Giving in and Taking Down a Big Daddy

[The Griffin]

when I went into this game, I quickly realized something that may not have been an issue for many people. I had some sympathy for the little sisters, sure, being innocents as they were... but the beings known as the Big Daddies, who would willingly give their life to protect these children, who would valiantly defend them to death, yet who at the same time were among the gentlest beings of rapture, never initiating combat, doing only what they needed to to protect the Little Sisters... these are the creatures for whom I had real sympathy.

So I played, insistent on never taking the life of one of these gentle giants, never harming the loyal Mr. Bubbles, yet knowing in my heart... a time may come where I did not have a choice. That time came in Hephaestus.

I needed four control chips. There were only two dead Big Daddies. Not wanting to believe it, I backtracked through all the levels. Nothing. There was one I knew, inaccessible to me... I could do nothing. Or I could kill two Big Daddies. I sighed, and prepared.

My plan was cold, and rational. I could not afford to waste resources. So I watched, and waited, following their routes... the whole time filled with regret. As he turned the bottom of the steps, I whispered under my breath "Forgive me for what I must do. If there were another way..."

But there wasn't, and the time had come. I fired a trap wire, ducked and fired another, move over and repeated the process again. Standing and backing away, I could see him halfway up the stairs... I pulled out my grenade launcher and dropped two proximity minds at the end of the electric field. Then I stood back and waited, half tempted to close my eyes but knowing if I were going to do this thing - I would watch.

He stepped forward, the shock confusing him and angering him. He tried to push forward again, caught in the deadly field of wires. With one last push, seeing me and knowing it was somehow my fault, he rushed forward, triggering the explosions and falling to the ground.

I did not move the entire. It could not even be considered a fight. This wasn't combat... it was murder. I sighed and stepped forward, reaching into his suite for the chip I needed. I cast one last glance at the lifeless corpse, whose nature I did not yet know, as I stood. Man or machine, he was dead.

I reloaded my weapons. I still had a job to do, and I was still one chip short.

[Death]

I want you to know. You put him out of his misery.

[DonkeyPewPew]

:( :( :( :(

[Nishido]

You do know they're practically mindless zombies right? Killing them, in a way, is there only release from slavery :).

[The Griffin]

As I pulled the final control chip from the corpse, I felt my anger rising. This waste of life... it was senseless. That these creatures had to die... and I knew who's fault it was.

This was Ryan's fault, I told myself. If he had come to fight me like a man... if he had just opened the doors he knew I would eventually be coming through anyway... I wouldn't have had to kill them. I didn't even know before if I wanted to kill Ryan, though it can assured that I hated the man by this point.

As I placed the bomb, though, I knew one thing. Whatever happened next... Ryan would not live through it. All those senseless deaths, all those people killed... not just the Bid Daddy's, but everything... Those people would be avenged.

Ryan was going to pay.

[Nishido]

The other big daddied were probably sad that you didn't kill them and let them finally be free, even if it had to be in death. You should be ashamed of yourself for not freeing the other big daddied. Those poor poor gentle giants.

You evil evil man *sniff*.

[Nishido]

God damnit. Daddies*

This keyboard sucks :P.

[The Griffin]

Damn, I forgot to mention the little girl crying about mister bubbles... Ah well. That was kind of sad too, and was supposed to be mentioned in the second post as I walked away (the first one didn't have a girl with him)

[Death]

I cant wait till he realize what Big Daddys really are.

[Tryptomine]

Ryan was going to pay.


Heh... Indeed.

[The Griffin]

Actually, I was under the impression they were suffering or anything, and they were still people at one point.

Even if they never had any hope of being anything more than loyal guard dogs... I would not enjoy killing a dog that had never harmed me in any way either.

[Jonathan]

Forgive me for finding this quite bizarre behavior.

[The Griffin]

Plus, I found the game exceptionally easy, even on hard, and not harvesting OR rescuing any sisters (even the one from the big daddy I killed) made it a bit more difficult (though still not terribly hard. I have beat it).

[The Griffin]

and I also didn't allow myself to use Vita-Chambers :)

[Death]

Griffith. If they are suffering. Wouldnt it be more pain to not kill them?

[Tryptomine]

I don't find it especially bizarre, really. But don't forget, killing a BD could be considered akin to 'putting them out of their misery.' Not to mention by removing them and saving the Little Sisters, you will be helping the LS's in more ways then you can possibly know yet.

[The Griffin]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I got the (a? I only got one) good ending and saved all the little Sis's and stuff, despite not killing and BDs and saving them :)

[Sander Cohen]

I cant wait till he realize what Big Daddys really are.

Yeeah. No sympathy than - but at least he won't be suicidal :p

[Death]

OMG! SANDY COHEN! Why wont you come back and attack me? Im burning your masterpiece. I killed you once then you came back to life and attacked me when your masterpiece got burnt.

[The Griffin]

I know what they are - They're cyborgs!

Though I am wondering who Ryan used as the "volunteers"

[The Griffin]

NOW I'm upset.

On a second play through, I realized theres a big daddy corpse in the jail cell at the docks and one in the basement of the farmers market.

I didn't have to kill them damn it! I could have beaten the game with a clean conscience!

[enagagedbfam]

when I went into this game, I quickly realized something that may not have been an issue for many people. I had some sympathy for the little sisters, sure, being innocents as they were... but the beings known as the Big Daddies, who would willingly give their life to protect these children, who would valiantly defend them to death, yet who at the same time were among the gentlest beings of rapture, never initiating combat, doing only what they needed to to protect the Little Sisters... these are the creatures for whom I had real sympathy.

So I played, insistent on never taking the life of one of these gentle giants, never harming the loyal Mr. Bubbles, yet knowing in my heart... a time may come where I did not have a choice. That time came in Hephaestus.

I needed four control chips. There were only two dead Big Daddies. Not wanting to believe it, I backtracked through all the levels. Nothing. There was one I knew, inaccessible to me... I could do nothing. Or I could kill two Big Daddies. I sighed, and prepared.

My plan was cold, and rational. I could not afford to waste resources. So I watched, and waited, following their routes... the whole time filled with regret. As he turned the bottom of the steps, I whispered under my breath "Forgive me for what I must do. If there were another way..."

But there wasn't, and the time had come. I fired a trap wire, ducked and fired another, move over and repeated the process again. Standing and backing away, I could see him halfway up the stairs... I pulled out my grenade launcher and dropped two proximity minds at the end of the electric field. Then I stood back and waited, half tempted to close my eyes but knowing if I were going to do this thing - I would watch.

He stepped forward, the shock confusing him and angering him. He tried to push forward again, caught in the deadly field of wires. With one last push, seeing me and knowing it was somehow my fault, he rushed forward, triggering the explosions and falling to the ground.

I did not move the entire. It could not even be considered a fight. This wasn't combat... it was murder. I sighed and stepped forward, reaching into his suite for the chip I needed. I cast one last glance at the lifeless corpse, whose nature I did not yet know, as I stood. Man or machine, he was dead.

I reloaded my weapons. I still had a job to do, and I was still one chip short.

just kill the big daddys and save the sisters

[Sephlock]

You should put the girl out of her misery too. She won't be able to bear the pain of losing her playmate.

[Aden]

Hey it was a good story at least

[applecrow88]

i felt remorse over killin the bd also. The "Please Move Mr. Bubbles PLEEEEAAASSSE" always got to me!


that and i put a piece of lead through Suchong's head for my puppy. Bastard!

[Tryptomine]

I know what they are - They're cyborgs!

Though I am wondering who Ryan used as the "volunteers"

Actually, in the second play-through I noticed a poster looking to "recruit" all "able-bodied men" that hadn't used plasmids. I assume thats where they got their people from (beleive the poster was in a room in the Neptune's Bounty tavern).

[otto989]

lol in "welcome to rapture", there's another big daddy corpse in the area before the medical pavillion entrance...looks like you didnt have to kill any big daddies...

[The Griffin]

I do want to see if anyone can do beat the game without killing and BDs. I'm not sure if you can avoid killing the enraged one in the escort mission, but it might be possible...

I already beat the game without rescuing/harvesting, on hard, without using any vita-chambers, so its not like its an exceptionally difficult concept - I'm just not sure I want to play through a third time (unlocking all the plasmid achievements right now)

Man, it would have been awesome if you could have saved the little sisters AND the big daddies.