S.T.A.L.K.E.R. scrum *spoilers herein* [Archive]

Raveness

04-12-2007, 12:45 AM

I think we should have a STALKER thread for the loners out there who wish to tell stories, trade secrets and just chitchat on happenings within the Zone.

I just got the military documents from the Agroprom research facility, basically had to mill around the sewers until 11pm came around. Ran into some sort of psionically-powered mutated man who pulled my mind right up to him. Plugged him with the rapid-fire AK74U

Getting frustrated at the packing weight. I'm always at around 55-58 kgs, and can't fathom dropping anything, not knowing what's ahead.

I have 5 vodka's, 5 rad hypos, 10 pieces of food, 20 orange medkits, 12 blue military medkits, 15 bandages, 4 artifacts, 7 grenades, 7 energy drinks, a Viper5, a Fort12 extended clip.

Club Heaven

04-12-2007, 03:42 AM

I finished the game a few weeks ago and I only post here to warn you about a potential bug in the main quest. It's a nasty one and it ruined my first attempt to get one of the "true" endings. But luckily I've only seen this happen to a handful of others and it can be easily overcome.
So, a bit later on you will meet up with a certain doctor. If your PDA doesn't update with instructions and a new location after the meeting, you're screwed. The solution presented itself after I replayed the game from that point. So, make sure you save often and in different slots, especially when you get close to main quest meeting points.

A small advice (and spoiler) next, but I suggest you read it. Otherwise you might miss out on what I consider to be the most impressive area in the game: make sure you do everything in the main quest as best as you can. Keep the more important characters alive and do every special mission they offer you. Since my bug prevented me from getting the ending I deserved, I got to a different place in the world and received one of the "false" endings, which had a very cool cinematic by the way. Not as cool as the best ending though, which pays a little hommage to the Stalker movie. The big problem is, none but the best possible ending will allow you to explore around the nuclear power plant. Every other storyline will end inside it.

You do get to see the Chernobyl map no matter how you've played, and it WILL cause your jaw drop to the floor, well at least if you have a powerful PC. It is THAT impressive, actually for me it was the most impressive level I've ever seen in a videogame. Very hard though. And question of taste or not, someone who doesn't feel the electricity in the air when running around there is either dead or a complete moron.
Now, there's practically 3 parts of the area. The one I mentioned above which everyone gets to see, the interior(s) and the huge main area where you explore around the power plant like I'm sure you've seen in the countless trailers. Getting there ain't hard if you experiment a bit and it will extend gameplay time with at least 2 more intense hours in a breathtaking setting.
I'm not gonna say anything more about it unless you want me to. Good luck.

Oh, and feel free to ask about other things, I might be able to offer valuable help. I played as a loner too, so...

EDIT: the game ran fine on my system, no crashes ever, only a few minor hiccups now and then. I had all settings on high-max in 1280x960 resolution.

v.dog

04-12-2007, 08:08 AM

I'm not that much further than Raveness (I've got to go see Boar about a key) and I'm in the same boat weight wise, except mine is more ammo than health (the illustrated difference between men and women:)). I had over 1000 rounds for the pistol, about 700 for the AKm, and 250 for the shotgun. I dropped half of my pistol rounds to make weight for other items and nearly crashed the game.

I've found one thing just about made me tear out my hair: I finally got the money to get a decent suit (30000Ru) - and had to sell most of my stuff to get there. I buy one and then turn around and ask for a job. I'm ready for it.
It turns out I hadn't completed picking up my reward, so I do that.

The reward includes that very suit.

But it gets better. I've struggled since the start of the game to stay alive. Couldn't take down more than one in the open without dying. I probably spent more time watching the loading screen than playing the game. I got stuck at the psionic mutant in the sewers, and while researching how to get past him (the easy way: run) I discovered that there was a full Stalker suit freely available-

At the beginning of the game! (OK, so that's two things.)

Club Heaven

04-12-2007, 08:25 AM

I used to travel light, of course once in a while I would end up with no ammo in a mutant infested area, and that, as you can imagine SUCKED :o But thinking back it did create a few memorable "now what ?" situations, so I'm glad I played that way. Money-wise I think the game is extremely easy, I had mountains of cash and nothing to do with it. Once I got the green scientist suit I could completely stop caring about selling stuff to vendors.

v.dog

04-12-2007, 08:30 AM

At the risk of spoiling it for myself; where do you get that?

Raveness

04-12-2007, 02:24 PM

Heaven, do you have any suggestion as to what we don't need to carry? You have been through our future exploits, so you must know what is essential and what isn't. I also have a thousand rounds of 9x19mm rounds for the Fort12, but favored the Viper5 over the shotgun & shells, and have limited ammo for it.

I got stuck at the psionic mutant in the sewers, and while researching how to get past him (the easy way: run) I discovered that there was a full Stalker suit freely available-

Found out that blokes name is the Controller. I bolted as well as soon as his psionic pull really freaked me out, then I threw a grenade in and sprinted into his face blazing away with the rapid-fire AKm 74/2, aiming for the head of course ;)

Now I'm planning to head to the Dark Valley before going the bar route past the Dutyers.

Club Heaven

04-13-2007, 02:37 AM

I only had 2 weapons, some ammo, healthkits and anti-ad. And of course artifacts on my belt. You can easily resupply when fighting humans, so why play like a pack mule all the time ? Only get lots of ammo when going inside a bunker. There you don't necessarily need speed and there's usually lots of fighting. I woke up with 0 bullets at one time deep inside a mutant infested facility and boy it was exciting. :D And there's always a solution, even if you have to run like a coward. So, don't worry so much and get rid of everything you won't use in the near future. And stop thinking so far ahead cause the game will become your second job.

Raveness

04-13-2007, 04:56 AM

Here is what I currently carry (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9186/stalkerbar1xy7.jpg). As you can see, I'm borderline overburdened, and can only imagine tossing half the bandages, half the red medkits, a couple of the blue medkits, and maybe dropping down to 5 pieces of food. That would reduce my load by 7 kg's, but I'd still be almost 3 over the safe limit. What to do, what to do......

And what's with random loners still telling me about the guys down south in the Dark Valley having a cool gun to buy? I already pwnd those bastards after they ripped me off. They didn't even have any good guns on their corpses :rolleyes:

My husband has the gall to ask me what I was going to do as I stood dumbstruck after the guy runs into his barn with my 800 rubles. What else can I do, but keep my reputation intact.

"I'm gonna kill them all, Sir"

Club Heaven

04-13-2007, 05:25 AM

You can safely drop about 400 of the 1133 ammo. I also suggest getting rid of the pistol and it's bullets. It won't make any difference against tougher enemies. And try to use 5 artifacts, there's plenty everywhere and some of them are VERY useful. But maybe you haven't found the best ones yet. Sadly, I can't identify them anymore based only upon their looks so, sorry. But try to use the ones that give you a lot of health points. I think the best one has a 400% bonus.
And about those loners who took your 800r, I killed them too but later I realised it was one of the situations taken into account when determining what ending you get. :)
If you think about joining Duty or Freedom, I can't help there. I played as a loner all the way through because I read some rumors on the official forums that there might be bugs in one of the two's questline.

And sorry that I take so much time to reply but my bosses are circling above my head and I have to pretend I'm working when they're closeby.

Oh, had any really scary moments yet ? If yes, I'll tell you about mine too, but until then I'll pretend I'm all brave and strong. :D

Club Heaven

04-13-2007, 05:35 AM

At the risk of spoiling it for myself; where do you get that?

I think you buy it from the scientist in Dark Valley. Or he gives it to you after completing a major quest.

v.dog

04-13-2007, 06:14 AM

How do you get in there? I tried going in by heading south from the checkpoint that leads to the bar, but the raditaion's too high.

Oh, and I found a soul artifact. I kept heading north through the Garbage(?) where the junked vehicles are, and through a bandit camp. 600+ health. Sweet. :)

Club Heaven

04-13-2007, 06:25 AM

Never found that artifact myself.
To get into the Dark Valley you have to run through the radiated area and use a few anti-rad syringes till you get to the loading zone. When I first did this I woke up dead at the Dark Valley entrance, but after loading the autosave I appeared in one piece. A word of advice: save into a new slot before attempting the scientist escort mission, it's quite difficult.

Raveness

04-13-2007, 03:19 PM

I'll trim down on the AKm ammunition, but I feel I should keep the pistol and it's ammo. I tend to use the sidearms about a third of the time, taking out easier foes and stupid beasts.

I lost a MeatChunk artifact that I was equipped with when I accepted the mission with its namesake. There are several located in the Agroprom facility level, so I'll head back. I may try the Garbage for the artifact vdog mentions.

One point that scared me was going into the abandoned Bandit building located in the eastern area of the Dark Valley. MY PDA indicator was flashing 1 contact in range, so I went into the room the blip was in, but instead found it had bodies piled up that I hadn't killed. Then I hear a roar, turn around and notice a Poltergeist coming for me. Son of a ***** laid a trap!

Club Heaven

04-13-2007, 04:50 PM

I saw a 20 min gameplay video of a guy playing through the Agroprom level, two days before I got there myself. I knew there would be bloodsuckers around and I remembered the room where he first encountered them. Now I was low on ammo and had a pretty weak weapon in a bad condition. And I was stressed out of course by the whole mood of the place. I was particularly careful and moving slowly towards the place where I thought the bastards would be. Now as we all know the enemies move around a lot more than in your standard shooter, so I hid in what seemed like an unaccessible place to reload and make some room in my inventory before I engage them. I look around, sit down and I get clawed out of nowhere by these horrible freaks that uncloack all around me. I got a scare that almost made me physically ill. :(

Club Heaven

04-14-2007, 05:43 AM

Just curious, you play with the latest patch or without ? And have you tried the game before and after ?

SPDeath

04-14-2007, 07:16 AM

Stalkers great, but to be honest i'd keep as much ammo as ya can. I found that the zombified stalkers dont give a **** about shots to the head. And that is the last place you want to run out of ammo, take it from me :( .

Im currently stuck on the mission where you attack that freedom base with like 10 duty soldiers, the reason im stuck is because within minutes all my teamates are dead, and im fending off 15 freedom soldiers.

@club haven. I got the lastest patch, and for some reason you seem to get better items, for example the trader at the start had a merc suit and a submachinegun (you know the UMP lookin one). before the patch he only seemed to have ammo and food/health.

Tellurian

04-14-2007, 07:28 AM

What the traders offer you seems to be determined randomly, or it could be that they offer you much better stuff immediatly after you finished a mission for them.

Me I got a little fed up with the game. I just made my first scoop into the Red Forest area and, well, I dunno, admitably I packed the wrong rifle, after shelling out 40000 for that fancy sniper thing from the freedom arms guy, which fires 7.62 bullets, which are nowhere to be found in game, and thus I got stuck in the Red Forest which is nastily infested by mutants and Monoliths Stalkers without the amount of ammo I'd need...
I'll probably pick the game up some other time, but for now I've had enough out of it. Wasted most of the easter vacation on it.
Stalker's easily the best game I've played in a very long time. It's got its flaws allright, but they don't really matter much after you've got sucked in.

SPDeath

04-14-2007, 07:46 AM

What the traders offer you seems to be determined randomly, or it could be that they offer you much better stuff immediatly after you finished a mission for them.

You could be right about the randomness but he offered me the good equipment from the start.

PS. what is up with people saying this game has rubbish graphics :confused:?

Tellurian

04-14-2007, 09:05 AM

PS. what is up with people saying this game has rubbish graphics :confused:?

Graphic *****s? I dunno I used to be one too, but Stalker looks very nice in my book. Maybe I'm not playing "real" next gen stuff enough to "see" it.

Admitted, the character models and animations aren't the best there is.
Some textures are a bit on the low res side.
But in the overall impression, the game looks pretty stunning. Especially when lighting comes into play.

It's a given that the FEAR engine looks better (for example...), but I don't really want to see that one rendering acres of levels.
As for the Unreal 3 engine, well, that IS next gen stuff, but given that the Stalker engine is like 3-4 years old now, it compares rather well.

SPDeath

04-14-2007, 11:10 AM

Admitted, the character models and animations aren't the best there is.
Some textures are a bit on the low res side.
But in the overall impression, the game looks pretty stunning. Especially when lighting comes into play.

Yeah the lighting is mighty awesome.

Also, why does this game keep giving me like three new guns at once, im like "ooooh enfield, but wait what's this, LM-300ML Assault Rifle sweet, awww hell which one do i keep?". And so i spend a few agonsisng minutes weighing out the options. Until i decide i prefer the enfield.

Then again maybe i shouldnt be making such a fuss over weaponry :o

Adabiviak

04-14-2007, 03:36 PM

I've got a bug that won't let the quicksaves work in Pripyat nor will it allow me to enter Chernobyl (without crashing). I can go in, get some good ammo/weapons, and get out, but if I die, I have to start over at the last autosave when exiting the Red Forest. So, instead of starting the game completely over yet, I've been playing lots of side missions. I've got a collection of almost every weapon, artifact, armor, etc., and thousands of rounds of whatever ammo you want (except pistols - a waste if you ask me). I don't remember how much money I've accumulated, but if I need a new armor, for example, I'll just go buy a new exoskeleton from Freedom and toss it when it's too torn up.

So one day I come back to the bar after a mission and Duty has turned on me. I can still get in and out (these Duty guys are green) but if the guards at the actual entrance to the Duty headquarters see me, they sound a general alarm and I have to lay low (or waste them). Sucks, because they sold some good things and I'm pretty sure I wasted their trader in a skirmish. How do I get back in their good graces?

Questions for the lot:
Where can I find ammo for the Gauss weapons?
Is it possible to get a Bullpup grenade launcher after you've turned it in to Duty?
Where can I find armor piercing ammo for the real sniper rifles?
Seriously, what's the difference between the shotgun ammo (standard, slugs, and darts)?
There are a number of weapons I have yet to see - are they only found in cadavers in Chernobyl or have I missed them in previous levels? I'm thinking of some of the higher-end shotguns and the FM-?? assault rifle, for example.
What artifacts do you actually use on your person? What's your preferred weapon? (I keep five Crystals and five Moonlights on my person for most forays, and will use five Koboloks when taking on dog packs). The Vintar BC is my weapon of choice for serious missions.

SPDeath

04-14-2007, 08:26 PM

Questions for the lot:
Where can I find ammo for the Gauss weapons?
Is it possible to get a Bullpup grenade launcher after you've turned it in to Duty?
Where can I find armor piercing ammo for the real sniper rifles?
Seriously, what's the difference between the shotgun ammo (standard, slugs, and darts)?
There are a number of weapons I have yet to see - are they only found in cadavers in Chernobyl or have I missed them in previous levels? I'm thinking of some of the higher-end shotguns and the FM-?? assault rifle, for example.
What artifacts do you actually use on your person? What's your preferred weapon? (I keep five Crystals and five Moonlights on my person for most forays, and will use five Koboloks when taking on dog packs). The Vintar BC is my weapon of choice for serious missions.

To be honest i havent got far enough into the game to answer most of your questions (game crashes fairly often for me). However as for artifacts I tend to get an overall balance. If i get an artifact that reduces bleeding alot but makes something else worse i try to find an artifact that cancels out the negative, so there is only a positive effect.

Adabiviak

04-15-2007, 07:28 AM

So this one time I come back to town and Duty is neutral - I'm down for getting back into their good graces so I walk in and get a job from the main guy. When I return after completing the mission, they're mad again and show red on my scope. Ding dongs.

Do you see large packs of dogs sometimes? Like maybe 20 at once? So fun to huck grenades at them.

SPDeath

04-15-2007, 07:47 AM

Do you see large packs of dogs sometimes? Like maybe 20 at once? So fun to huck grenades at them.

Yes, you quite often find huge packs of dogs, chewing on bodies and such. I personally like to go mono en mono, so I pull out my knife, yell " { INSERT GENERIC ONE LINER HERE }" and charge. Unless the battle goes sour, in which case i drop a grenade and leg it :D .

Tellurian

04-15-2007, 01:45 PM

The respawn rates are probably the biggest problem of this game.
Of course it shouldn't be possible to wipe an area clean of bogies forever, but at least a few days should pass before the next 20+ bandits / random unfriendly stalkers / zombies / snorks / whatever just re-appear.
The rail entrance to the trainyard in garbage was littered with bodies cause there were CONSTANTLY bandits trying to get in. For, like, DAYS on. They get killed, while the next group has already spawned...
Of course they're a good source for low-end weapons and ammo and ****, but still. After awhile it just plainly sucks.

Raveness

04-15-2007, 02:57 PM

I actually like the fairly constant spawning of new groups of bandits or mercs. I'll agree that within the context of the game world, and the time-framing it uses it's entirely unrealistic, but it's one of those aspects that I'd say "to hell with realism". I'd rather have the heightened tension of being constantly on guard in the neutral areas. I don't find that it happens too often to be a detriment, and there's always the choice to book it if you just don't want to deal with the bastards.

Of course those are my thoughts so far.....I've only gotten to Lake Yantar so far, and after dealing with zombies for the first time, I sincerely hope they do not respawn at the same rate :(

SPDeath

04-15-2007, 03:01 PM

Of course those are my thoughts so far.....I've only gotten to Lake Yantar so far, and after dealing with zombies for the first time, I sincerely hope they do not respawn at the same rate :(

I dont think the zombies respawn that quickly (thank god for small favours), but has anyone else noticed that the zombies seem to have better accuracy than some of the humans :p .

Raveness

04-15-2007, 11:38 PM

I eventually got into a groove taking out those zombified bastards; headshots do more damage against them. Worse was those damnable snorks, either there crouched so low as to make them hard to hit, or they're leaping at you with a vicious claw swipe. Oh and buy the Tundra gun, best yet ;)

I think I'm starting to encounter a divergence in the game's plot. I completed the fun romp through X16 and shut off the Psi projector, and after talking with the scientists at their bunker, I received this mission to talk to someone named "Guide". Then he told me to go back to X18 to see someone named "Doctor".

Dammit where's Club Heaven when we need him :confused:

Club Heaven

04-16-2007, 02:31 AM

He isolates himself from the world on weekends but reappeares when he's at work.
The doctor mission is part of the main quest, in fact now is where things really pick up. You're not very far from the end(s) so there'll be some nice areas waiting for you :) And remember what I said in my first post about that bug. Make sure your PDA gets updated after you meet this guy, otherwise something got messed up and you gotta reload. Let me know if you want some details on whatever, I'll be around for the next 7 hours.

SPDeath

04-16-2007, 08:01 AM

Worse was those damnable snorks

Don't get me started on those snorks :mad: , I'm the kind of person who prefers accuracy over spray and pray, so I tend to keep my guns on single shot by habit. When those snorks come a leapin' I try to spray em to no avail :(

SPDeath

04-16-2007, 02:07 PM

I'm kind of stuck in prypiat, I know where to go and what to do, but all the duty soldiers got stuck in the garage and i keep getting tagged by snipers and stuff. I'm gonna give it a rest and see how I fare when i next play.

Club Heaven

04-16-2007, 02:54 PM

They aren't stuck, they're meant to stop there. You should speak to their commander, usually he calls for you. Prypiat is a difficult map, you definitely need a scoped weapon and a lot of patience. Of course there's the option of running form cover to cover until you reach the entrance to the power plant area. And then it gets even harder. Make sure you save often and play alone with the lights turned off :) It's gonna be one helluva spectacle.
Hope you guys get "true" endings. Let me know how it worked out.

SPDeath

04-16-2007, 04:38 PM

Ok, thanks i'll go talk to him. Im not gonna play now, college has reminded how tiring work is :p

Raveness

04-16-2007, 05:37 PM

Pripyat, also spelled Pripet, Pripiat, Prypiat, Prypyat :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pripyat

Thanks for the heads up on that level. I haven't acquired a true sniper rifle yet, but have been gathering SP-5 & SP-6 rounds with effectiveness at sniper range.

I actually spent some time getting a simple mod done, changing the regular guitar tune that Loners play to "Stuck in the Middle with You (http://plantz.stinpen.com/forpetessake/mp3s/Stuck%20In%20The%20Middle.mp3)" by Stealers Wheel. I'll probably play this game like 10 times just to experience all the endings, and flat out enjoy the game till death or new blockbuster do us part. Easily my best game of this year so far :)

SPDeath

04-16-2007, 05:45 PM

I actually spent some time getting a simple mod done, changing the regular guitar tune that Loners play to "Stuck in the Middle with you" by Stealers Wheel.

Could you get him to play "God gave rock and roll to you" by KISS :D
Or do you think that would be out of place :p .

Raveness

04-16-2007, 06:09 PM

Could you get him to play "God gave rock and roll to you" by KISS :D
Or do you think that would be out of place :p .
My first thought went to putting in some AC/DC, like Razor's Edge or something, but hearing a full heavy-metal band w/ the screeching high-pitched voice of Brian Johnson done in-game by quiet Ukranians seemed kinda out of place :D

If you try the link in my last post, you'll see the song fits with the equipment, and the lyrics tell of similar circumstances and feelings some STALKER's might have. They would just need to get their mates to join in, and fake an American accent ;)

v.dog

04-16-2007, 06:18 PM

I'd go for R.E.M's 'The end of the world as we know it'. That or Weird Al's 'Christmas at ground zero'. :D

^ilovebioshock!

04-16-2007, 06:27 PM

I'd go for R.E.M's 'The end of the world as we know it'. That or Weird Al's 'Christmas at ground zero'. :D

I wanna hear Weird Al's Yoda on a guitar in a radiation infested world:D

SPDeath

04-16-2007, 07:07 PM

What about something from Neil Cicierega.

"you're out to get me, gonna scratch out my eyes, with that atomic copper claw, ooh what a suprise. Go ahead take a shred, kill me dead, with that atomic copper claw, yeah thats what i said"

Not really in with the mood of the game, I just thought it would be funny to hear if dogs are attacking :D .

Adabiviak

04-17-2007, 12:41 AM

Don't get me started on those snorks :mad: , I'm the kind of person who prefers accuracy over spray and pray, so I tend to keep my guns on single shot by habit. When those snorks come a leapin' I try to spray em to no avail :(Snorks are probably my favorite. Load up your favorite shotgun and get them to leap at you. You have to nail them at basically point blank (and naturally, head shots are better), but it's quite satisfying to drop them from out of the air, especially when you consider that if you blow it, you're going to eat his attack and that single shots usually don't drop them.

Odd thing, maybe someone can explain? The 'shot' rounds seem to have more damage than the slug or dart rounds. The slug and dart rounds apparently have a more effective range, but that's what rifles are for, especially when you consider how inaccurate shotguns seem to be at a distance. I don't recall seeing a damage/accuracy value on the ammo.

Club Heaven

04-17-2007, 03:11 AM

Has any of you seen the movie ? It's one of my favourites and I highly recommend it. I'll warn you though that it's slow and the payoff might not be what you expect. Many hate it, but it's generally because they can't connect with the mood and they can always watch something cooler and sexier instead... but I'll refrain from preaching, at least until I find that someone else has seen it.

v.dog

04-17-2007, 05:19 AM

I use the shotgun a lot on the dogs, boars and the like. It takes them down easy, unless there's a huge pack. As for the Snorks, I wait for them to leap, sidestep, and then nail them as they get their bearings. It's the same trick I use on the headcrabs in HL.

My favourite weapon is an Okaban w/ scope. It's a good all round assault rifle and a pretty good sniper rifle, as well. Bandits drop from one headshot, most of the others, two. The Trs 301 is a brilliant rifle, but it's not as versatile. So I've got one of each, and the shotgun from the portable science lab. Best of all, with 300 rounds for each, I'm only two kilos over. :)

SPDeath

04-17-2007, 07:38 AM

Does anyone else notice the broken English interspersed throughout the game? "What are you deaf? What are you here?" LOL I can't tell if it's intentional or not, but it lends to the authentic Ukranian atmosphere.

If your referring to that man in the duty bar, on my version he says "What are you deaf?, I said come in here" or something like that.

SPDeath

04-17-2007, 05:31 PM

Hmmm... can't remember what guns i've got. I think one of them is a G36K or it looks like that anyway. I got a sniper, and an AS (Avtomat Spetsialnij). I really wanna find a VSS Vintorez as its one of my favourite guns, back from my raven shield days, just looks/sounds awesome :p .

v.dog

04-17-2007, 11:48 PM

Quick Q: where's the secret tunnel out of X16?

Adabiviak

04-18-2007, 01:41 AM

Heh, that's a pain to find. Note: this is definitely a spoiler if you want to find it yourself.

At the end of the tunnel where you finally got your quarry, go into the caged in area to the right towards the back. The little square hole in the center of this one has a gap you can drop out of.

edit - regarding the shotguns, the SPAS14 is really well done in my opinion. It's just fun to shoot even though it's technically a worse shotgun than, say, the Chaser 13, it's way more fun to use. I'm actually thinking that it may be my fave from any FPS when you consider the look, feel, reload animation, sound, etc. (The shotty from HL2 is pretty close, mainly because you can use both barrels at once).

Raveness

04-18-2007, 01:46 AM

Quick Q: where's the secret tunnel out of X16?

Should be a ladder, or a crack in a large pipe, near where the Controller was. That leads down into the sewers where there is lotsa zombies. You'll then emerge in the pond where the snorks hang out, just to the west of the scientists bunker.

Some advice for newbies like me: pick up a sniper rifle (preferably Vintar BC) before venturing into the Red Forest. The Monolith STALKER's guarding the Brain Scorcher have an abundance of snipers, plus there assault rifle grunts are keen shots with their Obokan's & AKM's.

....and don't **** your pants if you see phantoms popping up behind you. Brown stains on an upholstered chair are hard to get out.

SPDeath

04-18-2007, 07:06 AM

Brown stains on an upholstered chair are hard to get out.
Are you speaking from personall experience :D .

But yes, definitely take a sniper rifle with you. It's good for getting those pesky monolith people out of hard to reach places.Oh and take alot of anti-rad becasue there seems to be loads of pockets of high radiation.

Raveness

04-18-2007, 12:03 PM

I had completely ran out of rad hypo's early on in that level, and it seems every frickin vehicle is irradiated, so that made it all that much harder to find effective cover against an immediately tougher enemy group.

The Red Forest was certainly a difficulty wake-up call compared to the previous levels; not only because of the hardass Monolith faction, but half the level is under psi bombardment and has those respawning phantoms you have to shoot. I love it all, though, really brings the gameplay to a heightened sense of impending doom and accelerated anxiety.

Adabiviak

04-18-2007, 10:27 PM

Do you have any Crystal artifacts? Moonlight? Load a Moonlight or two (depending on your weight) and make the rest Crystals. You can sprint past irradiated cars and even if you pick up some radiation, it'll quickly dissipate. Loading five Crystals will let you endure all but the worst irradiated areas for a time. The Freedom leader gives them to me regularly for some of the chores I do for him (so it should work for you), but I'm not sure if the reward system is randomized? It sure doesn't seem that way, but it might be different from game to game.

Adabiviak

04-22-2007, 07:44 PM

Man, those guys did their research! I thought this was just something they made up. Did you see the 'lava' flows coming from the large valves?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pictureofchernobyllavaflow.jpg

SPDeath

04-22-2007, 07:46 PM

Awwww, I carried to much money and got the greedy bastard ending:( .
Ah well time for a new game i guess.

Adabiviak

04-22-2007, 09:18 PM

No, seriously, we were just looking at photos and movies of the Chernobyl meltdown and the game is very accurate in it's description of the (ruined) plant layout and the local town (Pripyat). The fuel-lava flows, the biological shield, the cabling in the corridors, even the debris is seriously exactly what is in these pictures.

Silent Film

04-23-2007, 07:19 AM

I was looking at the CPP on Google Maps and its virtually identical to the map that comes with the game. Eerily so.

Still haven't played the game - I'm waiting on the Vista patch :(

v.dog

04-25-2007, 09:47 PM

From that say anything you want thread:Oh dear, I found prypiat and chernobyl alot harder than X10.But now I have armour, ammo, and better guns. I found three black Sci suits in a safe in a house by the train tracks in the Merc infested area on the way to Krukov's base.http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~vdog/scratch/stalkersuits.jpg

Adabiviak

04-26-2007, 03:08 AM

That's the house with the insane radiation, no?

v.dog

04-26-2007, 08:37 AM

I stuck with the EVA suit to the end. It's 80% radiation protection is what you want inside the core. :)

I bet the game, and got the 'I want to be rich' ending. I had almost 70 000 Ru and nothing to spend it on.

Speaking of which-
All seven STALKER endings:
Wish Granter:
If your reputation is above 1000 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8042894143102731016)
If your money is above 50 000Ru (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5124234774423517289)
If Lukash (Freedom) and Voronin (Duty) are dead (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5604030143159105079)
If your reputation is below -1000 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1778315672999184639)
If none of the above apply (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2747756204380612215)
C-Consciousness:
If you don't join (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1201975400575475458)
If you do (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2476512680174327846)

I never heard of the C-Consciousness until now. Where is it? Why would you go there?

Bioshock_FTW!

04-26-2007, 06:34 PM

Just found this on Digg, thought the STALKER fans might appreciate it:

http://uncommonpictures.blogspot.com/2007/04/chernobyl-21-years-later.html

SPDeath

04-26-2007, 06:53 PM

You good sir, have done a great service to us stalker fans. I can only now understand the full scope of research they must have done for this game.

v.dog

04-26-2007, 09:32 PM

Thanks for that. :)
Now I've got to go upgrade my rig so I can play it again with the graphics on high. :(

v.dog

04-27-2007, 07:32 AM

A double post, I know (Senator Hatesink is calling me to the dark side), but I thought it would be cool to debrief and share how we played, what artifacts and weapons we used, our favourite/least favourite bits, and what we though of Stalker overall.

Rank: Expert
Group: Loner
Reputation: Excellent
Ranking: 1333 (killed 870 stalkers, 184 mutants, 0 artifacts (huh?) 279 quests (I don't think it's a point per quest))
Cash: 69578Ru

I didn't do too well in the open, my main tatics were to either find cover and wait for them to come to me (there's a mass grave in one of the prefabs at Agroprom) snipe, or run (when the timer started for the blowout, I simply got past everybody by running from cover to cover- if they want to stay outside and die, that's fine by me. I'm outta' here).

Artifacts I kept were Slug, Mama's Beads, Soul, Slime (if I had paid more attention I wouldn't have used both Slime and Slug), and Flash. Soul was the best find, it kept the number of kits I needed down.

My favourite weapon overall was a Sniper Obokan, which I found on a dead loner near the Bar. Similar to the Obokan with scope, but much higher accuracy. A good alround assault rifle, and a pretty good sniper rifle too.
The VLA sniper rifle was a close second; good range and power, but ammo was scarce.

Lows: Being shot in the back in X10, when I had cleared out the rooms behind me, and there was no other way in.
Saving a game, dying, re-loading, finding enemies in front of me who weren't there when I saved, dying again.
I sold almost everything I had to buy a Stalker suit. I checked my tasks to discover I hadn't picked up my reward for a quest, and when I got it- it was a Stalker suit (this was in the Bar in the space of about 30 seconds).

Highs: watching an enemy seek cover only to die in an anomaly. Finding Soul early in the game. Finding three black EVA suits near the Merc headquaters. Still having two of them there before going into Pripyat and Chernobyl.

Overall; Apart from the bugs, the cheating (see lows), and the anal level of realism (I staved to death, again. I can't move because I'm too heavy, and now I'm a sitting du- dead. Again. Two shots to the head- well, you get the idea), I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was like being in a living, breathing world, and it felt like it didn't revolve around me, if I wasn't there, it carried on regardless.
And as a tour of the Ukraine, it was wonderful. That alone was worth the $70.
When I get my Rig upgraded, I'll play it again on easy so I can spend more time exploring the Zone in all its decrepit splendor.

Adabiviak

04-27-2007, 01:05 PM

Your favorite weapon was the Sniper Obokan? Did you get the Vintar BC, the FT200M, the GP37 or at least the TSR301? What did you like about the Sniper Obokan? I notice you kept Flash on your person. Did you come across a Moonlight? Where did you find the Mama's Beads?

SPDeath

04-27-2007, 01:07 PM

I quite liked the Lee Enfield, prehaps that's because I'm a Brit though :D

Raveness

04-27-2007, 05:31 PM

Rank: Expert
Group: Loner
Reputation: Excellent
Ranking: 2196 (killed 1398 stalkers, 375 mutants, 0 artifacts, 423 quests)
Cash: over 80,000 Ru

I think the quest points may be a count of every single green target point in the PDA, which includes returning to received your reward. Even so, the number seems high. Will check…..

Artifacts I used were Slug, Mama's Beads, Soul, Moonlight (higher level Flash). I think I used two Slugs to keep the bleeding way down. Soul was a given needed artifact for later portions of combat, and Moonlight helped me keep running in tight situations even when overburdened.

My favorite weapons were the TRs301, for its lightweight, moddability and power. The Vintar BC fully automatic sniper rifle was all I used in battling the Monolith, and it’s all I needed. Best weapon in the game until getting the FTM2000 deep in Chernobyl, though its clip size left a lot to be desired.

I usually saved my money exclusively to shore up my ammo and by new suits. It’s pretty hilarious in the game when you can walk two feet from a STALKER, pick up a gravi artifact lying around, and sell it to him for over a thousand.

My tactic was usually finding cover after detecting blips and seeing the red dots, lobbing an F1 grenade their way, then let them come to me to see where it came from, kind of a “WTF was that” style of ambush. I wish the game came with an underhand roll for grenades, I kept lobbing a few too far over a group of bandits. Tis the only thing missing in the great control feeling in the FPS.

EDIT: Checked my PDA completed quests tab, I counted 141 green dots for completion of quest particulars. Sounds like they multiply it by 3 to give you the points for quests.

v.dog

04-27-2007, 08:14 PM

Where does Moonlight hide?Your favorite weapon was the Sniper Obokan? Did you get the Vintar BC, the FT200M, the GP37 or at least the TSR301? What did you like about the Sniper Obokan? I notice you kept Flash on your person. Did you come across a Moonlight? Where did you find the Mama's Beads?Yes. I got the TSR, yes. Its versatility- with the way I played I would always try to find cover and snipe if I could, and run and gun If I couldn't- it worked well in both roles, plus I had ammo out the wazzo for it. No. On the side of the road, somewhere.

Adabiviak

04-27-2007, 10:42 PM

I found quite few of the Moonlights in the underground section at the Agroprom Research center and also in the tunnel with all the electro anomalies (to the left of the broken bridge when you leave Cordon).

So seriously, now that you've finished the game, what were the rarest artifacts? I've been playing the same campaign since it came out and have found untold numbers of all the artifacts except for Mama's Beads and Night Star (both of which I've only found one). I'm curious if it's a game-defined limit or if there's an inch of the map somewhere that I've missed. Koloboks, Batteries (both types), Springboards, Souls... I find these all the time, but the Mama's Beads and Night Star I've only encountered once.

Did you ever find the armor-piercing version of the sniper rifle ammo? I found a handful of the 'sniper' version of these shells, but never the armor-piercing version.

SPDeath

04-28-2007, 08:43 AM

Where's the ash :D

Adabiviak

05-02-2007, 06:23 PM

...I'll take that as a no. On another note, is it just me, or are the majority of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. walkthroughs/FAQs riddled with errors?

SPDeath

05-02-2007, 06:26 PM

Ahhh! She's done it again. What is it with Raveness and deleting posts?

I did find the AP sniper rounds to answer your question. Not sure about the walkthroughs, never really bother with them.

Raveness

05-02-2007, 06:29 PM

...I'll take that as a no. On another note, is it just me, or are the majority of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. walkthroughs/FAQs riddled with errors?

You asking me or vDog? Are you talking about the Armor piercing 9x39mm SP6 rounds for the VSS Vintorez (Vintar BC), the brown box of bullets with the black stripe instead of yellow for sniper rounds?

Adabiviak

05-02-2007, 10:21 PM

Anyone. There are some bona-fide sniper rifles to be found in the game (namely two, not including the Gauss rifle) that use three different types of ammo. The ammo comes in long, dark green boxes with the same banding to identify the type (no band/plain, black stripe/armor piercing, yellow stripe/sniper). I've found 34 rounds of the plain and 17 of the sniper, 0 of the armor piercing. The 34 I got by milking the snipers in Pripyat. I wonder if the armor piercing variety is obtainable throughout the normal course of a game?

Also! I saw my first pseudogiant outside today. It's only the third one I've seen, hopefully they'll start breeding.

Bioshock_FTW!

05-17-2007, 10:12 AM

Just bringing back this post due to some news I just found regarding STALKER:

http://www.primotechnology.com/news/0507/stalker/stalker-to-get-follow-ups.html

lurchibald

05-17-2007, 11:28 AM

Heaven, do you have any suggestion as to what we don't need to carry? You have been through our future exploits, so you must know what is essential and what isn't. I also have a thousand rounds of 9x19mm rounds for the Fort12, but favored the Viper5 over the shotgun & shells, and have limited ammo for it.

Found out that blokes name is the Controller. I bolted as well as soon as his psionic pull really freaked me out, then I threw a grenade in and sprinted into his face blazing away with the rapid-fire AKm 74/2, aiming for the head of course ;)

Now I'm planning to head to the Dark Valley before going the bar route past the Dutyers.

i was gonna do the same to that mutant but then i thought stuff this , i ran straight up to it and at point blank empty'd my ak into him

lurchibald

05-17-2007, 11:45 AM

One of the best things (for me) to do in this game is to kill pretty much everyone i met, like right at the start, the very beggining of the game i killed the leader of the first camp and took his gun, that really helped, i killed him sneaky-like so the whole camp didnt come after me lol. in this game i didnt really buy anything i just killed the "so-called" expert stalkers that were around and took all of their crap:D

intercision

05-17-2007, 09:05 PM

One of the best things (for me) to do in this game is to kill pretty much everyone i met

If only there were some way to kill everyone in the RAD100 bar ... Oh how I'd love to put that lot out of their misery ... and get them all back for hour upon hour of endlessly repeated dialogue ... black ravens .... black ravens ....

Raveness

05-18-2007, 12:50 AM

"What are you deaf? What are you here?"
"Get out of here, STALKER!" "Get out of here, STALKER!" "Get out of here, STALKER!" "Get out of here, STALKER!" "Get out of here, STALKER!"
Upon entering: "I said come in, don't stand there!"
Upon leaving: "I said come in, don't stand there!"
"Blood Raven.....Don't you respect me?"
"Come here. I always have information worth the trouble" I would like to buy some information "Sorry, I don't have any new information"
"Hello........Hello" "Hello........Hello" "Hello........Hello"

intercision

05-19-2007, 11:13 PM

After getting as deep into the Zone as Pripyat, I travelled all the way back to the first area, the Cordon, armed to the teeth, and sporting my awesome SEVA suit, with an impressive collection of powerful artifacts on my belt ... and the first Stalker I speak to, some rookie, greets me with:

"Seems like you don't know your way around well yet, so I'll warn you as a friend ... "

My response, though non-verbal, was clear. :D

Fennerman

05-19-2007, 11:16 PM

intercision

05-20-2007, 12:11 AM

Oh and then there was that time when I was in the Army Warehouses and I bumped into Bes (you know, the frood from the Garbage with the little moustache and the silenced AK74?) I asked him "Can you tell me about this place?" - but he reponded as though he was still in The Garbage. He LOVES that place. Poor delusional bastard. (or poor delusional badly scripted AI)

lurchibald

05-20-2007, 08:16 AM

Adabiviak

05-20-2007, 04:51 PM

intercision

05-20-2007, 07:06 PM

I agree - each subsequent journey through the zone I become more and more jaded, and you realise just how devestatingly short of all it's promises this game is.

Having said that, I always feel compelled to praise the game for the things that it did get right - the "world design" was amazing. The grass swaying in the wind, leaves blowing around, the sunsets, the storms, the attention to detail in the cities, the underground tunnels, the abandoned labs, it's all freaking amazing.

But I think the things that really leave let the game down are:

- AI - not only would they casually walk into fires and anomalies, but they have all the personality of a tree stump.

- Sound - in general the sound was just sub-standard. Not only the quality of the sounds used (the weapon-draw sound is horrible!), but also the way distant sounds sound far too close. (I won't even mention the repeating dialoge - oops I just did).

- Story - I'm a huge fan of Deus Ex, so complex stories don't scare me, it's just that they need to be well told, and unravel at a compelling pace.

.... I'll stop now. </rant>

whitefroguy

05-21-2007, 11:57 PM

i looked foward for this game but was dissapointed
ah well
i think im going to finish it soon

Raveness

05-22-2007, 02:49 AM

Ha! Super funny. I thought they were supposed to fix the scientist's relentless dialog with the latest patch? The barkeep reminds me of a russian fonz. "Eeyyyyy, Marked One!" Seriously, though, do you think they'll ever work out all the bugs in the single player game? You don't realize what a train wreck this game is until you've been through it a couple times. Note: Train Wrecks can be fun, but not at the end.

Yeah the recent patch fixed all the dialog duplication glitches. Damn I'll miss them. The Barkeep was a nice reminder. He kept remarking how it is great I'm still alive, even if I step out for 5 seconds :confused: Do regular sodomizings occur outside the GAP that I was not informed of?

Adabiviak

05-22-2007, 03:07 AM

lurchibald

05-22-2007, 07:05 AM

Raveness

05-22-2007, 03:44 PM

I suppose this is only slightly on topic (although I was playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. at the time), but my wife stepped on a solfugid in her bare feet in the kitchen. I didn't explain what it was until the next day because she's rather skittish around much less sketchy bugs and I guarantee if I'd done it, I would have run up a chair and screeched. It's only the fourth one I've seen in the wild.

On topic: do you notice different stashes in new games? This is another new round through the game for me and some of the old recurring stashes from previous games have been replaced with ones I've never seen before. Am I not killing the same people? Is it actually randomized? Is this a bug-as-feature?

Off topic: I didn't know what a solfugid was until Googled it. I have arachnophobia to a nth degree, so I can't imagine stepping on a spider barefoot :(

On-topic: There is a fair dose of randomization in the game in regards to stashes, but they should still make sense, meaning the enemies carry weapons ammo and kits that they would depending on who they represent. The new patch also changed things up a bit, so you may not get the same major stashes you were used to in the original.

Adabiviak

05-22-2007, 09:09 PM

I'm down with spiders, but get a close look at that thing's mug. Predator, seriously. And they move FAST which is probably the sketchiest thing about them.

I didn't know that about the re-randomization of the stashes. I certainly found a Night Star way sooner than I would expect to. Has anyone found more than one Mama's Beads ever? Lurchibald, do you have a link to that? I've never seen that movie and it's always a hoot to see what was left out.

intercision

05-22-2007, 09:19 PM

I've found that if I shoot an enemy, search his body, and am not happy with whatever items he's carrying, I can load my game to just before I shot him, shoot him again, search, and find a different bunch of items on the body.

Didn't happen all the time though, and I've not tested this with the latest patch.

lurchibald

05-22-2007, 11:03 PM

v.dog

05-22-2007, 11:34 PM

i just had a look at the 2002 trailer of S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Oblivion lost, now is that actually a game OR is that what Shadow of Chernobyl was originally? cause in the oblivion lost vid he actually drove a car which would have been cool in this one

EDIT: 100th Post WOOOOOOIt's an earlier build of the same game. They changed the title (I'm guessing it was originally a play on Paradise Lost) because people didn't get it and/or it no longer fit with the game's direction. The dropped vehicles because driving into an anomaly at speed was no fun.

Every game develops like that. The Dev team has lots of ideas which they build and test. If people don't get them (eg: Plasmi-Quik), they're no fun (HL2's Hydra), or to resource intensive to do properly, they get cut.

intercision

05-23-2007, 10:12 PM

P.S. in my game of stalker i have (in my belt)

1 soul
2 moonlight
2 mama's beads

I was thinking, artifacts are quite large. Your average Stalker sure would look strange with 5 of those twinkling away on his belt. I'd say there's a good reason they're not rendered on the stalker models .. "look here comes a happy little fairy ... no wait it's a christmas tree ... no it's just a Stalker wearing jewellery ..." heh.

Raveness

05-25-2007, 06:29 PM

I was thinking, artifacts are quite large. Your average Stalker sure would look strange with 5 of those twinkling away on his belt. I'd say there's a good reason they're not rendered on the stalker models .. "look here comes a happy little fairy ... no wait it's a christmas tree ... no it's just a Stalker wearing jewellery ..." heh.

That would have been sweet though, and I heard they intended that in early conceptual builds, but not only did they say it looked goofy. Since anomalies gave off visual cues, it made it a notch easier to shoot enemies, so they dumped it when balancing difficulty.

What I wanted them to include was some comical animations of picking up the artifacts, such as a 'hot-potato' animation when picking up fireball, a 'finger-zap' animation when picking up Moonlight, a 'morocca' animation for Mama's Beads, a 'mentos, the freshmaker' animation for picking up Soul, etc....

Adabiviak

05-25-2007, 09:24 PM

For a hoot, I picked up 1 of each of every type of artifact in the game and threw them into a small room to watch them all light up and bounce around together. Kind of slowed the graphics down, but it was neat nonetheless.

GH Illustrations

05-26-2007, 12:32 PM

intercision

05-27-2007, 08:04 PM

While this is my sort of game and setting, I can't share any stories cos simply I can't save the damn game, crashes straight to desktop everytime I try to quicksave or enter the main menu!

Tried everything, until the 0.3 patch, the game wouldn't even start, crashed to desktop everytime it was loading . . . .

The most buggiest, unfinished game I have ever played . . . .

Shame really . . . .

Wow - sounds like you're definently having more severe problems than most other players. The game is still bug-ridden no matter what fixes and patches you install, but your problems sound more severe than others I've heard. Possibly hardware / driver / software incompatibility issues? Hope you get it sorted out.

I found this site helpful: http://www.tweakguides.com/STALKER_3.html

Nias Wolf

06-24-2007, 11:19 PM

Well, Raveness told me to post here, so here is my list of items in Stalker!

But first, let me tell you that on the main quest I am currently in the last room of X18 (under The Dark Valley) and I need to kill the flying transparent creepy thing.

Weapons (all of which have the little arrow pointing up, meaning they are special):

Fast-shooting Akm 74/2 (with PS0-1 scope)- found it in Strelok's stash under the Agroprom Research Institute. Around 75-85% in terms of health? (I love it). :D

"Tunder" 5.45 (similar to the gun that many Duty soldiers cary around the Bar, but uses 5.45x39 mm rounds, and has a grenade launcher)- found it on a Duty soldier that had been mauled by wild dogs right outside of the Bar... poor guy. Around 80-90% (Yeah, it's called "Tunder").

Fort-15 (experimental)- found it on a soldier when I refused to pay, so killed all of the people under the railroad area in Cordon. It works great, I don't know why it's experimental. 95-100%

Artifacts:
Slug (Bleeding -267%) (Burn -10%)
Fireball (Radiation -20) (Endurance -18)
Soul (Health +600%) (Impact, Rupture, Bullet Proof Cap -10%)- This has saved my life so many times! ;)
Flash (Endurance +73) (Electric Shock -10%) Good for running.

Clothes:
Monolith Suit- Just found it in a locker in X18, good thing too! :)

Ammo:
5.45x39 mm (613)- yeah, you heard me, 613 rounds! :p
9x18 mm (148)- for my side arm, but I rarely use it anyway. Mostly just for dogs. I need to dump it.

Explosives:
RGD-5 grenade (6, I think, but I forgot to write it down)
VOG-25 grenade (2)- used for the "Tunder"

Health:
Medkit (14)- I use these more than bandages, since I have +600% health.
Army first aid kit (12)
Scientific first aid kit (3)
Bandages (31)- I need to dump these too!

Misc:
Tourist's Delight (11)- But I need to eat one soon, so 10.
Energy Drink (12)- I only need these for running through radiation.
Antiradiation Drugs (15)- I should add a few more...
2 Extra PS0-1 scopes- can you detach a scope that is already on a gun?

Areas Explored:
Cordon
Garbage- I have a lot of friends there lol
Agroprom
Bar
The Dark Valley

Oh! and I did the Duty Arena (don't know if there is a Freedom one). I did all of the ones I could at my level (Expert? can't remember).

Nias Wolf

06-24-2007, 11:22 PM

Wow, that was a bit long wasn't it? :p
Sorry!

Skalui

09-29-2007, 11:34 PM

Hello fellow Cultists, just bought Stalker a lil bit ago, playing it. Its fun. Actually harder then I imagined. Just a question from me to you...

Stashes - I find them all over the place, but they are empty. Why?

Adabiviak

09-30-2007, 12:32 AM

They have to be 'activated' by finding info on a dead stalker's body. In some cases, this doesn't guarantee that it'll have stuff in it. Also, when they're 'activated', these stashes will be marked on your PDA in purple. Stashes that aren't marked usually won't have stuff in them.

Target

09-30-2007, 06:16 AM

Finding info on dead bodies is definately what you need to do, though in some places that can be a pain - like when you have mown down a load of people and need to move all the bodies from a pile...

check the official stalker forums as well - theres a thread where some people went on a killing spree and piled up all of the bodies :)

Skalui

09-30-2007, 09:54 AM

Ahh, that makes sense.
This game is like...a fun hell for me, because I'm one of those people that NEVER saves.

shocked

09-30-2007, 10:40 AM

STALKER is the biggest disappointment in FPS games I have ever spent $40 on.

Buggy, has had numerous patches and nothing what they promised during development.

And, to top it all off, while the game is still buggy and unfinished they are making a new game and saying, "Spend another $40 and we promise this time we will giv e you what we promised"

Not. That game blows meat chunks. Do a mission, run ALLLLLLL the way back to get the reward, go ALLLLLLL the way back to another mission.

Boring....and repetitive.

Target

09-30-2007, 11:48 AM

it does get boring and repetitive at times, but its still a fun game.

I've suffered a glitch or 2 - enemies spawning right in front of you (once so far), shooting someone at point blank and not giving them any damage etc

The latest patch sorts some of the glitches out and makes the game run better, so its worth it in my opinion.

Walk_this_way

09-30-2007, 12:48 PM

The bugs really got in the way of otherwise good game. The devs really shafted the consumer.

yogibbear

09-30-2007, 01:09 PM

Stalker was very very awesome. I think i must be weird. As i seem to enjoy games despite the bugs. E.g. gothic 3. (i loved that a LOT and everyone went haywire over the bugs, well i didn't really notice them that much)

Stalker for me was awesome. Though i am a save-obsessor and had like 500mb of saves at the end of it. Had to go clean them up and keep only every 20th one after finishing it. In terms of playing around with ai and awesome guns and the 7 diff endings (though really only 2 diff choices... true/false) made this game. Never played the multiplayer at all except the beta of it. But the single player had this nice grudgey... i am sooo gonna die around this corner or over this hill feel to it.

Last point: it def. won't be near goty status or anything. But a very decent fps.

Target

09-30-2007, 06:50 PM

Its so awesome that im going through it again :)

i'm actually searching every single body so far - i normally only search military/faction member corpses - but i've found some interesting stash locations this time.

In a way its a bit like Bioshock - you find something new every time

shocked

10-01-2007, 04:18 PM

The bugs really got in the way of otherwise good game. The devs really shafted the consumer.

DING DING DING, we have a winner.

Stalker was the biggest disappointment ever. They have all but abandoned stalker and are trying to get clear sky up and running, saying it is going to have what stalker was supposed to deliver.

What? What Stalker was SUPPOSED to deliver? $40 mistake and they want me to spend another $40 on another title that is supposed to be what they promised? Are you kidding me?

I predict Clear Sky will end up in the bargain basement in a matter of weeks. No developer wants to go near this game it seems. Who would want too.

Stalker is their eyes being bigger than their stomachs. Just like when you think you are hungry and go hit the buffet line and then pile it on and get to your table and cannot finish it all and spend the next few minutes trying to convince everyone that you are working on it.

I would rather deal with 2k giving us ports than buying anything from gsc ever. Bunch of clowns.