such as P2P or Torrent) where the user has let in the infection themselves without checking the file.
Again there is no reason to have an AV on while gaming if a firewall is up and running and no data can get to the system.

Fluffy1982
08-29-2007, 07:37 AM
same problem here. avg said theres a virues, i pressed "heal" and bioshock wasn't working any more.

i bought the game on monday because i have holiday this week and wanted something to play with. i WILL NOT shut down my AVG for that game. i think good games are worth for beeing bought and it's the right of every creator to save there product with a copy protection BUT if people which download games illegal have less problems than people which are honest to spend money for a game - something is wrong, isn't it??

damn, might be really better to sell the pc and stay with the mac ... slowely pc games make me more angry than happy ...

ut2k4wikichici
08-29-2007, 07:52 AM
Guys i had a similar problem where AVG was actually blocking the exe from starting.

Workaround.

Uninstall AVG and get real A/V, that been said i am still trying to find a decent A/V

Booze_Hound
08-29-2007, 07:52 AM
Exact same thing happended to me, I think it has something to do with the windows update last night

ut2k4wikichici
08-29-2007, 07:54 AM
God, i hate Starforce, publishers use it and do not even care that people cannot play that ****ing game !

If my copy stops working i am going to take it back to EB and get a real game............. Crysis !

Solo
08-29-2007, 07:55 AM
yeah it's AVG being a bit mad. it happened to me to, just disable avg for now until a new update is released for it, then the installing of bioshock will work again.

{=NSOF=}Sgt-Pope
08-29-2007, 08:05 AM
I myself ran AVG for 2 years , during that time I had the games listed crash due to the AV software. Disabling the AV software while playing stop the crashes. And to those who say "never disable AV" , it is a know fact that AV software can and does cause games to run slow and game instability. I suggest you do some research on the matter or ask in another game forum the same question to see the response from another site.
My current AV software is free and given to me from my ISP provider. It causes many crashes in BF2 and BF2142 and in order to play I again have to disable the AV software. I know its not the game or the PC just the AV, and in 4 years of broadband have never once had a virus while playing a game with my AV off.


lol over 2000 hrs playing bf2 and not once has avg made it crash, i honestly think your clutching at straws saying avg is bad.... its not and it seems to be written alot better than 2k's MALWARE

HeX
08-29-2007, 08:40 AM
Uninstall AVG and get real A/V, that been said i am still trying to find a decent A/V

NOD, works a treat.

Or if you want free, Avast will suffice.

leary
08-29-2007, 08:45 AM
First, the solution of changing AVG to Avast and reinstalling the game WORKS. Having said that I really liked AVG and hope they come up with a fix. Also, for those who say the heck with that and it too much trouble well...thats your decision but take it from me (someone with only dialup access)....imagine the hours and hours I went thru last night to deinstall bothe AVG & Byushock then reinstall Avast & Bioshock (4 hours and 17 minutes)....now thats trouble. Just maybe you might want to reconsidwe your decision.;)

Tech Richard
08-29-2007, 08:48 AM
I think this thread is going round in small meaningless circles. The answer has already been presented several times. Here it is again :

The issue you have had with AVG and the virus warning is covered in the following post :
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8397&page=2
Please view reply #19 for information about this.

Thread closed.