View Full Version : What system will you play BioShock on?
One0Shot
02-23-2007, 02:54 PM
Most likely 360 for me though I would like to try pc also assuming it runs it as well on my pc.
Mega Raptor
02-23-2007, 04:17 PM
X-box, unfortunately. I greatly prefer games like this on the PC, but at the moment I'm too broke to upgrade the compy enough to run new games decently.
jam777
02-23-2007, 04:24 PM
I would've preferred playing it on my PC, but unfortunately I have a feeling I'm going to be picking it up for the Xbox360 instead. My only reason is because I know that I can trade it in for a little credit once I'm finished with it. Gamestop no longer takes used PC games and trying to re-sell them doesn't seem worth it. :(
Newbeing
02-23-2007, 04:39 PM
I bought a 360 just for this title. I would have played PC, but my PC at home is like 7 years old hehe.
jackinthebox
02-23-2007, 05:24 PM
I bought a 360 just for this title. I would have played PC, but my PC at home is like 7 years old hehe.
why didn't you buy a computer instead? ;)
wow i'm astonished... so many votes for the xbox? i am going use my computer though... even if i have to upgrade it^^
a rabid chicken
02-23-2007, 05:27 PM
PC. I think it's very odd that a computer user would buy a 360 just to play BioShock, assuming you frequently use your computer. I don't know. There's nothing wrong with it, it just seems like an odd decision to me.
Xerxes
02-23-2007, 05:45 PM
Well the main reason i bought a 360 is for Bioshock, upgrading a computer cost a fortune nowadays and you have to update it again after a year...
PC. I think it's very odd that a computer user would buy a 360 just to play BioShock, assuming you frequently use your computer. I don't know. There's nothing wrong with it, it just seems like an odd decision to me.
errr and Gears and Halo 3 and Mass Effect and Alan Wake and fable 2 and Graw 2 and GTA IV and Assasins Creed and other titles i can't remember right now... :rolleyes:
Necros
02-23-2007, 06:23 PM
PC. :cool: Even if I'll only be able to run it on medium settings with 20 FPS. :)
CaptainSwordchucks
02-23-2007, 07:31 PM
I'm another X360 user here. I do prefer the mouse-and-keyboard combo for FPSes, but honestly, that preference isn't nearly strong enough to make me spend hundreds of dollars on a gaming rig when I already have a perfectly serviceable laptop for all my computer-related needs aaaaaand a 360 for my gaming stuff.
Speaking of which: yo, Xerxes, you forgot about Dead Rising. Also Crackdown. And Fight Night Round 3, which, for $30 like it's priced right now, is /aces/.
Necros
02-23-2007, 07:40 PM
All the games he mentioned are coming to the PC too. Well, 4 of them a bit later. :D
FrenchTart
02-23-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm not a huge fan of consoles...especially for FPS games, so it's PC for me :)
I can definitely see the temptation of the 360 - cheaper and all that. However, I personally need justification for this 8800 graphics card and BioShock looks like it might provide just what I want ;p
Newbeing
02-23-2007, 08:10 PM
why didn't you buy a computer instead? ;)
wow i'm astonished... so many votes for the xbox? i am going use my computer though... even if i have to upgrade it^^
$ of PC>>$ of Xbox 360. I am also buying other games to of course, but Bioshock was the game that sold me for it.
Definitely on PC there is no other platform.......period...to play BioShock on :)
Timmy_Magic
02-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Definitely PC. I just don't think my 6800GS will do it justice. :(
Nicolai
02-23-2007, 09:58 PM
Definitely the PC. I don't have an X-Box 360 and I doubt I'll be acquiring one anytime soon.
Corgano
02-23-2007, 10:44 PM
PC for me, since I got a new rig this x-mas. All I need now is a nice Bioshock Theme...
Rapture_Tourist
02-23-2007, 10:53 PM
Definetely 360. I will enjoy it on my LCD TV with 5.1 sound... I cant even wait to hear the water flushing from everywhere with sounds of steel mourning under the waterpressure ;).
I have got a new 1,7 GHz Dual Core Laptop, but I think/hope the 360 version will look the same/superior. I would like to see 360 compared with PC graphics nonetheless.
One0Shot
02-23-2007, 11:00 PM
Definetely 360. I will enjoy it on my LCD TV with 5.1 sound... I cant even wait to hear the water flushing from everywhere with sounds of steel mourning under the waterpressure ;).
I have got a new 1,7 GHz Dual Core Laptop, but I think/hope the 360 version will look the same/superior. I would like to see 360 compared with PC graphics nonetheless.
I bet it wont be much if any difference at all. The whole big screen has really done it for me lately to choose between pc and 360 other then games mostly made for pc like fear. But I still would like to use the pc controls. I have a good pc but if this game is anything like oblivion I would just be obsessed with tweaking everything and finding tricks to make it run smooth at top quality. It just hurts me to turn down any graphic settings.
Avatar
02-24-2007, 12:15 AM
PC all the way.
Even if I had an Xbox 360, I still wouldn't even consider playing BioShock on it. I'm a dedicated PC gamer.
bulldogsfan
02-24-2007, 12:34 AM
i'll be playing it on the 360 just for the fact that i've grown up on the consoles and having bought the 360 not long ago, would like to increase my games library
redrain85
02-24-2007, 01:53 AM
PC. I'm never buying another console again, the Xbox (not 360) was my last.
One0Shot
02-24-2007, 01:59 AM
PC. I'm never buying another console again, the Xbox (not 360) was my last.
Oh come on you got to at least get the wii.
v.dog
02-24-2007, 02:15 AM
My reason can be summed up with two and a half words: Keyboard & mouse. It's the best way to play FPS. Period.
And if the game is moddable, that's just the icing on the cake.
zyklop
02-24-2007, 05:15 AM
I will play it on my PC - actually i´m building up a new one in this days, after two and a half years my old one is´nt "state of the art" anymore... ;)
So i hope, that a Core2Duo 6600 with a Radeon1950plus will be able to handle Bioshock.
Besides this i have to agree with v.dog - it´s almost impossible to handle a FPS or similar game with console controls.
Pinstripe
02-24-2007, 06:26 AM
Pee-Cee.
Because I like to have mouselook when hunting down a splicer who crawls around on the ceiling. ;)
Alfie
02-24-2007, 07:46 AM
PC of course. Always have, always will.
(Apart from my Amstrad CPC back in the 80's! ;) )
Still the best way to play FPS.
Komistis
02-24-2007, 08:11 AM
PC all the way! I could never aim properly in FPS games with those damned console controllers...
Bartekk
02-24-2007, 11:09 AM
PC, 'cause I upgraded it lately. I'd buy X360 if it was just for BioShock but there are few other games I'm looking forward to that come for PC.
Adam Nuhfer
02-24-2007, 12:30 PM
PC- Have a new build underway. E6700. Building it because of Bio Shock. Would not have built one now if it wasn't for Bio Shock.
I also have a X Box 360. My 25 year old son uses that mostly. Don't know if he wants to play Bio Shock or not.
witch
02-24-2007, 01:37 PM
360 all the way, most fun I've had with a system in a long time. Plus, I've actually liked a controller over a mouse. Really, I've never been a fan of PC except for the awesome half-life series (be getting the orange box for the 360 though!) and some other classics like shock, undying, etc and mmo's of course.
Either way this looks to be the best fps gaming experience of the year!
redrain85
02-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Oh come on you got to at least get the wii.
Maybe if I had kids and they wanted one, I'd buy a console. But for me personally: I'm not interested any more. I want to support PC gaming, and show game publishers it's still a viable market. And I want to do more than just play games, so why not just stick with a PC and invest in upgrades now and then, rather than spend it on a console. The myth that PC gaming costs an absolute fortune and requires upgrading every year, is just that . . . a myth.
Besides: modding games, and mods for them, has become something that really interests me. And it's very likely we'll get a toolkit released for the PC version of Bioshock, to allow us to make mods. I want to be a part of that.
Gabby_Hayes
02-24-2007, 08:30 PM
I'm undecided because I neither have a box powerful enough to run it or own an X360.
That being said I know people who do and I'll buy the game on either platform FOR them if only to be allowed to play it to completion even if it takes a couple years to accomplish. As weird as this sounds it has happened before, Eternal Darkness I'm looking at you, and for a game this potentially awesome I'll do it again.
Darkness
02-24-2007, 08:51 PM
There are probably very few people out there who could run this game on PC at max. Sure, I know there are some hardcore PC gamers out there with 10k machines, but the average joe gamer like me will have to stick with the 360 version.
I suck with keyboard/mouse controls anyway. :o
a rabid chicken
02-24-2007, 10:55 PM
I imagine BioShock will be relatively scalable. Performance was one of Irrational's top goals graphics-wise, so I would bet that you don't need a top-of-the-line computer to run the game on lower settings. I certainly hope so, since I always think it's really a bad move when developers alienate PC-owners who don't want to spend an arm and a leg to keep their machine top-notch all of the time.
FrenchTart
02-25-2007, 12:22 AM
There are probably very few people out there who could run this game on PC at max. Sure, I know there are some hardcore PC gamers out there with 10k machines, but the average joe gamer like me will have to stick with the 360 version
To be honest, I'll be both surprised and disapointed if I can't run it at 'max' with my not-too-expensive system
c2d @ 3.3 ghz, 8800GTS 640 and 2GB of ram.
It's a reasonably high-end rig, I guess. But it didn't even cost £1k, let alone 10 ;)
I'm not disagreeing that you can get nice results from the 360 for a fair bit less cash but I'm sure you won't need SLI r600s with 4GB of ram and quad/oct core processors ;)
Glottis
02-25-2007, 12:45 AM
On the PC,no contest.I have a pretty fast PC,and a recently purchased 8800GTS from eVGA,as well as a Dell 2407WPF,both for Bioshock and my new lcd,as my EN7800GT from Asus,that I bought in January of 06 isnt quite fast enough to game @ 19x12.
Later on in the year my current card will be easily dropped into my wifes PC,and then I will grab a 8900 variant.My current C2D @ 3.42 Ghz with 2GB's of DDR2 800 should handle it (Bioshock) well.If not,I will be a little pissed,but I plan to grab a Q6400 or 6600 when the next price drop from Intel hits in late April.I wonder if she will be able to run the game with details on high,at a decent res (16x10) ?
She is currently running my A64 X2 3800 @ 2.45Ghz + my older 7800GT.
She has a 1.5Gb of DDR 400 ram and a SB Live 5.1
Speaking of sound,will the game support EAX 3,4, or 5? I got my paws on a X-Fi Plat off Ebay for under 95 shipped,and have been very impressed with it.My speakers are crap (40$ Creative 2.1's) I am currently gaming with a set of AKG 240s,and although they are not very insulated,they offer great bass and good mids as well. :)
Not decided yet. Depends on how it's on my sys, but since I have played RR6:Vegas (UE3), I'm worried. This Engine is somewhat unscaleable and the performence copmpared to similar Engines is low. It doesn't even had a native widescreen support :eek: oh gee!
^ilovebioshock!
02-25-2007, 03:58 PM
Xbox 360 for me because i know BioShock will run smooth for a 360 because that is what a 360 is for ,playing games you don't have to upgrade it or anything like that but on a pc you have to and then another game will come out for the 360 and pc and you will have to upgrade your pc again and u won't have enough money because you spent it all on upgrading it for BioShock
redrain85
02-25-2007, 04:03 PM
There are probably very few people out there who could run this game on PC at max. Sure, I know there are some hardcore PC gamers out there with 10k machines
What makes you think that? That's an enormous exaggeration.
Like take my rig. Most of the components in my PC are FIVE YEARS OLD. Yes, can you believe it? But about 3 years ago I did a minor upgrade on it. It's an Athlon XP 3200+, with 1GB RAM, and an ATI X800 XT. Now for Bioshock, it won't be good enough. But for most of the games out there, it still plays them decently even now. I can even play FEAR at 1280x1024 with AA and AF turned on, and I still get over 30 FPS.
Total cost over 5 years? $3000 CDN, which is like $2500 U.S. I didn't upgrade my PC every year. That's foolishness. Only the hardest of the hardcore spend that kind of money, upgrading every time a new shiny processor or video card comes out.
You can definitely build a rig today for $1500 U.S. or less, that would handle Bioshock at max settings. When I finally buy a new PC this year, I don't expect to spend more than $2000 CDN.
the_bUg
02-26-2007, 01:26 AM
I'll be playing it on 360 since I can't afford a beefy rig. I think darkened room surround sound will work nicely with this game.
edit: +post count
Shake Appeal
02-26-2007, 09:03 AM
Once upon a time I was a hardcore PC gamer, now I will happily play this on the 360 (years without a good rig have atrophied my keyboard and mouse skills and I am now happier with two analogue sticks).
IMBender
02-28-2007, 12:53 PM
What makes you think that? That's an enormous exaggeration.....
You can definitely build a rig today for $1500 U.S. or less, that would handle Bioshock at max settings. When I finally buy a new PC this year, I don't expect to spend more than $2000 CDN.
Amen! I am planning to build a rig later in Q3 07, and I am sure the config I have in mind (C2D E4400 tweaked to kingdom come, 8600 GT/Ultra) will be more than capable of handling anything Bioshock and the current crop of UE3.0 games throw at it at medium-high settings. That is, assuming that the port doesn't suffer in the least. But still, considering that the game is set to release in the first week of June, I don't think I can wait until Jul/Aug/Sep to play the game, and will most probably end up picking it for the Xbox 360 first and depending on how the modding community reacts to it and how the game gets ported to the PC, maybe the PC version when I upgrade.
I am first and foremost a PC gamer and love the keyboard-mouse combo, but the X360 controller isn't really half bad, which is something I can say after playing quite a number of FPSes on it. If it can work for fast-paced twitch-shooter games, I am sure it will be more than adequate for the measured pace of BioShock.
LowEnergyCycle
02-28-2007, 02:40 PM
A year or two ago I would've easily said "the PC or course!", just about all of my favorite games are on the PC (barring the Metroids and Zeldas).
But I'm faaaar to sick of graphics card and CPU companies dictating what games I can play. I'm not chasing technology like that anymore - I want to play games, not catch-up.
So I'll be buying it on Xbox360. I never thought I'd say that... but... y'know. I'm not freakin' made of money. And I'm not pandering to Nvidia any longer, the extortionists.
Loberto
03-02-2007, 12:50 AM
I'm going to have to borrow a 360 in order to play the game. I just got a Wii, so it will be awhile before I can afford to acquire another system. But for this game, I would. The philosophy behind the design of this game is exactly the way I think games should be designed.
Sargone
03-02-2007, 01:01 AM
Pc, I'm basically a Pc player ;)
Lucas78
03-02-2007, 09:29 AM
Bought a Shiny Core Duo 6600, 2GB Ram, 8800GTS. 'Nuff said, can't wait ;)
DSroyU DOW
03-02-2007, 12:01 PM
i wish i had enough money to do that :( ... so its gonna have to be on the good old (not) reliable 360
sniper_zero
03-04-2007, 11:04 AM
PC of course ;)
Silent Film
03-05-2007, 12:20 AM
I will play it on the PC. I am due for an upgrade and will do so sometime within the next couple of months but this may be the one occasion that I upgrade with a specific game in mind.
Campfire
03-05-2007, 08:30 AM
Meh... I'll be buying a Xbox 360 (waiting on the HDMI version) just to play Bioshock and Alan Wake...
http://www.myspace.com/eddieduff
Hatesink
03-05-2007, 10:55 AM
Although Mouse and Keyboard are the better option I prefer console gaming to PC gaming.
I think I'll wait and see. When I update my hardware I may have to get a new PC instead of a 360.
MacarenaRowBot
03-05-2007, 11:10 AM
Ive come to the non-descision that I will buy both games on both platforms. No, im not a rich deusch, but rather a poor sap who cant choose one over the other. Im a big advocate for PC games, though I cant dish out the big cash for a new video card to run the game on full settings.
Unreal Engine 3 is forcing entry into my computer's backside, so I know that I cant get the most out of Bioshock on my current PC setup.
I do however want the PC game for future mod capabilities, and my prefered PC control scheme. That, and I feel an heir to the System Shock Legacy deserves to be in my PC collection.
I do however also own a 360. Being the beast machine the 360 is, I know I will be able to experience the game unsacrificed. in my living room, on my stereo.
I toyed with the notion of buying both versions of Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, but never went through with it. However this time, I am very dead serious. Bioshock is my #1 game, and I intend to show it by purchasing both versions. (the superficial way to show I care)
Silverback
03-08-2007, 02:00 AM
PC. :cool: Even if I'll only be able to run it on medium settings with 20 FPS. :)
Necros is my dawg!
He must also know what it's like to actually love the customization of a PC game(or maybe he doesn't own a directxbox like me:p ).There's nothing better than PC gaming in the world as a console lets you escape into the game world, whereas a PC does that AND make you feel like it's truly YOUR experience.
*LOSER ALARM - It's also a more personal experience for me cause you develop a "relationship" with how your computer runs and actually get excited when it performs well.. {sounds lame, but such is life}
Besides, nothing beats a mouse and a nostromo n52 for precision FPS fragging:D
PC's for life!
Glottis
03-08-2007, 11:48 PM
I am a little surprised the PC is gaining in the poll....Hmmnnnnn :D I am grabbing two copies of Bioshock as well.one for me,and one for the wife.
Giftmacher
03-09-2007, 11:52 AM
I am a little surprised the PC is gaining in the poll....Hmmnnnnn :D I am grabbing two copies of Bioshock as well.one for me,and one for the wife.
I'm not sure it's that surprising, I think a lot of System Shock, therefore PC gamer, fans want Bioshock to tide us over till SS3 ;) I'd guess there's a sizable pre-existing PC fan base because of that, plus I'm not certain how many Xbox only owners will frequent this message board.
Gift.
GuybrushThreepwood
03-09-2007, 11:58 AM
I will buy the PC version for sure. I'll even buy a new PC almost because of this game. So it better be good! :D
v.dog
03-09-2007, 05:16 PM
I'm not quite sure Bx is going to be a killer app for me either, but with Bx, Assassin's Creed, Stalker, and hopefully Mass Effect- my old Celeron will be demoted from Shodan to TheMany (my laptop is Xerxes, and my PDA is Delacroix).
witch
03-09-2007, 07:25 PM
I don't think it's that surprising that PC's leading, I'm sure someone pointed out that most people that are here probably come from the ttlg forums (I've lurked there a bit, seems most people prefer PC, :D).
Sometime down the road if i ever get a better PC ill pick up bioshock again, for the mods as well as support. For now though, my 360 and hdtv will welcome it with open arms, :D
Glottis
04-07-2007, 03:54 AM
I'm not sure it's that surprising, I think a lot of System Shock, therefore PC gamer, fans want Bioshock to tide us over till SS3 ;) I'd guess there's a sizable pre-existing PC fan base because of that, plus I'm not certain how many Xbox only owners will frequent this message board.
Gift.
I think you and witch are right on those points... :D
lotkrotan
04-07-2007, 04:56 AM
i'm a mainly console guy, my only PC gaming experiences have been mainly RTS' and some shooters (UT and CS), but I've never had a gaming rig, and have found myself only being able to play great PC games years after their release (I just got into UT2004 >_<), but I do own a 360, and have loved every minute of it. From Call of Duty 2 at launch, to Oblivion and Dead Rising, to Gears of War and all the great arcade games (replaying castlevania sotn right now). Now, I do plan on making a gaming rig this fall, mainly one that supports DX10 so that I can play some of the games on the horizon of PC (Jericho looks great), but it will be 360 for me, because right now I can barely play UT2004 on max...
splicer
04-07-2007, 05:54 AM
360 for me too,the pad is perfect-
ACEtheVAMPIRE
04-07-2007, 04:36 PM
XBOX360 on Big Screen 720p :D
Hatesink
04-07-2007, 06:01 PM
I'm thinking it might make more sense for me to upgrade my PC.
I guess it really depends on the the cost of the hardware when the game's released. I'd like to get a quad core processor, but I'm guessing they're going to be pretty expensive for a while to come.
A 360 might just be the easiest solution.
king_clueless
04-09-2007, 05:32 AM
I've got and love my consoles but I'l be playing Bioshock on PC. Making a new baby soon so hopefully I'll be running it in highest settings in a it's glory.
Ni7r0g3n0c1d3
04-09-2007, 09:48 AM
360 for me running @1080p, doubt my PC could run Bioshock at a smooth frame rate at the same resolution till I upgrade in a year or so. Then i will get it on PC too,so long as there are some mods out for it.
(Pentium 4 3.2GHz, 512mb RAM, Geforce 7900GS (256mb) isn't gonna do this game any justice @1920 x 1200 is it??? )
I just hope the game hasn't been dubbed down too much because its coming out on the 360, especially since there were only 2 reasons I bought a 360 (Bioshock and Halo 3) and it would suck if this game suffers as a result and misses the mark *coughs* Oblivion! :( .
Eternal flame worker
04-09-2007, 12:42 PM
In my 360, of course.
Raveness
04-09-2007, 02:29 PM
PC for me, on this system:
Core2 Duo e6600 @ 2.4 ghz.
2GB DDR2 800 mhz. RAM
eVGA Geforce 8800GTS 640MB vidcard
SATAII 16MB harddrive
Top of the line Sennheiser surround-sound headphones (having speakers not directly in your ears is for losers. Hearing loss FTW!)
Such a system was not that expensive, and those who complain about people overspending on hardware every 12-16 months do not realize that a lot of these PC hardware junkies spend the same ratio of money as those who upgrade every 3 or so years. When someone spends $1500 a year on hardware, but makes a hundred grand a year, thats almost the same percentage of income that someone who spends $1500 every third year, but makes only 35 grand a year.
EDIT: I don't like being tied to the final product the developers push out for eternity, as mods for the PC version can extend the life of the game, especially if an SDK is released *wink wink...nudge nudge*
I'll be playing it on my new yet-to-have-been-purchased 360 elite on my new yet-to-have-been-purchased 26 flat panel LCD with HDMI input for high res. gaming and quality sound.
Top of the line Sennheiser surround-sound headphones (having speakers not directly in your ears is for losers. Hearing loss FTW!)
my home-theatre set-up can cause more hearing loss than your headphones! Especially since it's not just my hearing on the line with that system, everyone else in the house is at risk when I decide to crank that nob to the right.
Raveness
04-09-2007, 08:05 PM
my home-theatre set-up can cause more hearing loss than your headphones! Especially since it's not just my hearing on the line with that system, everyone else in the house is at risk when I decide to crank that nob to the right.
That's excellent! So you'll be able to watch and listen to your local hockey team crush the opposition in the championship rounds in full surround-sound hi-def glory
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Oh wait.....:p
that's just low D:
to be fair as much as I do fly the blue and white flag as a card-carrying member of Leafs Nation, I've been nay-saying our teams post-season prospects since the pre-season started. Mainly because I hate our GM (John Ferguson Jr.) and he'll in all likelyhood be relieved of his duties as a result of this years failing.
Just wait till we win the cup though, the whole country is going to explode!
borgdrone89
04-10-2007, 01:00 AM
PC, cos i dont have a 360
^ilovebioshock!
04-10-2007, 01:29 AM
Im an Emericon:D
seriosly though i am american
Club Heaven
04-10-2007, 06:53 AM
PC all the way ! There was only one game that ever made me want to buy a console and that was Shadow of the Colossus. The rest just looked cheap and dumb to me. I know that statement is kinda stupid but since I'm a PC elitist bastard, I think it's understandable ;)
CodeMonkey
04-10-2007, 11:07 AM
I'm torn, I love playing games on the 360 but my PC is pretty kick butt and it might look better on that (I've got the great GeForce 8800 GTX and plenty of processing power). Also it's a lot easier to add player created mods and hack in general on a PC.
That being said, Oblivion is 1000 times better on the 360 just because of the controller. For some reason the PC version does not easily work with the 360 controller even using one of those keyboard/mouse to controller mapping software. I wonder if the same will be true for this game.
v.dog
04-10-2007, 07:59 PM
If you want speed and accuracy in an FPS, you can't beat a good keyboard and mouse.
I used to play Quake with a gamepad, but when I heard all the best players used KBM, I decided to give it a shot. The learning curve was quite steep, but once I got used to it, there was no going back. I don't care how great GoW, Halo2, or R:FoM are- playing them with a controller makes me feel like a gormless hippo wallowing in wet cement. It just doesn't respond anywhere near as well.
Raveness
04-10-2007, 08:54 PM
Agreed. Saying a controller can be just as good is a myth, rarely supported by anything more than a small minority; like saying consolitis never happens, or that EA's sports titles offer quality improvements each year, or that Nintendo doesn't cater primarily to kiddies.
Redraf
04-10-2007, 09:01 PM
The Wii mote could copare to a good keyboard and mouse if anyone was willing to make a good shooter for the Wii.
I'd love to platy games on my PC, but my PC is crap and I'm too poor to upgrade it.
Agreed. Saying a controller can be just as good is a myth, rarely supported by anything more than a small minority; like saying consolitis never happens, or that EA's sports titles offer quality improvements each year, or that Nintendo doesn't cater primarily to kiddies.
We're going to have a problem, me and you. ;)
In regards to accuracy on gamepad vs. console, I'd argue that it's a myth, but I certainly wouldn't disagree that it's supported by very few. My FPS life started on PC with games such as doom/quake/quake2/q3arena and various other less popular titles and at that time I would've agreed with you full stop. However now that I've spent more time playing console FPS' I'd be willing to put my speed and accuracy up against any PC user.
secondly while I'm vastly disappointed by most of EA's sports titles, EA's NHL series is hands down the better in the 2k vs. EA debate. The most recent incarnation of '07 could've used some content a bit beyond what was offered, but that "skill stick" is most major improvement to an NHL game in the history of NHL games, the feeling of realism jumps 10 fold once you're used to the stick.
everything else you've said is totally kosher though.
Glottis
04-11-2007, 12:33 AM
Agreed. Saying a controller can be just as good is a myth, rarely supported by anything more than a small minority; like saying consolitis never happens, or that EA's sports titles offer quality improvements each year, or that Nintendo doesn't cater primarily to kiddies.
I of course agree with the above statements,about ohhh....ten trillion percent :)
v.dog
04-11-2007, 12:43 AM
Sorry, Jeff, but I've got to disagree. This article (http://www.twosense.org/articles.php?id=92) shows why the mouse is superior for FPS from a technical standpoint (it also shows why the controller is better for beat-em-ups and driving games).
Club Heaven
04-11-2007, 03:50 AM
It's gonna be painful to watch the pc crowd obliterate the console crowd when the first cross-platform FPS arrives. Headshot after headshot after headshot :D I'm sooo looking forward to it.
And don't hate me now, all I want is to teach those obnoxious (Halo 2) fanboys a lesson. Constantly shouting about their uber skillz and how the PC is inferior and all that mindless bs. They've been asking for someone to put them in their place for years now. And I intend to do my part when the time comes. :)
v.dog
04-11-2007, 06:44 AM
I'm with you, brother. Only I'll be laying waste to them in Team Fortress 2.
Club Heaven
04-11-2007, 07:11 AM
If it ever comes out. I'm right up to my neck with Valve's endless delays. And their "episodic content"... my bum.
Shamanix
04-11-2007, 01:59 PM
PC, PC and... PC !
Bioshock is a PC game, like the 2 System Shock, like Deus EX (1 ^^), and like the Thief series !
And play a FPS with a pad.... :eek:
I think, Bioshock run confartably on my Core 2 Duo E6600, 2Go ram, and Geforce 8800 GTX 768mo on my 22" wide screen, all for 2000€ = 2683$ (with screen), ok, it's a lot of money, but this PC (buy 2 week ago) is OK for tow years without anny change, and it's the price in France, in US i think the same config cost less money. (Lucky guys :p )
One0Shot
04-11-2007, 03:29 PM
PC, PC and... PC !
Bioshock is a PC game, like the 2 System Shock, like Deus EX (1 ^^), and like the Thief series !
And play a FPS with a pad.... :eek:
I think, Bioshock run confartably on my Core 2 Duo E6600, 2Go ram, and Geforce 8800 GTX 768mo on my 22" wide screen, all for 2000€ = 2683$ (with screen), ok, it's a lot of money, but this PC (buy 2 week ago) is OK for tow years without anny change, and it's the price in France, in US i think the same config cost less money. (Lucky guys :p )
lol you wont be saying that when crysis comes out ;).
360Forever
04-11-2007, 03:43 PM
If you want speed and accuracy in an FPS, you can't beat a good keyboard and mouse.
I used to play Quake with a gamepad, but when I heard all the best players used KBM, I decided to give it a shot. The learning curve was quite steep, but once I got used to it, there was no going back. I don't care how great GoW, Halo2, or R:FoM are- playing them with a controller makes me feel like a gormless hippo wallowing in wet cement. It just doesn't respond anywhere near as well.
yeb but controler dont sucks if you learn a little you will steer you character exactly the same as on pc there are only differences on faster shooters like Ut 2003 and quake 3 i play on both systems shooters and i see only differences in
fast shooters :)
ps: sorry for my bad english im from swiss , i hope you can understand me xD
lotkrotan
04-11-2007, 08:39 PM
However, we shall see soon enough when Windows Live & Xbox Live mutiplayer pools together. MS already mentioned they consider handicapping online play for PC users :mad:
If by MS you mean FASA for Shadowrun, yea, they mentioned it. Things like not being able to spin 180 degrees and stop on a dime. That goes for both console and PC, and is pretty realistic. If I spin around 180 degrees and try to shoot at something, my aim is going to be slightly off for a split second...
In dev interviews, they are saying that most of the time it's even, sometimes Xbox takes the lead, sometimes PC does. They also have it so it doesnt say if you're facing a PC or 360 user, just because it's irrelevant to gameplay.
Glottis
04-11-2007, 10:02 PM
When I play shooters on a console,well,it feels like I am using keyboard look on quake and back in the mid nineties......nuff said. ;)
Of course some like that,and who am I to say they should play it my way?
Each to thier own I guess :)
Mongchimp
04-12-2007, 12:37 PM
I will be playing on the 360. My PC was last upgraded to let me play half life 2, (which it can just about manage) but it struggled horribly with Doom3 and probably would look terrible running Bioshock.
PC is all well and good but the constant upgrading and tweaking makes it a pain in the rectum. The hardware upgrading isn't too bad really but when you have to change the OS it crosses the line. I refuse to buy/install Vista just to play a few new games and probably break my older ones. Easier just to pop a disc in the 360 and play.
As to the keyboard/mouse and controller debate, you do get used to the controller eventually and besides, how realistic is it that with the mouse you can do a mid air 720 degree spin and put a bullet in someones head half a mile away all within half a second? Personally I think a slightly slower response in controls would maybe fit the feel of Bioshock better, but that is just me.
As long as they don't insult us pad users with auto aiming that you can't disable or gimped enemies.
v.dog
04-12-2007, 05:51 PM
I'll be upgrading my PC (Stalker just runs), but I won't be buying Vista. You don't need it to Bx, so there's no need.
Realism is over-rated, a quick turn is better than being shot in the back. And if you find you're turning to fast, you can always lower the sensitivity.
Club Heaven
04-13-2007, 02:58 AM
People always whine how it's oh so exhausting and painful to upgrade. Well it sucks to be you ! I enjoy getting new components, new and clean and better pieces for my baby. I always do it when I want to, not when the industry's spitting out another 800$ useless videocard to get the fanboys wet. It's so easy to build a solid computer, you don't even have to do it all at once, just buy a component each month until you have enough.
I always enjoy it when people from rich countries complain about having to buy this and that and how oh so expensive they all are. First of all, hardware is a lot more cheap in the rest of the world than in the ass backwards country I live in, yet somehow I manage to be always up to date with technology. And my salary is sooo small compared to what people with the same job get in the rest of Europe that sometimes I just wanna lay down and die.
Raveness
04-13-2007, 03:18 AM
People always whine how it's oh so exhausting and painful to upgrade. Well it sucks to be you ! I enjoy getting new components, new and clean and better pieces for my baby. I always do it when I want to, not when the industry's spitting out another 800$ useless videocard to get the fanboys wet. It's so easy to build a solid computer, you don't even have to do it all at once, just buy a component each month until you have enough.
Completely agree :) I think it's more about cost, and frustration at dealing with options available that are essentially invisible on consoles. Finding the right balance of performance/visual quality isn't rocket science. I will concede that consoles do a lot better with stability & bug issues, due to it's one-piece hardware standard.
Look, I'm in the legal field. I haven't taken a computer course, well, ever. I don't exactly have many technically skilled friends, and I'm by far not technically sound myself. Yet I can figure out how the inner workings of the CPU work; parts can only go where there suppose to, as there is a male-female part relationship. With a little bit of research and recommendations, anyone can figure out what from what. The MOST frustration I ever experience is hooking in the damn LED's into the motherboard pins. There just such tiny plugs :p
Club Heaven
04-13-2007, 03:29 AM
Well I was also completely clueless when I started out. Now I'm like clueless + 1. So how come I shut my mouth and have a kick-ass computer too ? I guess it's something they put in the water. Makes people here more determined to succeed :p Anyway, I always said to everyone "buy a PC !" cause you can use it mainly as a learning tool and it WILL get you ahead in life if you're willing to invest time and effort in it. You're practically investing in yourself.
But better not to give any advice, people always want to learn from their mistakes and in the end, all I'll manage is to make myself look like some stuck up ******* with a superiority complex.
Mongchimp
04-13-2007, 10:20 AM
People always whine how it's oh so exhausting and painful to upgrade. Well it sucks to be you ! I enjoy getting new components, new and clean and better pieces for my baby. I always do it when I want to, not when the industry's spitting out another 800$ useless videocard to get the fanboys wet. It's so easy to build a solid computer, you don't even have to do it all at once, just buy a component each month until you have enough.
I always enjoy it when people from rich countries complain about having to buy this and that and how oh so expensive they all are. First of all, hardware is a lot more cheap in the rest of the world than in the ass backwards country I live in, yet somehow I manage to be always up to date with technology. And my salary is sooo small compared to what people with the same job get in the rest of Europe that sometimes I just wanna lay down and die.
So that is your ultimate aim? To stay up to date with technology?
Can your rig run Red alert 2 with no fuss? Can it run system shock easily? No it cannot.
Each upgrade brings fresh problems and breaks more of your cherished older software - something that does not happen with consoles. I have moved on from the endless cycle of upgrade, upgrade, full system upgrade, change OS. (I have built all of my PCs from the ground up from the days of the 486 SX-25 to the present so I am no stranger to where you are now.) Now I mostly use the computer for the internet and the 360 for games.
Enjoy your smug superiority at having a l33t 'puter. Hope it justifies the cash outlay.
But better not to give any advice, people always want to learn from their mistakes and in the end, all I'll manage is to make myself look like some stuck up ******* with a superiority complex.
Correct.
Club Heaven
04-13-2007, 12:04 PM
So that is your ultimate aim? To stay up to date with technology?
Yes. It makes my life complete and brings joy to all my friends and loved ones. Stupid unneded question. You're really in the mood to argue ?
Can your rig run Red alert 2 with no fuss? Can it run system shock easily? No it cannot.
True. But at least it can run Solitaire. Seriously, I'm not SO nostalgic as to worry about 10 year old games not being compatible with my present system. I'm a lot more interested in the future. And there's always DosBox in case I become desperate.
Each upgrade brings fresh problems and breaks more of your cherished older software - something that does not happen with consoles. I have moved on from the endless cycle of upgrade, upgrade, full system upgrade, change OS. (I have built all of my PCs from the ground up from the days of the 486 SX-25 to the present so I am no stranger to where you are now.) Now I mostly use the computer for the internet and the 360 for games.
Good for you. I only had minor problems so far, nothing very nasty to worry about. And when I will encounter some major disaster, I will find a way to solve it and move on. Because I need my PC for countless reasons.
Enjoy your smug superiority at having a l33t 'puter. Hope it justifies the cash outlay.
Thanks. It does justify the cash outlay. In fact, if it weren't for my "|33t 'puter" my family would be in very serious financial trouble.
Correct.
I guess you'd like to compete in who's better at witty little wiseass remarks. Well I'm not up for it.
Check it out! Above me! It's a nerd-fight!
Club Heaven
04-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Hi there Jeff ! Are you taking bets ?
BioShockWins
04-13-2007, 07:33 PM
even though I voted 360, I'm glad to see more people voting on PC
I was a hardcore PC veteran until now... now I r retired
webbo254
07-12-2007, 06:05 PM
Im not sure yet, I have just built my new rig with Vista Ultimate 64bit:
-Intel Core 2 Duo E4300
-Asus P5N-E SLI
-2GB Kingston DDR2 667 - Dual Channel
-BFG 8800GTS 320MB Overclocked
I have an Xbox 360 aswell, both my 360 and PC are running through my Logitech Z-5500 5.1 system. My 360 is on my 26" Samsung and my PC is on my 19" Acer. The PC version will have better graphics because of DX10 and the PC version is cheaper. So I don't know, any advice?
frhsirish
07-13-2007, 01:18 AM
Seeing as how I have a Mac, and my PC is crap, I will be going 360 all the way!
Oreic
07-13-2007, 05:50 AM
360, because 1. my Comp is a steaming pile of crap 2. I prefer shooters on consoles and last but not least I love acheivements!:D
mobutu
07-13-2007, 06:35 AM
PC all the way! :-)
lmhotep
07-15-2007, 12:42 PM
360 version will own and i wont have to wait for my slow pc to start up
TheVinster
07-15-2007, 04:15 PM
360, because 1. my Comp is a steaming pile of crap 2. I prefer shooters on consoles and last but not least I love acheivements!:D
Same for me:
1. My computer is terrible.
2. I also love shooters on the consoles, as well as Xbox Live because of the extensive network, although BioShock doesn't have multiplayer but I can still chat with my friends.
3. I, too, love achievements.
I just wish we could of had the customizable interface that the PC version will have, oh well.
webbo254
07-15-2007, 07:49 PM
Same for me:
1. My computer is terrible.
2. I also love shooters on the consoles, as well as Xbox Live because of the extensive network, although BioShock doesn't have multiplayer but I can still chat with my friends.
3. I, too, love achievements.
I just wish we could of had the customizable interface that the PC version will have, oh well.
Don't you get achievments on the PC version, because its "Game for Windows", what about Windows Live, can't you chat to people through windows live?
Hyperia
07-15-2007, 08:02 PM
<----360 here
TheVinster
07-15-2007, 08:19 PM
Pretty sure you just get achievements on "Games for Vista." Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mr. X
07-15-2007, 08:20 PM
I voted Xbox 360.
webbo254
07-15-2007, 08:26 PM
Pretty sure you just get achievements on "Games for Vista." Correct me if I'm wrong.
According to wikipedia (I know not the most reliable source) it says "Games for Windows" suppport LIVE, which means gamercard, friends messages and acievments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Windows_-_LIVE
webbo254
07-15-2007, 08:29 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Windows
Found another link with a little more info.
StudlyNerdBoy
07-15-2007, 08:48 PM
Im surprised at how 50/50 the poll is going. I preordered for 360 because I don't have a very good PC, but I prefer the PC for the keyboard and mouse. Moddding is what draws me to PC, Garry's Mod for HL2 is a great example. Im excited to see what mods will be available for Bioshock in the future.
lotkrotan
07-16-2007, 01:47 AM
Don't you get achievments on the PC version, because its "Game for Windows", what about Windows Live, can't you chat to people through windows live?
according to 2k Liz, there are no PC achievements. I think that's because this is going to be a XP game, not a Vista game...
Goddy Of War
07-16-2007, 02:40 AM
360 respekt yo :cool: :o
Oreic
07-16-2007, 02:01 PM
360 for me becauser PCs that run equal to the 360 cost alot more than 400$.
Wondermonkey2k
07-16-2007, 02:26 PM
360. Achievements and I'm a mac user, not a PC head.
AfterLife
07-16-2007, 03:03 PM
360 for me even though i can make it work on my pc with one or two upgrades.
Fuzzy OneThree
07-16-2007, 05:47 PM
My computer is a 5 year old middle-of-the-pack business computer. I sucks major balls. So I'll be going on my 360.
501105
07-17-2007, 05:17 AM
pc all the way
gamefan1978
07-17-2007, 09:25 AM
360 version.
Shoitaan
07-17-2007, 09:38 AM
I have a kickass dualcore computer with a dx10 card.. but after thinking about it for a loooooooong tmie I've decided to go with my 360 :)
Achievement points, force feedback, being able to use my couch all factored in :)
I might try and get my hands on a PC copy off one of my friends if theres a huge graphical difference.
Lack of keyboard+mouse don't bother me, I prefer the gamepad myself
Escaliot
07-20-2007, 08:26 AM
i'm playing on my 360 cause my computer sucks and i like the trigger and rumble.
Willy Killmore
07-20-2007, 07:23 PM
I would probably prefer the PC version over the 360 but since my computer would probably have an extremely hard time playing any game with system requirements higher than Pong, I'll be stuck with the old 360. I hope the damn thing doesn't break down like my last 2 360's, or I will be one unhappy gamer.:mad:
punkedfloyd
07-20-2007, 10:07 PM
I would probably prefer the PC version over the 360 but since my computer would probably have an extremely hard time playing any game with system requirements higher than Pong, I'll be stuck with the old 360. I hope the damn thing doesn't break down like my last 2 360's, or I will be one unhappy gamer.:mad:
Two of yours broke down! I have a near release one and it is fine.
killswitch5
07-20-2007, 10:15 PM
360 mkine hasnt broke yet and ive has it for a year:D
Nias Wolf
07-20-2007, 10:51 PM
360 mkine hasnt broke yet and ive has it for a year:D
I have had mine for 6 months and have not had any problems, it isn't even in a well ventilated area. Should I really be that concerned? :(
lockload
07-21-2007, 04:44 AM
Ill be getting the 360 version initially once mods start coming out ill pickup the pc version:D
chahi
07-21-2007, 05:36 AM
gonna play it on the 360. i'm one of the vast minority that prefers playing fps' with a controller. that, and i don't currently have the behemoth of a pc that the game deserves.
sfcchappy
07-21-2007, 05:43 AM
I got a 360 for this game.I never did like PC gaming.
Sandstorm
07-21-2007, 05:46 AM
The good ol 360 box. I might go get the PC after to play through with the altogether new interface and everything though. ;)
Derftron
07-21-2007, 06:42 PM
Definately PC.
punkedfloyd
07-21-2007, 06:55 PM
gonna play it on the 360. i'm one of the vast minority that prefers playing fps' with a controller. that, and i don't currently have the behemoth of a pc that the game deserves.
I like controllers. Fells like I have more control.
Oakleyfan89
07-23-2007, 09:05 PM
Xbox 360 dont have a good enough computer to run great games like this.
Shakes101
07-23-2007, 09:19 PM
Xbox360:d :d
Elite Wombat
07-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Sorry, but if you just come on here and start saying stuff like that with no proof or theories, it annoys me. But yeah, I must admit I was a little rude.
Mr. Bubbles loves his LS
07-26-2007, 05:31 PM
I'm getting it on the 360. My computer doesn't have the requirements and I don't like playing games on the PC anyway.
gold soundz
07-26-2007, 05:50 PM
PC, no question.
webbo254
07-26-2007, 06:17 PM
I have a PC and a 360, but im getting the PC version because my PC is good enough to run it at high/max settings and with DX10 support it will have better graphics, also I prefer FPS with mouse & keyboard and finally because the PC version is cheaper. :cool:
Willy Killmore
07-26-2007, 07:10 PM
Two of yours broke down! I have a near release one and it is fine.
Yep, the red ring of death and misery, twice in one year. Damn you, Microsoft!! I hate you!!:mad:
pawno
07-26-2007, 08:46 PM
I also own both a high end PC and an Xbox 360. While I love going after all those achievement points, I think I'd be crazy to pass up the superior graphics (DX 10...yay!), and mouse keyboard control for em', so I've pre-ordered the PC version.
Might buy the Xbox 360 version down the track when the game has gone to budget release (or off ebay), just because I'm a completist :D
Teknoman
07-26-2007, 08:50 PM
360 because of the simple fact that im not sure how well my PC would run Bioshock...even with the requirements lol (i've got a good pc, but a game like Bioshock needs to be experienced at the best graphic quality due to the atmosphere of the game).
GoofyAce
07-26-2007, 08:54 PM
It's odd to me that Microsoft produced games for windows are cheaper then the Xbox games since they're both DVD's with about the same thing on it and a plastic box with a booklet so where the hell does my other $10 go? Ok, since the booklet probably costs 10 cents, the box 5, and the DVD about 25 so about 40 cents for the whole package (mass produced) so 59.60 is going to Microsoft, 2K, and Irrational, and that's pretty damn good. Say it sells about 5 million copies, thats 298 million dollars, wow.
redrain85
07-27-2007, 03:54 PM
It's odd to me that Microsoft produced games for windows are cheaper then the Xbox games since they're both DVD's with about the same thing on it and a plastic box with a booklet so where the hell does my other $10 go?
Because Microsoft is still losing money on every 360 sold. It costs them more to make the 360 than they sell it for. They've got to get the money back somehow.
On the PC, Microsoft doesn't make the hardware and doesn't lose any money. So they can afford to charge less on Games for Windows titles.
Biofreak
07-27-2007, 04:14 PM
360 all the way! With PC's, the quality will vary, and it will be incredibley expensive either to maintain you comp or upgrade it to play this game. With the 360, it's not only cheaper, but the quality is gauranteed, for the exact same game. If the PC version had more, that would be another thing, but consoles have evolved to be just as competetive as comps with games and media. Another thing, it's not worth it unless you have a really good laptop, because you ca't bring a comp anywhere. Plus, the 360 has achievements, this actually makes the game more interesting, allowing you to play for a longer time without getting bored, and allows you to compare your skill with every other player on live. Try that on the PC. This is why the 360 version comes out on top.
Danderman
08-01-2007, 09:08 AM
I have to play it on the 360 or not at all, my PC has something wrong with it, it keeps crashing, i think it needs a new graphics card, coz every time it comes to some chalenging graphics or image it thinks really hard, goes into a fit and dies. So i play it on the 360 or not at all. BTW i cant buy anything to upgrade my PC coz i am so low on cash, i have to moonlight as a milkman to afford food, but my new job is going to be great with a £30,000 anual salary. :D
Flibster
08-01-2007, 10:45 AM
I have to play it on the 360 or not at all, my PC has something wrong with it, it keeps crashing, i think it needs a new graphics card, coz every time it comes to some chalenging graphics or image it thinks really hard, goes into a fit and dies.
Have you tried a re-format? Usually it solves about 98% of problems. I'm going to avoid the common cliche of asking if you have the most up-to-date drivers installed as it usually causes fury (just look at any tech support site). If you still don't have any luck then yeah, I would get it for the 360, then all you have to worry about is the dreaded Red Ring of Death.
Jiiiihad
08-01-2007, 10:57 AM
Getting it on PC, with all the eye candy on, I hope DX10 proves itself to be atleast noticeably better than DX9 on this game.
Skarm
08-01-2007, 11:06 AM
I'm not really sure. There's no word on if the controls will be customizable in the 360 version (southpaw is a must for me), and my computer is probably too weak to run it well (AMD Athlon 64 3500+, GeForce 7600 256mb, 2gb RAM). Decisions, decisions...
Havok4
08-01-2007, 11:44 AM
I am getting it for the PC as I don't have an Xbox 360 yet and I recently purchased a new high end gaming computer (It was a gift from my Parents). But Oddly enough the computer I got was different from the one I ordered, as Some how my 2.6 Ghz dual core intel processor was replaced with a 2.4 ghz quad core for no readily apparent reason.
Gamerush
08-01-2007, 11:54 AM
I hope 2 6800GSs and 2GB of ram will cut it...:p
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 07:08 PM
So, what is it? PC or Xbox 360? (If PC list system specs if you want)
As for me, I'm a die hard PC gamer only. The only console I own is a Wii... and that's for family fun type games. For me and my wife.
But I'll be playing the game on the latest PC I've built, hoping for high details at a realistic resolution. No AA as my card doesn't support AA and HDR.
Given the system specs listed, a few interviews I've read and what I read about some of the development systems... I should be able to pull it off.
WinXP SP2
AMD x2 4600+
2GB DDR2 Ram 800mhz Corsair
Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT 512MB
Creative X-FI ExtremeGamer
What about you?
SwiftyShot
08-03-2007, 07:12 PM
I think this thread has been done before, but 360 for me.
BronxBomber761
08-03-2007, 07:13 PM
Well I don't have a computer that can play any of the new games coming out for the PC and my hard drive is broken :( , so I'll be playing Bioshock for the 360.
0n3$h0t0n3ki11
08-03-2007, 07:19 PM
PC
Specs:
pentium 4 (x2) 3.00ghz (hyperthreading)
XFX 7800GT
2gb of ram
Im hoping to play on High-medium
revengematron3
08-03-2007, 07:26 PM
Xbox 360, because, personally, I prefer not having to constantly upgrade my PC (I rather spend money on the games themselves), and I also prefer a controller than a mouse and keyboard (yes, a mouse is better than an analog stick, but I'm more comfortable with a controller than a keyboard).
BioCrack
08-03-2007, 07:26 PM
well pc and 360 for me
360 for achivements
and pc for the better quality , and if my pc craps out on me
my specs
core2quad Q6600 2.4ghz
Evga 680i sli motherboard
Evga 8800gts 320mb
2 gigs of crosair xms 667 mhz ram
dextra
08-03-2007, 07:27 PM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Asus P5B Mainboard
2GB DDR2 1000 Corsair
GeForce 8800 GTS along with Windows Vista so i can rejoice in Bioshocks DirectX10ish beauty
ive upgraded my entire pc recently just for bioshock, i cant wait till it gets out!
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 07:27 PM
I think this thread has been done before, but 360 for me.
I searched back a lot of pages... but didn't find anything.
dextra
08-03-2007, 07:29 PM
i forgot to mention that my GeForce 8800 GTS runs at 640mhz
btw. why am i not allowed to edit? :*(
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Yeah, an edit button would be handy.
I'm going to play in DX9, I'm not 100% sold on Vista of DX10... and from everything I've read the only effects in BioShock that get improved any in DX10 are some smaller water effects.
That's not enough to make me want to jump to it. :)
PC all the way!
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
C2D E6700
eVGA 680I
Corsair DDR2800 4 gigs
eVGA 8800 GTX KO's (SLI)
Creative X-Fi 7.1 Sound Card
ThermalTake 850 Tough Power PSU.
chrono legionaire
08-03-2007, 07:34 PM
i forgot to mention that my GeForce 8800 GTS runs at 640mhz
btw. why am i not allowed to edit? :*(
Elizabeth wanted us to "Think before we posted" a little bit more.
BioShockWins
08-03-2007, 07:55 PM
neither... I'm just here to meet babes...
yeah, don't ask
:D
BioShockWins
08-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Yeah, an edit button would be handy.
There's always an edit button for those who know where to find it... ;)
DooDee
08-03-2007, 07:58 PM
pc
specs:
AMD 64 x2 5200+
2gig ram
8800gts
Vista Home Premium
but i didnt get vista and my 8800gts for bioshock lol i just got them for the sake of them :D
That_dude
08-03-2007, 07:59 PM
There's always an edit button for those who know where to find it... ;)
BWHAT!!?
And yes, this has been done time and time again, so...Reported.
Have to save space somehow. :)
BioShockWins
08-03-2007, 08:01 PM
cool guys
I'm gonna have 8600GT (It might not be the best, but I still like it =P)
AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+ woo! I win
3GB RAM
Electrobolt
08-03-2007, 08:02 PM
I'll be playing on my newly upgraded (especially for Bioshock) PC:
AMD X2 4200+
GeForce 8800GTS 640mb
2gb RAM
Windows XP SP2
22" Samsung LCD monitor
900Gow
08-03-2007, 08:25 PM
After much debate I have elected to play on the PC. Since my computer barely meets the minimum requirements, I have just ordered some parts to do a mini-upgrade. My new system will be:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (fastest dual core socket 939 chip I could find :( )
BFG GeForce 8600GT OC (on sale!)
2GB Corsair DDR RAM
Not spectacular by any means, but it should get the job done.
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 08:37 PM
Well acourding to a few interviews I've read, BioShock doesn't sound nearly as demanding as people first made it out to be.
Most of the development systems were 7800s, AMD x2 4400+ and 2 gigs of ram. And I read even on those the game ran incredibly well, and that was before most, if any, of the final optimizations were put in.
The game shoudl perform extremely well.
I've noticed peopel tend to over estimate game requirements. Like Crysis's build at E3... everyone assumed the game was running on a monster system. But it wasn't, running in DX10 at 1600*1200, 4xAA, full details on a single 8800, a Core 2 Duo e6600 and 4 gigs of ram.
Developers are getting much better at coding and finding new ways to cut down the resources needed. :)
Zye Hatosu
08-03-2007, 08:37 PM
360. I've never liked playing game on my PC.
Jiiiihad
08-03-2007, 08:55 PM
4GB Corsair DDR2@880Mhz
Core2Duo 6300@3.01Ghz
8800GTX 768MB@600/2000Mhz
Just happy my PC can use 5.1 sound, I haven't got any way to get 5.1 on my 360 as that was one factor in me not wanting the game on 360 even before I upgraded my PC.
Jiiiihad
08-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Most of the development systems were 7800s, AMD x2 4400+ and 2 gigs of ram. And I read even on those the game ran incredibly well, and that was before most, if any, of the final optimizations were put in.
The game shoudl perform extremely well.
Yeah PC gamer was running it maxed out on a Athlon X2 5200+, 2GB Ram and a 8800GTS in DX9 mode, it's gonna be a breeze to run the game if you have a similar setup, heck maybe even something lower than a 8800GTS will max it out. (Not including SLi as obviously some SLi configs are faster than a single 8800GTS)
Bioshock Moose
08-03-2007, 09:22 PM
Im getting the 360 version. I just think i would like it better.
MrCompletely
08-03-2007, 09:23 PM
I'll be playing on both, I have both versions pre-ordered. My laptop is a core 2 duo t2700, 2gigs DDR3 ram, geforce 7950gtx 512mb ram. I expect to run in full detail for dx9, prob at 1600
Grossman
08-03-2007, 09:28 PM
360 for me
CodeMonkey
08-03-2007, 09:29 PM
Please close this thread.
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435
The search here negates words under so many characters so searches for stuff like 360 vs pc never return anything so I use Google, e.g.
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=360+vs+pc&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=forums.2kgames.com&as_rights=&safe=images
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Yeah PC gamer was running it maxed out on a Athlon X2 5200+, 2GB Ram and a 8800GTS in DX9 mode, it's gonna be a breeze to run the game if you have a similar setup, heck maybe even something lower than a 8800GTS will max it out. (Not including SLi as obviously some SLi configs are faster than a single 8800GTS)
I remember reading that BioShock does NOT take advantage of SLI... so it's not needed for the game period.
And CodeMonkey, I didn't want to do a PC vs. 360 thread. I was just curious as to what people would be playing the game on.
I don't consider one better than the other, it's just people prefer different things.
I didn't want a comparison thread about which version was better or not.
Berserker666
08-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Soon to be Specs:
GeForce 8800 GTX
4GB OCZ Platinum RAM
ASUS P5B Motherboard
X-FI Extremegamer
Intel Core 2 Quad Q660
I'm hoping maxed settings. I'll be upgrading just before Bioshock comes out. Right now, my computer dosen't make ANY of the minimum requirments. It will soon :p
JBaums
08-03-2007, 09:50 PM
My Mac!
Filler!!!!!dsdsfcvhdfjhdf
0n3$h0t0n3ki11
08-03-2007, 09:51 PM
Well acourding to a few interviews I've read, BioShock doesn't sound nearly as demanding as people first made it out to be.
Most of the development systems were 7800s, AMD x2 4400+ and 2 gigs of ram. And I read even on those the game ran incredibly well, and that was before most, if any, of the final optimizations were put in.
The game shoudl perform extremely well.
I've noticed peopel tend to over estimate game requirements. Like Crysis's build at E3... everyone assumed the game was running on a monster system. But it wasn't, running in DX10 at 1600*1200, 4xAA, full details on a single 8800, a Core 2 Duo e6600 and 4 gigs of ram.
Developers are getting much better at coding and finding new ways to cut down the resources needed. :)
well i hope my 7800 will run it fine :D
Damien_Azreal
08-03-2007, 10:06 PM
Well, judgin by interviews I've read from Ken people with a 7 series card and up shoudl be well off to run the game at medium to high settings depending on the rest of their rig.
And I've based on performance from other games. Call of Juarez, Rainbow Six:Vegas and STALKER... I can run all at 1280*1024, maxed settings and still maintain more than 50 FPS.
And all three of those games have really poor optimizations, so if I can pull that off in poorly coded games. BioShock shoudl run very well.
redrumy3
08-03-2007, 11:39 PM
Preordered the Pc Limited Edition Version today from gamestop can't wait plan on playing it with these specs :-D
http://i80.imagethrust.com/i/1188950/sig.png
Knight
08-04-2007, 04:28 AM
X-Box 360 all the way for me. :D
deathcheckedin
08-04-2007, 01:22 PM
360 for me
paraphonatic
08-04-2007, 01:25 PM
me = PC :D
Prozessor Intel® Core 2 Quad Q6600@3600MHZ
Kühler WaKü Zalman Reserator 1 V2
Mainboard Gigabyte P965DS4
RAM Corsair DIMM 2x2 GB DDR2-800 PRO Kit
Grafikkarte Asus Geforce 8800GTX (Sli)
Soundkarte Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro
Festplatte Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 2X
Laufwerke DvD Brenner Asus DRW-1814BLT
Netzteil Thermaltake Toughpower 1000 Watt>
Gehäuse Thermaltake Kandalf LCS
Monitor 22Zoll Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
Keyboard Logitech G15
Mouse Razer Copperhead
Lautsprecher Headset
Betriebssystem Vista 64 bit (Fullversion)
Internet-Verbindung 16000 DSL
-Para
Daniel1431
08-04-2007, 03:19 PM
Xbox 360 for me! I didnt want this for the computer as the only type of games I like on the PC are The Sims and Rollercoaster Tycoon! Also you get Achievements which is also good.:D
tokubetsu
08-04-2007, 03:32 PM
More than likely Xbox 360. I'm not sure how well my PC will run it but if it works well, I'll get for PC.
CrimsonKing1990
08-04-2007, 04:19 PM
Wow. I'm surprised th 360 has the most votes.
Oceansama
08-04-2007, 04:39 PM
Going to be giving my PC the run around with this game. I can't play FPS on consoles, I need the precision of a mouse and keyboard.
Agnus Déi
08-04-2007, 05:02 PM
PC of course, cant stand playing fps on a controller.
TheColonel
08-04-2007, 05:12 PM
PC of course, cant stand playing fps on a controller.
Me too, though this may be a first for me -- I really want to enjoy Bioshock on my HDTV, so have pre-ordered the 360 version -- been practicing on other 360 FPS just to get some practice in =)
I just don't understand why the console gods that be can't design a controller setup that's more responsive -- I just can't turn and aim as quickly, so I'm always getting owned in MP on Live.
Maybe I will opt for both eventually. Finally splurged for Oblivion on the 360 after playing through it on the PC -- that was a decent port.
Damien_Azreal
08-04-2007, 05:51 PM
Wow. I'm surprised th 360 has the most votes.
Honestly I'm not. I'm a die hard PC gamer... and have been for many years. But I understand a lot of people don't have the money to put into a top end system and then upgrade it.
It's easier for some to simply lay down four hundred bucks and go with it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I just hope that those getting it on the 360 have at least heard of and played System Shock 2.
Machete7
08-04-2007, 05:55 PM
Honestly I'm not. I'm a die hard PC gamer... and have been for many years. But I understand a lot of people don't have the money to put into a top end system and then upgrade it.
It's easier for some to simply lay down four hundred bucks and go with it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I just hope that those getting it on the 360 have at least heard of and played System Shock 2.
That's exactly why I'm playing it on 360. I just don't have a spare $2000 to make a computer that could do this game justice. I would love to be able to play with the fully customizable controls of the PC, but I guess I'll have to live with the 360 version ;) .
The Hungry Platypus
08-04-2007, 11:24 PM
I gotta have keyboard+mouse controls for a shooter, so I'm getting it for PC.
But I'm also an Achievements fiend, so I'll probably pick it up for the 360 somewhere down the line, after the price has dropped.
Magic Max
08-04-2007, 11:29 PM
360 is teh best.
Baalzek
08-05-2007, 10:53 AM
360 ftw, it will look amazing with no problems that you would get with a PC. only thing different is the controls, which isnt a problem unless you suck at FPS's with a controller:D
purplerose1414
08-05-2007, 11:36 AM
X-360. It's just the cheapest option for me.
Bul1y
08-05-2007, 11:51 AM
Pc for me as i`ve just upgraded mc pc, and i suck at aiming with x-box controller
Ronin JS
08-05-2007, 12:08 PM
Honestly I'm not. I'm a die hard PC gamer... and have been for many years. But I understand a lot of people don't have the money to put into a top end system and then upgrade it.
It's easier for some to simply lay down four hundred bucks and go with it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I just hope that those getting it on the 360 have at least heard of and played System Shock 2.
Your hopes have been at least realised for me. own SS2, but I'm getting BioShock on 360.
Jiiiihad
08-05-2007, 12:16 PM
360 ftw, it will look amazing with no problems that you would get with a PC
You mean "could get with a PC" :rolleyes:
Anyhow as I said earlier, PC all the way, DX10 goodness maxed out with some extra AA will make for one hell of a visual treat, plus I can use 5.1 on my PC, can't use it on my 360, damn connectors.
louishewitt
08-05-2007, 12:35 PM
I can't play games on my pc very well so i'll play on my 360
juanmi08
08-05-2007, 12:58 PM
Xbox 360 for me!
Fernandez
08-05-2007, 03:11 PM
PS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...... .or just my 360.
dwknaisch
08-05-2007, 03:17 PM
XBIZZZZY 3SIZZZY lol i just want to make sure i dont have to update a graphix card ;) and with pc games i always accidentaly hit the windows button in the heat of battle... i know im a pc nooob
Fernandez
08-05-2007, 03:49 PM
XBIZZZZY 3SIZZZY lol i just want to make sure i dont have to update a graphix card ;) and with pc games i always accidentaly hit the windows button in the heat of battle...
That is one of the reasons (like that graphix card thing) why consoles are so mainstreem friendly.
k1bbl3
08-05-2007, 04:46 PM
I would love to play bioshock on my PC but i dont want to take the risk of buying it and it doesnt run on my computer so im taking no risks and getting it on xbox
Hitman081
08-05-2007, 05:38 PM
PC is better accuracy-wise hands down, but I prefer the 360 simply because I am more accustomed to button placement in times of fast paced action, as my keyboard coordination fails me whenever I'm trying to do 10 actions at once. Oh, and I have a 360 already, so I could get Bioshock without having to pay extra to upgrade my PC system. I wish I had some extra moonay though, as the extra accuracy on the PC would be sweet. But the thing I love about Bioshock is that if you are creative enough, you would barely have to use weapons anyways. Long live Bx! (Because its no BS)
Savage Jon
08-05-2007, 05:41 PM
360, Why bother spreading my games out my pc too.
Bioshocker23
08-05-2007, 06:53 PM
xbox 360, though i wish comp, but i wont be getting a good computer until about december, and the worst thing is i just moved into a rented house and the T.V is like 20 in.:( :( :(
900Gow
08-06-2007, 01:20 AM
Wow. I'm surprised th 360 has the most votes.
It's too bad this topic was merged with the older one. I'd like to see a more current perspective on this now that the game is nearing release.
kaMMakaZZi9
08-06-2007, 01:21 AM
Xbox 360. Wow Im surprised at all the PC players. Its almost 50/50.
solidwolf52
08-06-2007, 01:50 AM
360 is the only choice for me, my PC couldn't run this game
kaMMakaZZi9
08-06-2007, 01:52 AM
My friend is getting the PC despite having a 360. Apparantly it'll look nicer (I guess so) and the controls will be better. But I never did like Mouse and keyboard for games. I'm just a console gamer...
v.dog
08-06-2007, 02:45 AM
It's a practice thing. There's a bit of a learning curve, but once you get used to it, there's no going back.
revengematron3
08-06-2007, 03:15 AM
It's a practice thing. There's a bit of a learning curve, but once you get used to it, there's no going back.
I've been through said learning curve, and trust me, I still prefer consoles. ;)
labwarrior
08-06-2007, 04:06 AM
Read the latest interview
"we are not talking about other version at the moment" !!!!!
So, you should have a PS3 option there
SplitShift
08-06-2007, 04:09 AM
360 for me. Since I own a mac i don't have the PC option.
Jiiiihad
08-06-2007, 12:56 PM
Read the latest interview
"we are not talking about other version at the moment" !!!!!
So, you should have a PS3 option there
You're a complete and total idiot that doesn't mean there will be a PS3 version just that they might be open to the idea.
Besides, the PS3 version isn't even in development so don't expect to see it for a long time if it does get announced, even so it'll just be a port from 360 to PS3 so don't look forward to extra content.
I saw in that other thread you kept raging on about how you canceled your pre-order to get the PS3 version, enjoy the year plus wait, oh never mind make that eternity wait because it probably won't end up on PS3 so stop crying and making a big deal out of canceling your order, we don't care.
omg10avalanches
08-06-2007, 01:03 PM
i am not worried about a ps3 version because it will be at least six months before it comes out, the holiday season will be over and ps3 won't make a lot of money on it. the people that are all about the hype want the 360/pc version end of story. i personally am going with 360 because i love my 360 but yeah i am not worried about a ps3 version and no other fanboy should be either.
BalekFekete
08-06-2007, 01:05 PM
360 here, even though I have a PC more than powerful to drive the game to max details (AMD X2 4000+, 2gig DDR, twin GeForce 7950s in SLI).
Why?
Because gaming in 65" of HD goodness with 5.1 surround beats the pants off anything a 20" monitor can throw at me. ;)
B.
Camp1nCarl
08-06-2007, 02:03 PM
Xbox 360, HDTV FTW!
NinetiesKid
08-06-2007, 02:12 PM
360, I have a rubbish PC so it makes sense to play on 360 with the HDTV..
Flibster
08-06-2007, 02:23 PM
PC all the way!! I really don't get on with fps console games, this is probably because i'm so acclimatized to a PC but two analog sticks will never re-create the same feeling of control and response that a mouse can. If I get shot in the back on a 360 it always takes too long for me to turn and aim properly, this is particularly apparent on GOW but thats coming to PC this fall anyway! :)
Jiiiihad
08-06-2007, 03:02 PM
Because gaming in 65" of HD goodness with 5.1 surround beats the pants off anything a 20" monitor can throw at me. ;)
It's not hard to connect a PC to a HDTV, I connect my PC to a 42" downstairs sometimes for 1080P.
Anyway, prefer sitting at my desk, can concentrate better sitting inches away from the screen than sitting back on a sofa.
icfpny
08-06-2007, 03:09 PM
I plan on buying a 360 and HDTV mainly because of Bioshock, can't wait. I just can't afford a new PC, and the 360's game lineup for the rest of 2007 is pretty ridiculous.
kaMMakaZZi9
08-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Even if I had a decent PC to run BioShock on...I still prefer consoles for some reason. Its weird but Ive just never been into computer games (aside from Counter-Strike) which is basically the only computer game I've ever played long enough for it to matter.
The Management
08-06-2007, 03:35 PM
Xbox 360. :)
Addicted
08-06-2007, 03:37 PM
I will be playing on the 360. I would like to have an HDTV but I just dont have that kindve cash flow.
In regards to the PC, I wouldnt mind trying a game out on the PC to see how I like it but ever since I was just a young buck, like 5 or 6, I have been playing video games on consoles. I have gotten a few games for the PC (Total Distortion, Age of Empires, Roller Coaster Tycoon) but I just never really considered the PC as a viable choice in gaming options.
CrimsonKing1990
08-06-2007, 03:53 PM
Honestly I'm not. I'm a die hard PC gamer... and have been for many years. But I understand a lot of people don't have the money to put into a top end system and then upgrade it.
It's easier for some to simply lay down four hundred bucks and go with it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I just hope that those getting it on the 360 have at least heard of and played System Shock 2.
I see. Didn't think of that. I'm gettin it for the 360.
Yeah, And I've played SS2. On fourth floor right now. Part where you first see cyborg ninjas.
That_dude
08-06-2007, 06:16 PM
I see. Didn't think of that. I'm gettin it for the 360.
Yeah, And I've played SS2. On fourth floor right now. Part where you first see cyborg ninjas.
Darn you! I can't even get it to run on XP anymore. Shame, I really miss it.
900Gow
08-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Why won't it run on XP? I was thinking of reinstalling it one last time before BioShock.
Damien_Azreal
08-06-2007, 08:31 PM
Why won't it run on XP? I was thinking of reinstalling it one last time before BioShock.
It will run on XP it just takes a lot of work to get running properly.
SimplyNotThere
08-07-2007, 01:17 AM
360 FTW! I don't have enough money to always be updating my PC. Plus I just prefer a controller to a keyboard and mouse.
Jigoku
08-07-2007, 02:03 AM
Xbox 360 so that i can chat with my friend while there playing the same game or something diffrent. and maybe see who lives the longest or help ech other out if where really in a jam
Ark Malmeida
08-11-2007, 12:19 PM
360 for me - can't wait to play it from my comfortable chair in front of the big screen!
Killerbunnys
08-11-2007, 12:20 PM
360 all the way :p
markymark
08-11-2007, 12:22 PM
360 all the way. Big screen, 5.1 surround + bioshock = bliss
subjectme
08-11-2007, 12:24 PM
It's going to have to be played on the xbox 360 for me, my PC just won't run it. I only meet half the minimum specs.
A.D.A.M. Addict
08-11-2007, 12:26 PM
definately 360- so i can slob out on the sofa, in front of my new tv, with supplies and remain there for days :D
TheLastQuincy
08-11-2007, 03:57 PM
I will be definately playin BS on my 360 my pc has enough games on it as is.
bloody diarrhea
08-11-2007, 05:22 PM
my xbox has a 50" tv attached to it and a nice 5.1 surround sound system... my pc has a 21" screen and a 2.1 sound system... hmm hard choice.
downzy
08-11-2007, 05:26 PM
my pc sucks so looks like xbox although id soon rather have it for my pc it seems liek ti would be better on pc
my xbox has a 50" tv attached to it and a nice 5.1 surround sound system... my pc has a 21" screen and a 2.1 sound system... hmm hard choice.
Nice Xbox setup
Myself ill be playing on my PC, I spend rediculous amounts of money to keep it current and up to date for any of the new games that come out.
Plus, FPS games are always better for me on PC, much more control over whats happening
IdlePye
08-11-2007, 05:37 PM
360 so i can play it on my hdtv pluss my computer sux
Quemaqua
08-11-2007, 05:51 PM
My rig is showing its age somewhat, but it should still run the game with graphical fidelity equal or superior to my 360, and from what I've heard so far the PC interface is *vastly* superior to that of the 360 game because the Aussie branch worked on that exclusively for a while. A recent PC Gamer mag said this is probably the most PC-superior multiplatform title ever, which is a rather bold statement. Considering how much people are loving the 360 version, I highly doubt it's going to make that much of a difference if the PC version isn't an option for you, but if you've got the choice, it appears the wisest choice is to opt in favor of the PC version. I use the exact same sound/display setup for my 360 as I do for my PC, so this isn't even a question I have to ask, particularly with the tendency 360's have to just... break. If I can play it somewhere else, I will.
DavidR
08-11-2007, 06:00 PM
Xbox 360 for sure :)
Ell223
08-11-2007, 06:18 PM
im gonna get it on pc cos its cheaper and the mouse and keyboard is easier. Plus i have a pretty decent pc anyway, should be able to play it on high.
fiurano07
08-11-2007, 06:36 PM
I just got a new pc with more than enough hardware to crank the settings to max. Plus, it's a widescreen monitor and 5.1 surround sound.
not to mention the game is 10 bucks cheaper
scarface786
08-11-2007, 06:37 PM
360 as I dont like playing games on the PC
Yabbering Yeti
08-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Pc! I built myself a sweet rig for this kind of thing (thought its not as sweet as it once was...) so I refuse to buy a 360.