The Dream Thread

[Circus of Values]

Basically, this is the thread to post your lightest musings, and your deepest thoughts. Err....dreams. Which are basically both. But anyway, post any dreams you have (APPROPRIATE!!) and let us discuss. Be ready for any comments saying "Wow, what a weird dream" because they usually are.

To start, I had a dream last night where I was standing in a room with a bunch of faceless people. However, 2 people I know from a very popular band (On hiatus, unfortunately) were standing around, doing nothing. It was Daron Malakian, and Shavo Odjadian, and they were just standing around. Then, they suddenly left, and I awoke, feeling more confused than I have been in a while.

[Spliced Big Daddy]

i had a dream where my cat,Bert, was chasing after me with a knife. when i was running he got distracted by a taco truck, which he hijacked and drove to mexico, true dream
this is a really cool thread, as you can see, i have weird dreams.

[Circus of Values]

I believe that, most dreams may be really scary while you are immersed in them, but sound ridiculous and impossible when told in real life. Maybe you have a deep-seated fear of your cat Bert, and really like tacos?

[Spliced Big Daddy]

I believe that, most dreams may be really scary while you are immersed in them, but sound ridiculous and impossible when told in real life. Maybe you have a deep-seated fear of your cat Bert, and really like tacos?

yes and yes, he is evil in so many ways

[Electric Flesh]

Heh heh...jeez...what a wierd dream I had last night.

I was tiny, and I was in my parka in a refrigirator, and then, by favorite beer, Red Tail Ale, started filling the refrigirator, and before I knew it...I was swimming in Red Tail Ale. And then, the ricotta cheese started floating...and suddenly, I was floating in a large mass of yuck.

Ah...that probably explains why I drank beer with my breakfast.

[thesuperjman]

this has been made before.

[Circus of Values]

I used the search function before I made this, and if any such threads existed, I didn't see them. Sorry if I missed one though.

[Gingerbeard]

i had a dream where my cat,Bert, was chasing after me with a knife. when i was running he got distracted by a taco truck, which he hijacked and drove to mexico, true dream
this is a really cool thread, as you can see, i have weird dreams.
That's so weird because the other night I dreamed that I was a cat chasing you around with a knife, then a stole a taco truck and went to mexico, which was kind of stupid because who would buy tacos in mexico anyway?

But in all seriousness, about 2 years ago I dreamed I was in the locker room of a YMCA, which was under attack by giant dinosaurs. I tried to fight them off by shooting them with lasers from my hands (like the people from dragonball z) but it didn't work.

And a couple weeks ago I dreamed I got in a fight with some guy at school, and we kept kicking the **** out of each other and even though we both had broken noses and stuff it was like neither of us were hurt, kind of weird, especially since it was a friend of mine.

[Asherah]

I don't dream that often but when I do it often something extremely bizarre. I had an extremly freaky dream last week. I dreamed that a friend asked me to help her with a science experiment. I foolishly agreed unaware of what the experiment called for. She injected seahorse embryos into my kneecap and when I place my knee near a light source I could see them pulsating in my knee. I told her I didn't like the experiment so she got this giant needle and sucked the seahorses out of my knee and placed them in a fishtank where they became big, yellow fish. I remember waking up and clutching my knee and saying, "Thank God that wasn't real." ....Yeah, I'm glad I don't dream that often.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

i had a creepy dream last night, i became nervous
when i woke up. i dont want to talk about it,
and i mean it. i seruosly dont want to talk about it..

[Circus of Values]

I just remembered a really weird dream I once had...I had died, but I could still walk around...like a zombie, except people couldn't see me...I could see them all mourning my death, and then I entered this room that was like...a void. I got this profound sense of loneliness from it. My dreams are only memorable if they were weird, or freaky.

[LordLeckie]

Im a lucid dreamer, been practising since Oct 07, basically its dreaming where you awaken within a dream, realise you are dreaming and become lucid as it were to varying degrees, anything from full self awareness to basic awareness and only the barest control over yourself still driven by baser functions (almost always sex or violence of some sort). Ive had around 40 something LDs i think, got a dream journal online for them as well as IRL to improve recall.

Anyone interested in it go to www.ld4all.com, that and the wikibook and other sites can lead you to success, although prepare for hard work, some people can take months to even years to see success, for me it took 15 days so i got it easier than most.

Its quite fun so far some things ive done.....

Used incinerate on my english class to get them to bugger off and get out of my way as i was busy

Flying/enourmous leaps, the first one normally comes from the second in some way, and no matter what i always get the butterflies in the stomach when i make the superman leaps, scary thing to do but fun as.

Telekinesis, staple of all LDing along with flying, good fun and good in fights (which i seem to get into a lot of)

Creation, making things come out of nowhere, be they my glasses to improve my sight (actually worked, now i simply wave it away when i can) candy, swords, people, hoverbikes (and i had to wrestle the owner off it as usual)

Heres my dream journal for those interested, need to be logged in to see it.

Leckies Lucidity (http://ld4all.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27086&highlight=)

[Circus of Values]

:eek: I must try that....I just read up on it, I hope I can rein in my dreams...sometimes, I will wake up and go "Why didn't I notice how weird that was?" Which hopefully means it might come easier. But hey, I'm gonna see if I can get lucid :)

[vitiis]

i remember this one the most - i just got 2 new beautiful black motorbikes for my birthday (i wish) and we were riding around. i was barefoot for some reason. then we were at the library (it remains a fawn colour, the ceilings are huge, and walls are mostly made up of glass) and the a dental office was upstairs that seems very creepy, like something odd was happening in there (hellooooo steinman!) anyway i was going up and down trying to find a particular place, things happening on the way like running into a room with a lecture going on about some book and i meet this woman who seemed very friendly. the room looked fantastic and has huge mesh drapes hanging down and was lit in dull orange and purple. everyone in the room was asleep. and then i go back to looking for my destination, whatever that may be.

i asked the dental people where i go and he says downstairs. the only thing i saw downstairs was a slide. no stairs. my boyfriend is suddenly in the dream but it doesn't really look nor sound like him. it has the letter 'W' on the wall. i decide to go down the slide (my motorbike is suddenly there) but push my bike down first. as i'm going down, i see it's getting a bit bloody and then i see some corpses. i realize that this slide leads to the morgue where all the bodies are dumped via the slide. i grab onto the sides and try and get out.

the rest of my dream is spent running around trying to get our bikes out of a pile of dead bodies. that's all i can focus on. there is a casino in this giant library and all these old people with coloured wigs are standing outside it. i decide to dodge that and go to this old nightclub/place to buy old records or something. he was a real hippie and i desperately asked if he could get e in contact with the morgue because I NEED MY MOTORBIKE. he's under the influence and he makes the call, chats about utter nonsense and hangs up. i ask him was the deal was and he said "oh i forgot". he wouldn't call again. dopey stupid man.

then i run into this woman who i hate, we shout names at each other, then she comes over and we're best friends. she walks with me for a while. then blah blah blah more people i run into. some foreign faces, some familiar.

i can't remember how i recovered the bikes but the last part of the dream is us riding home over a bridge (we rode over it on the way there) and stopping to tell a heap of people the bike and morgue and dead body story. one person was my bother. i'm very happy for some reason during this last part.

the end, or close to it.


- i remember up to 10 dreams a night in detail but this one was the last dream before i woke up and it stands out the most in my eyes.

[Metalizer]

I have to admit that I don't remember most of my dreams and those I do remember I'd rather forget...

One I won't forget in a hurry I had when I fell asleep one afternoon 2 years ago. I was pretty exhausted and ins some quite emotionally unbalanced state then and just wanted to get some rest and then I had a dream about my girlfriend leaving me (my worst fear at that time). When I finally woke up again I was so confused that I couldn't tell whether this really had happened or not for some minutes, it felt that real. I even had the idea that I could have been talking on the phone to her while I was asleep (my sister did that once - obviously we're a family of vivid dreamers) and her voice has somehow found a way inside my dream. In short, I was really confused and had to assume that I was real and I was just hurting like hell inside... and that wore off in the end I realized that something was wrong with my hand - this dream had been so unbarable that I have bitten into my knuckles hard enough to draw blood... well, at least I can say it made an impression ;)

[LordLeckie]

:eek: I must try that....I just read up on it, I hope I can rein in my dreams...sometimes, I will wake up and go "Why didn't I notice how weird that was?" Which hopefully means it might come easier. But hey, I'm gonna see if I can get lucid :)

It will be a long process no matter what uless you're a natural which is rare but not unfathomably rare, on the site i linked if you signed up look for a journal by WritersCube, guys a natural, does it every night full lucidity without fail and is working on building his own LD world, its quite interesting. But its definately worth the effort, my LDs that have been closest to full lucidity have been amazing experiences just simply being there, there is no greater thrill than the realisation you have infinite power to do whatever you want with absolutely no negative consequences whatsoever.

That said i must stop following every girl who appears in an LD, reigning in sex drive in LDing unless im pretty lucid is bloody hard as its barely lucidity so much as hightened awareness.

If i were to describe LDing.....hmm it would probably be akin to having some senses heightened others dimmed, and they will trade places from time to time, sight will be poor then highly highly acute, you may hear little to nothing (but not take notice) then suddenly hear music (rare for me which is annoying as im working hard on getting music in my dreams). Movement is strange, time and space dont really matter is dreams, sounds lovecraftian but it is, you can be in one place then another in a flash, often with the last place you were behind me, then turn see a rent in the unreality and now the new place. Time can be molded to will, i once used a sword where everytime i swung it (fighting hornets, big ones) time slowed, i moved normally but all around me slowed, very surreal.

Not to mention that those particually good at LDs can bend their perceptions to make it seem as if they were LDing for, weeks, months and in a few cases years.

[Circus of Values]

:eek: Wow...years of LD'ing would be sheer bliss. I mean...with the ability to (pardon the religious reference) play God...I could only imagine what that would be like. It would be like...living in a world where you control all the laws of physics, the laws of society, the way of thinking, you could really do anything you want. Wow...I can't wait. Until my first LD, I mean.

In other news, I remembered another nightmare of mine. Every time I have a nightmare, it seems to be recurring :(

I am standing in my house...no, wait, it just feels like it. Everything is cast in shadow, and instead of open space, everything is a hallway. Everything is also wooden, and barren of any color. Standing downstairs, I suddenly hear a scream from upstairs. Knowing it is my sister, but not knowing what has happened, I ran upstairs as fast as I could. The second I entered the room, I could see that a vampire (vampires seem to be recurring in my nightmares...I don't THINK I'm scared of them, though) had slit her throat. Looking at me, it hissed "My family will kill yours." Suddenly, he melted into a puddle of black, gooey...stuff. Impossible to describe, but horrifying in and of itself. Knowing that ultimately, I would need to defend my family against the immortal, I sit down and think....However, I just remembered that my parents were sleeping in their room alone, downstairs. I hear something moving in the darkness. Sprinting downstairs, I get in just fast enough to see my dad in his death throes. Screaming, I tear at the sheets. Every time I try to save someone, I arrive too late. Again... I remember my little sister, alone upstairs. I run to the stairs, but as I get close, the hallway lengthens, my vision doubles, and I find myself tired and dizzy. I hear my sister scream. Then, the shadows begin to move towards me.

[LordLeckie]

:eek: Wow...years of LD'ing would be sheer bliss. I mean...with the ability to (pardon the religious reference) play God...I could only imagine what that would be like. It would be like...living in a world where you control all the laws of physics, the laws of society, the way of thinking, you could really do anything you want. Wow...I can't wait. Until my first LD, I mean.

Indeed you can, one of the more interesting aspects of LDing is doing impossibly strange things, 360 vision being one of the more popular ones, im suprised peoples brains are capable of it.

As for the nightmares thing LDing has been noted by some people on the LD4all forum i linked as being a way to fight nightmares, its a lot easier to easier to confront inner deamons with your wits about you. Also interesting nightmare, sounds like something lovecraft would write.

[Circus of Values]

Definitely. Once I finally remember a dream, I should be able to remember to RC during it. Hehe..

[Electric Flesh]

I had my first self-induced lucid dream last night!

My lucid dream started like this. I was on a bike, a humble red one for some reason, like one that a 10 year old would want. It was nice, but if I tried to slow down and then speed up, I would swerve and fall. I had to maintain a steady pace. I then was going down a hill, and I tried to slow down...I was a bit scared. I swerved and went tumbling down the hill. I then, semi-euphorically, I noticed that I felt no pain. It occured to me: I was deaming. It felt so cool. I didn't care about the bike anymore, so I decided to run down the hill, for some reason. I then felt so weightless, I spread out my arms, and...I did it. I was flying. Gliding without a care! I dipped and tryed to keep a steady balance, feeling like I was full of helium. It was so much fun. Then, I heard a beeping noise. I was being pulled from my fantasy...nooooo...

I woke up, my alarm clock reading 6:30.

"Damn..." I muttered.

[Circus of Values]

Congrats, man :) Lucky. I hope I have my first LD soon.

[Electric Flesh]

It may seem futile, spending many days lucidless, but if you keep on keeping on, you'll get it.

[LordLeckie]

So true, its been a while since ive LD'd and last night i had a dream where my cousin leapt out a window, then was somehow acrobatically climbing a balcony when he couldnt possibly have done it, pity i didnt notice the dreamsign.

Still electric, what point did you realise you were dreaming?

[Electric Flesh]

So true, its been a while since ive LD'd and last night i had a dream where my cousin leapt out a window, then was somehow acrobatically climbing a balcony when he couldnt possibly have done it, pity i didnt notice the dreamsign.

Still electric, what point did you realise you were dreaming?

As I said, well, implied in my previous post, it was when I fell of the bike and didn't feel any pain. Imagine that in real life. :p

[AspirationRealized]

Wow. I'm sort of an expert at Lucid dreaming knowledge... but not experience, as I've never had one.

I didn't expect a thread for it to end up here, of all places.

[Circus of Values]

It kinda formed into it, after Leckie turned me on to it. :D

[AspirationRealized]

Yes I was working on an introduction to lucid dreaming for beginners... I was really, really into it for a good while.

[LordLeckie]

I usually look for a dream thread or start one on various forums like this where it wont be buried in billions of posts fast or ignored, forums of this level of activity are great. Not to mention i like to post when i have something to contribute and seeing as im into LDs a fair bit i focus on them.

So Aspiration what lead you to looking into LDing? for me i originally heard of it then would lie in bed at night telling myself i would LD, of course this is a technique but i was doing it poorly. It wasnt till i was linked to the wikibook on it as well as LD4all and the myriad postings there that i got into it so much. Having my first after 15 days when i was informed it could take months to years inflated my ego a fair bit so i got into it a lot more.

[AspirationRealized]

My mom had some lucid dreaming books she got when she was trying to merely interpret her dreams and thats when I first heard about it, but I didn't get into it much. It wasn't until my Introduction to Psychology class mentioned it and then I remembered and researched it a whole bunch.

There's better places for talking about LDing than here or even LD4all... or a better place, I should say.

[RTM]

My last dream that I remember was completly crazy, it went like this:

I was at school with some of my classmates, when all of a sudden it was like this demon took over my body. All of a sudden I ran up and hugged this girl that I really want to ask out in real life. All of a sudden, everyone turned and looked at me like I had just shot someone. Now in most of my dreams, they'll start then I'll suddenly think wait, I'm dreaming this is awesome! and I can control what I do, not so in this dream, I like took something, (looking back know, I dont even know what it was) and I ran off, driving a jeep away on the edge of a cliff, where all of my classmates chased after me. The terrain around me was kinda like the Uncharted Island. Then suddenly this girl, (the one from the begining) showed up beside me, and as we drove away, suddenly we reached this wierd temple place where there were trap bolts like from Bioshock. She got up and ran to my classmates, who were still chasing me, when suddenly I split into two people, one the Demon, and the other me. I was in control now, and the Demon ran off toward the temple. I turned toward my classmates, and they started shooting me, obviously they thought I was the Demon. So I chased it through the temple, battling a few big daddies and splicers along the way, (no I dont know where they came from) Then I fought the Demon like those guys from DragonBall Z, and totally kicked his ***. It was then that my classmates showed up and found out that I wasnt the bad guy. I then got the girl, and lived happily ever after, it was then I woke up thinking, that was one ****ed up dream. And I doubt I'll forget it soon.

And on the Lucid Dreaming stuff, I think I naturally do it, that is if it is where you know you are in a dream and you can controll your actions, cause 99% of the time that happens to me.

[AspirationRealized]

Yeah, there's such a thing as naturals. You should try to test the limits though... rather than just control your actions (which many consider the first step in lucid dreaming) try to change the setting around you. Bend reality, rather than act in impossible situations.

If you haven't already, that is.

[LordLeckie]

Yeah LD4all, for all its benefits its given me isnt too great of a forum given the annoying bull**** from the alternative medicine/supplements/spirituality that goes along with so much LD **** (i signed up for an alternative psychic stuff site for some free subliminal messaging program and now ive got all their emails set to spam so i can stop seeing constant offers of numerology and tarot)

Have you read any of LaBerges stuff, ive read most of "Exploring the world of Lucid Dreaming" and it was pretty good, shame he also insists on the tangents on the far east.

[thesuperjman]

i dont dream. it's actually frustrating

[Circus of Values]

You do dream...you just don't remember. :D Don't worry about it, some people are like that...hmm...If you go to LD4all.com, and ask around on the forums, someone might be able to help.

[AspirationRealized]

Circus is right, everyone dreams. The only way you wouldn't dream is if you had some sort of mental efficiency...

Plenty of people dream and never even know it, so don't worry.

[Circus of Values]

If you didn't dream, you would have to be sleeping about...1 hour a night. Dreaming occurs during the REM, or Restless Eye Movement, period. You go through about 4-5 per night, with a N-REM period in between (non-REM). If you don't have a REM cycle, you would be...well, probably collapsing from lack of sleep.

[Electric Flesh]

If you didn't dream, you would have to be sleeping about...1 hour a night. Dreaming occurs during the REM, or Restless Eye Movement, period. You go through about 4-5 per night, with a N-REM period in between (non-REM). If you don't have a REM cycle, you would be...well, probably collapsing from lack of sleep.

Wow...didn't know that. I learn somethin' new everyday! :D Thanks, Circus.

[Circus of Values]

Always good to know I taught something new :)

Anywho, I had a dream last night. Normal, not lucid. :(

Ok, I remember seeing a big parking lot filled with big, hairless dogs. One in particular runs over. For some reason, I seem to know him. I pet him, but realize I need to hide due to a zombie invasion. I hide in a bathroom with 3 lock on the door, but realize the door is off center. I slid it back into place. Suddenly, I hear a man outside shouting things...somehow, I know he is behind the zombie invasion. I vaguely remember visiting some house....but I forgot that part. Next thing I know, I'm in a hotel room with some friends who vaguely resemble Seth Rogen and some other nameless actor. IRL, I don't know them. 3 guys come to the door and say "Hey, the invasion is over, the world is safe." Somehow, I know the leader of the invasion just hired them to lure us into a false sense of security. They go into the room next to us, and I hear them start screaming...then it ended.

[Gingerbeard]

If you didn't dream, you would have to be sleeping about...1 hour a night. Dreaming occurs during the REM, or Restless Eye Movement, period. You go through about 4-5 per night, with a N-REM period in between (non-REM). If you don't have a REM cycle, you would be...well, probably collapsing from lack of sleep.
He's right. Everybody dreams, but some percentage (I used to know) of people never remember them> Actually everybody dreams pretty much every night, but only some of the dreams are remembered.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

He's right. Everybody dreams, but some percentage (I used to know) of people never remember them> Actually everybody dreams pretty much every night, but only some of the dreams are remembered.

what i really want to know is: "what are really dreams? night-time illusions? " i mean what is a dream's purpose? are they messages?
well...,only god knows.,

[LordLeckie]

Just to add to the dream remembrance data, you forget 50% of your dream within 5 minutes of waking, 90% within ten minutes unless like me you wake up and immediately try and remember your dream or simply do on reflex then record it (you can remember it in your head if you try but bits will eventually go missing).

As for what dreams are its still being studied, but its essentially where you enter a state of mind where you give off Theta brainwaves where your brain relaxes and and motor neurons are switched off to prevent you from acting out your dreams. The contents of a dream can differ but ive found in my own case can be highly influenced by what ive done or experienced that day runnig from, taste, sight, sound touch or occasionally smell.

Your own personal desires are though to make up dream themes at times, nightmares for fears, or during normal dreams an enactment of something you desire.

As for their purpose, its unknown but it simply may be they do not have an evolutionary function or biological purpose, it may simply be a biproduct of reaching a certain level of brain function like how some animals dream. Or it may be part of relaxing the brain during the night, its unsure.

Im for the theory that they dont really have a "purpose" so much are a side effect of having a certain brain capacity as well as being simple use of the brains memory function in relation to senses where they are replayed as the brain loses control over portions of itself or switches them off and thus play out in the head from prior experienced sensations or self made fantasy.

[Circus of Values]

Excellent way of putting it :) However, I think there are still some dreams that stick with you your entire life. I think I have had a total of...3 of those, and one of them actually quite recently.

Also, to add to the part about switching off the motor neutrons, I also read that it completely paralyzes you while under the effects. I wonder if someone has ever woken up during that, and their body didn't change back...that would be a freaky experience, in the least.

[LordLeckie]

People definately do wake up during Sleep Paralysis, in fact the WILD technique for LDs involves staying awake while your body falls asleep so you dive right in to a dream. Its proper name is REM Atonia and ive experienced it once (although possibly more than this) when i first succesfully WILDed, thanks to a combination of exhaustion, willpower and being in a different bed than normal (helps a fair bit ive found, a lot of the time it borderlin guarantees an LD) and had a short LD.

Most people unaware of the phenomenon who experience it are understandably terrified by it, and interestingly as well many poltergeist, ghost stories and the like where people wake to find strange things still happening are experiencing Hypnagogic Illusions (also part of WILD) which can be quite convincing, i remember on time waking to my room violently warping around me before it stopped as soon as i focused.

[Electric Flesh]

Whoa...that's scary. When I was really little, like 6 years old, I once woke up in the middle of the night, and tried to yell, but I couldn't. I was so scared. I just laid back down and went to bed. Any explanations? :confused:

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

hey thanks leckie that explained alot. where did you learn this from?

[thesuperjman]

You do dream...you just don't remember. :D Don't worry about it, some people are like that...hmm...If you go to LD4all.com, and ask around on the forums, someone might be able to help.

yea i know thats technically true, but i don't remember them. so generally speaking i dont dream.

i learned about the stages of sleep in anatomy last year and know that even if you wake up remembring a few dreams or none (like me) you've most likely dreamed a lot while asleep.

[LordLeckie]

I learnt a lot of this by researching online, reading a book on it (Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, hes the guy who scientifically proved they exist) and by reading thread after thread on LD4all.

As for the inability to yell, not sure, it could be a range of things, from you still dreaming (false awakening, a good way to enter or continue an LD but difficult to recognise and use) or maybe the motor neurons werent fully activated. I have no way to be sure.

Funnily enough i had my first LD in a month last night, ill post it here.

21/4/09

I was in a wasteland travelling with some random people, including Tarantino strangely, we were fleeing a zombie apocalypse, around me i saw visions of Bruce Willis teleporting into various movies trying to rescue his son. We drove off along a steep mountain road trying to get away, eventually we came to a desert area away from the rainforest like area of earlier.

We sat down, around us was a solar power station and some other place we could fight the zombies, next to us were 2 buses, one full of refugees trying to change a tire, the other seemingly empty, as i held my finger in front of the solar plant it glowed and was transperent, i showed this to my friends then suddenly realised i was dreaming.

Immediately behin me the other bus was full of zombies, they ran out and me and my crew shot at them before realising they were more refugees, i put down my shovel and found a friend of mine there.

"I told you that cog necklace would let me find you"

"how so?"

"well the way you look and manner of walking"

We then walked into a nearby shack holding hands, i focused and managed to phase us through the wall into the desert, i then headed for a nearby rock visualised then phased us through into a Roman baths area. Around us was a marble clad atrium with azure steaming water and tropical plants surrouning. I looked at her and changed her clothes to swimmers/bikini then my own to some board shorts to swim. We dived in and swam around for a while enjoying the hot water and playing around a bit before i woke up.

Phase teleportation is annoyingly hard especially dealing with sensation as well as focusing on where you go, you sort of see half where you are and half where you are going.

[Circus of Values]

Congrats :D Hoping for my own LD soon. I'm getting better and better at remembering them, I have remembered almost 3 in the past week, when I used to only remember maybe a week.

[Electric Flesh]

Wonderful! I haven't had one for a week. I kinda knew I was dreaming last night, but I didn't gain awareness. :D

[LordLeckie]

For me the glowing finger did it i think, lately ive been more worried about money and study so LDing happens by chance a lot, or in this case waking up then going back to sleep.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

sometimes when i dream, i dream that im falling and then suddenly
wake up and it makes me jump. (just a phrase, not literally)
does that ever happend to you guys? its very trippy..

[LordLeckie]

That happens to me so many times its not funny, when i woke up from the LD i just posted i could still feel a bite mark on my shoulder, other times ive woken up with EXTREME pain from being shot. However above it all i hate that feeling you describe of waking from a fall and you jump, it happens when im falling asleep too, ill be weaving in and out waking dreaming slightly/hypnagogic illusions/day dreaming and suddenly i trip in the dream or fall and i get a huge shock from nothing happening.

[Electric Flesh]

Wow...nobody's posting their dreams anymore...okay, I will.

I was on my bike, and then for some reson I was hovering hundreds of feet in the air. I kinda knew it was a dream, but I didn't gain awareness, then, I fell. I felt the sensation of falling...into my own bed. :p

[LordLeckie]

Funnily enough ive been dreaming a lot better now, perhaps its this thread, maybe its me not going to bed at 6am every day and waking at 4pm....

That said last night was me as Altair from Assassins Creed working for the Space Marines recovering an artifact, being branded a traitor and fleeing to a universe that was animated art, like those of flip books only with very very detailed pieces of art.

Also a tip for LDers, vitamin B6 is know to help you dream, so my advice is eat more bannanas, liver is also supposed to be a good source, but i prefer bannanas.

[Electric Flesh]

I like bananas. I'll have one before I go to bed. Wow.

[Henry Tomasino]

weed is good too.

[LordLeckie]

Now i cant remember exactly, but i think the B6 aides in the creation of acetylecholine which is essential for REM sleep. eating a bannana isnt a guarantee (still needs to time get into system etc ,i dont know how long it takes to have an effect or how long it lasts) but it can help. Its the little things.

For me ive always got the wake back to bed method or WBTB, wake up on the threshold of an REM period (http://www.thesmarterclinic.com/userfiles/image/chart1.jpg) stay half awake for a while, maybe do an easy puzzle, fall asleep again and with your more awakened mind in a REM period you have a much higher chance of LDing, when combined with MILD or other technique of your choice it works very well and is the best one to take supplements with.

[Electric Flesh]

weed is good too.

No, it's not, unless you want to get cancer, loose brain cells, and smell bad. Then it's just what your looking for. I'll stick with a banana.

[Henry Tomasino]

i'm not saying it is good for your brain cells etc. i'm just sayin you have nice dreams after it. but you`re right it makes pulp outta your brain.

[thesuperjman]

^^^^^^ so that explains a lot...... i stopped that a while ago, bigger things in my life now.

i still havent had any dreams since my last post hear

[mueske]

No, it's not, unless you want to get cancer, loose brain cells, get a tumor, and smell bad. Then it's just what your looking for. I'll stick with a banana.

I am not defending drugs or anything, but cancer (and tumor)? Who made you believe that? The loss of brain cells is proven to be right, but I have not encountered any study linking weed to the increase in probability of getting cancer/tumor.

And smelling bad is subjective, I don't like the smell either, but some people I know find that it has a rather good smell.

[LordLeckie]

The cancer thing probably comes from school anti-drug programs getting a little overzealous, over here they were pretty good and didnt bother with disinformation, just the facts.

[Circus of Values]

Haha. Yeah, they do get a bit excessive. They got all freaky about it back in my old state.

[Electric Flesh]

I agree, but cancer is very likely. I'm 22, dude. I'm not an easily persuaded kid, I make my own choices. Here is a good source:

http://www.health-insurance.org/marijuana-use-linked-to-cancer

Actually, edit. I learned it helps fight tumors, but it still is not my choice. I'm not a zealot, if someone uses it, I won't become all lemon-headed and say "you stupid degenerate, put it out" It's their choice, and none of my business.

Anyway, I got into this conversation before. Let's get back on topic.

[Judgeofwings]

well i'd tell you my dreams,but you guys would think i'm a freak.:) I have the ability of precognition and not all my dreams are pleasant,but sometimes i just have random dream that are just silly. When i get some funny dreams i'll let you guys know.;)

[LordLeckie]

Ugh, tip for LDers, i had another one last night, make sure you build the environment you are in, last night i found myself in a universe where up and down didnt exist, goddam it was annoying, lifting my head to look up or look down felt like wrenching it off my spine and using only my eyes i would be greeted with what looked like sunspots, thanks to that i lost concentration and lucidity.

In the end due to the fact that up and down did not exist due to me not building them (there was nothing to look at not even whiteness or darkness it was true nothingness) so things went bad from there, not to mention its been a while since a lucid where ive had good lucidity like last night so i was out of practice.

[Judgeofwings]

Ugh, tip for LDers, i had another one last night, make sure you build the environment you are in, last night i found myself in a universe where up and down didnt exist, goddam it was annoying, lifting my head to look up or look down felt like wrenching it off my spine and using only my eyes i would be greeted with what looked like sunspots, thanks to that i lost concentration and lucidity.

In the end due to the fact that up and down did not exist due to me not building them (there was nothing to look at not even whiteness or darkness it was true nothingness) so things went bad from there, not to mention its been a while since a lucid where ive had good lucidity like last night so i was out of practice.

oooo sounds interesting,how do you induce lucid dreams?They might allow me to expand on precognition.

[LordLeckie]

There are a vareity of methods each person needs to find one which suits them best, Ld4all is a good place to start and theres a wikibook on it as well which is quite useful and with good links too (google it im at uni trying to get references in a pinch).

Personally Wake Back to Bed or WBTB has been good for me, you go to sleep then wake up on the cusp of an REM period awakening your brain and giving you a higher chance of becoming lucid via things such as reality checks (this involves getting in the habit of testing reality to see if you are dreaming always looking for a negative result, always think you are dreaming do not dismiss this until you are sure) however for me i sort of ruined my reality checks by making them a random thing i did tons of thus rendering them useless.

Other techniques are CAT, (i forget what it stands for) where you slowly alter your sleeping pattern by waking up earlier than normak then going back to your regular one so that your brain gets used to being more active at a when you used to wake up therefore helping induce lucids.

MILD (Memory Induced Lucid Dream) is where you repeat a mantra such as "i will LD tonight" as you fall asleep in your head keeping focused on the mantra as you fall asleep, great when used in conjunction with other techniques.

WILD is quite difficult ive only done it once, Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming, where you go directly into a lucid dream from waking, it involves keeping the mind awake as the body falls into sleep paralysis then generally either getting hypnagogic illusions as you fall asleep which turn into the dream or simply entering a dream through an action such as jumping right into it.

VILD or Visually Induced Luid Dream is a variant on WILD, here you set up a simple scenario in your head which you visualise and then focus on as you fall asleep until eventually you fall asleep still doing it and thus becoming lucid (the scenario should be generally you doing a reality check or something similar to induce a lucid as well as some way of confirming/exiting the room or scenario once lucid so you can get to whatever you want to do.

[Circus of Values]

:( Its been so annoying, I haven't remembered any dreams in almost a week.

[Judgeofwings]

cool i'll try MILD out first,see how that works.

[LordLeckie]

The trick is simply not give up, are you keeping a dream journal? for me due to university ive had long dry spells of up to 2 weeks with no dreams remembered or simply been in too much of a rush to record them and thus i forget them.

Persistance is key.

[Circus of Values]

I have a dream journal on my bed, yes...the only problem is that I can't remember any dreams to record!! :p

[LordLeckie]

cool i'll try MILD out first,see how that works.

Its a good newbie technique, i reccomend looking at the wiki for LDing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming

It seems to have some good stuff in it, a quick skim of it shows the basics in better detail than my rushed quick replies.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming

The wikibook is the thing that set me off on my proper path to LDing, looking into the works of Stephen LaBerge is also a good idea.

[thesuperjman]

:( Its been so annoying, I haven't remembered any dreams in almost a week.

welcome to my world. care to discuss our timeless nights in void?

[Circus of Values]

Of course. I always feel like I'm...missing something. Like I have lost something that I could have used to change my life...like an amnesiac, almost. When I don't remember dreams, that is.

[LordLeckie]

Of course. I always feel like I'm...missing something. Like I have lost something that I could have used to change my life...like an amnesiac, almost. When I don't remember dreams, that is.

I wouldnt worry too much about it, eventually you will remember its only a matter of time, you have to make sure you get a decent length of sleep if you want to get good REM as REM periods get longer the further into your sleep cycle getting to around an hour in length around the 8 hour mark if i remember.

Reminds me, this is a good blog, http://dailydeluge.com/ especially for those looking into Supplement Assisted WBTB, also gave me this handy graph.

http://dailydeluge.com/2007/03/18/rem-graph/

[Judgeofwings]

welcome to my world. care to discuss our timeless nights in void?

I've had that before,all you dream about is pure darkness.it's creepy.

[LordLeckie]

A lot of the time i sometimes find my LDs end like that as i loose my control over them or get distracted, prolonging them is quite difficult, ive had around 37-45 (i need to do an audit sometime) and very few of them last more than 5-10 minutes, that said time is subjective in LDs, ive only messed with it once though with a sword where when i swung it i would slow time around me but i moved at normal speed, quite useful against the enourmous hornets that were attacking me.

[LordLeckie]

Ah yes i just remembered a 3rd "technique" DILD, Dream induced LD, here you have to already have had an LD and ive been attempting this from day one with no luck, basically tell dream characters to tell you, you are dreaming next time you LD. Alternatively you may try to get the dreams to get lucid, one guy said he sometimes had billboards erupt out of nowhere with the words "YOU ARE DREAMING" on them which let me become lucid a fair bit.

I hate my memory sucking in LDs, it took ages before i began to start remembering what i wanted to do in them rather than the usual "oh sweet im lucid...oh whats that! oh i can do this! awesome! sweet! cool! *wakes* "FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU"

[Electric Flesh]

I just had the wierdest LD, and it's fresh in my mind, as I just woke up a few minutes ago. I was soaring around an odd mix of New York and Venice, where all the streets were canals, but it had that NY aesthetic. Anyway, I was soaring, until I decided to land like a Canadian goose, you know, legs in front of you. Then, I spotted this wierd-as-hell creature in the water, it was huge, like a mix of a shark, a dolphin, and an angler fish. I was scared like hell. Then, it advanced towards me...AUGH! Then I woke up. Damn. :( I wish life was one long LD.

[LordLeckie]

Prolonging is dificult, i would give it a go from time to time in your LDs (congrats by the way) but at the same time its a skill that needs to be built up over time, i wouldnt expect great results early.

[Electric Flesh]

I don't. I've been trying for a few moths and got 2, and that was not until you linked me to that site and gave me some tips.

[Circus of Values]

I had another dream last night. The entire thing was just a prolonged Duke Nukem Forever commercial that I was watching from camera angles. It was definitely weird.

[LordLeckie]

prolonged Duke Nukem Forever commercial

Theres a metaphor in there somewhere :rolleyes:

[Circus of Values]

Thats the same thing my brother said when I told him. :o

[LordLeckie]

How do your family/friends react when you talk about dreaming? for me ive found dreams to be dismissed so easily, although i can understand that given people might have bigger interests than manipulating their own minds into a personal pleasure palace.

[Circus of Values]

It depends. My family will listen to dreams, but when I mentioned Lucid Dreaming, they all became skeptics and quieted me. Meh.

[thesuperjman]

One time, a few mornings ago, my alarm rang and I turned it off. I got up, got in the shower, and got dressed like I normally do in the mornings. Then I woke up. I had turned my alarm off, fell back asleep, and then literally dreamed my entire morning routine.

[LordLeckie]

It depends. My family will listen to dreams, but when I mentioned Lucid Dreaming, they all became skeptics and quieted me. Meh.

Good to hear the spirit of skepticism still alive, point them this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Laberge

Ive mentioned hi, numerous times in the thread, his work was what scientifically proved LDs exist, he monitored people who LDed (and did it himself as well as created MILD, WILD etc) and had them move their eyes in a specific function once they were lucid, quite interesting stuff.

[Circus of Values]

I told them about that :( they still didn't believe me. Man, I had a huge dream last night though.

I was in this broken down house sort of place, and there were about...30 people with me. Some I knew in real life, some I didn't. Anyway, we were trying to hunt these creatures, I don't know what creatures though. We all got assigned different jobs, some people got assigned to work on computers, others were hunters, others were seekers, etc. I was a hunter. Basically, the entire dream was just me searching for the creatures we were hunting. Once, I found a huge ant-pile, with enormous ants inside. Needless to say, we stomped them all into oblivion. Hehe.

It was actually a pretty fun dream. I enjoy horror-related themes that aren't really scary.

[LordLeckie]

Yeah those are fun, as for the parents i wouldnt worry, some people just arent interested and you might as well leave it at that.

[Electric Flesh]

I had an odd dream where I was in my underwear in my workplace. Pretty hideously embarassing, I must say.

[LordLeckie]

Well after my 33 hours up, i got 15 hours of sleep as well as an LD to go with it, along with a nightmare and tons of normal vivid dreams.

"I was with a friend in some random location and became lucid at random, or maybe i saw a dreamsign either way, i began to run and leap into the air as i did using super strength to smash through walls and fly"

Unfortunately i cant remember most of the LD as i went back to sleep after waking up and needing more sleep.

[Circus of Values]

Don't you just hate it when you wake up, and you don't remember anything? Then, when you are doing something where you have no access to your DJ (I was in the shower), you begin to remember it? It was fractured, but still....then I forgot it again. :mad:

[Electric Flesh]

Yes. I do. And as an aspiring cartoonist, the ideas for jokes seem to arrive whenever you least want them to, and don't arrive when you do. Dammit.

[LordLeckie]

Yeah that happens to me a fair bit, used to happen at school a lot as well, i simply demand of myself to remember it until i get a spare moment to write it down, for example the shower, that happens to me a lot too and so i actually begin to concentrate on it very hard and try and remember even more rather than the usual lazy relaxation of waking up in the...afternoon (i swear i was going to go to the 9am tutorial i swear! i set my alarm clock! damn you mornings!)

[Electric Flesh]

I hardly got any sleep last night, and now I'm paying the price. God, I'm so tired...

[LordLeckie]

I know your pain. Well this.....day i got some good dreams in including a first, i learned something from my dream/subconscious was remembering a lesson.

First one was me as a Space Marine from WH40K lore, me and my battle brothers were just finishing up a slaughter at a Tau base, suddenly out of no where a Chaos Dreadnought appeared (think thickly built mech with one arm as an extreme calibre minigun the other a crushing claw with a Flamer underneath it).

A Grey Knight with us began to battle with it but it grabbed hold of him and slammed him through a wall killing him, the task fell to me to take it on, seeing as Grey Knights got the best damn tech in the Imperium i grabbed his wrist mounted storm bolter (think extreme calibre sub machine gun only accurate) and tried that out, no avail. Next up was my plasma pistol which did some damage but not enough. Eventually i spotted the Power Sword carried by the Grey Knight picked it up and retreated into an area open so i would have an advantage in meelee (im not going toe to toe with a damn mech 3 times my size in a small area screw that).

Outside was a large open area with scattered trees filled with Chaos Daemons, the dreadnought has not yet caught up and i soon began to hack away at the daemons before an giant eagle came down and i rode it to safety.

I then found myself as a successful real estate mogul and was chatting with my assistants with donuts on hand when i overheard this "its a good idea to check the capital base and liquidity levels of the property markets to see if they have enough financial clout to both maintain debt systems and back credit card lending to the general public". What do you know i either overheard something i learnd in class/it came together in my head from what i know so far and came up with that as an idea. thanks subconscious!

Although it really sucked to then wake up at 3pm roll over thinking about the $3 million dollar sale i had just made and how i should take the jet to switzerland sometime and rolling over expecting to find donuts and then suddenly realising "goddamit im a poor ass uni student"

[Circus of Values]

...

That made me laugh. Hard. Dreaming about games is pretty cool though. I had a dream that I was a Zergling from Starcraft, once.

[LordLeckie]

For ages ive tried to have a Bioshock dream, so far the closest ive come is managing to mutate incinerate into my hand and then using it to set my english class on fire as they were in the way of a door and ash is easier to move than people.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

i had the most weridest dream yesterday:
we went on a plane trip to sea world (which is werid cuz seaworld is only like an hour from my house) i saw people from my school in my dream, when i got there i had to slide down a water tube-slide and i acceidently (sp?)
fell on a bunch of people who were dancing to some music.
the park manager got mad and sent out the army to find me,
it turned out to be a civil-war in the theme park and alot of people died.
and i remember me hiding in a cabin from some tanks.?
yea it was a werid dream. the last thing i remebered was seeing
the park manager getting arrested. mam that was a werid dream,
but very true

[LordLeckie]

Cool over 100 posts now.

But yeah whilst most dreams are illogical in some way ones that extreme arent as common as i would think, so often i find my own dreams have an anchor in reality such as in what i did (in your case the environment you were in) and reactions (in this case the park managers army being your slowed down brains interpretation of "oh he would be mad" then taking it to an extreme).

I wonder if theres a way to exploit this, somehow influence daily activities in some way (beyond reality checks) to make you more likely to have dreams like that full of dream signs that you are dreaming and more likely to notice it.

[Circus of Values]

First LD last night :D
I'll describe it later, I don't have the time right now.

[LordLeckie]

Excellent, good to see another person succeding, i await your return, thanks to me playing (and just finishing not too long ago) Deus Ex last nights dream involved me as part of Majestic 12 battling Nixon for some secret documents (i won)

[Circus of Values]

Here are the details of my LD.

I had just awoken from a dream. So I closed my eyes, and began to see images of people. I though "YES, HYPAGOGNIC!!" So I reached out, and grabbed the shoulder of one. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in a desk. I tried to stay controlled, by breathing deeply and willing myself to stay in the dream. I discovered then that I couldn't move. So, I turned around to the person behind me, and asked "Could you help me move?" She grabbed my hand, and I stood up. Then I woke up.

[Judgeofwings]

bah,i can't induce these LDs.Oh well.:o

[Circus of Values]

How long have you been trying? I have been trying, oh, about...

2 months or so.

Just keep at it, it will all be worth it in the end :)

[LordLeckie]

Interesting dream Circus, for me when it came to hypnagogic imagery ive only had it once but when i did have it, we sort of melded for me to get into my dream, cant remember specifics at the moment but i do remember that dream being vivid and my control being better than normal. One tip i know for staying lucid is the spinning technique, seeing and feeling as much as you can giving more and more form to the LD, you can only see what is there and if there is nothingness then you cannot turn your head. In the case of your movement i like how you solved the problem, moving in LDs can be a ***** depending on what form you have (from time to time ive said screw it and went with energy ball which is so simple and easy). Also remember the placebo effect, if you think you can do it then you can, if you think it exists in the LD then it does exist, all is at your whim and you have no limitations, keeping that in mind is great for overcoming fears of LDs collapsing (which then of course happens as you thought of it and made it happen) and the like.

Also judge, it does take time and effort, in my case it was a solid 15 days of trying before i got anywhere, better than most people but still i almost gave up too quickly.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

LD dreams?:confused:

[LordLeckie]

Lucid Dream, a dream where you are aware that you are dreaming to varying degrees of lucidity, memory capacity and intelligence and are thusly able to influence them as all is directly in your head via the placebo effect.

[Circus of Values]

Man, last night I had such a weird dream...about a PL event. It was so long and elaborate, I can't even begin to describe it...

[LordLeckie]

Ugh i really am getting sick of missing dreams due to my sleep cycle being erratic thanks to school, although lately managed to get some good sleep in and remembered my dreams which is a plus.

On the bright side ive noticed that ever since i started my LD project dream vividity, length and my ability to remember them never fail due to gaps in my dream journal/lack of practice, seems its stuck with me

[Judgeofwings]

I'm kinda confused....In a lucid dream are you supposed to be able to physically feel and control everything or are you just completely aware of the dream? Because if its the latter then i'm already doing it,but if it's not then i need practice.:o

[JacksfriendFabio]

I had a dream that I was watching and old b-movie alien film with all my friends at this old retro movie theater. We started to laugh at the aliens because they looked so cheezy and all the sudden the screen tore open and like a sea of aliens from the movie came out and flooded the room we were in. All of my friends ended up getting washed away by the aliens, while I was still sitting there laughing and the torn open movie screen. Then I woke up.

The day before I had this dream was the day that I had hung out with abunch of my friends and had watched the old war of the worlds.

[LordLeckie]

I'm kinda confused....In a lucid dream are you supposed to be able to physically feel and control everything or are you just completely aware of the dream? Because if its the latter then i'm already doing it,but if it's not then i need practice.:o

It will vary from dream to dream but yes the standaard definition is being aware that you are dreaming, whether or not your mind realises the importance of this during the dream is what matters to most people who actively practice LDing. Sensations will vary but the height of LDing is considering being able to feel things exactly like in reality and in addition to this enhanced by whatever it is you add to the universe you have created of which you have total control.

Congratulations if you are aware of your dreams regulary you may be a natural, if so then you can have it much easier than most in inducing ones where you remember what your intentions in LDs are/realising what you can do and thus enjoying your LDs.

[Circus of Values]

My sleep schedule has been so messed up lately, I haven't had time to even attempt WILD.

[Mr. Bubbles~]

My dreams (Even though i never realize it till' the end) are always (ALWAYS!) in third person. I don't know why.:confused:

[Cohen's Masterpiece]

My dreams (Even though i never realize it till' the end) are always (ALWAYS!) in third person. I don't know why.:confused:
yea, same here.
I had a dream a few nights ago that i was a big daddy in fallout 3 with Alyx Vance (right after an xbox binge ;))

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

yea, same here.
I had a dream a few nights ago that i was a big daddy in fallout 3 with Alyx Vance (right after an xbox binge ;))

thats werid. i never had a videogame dream before, not that i remember..

[thesuperjman]

i actually dreamt last night. it was wierd. kidna like SAW. but there were other people but only me and one other guy were victims. and the "bad guy" was a black woman who i couldnt make out really but im positive was oprah. anywho, i remember getting to a point where i had to break every mirror in the city to defeat her. i woke up while i was in the process of doing that.

[LordLeckie]

i actually dreamt last night. it was wierd. kidna like SAW. but there were other people but only me and one other guy were victims. and the "bad guy" was a black woman who i couldnt make out really but im positive was oprah. anywho, i remember getting to a point where i had to break every mirror in the city to defeat her. i woke up while i was in the process of doing that.

I KNEW IT! GET THE PITCHFORKS!

On my end ive been having military dreams, defending a choke point but my gun didnt seem to work, it threw bullets but at such a speed that only small pools of blood appeared on enemy faces and i have to go up and pistol whip people to actually kill them before resorting to a strange homemade blade weapon, was a 2x4 with blades on each end, thankfully i woke up before i sliced myself to ribbons with it, also what a nice burst of thread activity.

[Electric Flesh]

I had a dream that I got stranded on an island with a talking dog. The dog was alright until a squirrel dropped a heavy stone on him, revealing he was nothing but a robot. I then tried to find food, and for some reason Jack Sparrow from the POTC trilogy game sailing by on a ship. I somehow get a gun and kill him, then I swim towards his ship, jack his ship, and sail away...then the scene changed. I was at work, and for some stupid reason, my buddies wanted to get locked in for the night, so they could sue the company for locking them in for the night. I agreed, so we got locked in...then, I woke up. Lesson learned, I will never have pizza and booze before bed ever again.

[JacksfriendFabio]

I had a dream that I got stranded on an island with a talking dog. The dog was alright until a squirrel dropped a heavy stone on him, revealing he was nothing but a robot. I then tried to find food, and for some reason Jack Sparrow from the POTC trilogy game sailing by on a ship. I somehow get a gun and kill him, then I swim towards his ship, jack his ship, and sail away...then the scene changed. I was at work, and for some stupid reason, my buddies wanted to get locked in for the night, so they could sue the company for locking them in for the night. I agreed, so we got locked in...then, I woke up. Lesson learned, I will never have pizza and booze before bed ever again.

Wow.. That is a weird dream! I liked the part where, " I was at work, and for some stupid reason, my buddies wanted to get locked in for the night, so they could sue the company for locking them in for the night." That would be hilarious to see in a movie.

[Electric Flesh]

I enjoyed the part where I pistoled Jack Sparrow in the face. Jeez, I hated him...he was funny in the first one, but then, he just became annoying and nauseating.

[LordLeckie]

He definately overacted in the second movie, havent bothered with the third.

As for my dreams ive been sleeping poorly lately due to diet and schedule and feeling chronic fatigue from it, woke up this morning both incredibly hot and very cold in some areas, sucked major arse.

Dream wise........damnit i forgot to record them........ah yes now i remember, was at a theme park i dived bombed into a pool a guy got pissed off at me for nearly hurting his kid, i apologised and went on, meanwhile he kept following me and threatening me, i argued with him a bit before both of us began to fight and i pushed him over the handrail of a tall staircase killing him before waking up worrying about manslaughter charges and the plead provocation.

[LordLeckie]

After 18 hours of sleep i assume my REM periods went off the chart in terms of length, as such ive LDed without any much effort (although i did managed some wild before crashing from my 33 hour day and have been using more reality checks lately). I was in some.....place, all i know is it was colourful like a mardi gras or something, but i did a reality check (! first time in a while this has worked) and looked around noticed a girl who was with my party (or so things kept shifting, being a person then shifting into a thing) me and her hit it off went off etc etc censored. That caused the LD to crash unfortunately.

Couple of other vivid dreams, attempted to rob a resteraunt twice, second time whilst my parents were there eating. Also i can remember so many of my dreamscapes are lonely place, quiet, things look very surreal a lot, never really too many normal places in any way but i guess thats the norm.

[Circus of Values]

He definately overacted in the second movie, havent bothered with the third.

As for my dreams ive been sleeping poorly lately due to diet and schedule and feeling chronic fatigue from it, woke up this morning both incredibly hot and very cold in some areas, sucked major arse.

Dream wise........damnit i forgot to record them........ah yes now i remember, was at a theme park i dived bombed into a pool a guy got pissed off at me for nearly hurting his kid, i apologised and went on, meanwhile he kept following me and threatening me, i argued with him a bit before both of us began to fight and i pushed him over the handrail of a tall staircase killing him before waking up worrying about manslaughter charges and the plead provocation.
Whoa. Nice...manslaughter...

[LordLeckie]

Whoa. Nice...manslaughter...

I just hope i get a sympathetic judge. But seriously he was annoying me at a theme park i was in every right to push him off a staircase that seemed to extend in the stratosphere.

[Circus of Values]

Haha. Nice description. I just remembered a dream. It's kinda lengthy, and my fingers hurt from playing guitar for like, 7 hours yesterday >.>

Basically, I was fleeing from these greek titans. I had to get away, so I went into this house. One of them shrunk in size, and came in after me. He tossed me around a bit, but I tricked him and ran away. I went to a house, and found that my 7th grade english teacher was there. He gave me some stuff, and I set out. I was walking along a road at night, and whenever the sun rose, I had to hide from the sun titan. (Time was accelerated) Then I woke up.

Weird stuff.

[Judgeofwings]

I had the weirdest experience this morning. In my dream i was at my college campus getting ready to go to class when my friends and i stumble upon some really huge 15in+ footprints in the grass and mud(rainy day in my dream).When we looked up there was a Sasquatch/Yeti about 250-300ft away and he was heading towards the mountains(my school is in the foothills so it's pretty close to the mountains).Well me being the stupid impulsive idiot,i decide to provoke him and get his attention.

Now here's the strange part,when i was taunting him i decided i wanted to scream and yell at him(maybe that would annoy the big furry freak:D ),and right when that thought went through my head i gain complete conscious control of my dream and awareness that i am dreaming.When i try to yell i can't...i'm still paralyzed in real life,but its weird because i actually felt my body loosen up as the paralysis wore off right then and there.I ended up waking up completely yelling/screaming! Craziest dream i've ever had.

I have had sleep paralysis before,but i'd always hallucinate and think i'm getting sucked into a black hole,yet this time i had control.:)

[LordLeckie]

Yes i have had similar experiences, most often accidently blinking, losing vision and opening them to the real world (or so i think it is a lot of the time, damn false awakenings).

[Fief]

It's weird, I pretty much never dream, lol but than again I don't think I sleep long enough to fall into R.E.M. sleep. but on the very rare occasion I do have a dream it is usually completely absurd, and than I forget it a few hrs later. :p

[Circus of Values]

Ouch, yeah, I hate dreams like that Fief. Or, when I get up, and don't remember a thing...

Then I get in the shower...

Then I remember...

And by the time I have exited the shower, I have forgotten. O.o

[Electric Flesh]

Yeah...damn, that sucks. O.o

[Fief]

Ouch, yeah, I hate dreams like that Fief. Or, when I get up, and don't remember a thing...

Then I get in the shower...

Then I remember...

And by the time I have exited the shower, I have forgotten. O.o

LOL wow I could totally relate

[LordLeckie]

Well those of you who keep dream journals will find this happens less and less, ive remembered stuff in the shower to only forget it again but remember it an hour or so later still in excellent detail, helps to keep a pen on you a lot of the time so when i was at school i would generally whip out my planner and jot down the dot points and the like to write down when i got back.

For example this mornings dream was of me taking on a job at a resteraunt in front of a swamp, where i had to trek to get all the damn ingredients for the chefs, lousy dream if you ask me.

[LordLeckie]

Ok this thread hasnt seen activity in a while time for a revival, ive had my first LD in a long time last night thanks to finally getting around to watching "Paprika" excellent movie i would reccomend to those interested in dream related media.

25/6/09


I was in a small corridor where a mirror at the end of the hallway gleamed, i walked up to it and stepped through, at this point i became lucid i looked aroun and saw a minotaur and 2 others i now forget. I experimented with going through the mirror a few times before summoning a large chocolate bird, as its been a while since ive had a tasty meal. Unfortunately it tasted horrible and i soon found myself on the floor and then awake in my bed.

Pity about the chocolate and i wasnt very lucid overall but better than nothing.

[Cohen's Scherzo No. 7]

I don't dream very often. I remember a year or two ago, when I had first started watching Star Trek: Voyager a lot, I had a dream where Captain Janeway and Chakotay showed up at my house and I got their autographs. It was great. :)

[LordLeckie]

Yeah you'll often find things youve done in the day replay in dreams, ive found moreso with movies and the like than other things as it is a strong audio-visual stimulation where you are generally very attentive for a good amount of time.

Im still peeved over the chocolate sucking though.

[vitiis]

I had a dream I was back in Tokyo and woke up completely missing the place again.

I hate how my dreams are so sensorially alive. All very real and impact on my days if I have a particularly haunting one.

[LordLeckie]

For me i dont have too many dreams like that but when they do for me its generally been a positive experience. Either way having an LD makes me pretty happy for a while seeing as more often than not its awesome.

[x IZ A KITTY]

LordLeckie: I LOVE Paprika!! :3


I had an odd dream last night where I was in a garage sitting lonely on some boxes, and my family opened the door and interrogated me, telling me how lonely I am and how I need to clean my room (they were referring to the garage though, haha). So we cleaned up the garage together and my stepmother was like "see, now don't you feel better? why don't you go out and do something now." So I did, walking down the street in the foggy dark, but I brought along a wooden rocking horse; except the wooden parts that makes it rock were broken. I continued walking down the street until I came up to a building that looked like a mix between a Starbucks and a train station, and I placed the broken rocking horse next to a bike railing. I also took off my coat, leaving my glasses in the pocket of it, and went inside the building. When I got to the third floor of the building, I saw my stepfather and my uncle sitting at a Starbucks-like table, drinking alcohol. My stepfather beckoned me over and started swearing at me, calling me obscenities, calling me stupid because I didn't have my glasses on. I started crying, saying I had lost my glasses, and I ran away, out of the building to get my jacket. Only when I got there, I noticed my rocking horse was gone.

And then I woke up.

It was a really odd dream for me. o O

[LordLeckie]

Heh yeah its an awesome move, weird dream too.

[Cohen's Scherzo No. 7]

I had a weird dream last night. I killed a big daddy and rescued the little sister, then the big daddy must have been pretending to be dead because when I looked back he was climbing into a little sister hidey-hole. Then I woke up.

[LordLeckie]

Ooh nice a BS dream.

I had another LD yesterday, i was in a Cessna and the pilot decided to stop flying it, so i took control of the plane dodging trees and the like thinking "good thing ive practiced in LDs" before hopping out of the plane running along leaping in to the air and taking flight by myself. At this point i realised i was dreaming and began to zoom along in to a cyberpunk city, i came to a building where i stopped and hovered for a bit before deciding to see how fast i could go.

I set off again and began to accelerate as fast as i could before tilinting upwards to avoid a building and lose lucidity.

[x IZ A KITTY]

Had a BioShock dream last night:

It was me, some guy that looked like Bill from L4D, my brother, my sister, and some older woman that looked like the queen from Princess Diaries who I kept calling "Nana".
We were all in a cabin playing a game where we had to smash these cement-like blocks to get to the pokemon card inside, but there was only one block that had the card... and there were groups of other people over too.
And this special pokemon card allowed you to summon the pokemon displayed on the card as a pet if you read the description on the card.
So my team kept winning them, and all of the other teams were complaining. one team was so mad, they said "cheaters, Rapture isn't home for cheaters! we're gonna send Fontaine at you!"
They left the house and moments later, Fontaine's voice was heard... so Bill apparently had a drill for this, and was like "alright everyone, grab a poking stick from the fireplace and hold onto it while you hide under the covers".
So we all did, except for "nana", who was just standing in the middle of the room and she was like "I have to do this". And everyone was okay with this except for me.
So Fontaine comes creeping through the house, (I guess Fontaine = The Rock because he looked and talked exactly like him) and he grabs nana and drags her to what was supposed to be the kitchen.. Even though I'm not there, I can see the kitchen, and it has this enormous pit it in now filled with boiling water, and it has a cage over it so the person in it can't get out.
Fontaine puts his hand in the boiling water to demonstrate what will happen to nana.. he puts his hand in for about a minute, takes it out and he has no skin left, only flesh...
But his skin regenerates, of course, because he's Fontaine.
he forces nana to strip herself of her clothes and throws her into the boiling pit, locks the cage door and says "Ryan was right about one thing; there will never be a shortage of volunteers for Big Daddies."

And my dream ended there.
+shudder+

[vitiis]

I had a dream last night that I was about 8 feet tall and was stomping around on a crowded golf course.

[Gingerbeard]

I had a crazy dream where I was some place ive never been to, and it was flooding, and me and some other people were trying to lead a group of people to higher ground and a bunch of other stuff happened that I cant really remember.

[Electro-Bolt]

Are nightmares okay to post? :p I had one last night about a zombie apocalypse in York City. I was with a group of random people and we were trying to survive by looking for shelter and food. Not much more I can remember, though...

[L33tsaber]

Man... last night, I dreamed that I went to a beach and found sheet music for "Rise, Rapture, Rise"... except that the lyrics were weird in some places, and there was commentary from Cohen printed under the verses (which wasn't there the first time I looked at the sheet music).

[Circus of Values]

Haha, that is pretty weird.

I haven't been remembering dreams lately. :confused:

[Mr. Bubbles~]

I haven't had any dreams that I could remember for at least a short time in like a month and a half.

[Judgeofwings]

I sometimes interrupt my own sleeping process.Last night i was trying to fall asleep,but unfortunately when i was starting to relax and drift i started becoming aware of what was going on and wondered how i fall asleep.Totally killed the vibe and had to try again.:p

[mueske]

I sometimes interrupt my own sleeping process.Last night i was trying to fall asleep,but unfortunately when i was starting to relax and drift i started becoming aware of what was going on and wondered how i fall asleep.Totally killed the vibe and had to try again.:p

I do that too, it's rather annoying!

Anyway, I remember I was dreaming, but I can't remember what I was dreaming about... I think it was a nice dream, so it kind of sucks that I don't remember! :p

[Mr. Bubbles~]

I had a dream last night that I was in this big city and I was in a school and this little kid had a gun and he was shooting everyone. So I started running as fast as I could through all these bushes and stuff and then I woke up. Yay for messed up pointless dreams!

[mueske]

I had a dream last night that I was in this big city and I was in a school and this little kid had a gun and he was shooting everyone. So I started running as fast as I could through all these bushes and stuff and then I woke up. Yay for messed up pointless dreams!

Dreams aren't pointless my friend! :)

[rchris48]

Dreams aren't pointless my friend! :)

Okay, so this has meaning?....

My dream two nights ago…

I was back at my parents house, standing at the top of the basement stairs. I turned the light off, then heard moaning, I turned the light back on and yelled down to the basement, "Hey, who's down there". (Oh side note in the dream I already knew that I was alone in the house). I turned the light off again, heard the moan again, turned the light back on, took two steps down asked again and then feet shuffled across the doorway. I was too far up the stairs to see from the knees up.

That scared the BA-GEES-US outa' me enough to wake me up-heart pounding-sitting straight up in bed about to scream until my brain told me it was just a dream.

I couldn't fall back asleep for a bit after that and I still can't stop thinking about it.

[Circus of Values]

Okay, so this has meaning?....

My dream two nights ago…

I was back at my parents house, standing at the top of the basement stairs. I turned the light off, then heard moaning, I turned the light back on and yelled down to the basement, "Hey, who's down there". (Oh side note in the dream I already knew that I was alone in the house). I turned the light off again, heard the moan again, turned the light back on, took two steps down asked again and then feet shuffled across the doorway. I was too far up the stairs to see from the knees up.

That scared the BA-GEES-US outa' me enough to wake me up-heart pounding-sitting straight up in bed about to scream until my brain told me it was just a dream.

I couldn't fall back asleep for a bit after that and I still can't stop thinking about it.

Zombie dreams FTW.

I did have a dream tonight... but I can't really explain it here.

[Mr. Bubbles~]

Zombie dreams FTW.

I did have a dream tonight... but I can't really explain it here.

Send me a PM about it! I wanna know! :p

[Mr. Bubbles~]

Dreams aren't pointless my friend! :)

Well I was in a city to start... Then I was running through some bushes with a bunch of little kids and the teacher :confused: I think that's pretty weird :) Maybe not pointless... But weird.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post!

[mueske]

Okay, so this has meaning?....

My dream two nights ago…

I was back at my parents house, standing at the top of the basement stairs. I turned the light off, then heard moaning, I turned the light back on and yelled down to the basement, "Hey, who's down there". (Oh side note in the dream I already knew that I was alone in the house). I turned the light off again, heard the moan again, turned the light back on, took two steps down asked again and then feet shuffled across the doorway. I was too far up the stairs to see from the knees up.

That scared the BA-GEES-US outa' me enough to wake me up-heart pounding-sitting straight up in bed about to scream until my brain told me it was just a dream.

I couldn't fall back asleep for a bit after that and I still can't stop thinking about it.

Dreams have been proven to have an effect on your mental status. Dreams help you process, even if you're unaware of it, events and encounters that still reside in you subconciousness.

People that do not dream (often by pathological issues) have been proven to be in more downed state of mind compared to people who do dream and can process the events in their life.

I'm not arguing symbolism in dreams, as I know nothing about that.

[Mr. Bubbles~]

Is it just me? Or has anyone had a dream that actually DID end up happening. Even if it's some random thing in one of those dreams right once it happens in real life I get this CRAZY Deja Vu type thing. Anyone?

[Judgeofwings]

Is it just me? Or has anyone had a dream that actually DID end up happening. Even if it's some random thing in one of those dreams right once it happens in real life I get this CRAZY Deja Vu type thing. Anyone?

I do,I literally get premonitions.
A few months ago i had dreamt that i was outside but i saw things from bird's eye view.The sky was a horrible bloody red with a weird sick green as far as the eye could see just undulating and contracting(clouds obviously).And out of nowhere planes start crashing down from the sky destroying thousands of house except one.When i woke that morning i found out that there was a crash in Buffalo,New york.The plane was having problems and crash-landed in a suburban area destroying only one house!

Sometimes i don't like these dreams because i know i can't help save anybody.:( But at the same time i feel it's a blessing.:confused:

[Mr. Bubbles~]

I do,I literally get premonitions.
A few months ago i had dreamt that i was outside but i saw things from bird's eye view.The sky was a horrible bloody red with a weird sick green as far as the eye could see just undulating and contracting(clouds obviously).And out of nowhere planes start crashing down from the sky destroying thousands of house except one.When i woke that morning i found out that there was a crash in Buffalo,New york.The plane was having problems and crash-landed in a suburban area destroying only one house!

Sometimes i don't like these dreams because i know i can't help save anybody.:( But at the same time i feel it's a blessing.:confused:

But I mean... I don't have dreams that relate to what will happen. My dreams are of EXACTLY what's going to happen. So far it's been nothing big like plane crashes or anything. But I still find it pretty freaky.

[Judgeofwings]

But I mean... I don't have dreams that relate to what will happen. My dreams are of EXACTLY what's going to happen. So far it's been nothing big like plane crashes or anything. But I still find it pretty freaky.

no,i get those too.
When i was in high school i would have dreams of tests and the questions and answer to those tests,only thing is they were random so i had no idea when these things were coming up,but the dreams had exact details of what answer i was going to pick,what i would erase,read,etc.... And when they did happen i would just smile and think to myself,i've seen this before.

[Mr. Bubbles~]

no,i get those too.
When i was in high school i would have dreams of tests and the questions and answer to those tests,only thing is they were random so i had no idea when these things were coming up,but the dreams had exact details of what answer i was going to pick,what i would erase,read,etc.... And when they did happen i would just smile and think to myself,i've seen this before.

That's pretty much what happens to me except it's stupid things like one of them was:

I walked down my hallway and down to my basement and as I was walking down I looked at my shadow on the wall. I was also carrying something. None of mine have been very helpful like with tests and stuff but, like you, I never knew when they would happen. It's weird though... I mean how does your brain imagine something that actually is going to happen sometime in the future?

[Chronic Alchemy]

Dreams are just too weird at times...:p

[Judgeofwings]

That's pretty much what happens to me except it's stupid things like one of them was:

I walked down my hallway and down to my basement and as I was walking down I looked at my shadow on the wall. I was also carrying something. None of mine have been very helpful like with tests and stuff but, like you, I never knew when they would happen. It's weird though... I mean how does your brain imagine something that actually is going to happen sometime in the future?

Who knows? There are scientist trying to figure this out.Some believe that there is a small gland(which our ancestors refered to as the "Third eye") in our brain that is somehow able to access the fabric of time which actually allows one to "see the future" using a very unique frequency or something.Actually if you have watched the show Fringe(The best show in existence,IMO) they did touch on "deja vu".

On the other side of the spectrum religious people think it is purely a gift from "God".

But who really knows? It just makes my head hurt when i think to much about it.:rolleyes:

[Egg02]

I had a dream not that long ago and in the dream I got up, went to school, sat through my classes, and then got home......I then woke up and had to go to school. I was soooo sad.

[Electro-Bolt]

Who knows? There are scientist trying to figure this out.Some believe that there is a small gland(which our ancestors refered to as the "Third eye") in our brain that is somehow able to access the fabric of time which actually allows one to "see the future" using a very unique frequency or something.Actually if you have watched the show Fringe(The best show in existence,IMO) they did touch on "deja vu".

On the other side of the spectrum religious people think it is purely a gift from "God".

But who really knows? It just makes my head hurt when i think to much about it.:rolleyes:

If you believe in the occult, I suppose that this is a very logical explanation. Many people believe that they can glance into the future by analyzing their dreams, but in reality, dreams are completely random and have no real meaning. It's human nature to look for answers for things which can't be explained.

P.S: Fringe is awesome! ;)

[Circus of Values]

Had a dream last night that I was ROCKING out on guitar. Seriously, anything I played sounded like a masterpiece.

[Mr. Bubbles~]

Had a dream last night that I was ROCKING out on guitar. Seriously, anything I played sounded like a masterpiece.

Awesome! I had the WEIRDEST dream... I can't exactly remember it though...

[Deathhound]

I had a dream about a discussion with my sister. The conversation was about getting a birthday present for my mother lol
And I came to the idea to buy her the third season of Gilmore Girls, that's what I'm planning also in the real life :p

[Cohen's Scherzo No. 7]

I had a cool/weird dream last night. I thought I'd revive this thread with it. I don't remember too much of it.

I was a big daddy, and I seem to have had the ability to instantly remove the big daddy suit. We were in some sort of a war, and we were caught by someone. I didn't want them to know I was a big daddy so I took off the suit, but I couldn't get the pants off, so my pants were a lot bigger than the rest of my clothes. Then I don't remember much about what happened, but then I was outside. I saw the weighted companion cube, but it wasn't really the real one, it was just like the cheap paper one I have on my nightstand but it was the size of the real one. I thought I should try to crush it with one hand, but my human hand wasn't big enough, so I put the big daddy suit on and I grabbed it with one hand, but before I could crush it I was interrupted by something. That's all I remember. Weird, right? :D