OFFICAL place to talk about a Limited Edition of BioShock

[RuneMaster70]

Yes? No? Limited edition? Special edition? Super duper edition? :cool:
Post in here your desire, if any, that Bioshock gets some cool extras included inside a special version of the game. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying a few extra Adam to get a real life replica of the Big Daddy diver helmet. jk :p

DISCUSS!!!

[Freddo]

If I remember things correctly, 2K Elizabeth said awhile ago on the TTLG forums that there are no plans on any collector's edition.

[RuneMaster70]

:( Ok, if it were done, what would people like see?

[Necros]

All I'd like to see is a detailed, long guidebook with lots of info. But hopefully it's gonna be in the normal package. :)

[jackinthebox]

Will there be a special edition of BioShock released?
We are not planning a Special Edition box set for BioShock, however, members who follow the news and participate in contests and are active in the forums will have a chance to win exclusive BioShock prizes.

that's written in the COMMUNITY Q&A on Cult of Rapture.
i think it would be nice if BioShock would be released in a nice big carton-box with a thick manual and a poster :)

[rail slave]

Or maybe a brochure that could have been presented to new arrivals.

[Komistis]

Hey, I like that one, rail slave.

I want a big concept art book for the art deco world of Rapture and its inhabitants. A Big Daddy figurine wouldn't hurt either.

[Adam Nuhfer]

Looks like the figurine will win out, sigh.......

[Maniac]

I have to say I'm happy there's not going to be a collector's edition of this game for one major reason.

There have been just too many of those recently (espessially on the 360) and it's been completely sapping funds from my meager salary already. There are some games where the gamer in me says "If I can't get the collector's edition I don't want the game" which was made painfully obvious when I found a collector's edition of oblivion last week for 40 dollars, I purchased it immediatly without question. If I had seen just "oblivion" I wouldn't have even considered the purchase.

If I had found a copy of lost planet collector's edition, I probably would've gotten that too.

-Maniac

[RuneMaster70]

I have to say I'm happy there's not going to be a collector's edition of this game for one major reason.

There have been just too many of those recently (espessially on the 360) and it's been completely sapping funds from my meager salary already. There are some games where the gamer in me says "If I can't get the collector's edition I don't want the game" which was made painfully obvious when I found a collector's edition of oblivion last week for 40 dollars, I purchased it immediatly without question. If I had seen just "oblivion" I wouldn't have even considered the purchase.

If I had found a copy of lost planet collector's edition, I probably would've gotten that too.

-Maniac
Impulse buyers FTW! ;)

[Maniac]

You sell us the game with a poster of Bio Shock. On the back of the poster, Ken and all the design team sign it. You charge like $100.00 for it. You limit it to like 1000-2500 copies. Any profit left over after costs associated with such you donate to some charity of your choice.



They did something like that when they did freedom force vs the third reich. They included with the first 500 preorders from freedomfans.com an autographed drawing of Tombstone (one of the main characters of the game) with some early tombstone artwork. The demand for those were so high they printed more (sans autograph) to cover the rest of their preorderers.

I have mine hanging on my wall (framed). I don't think they could do this though, as now they're owned by 2k games and everything they do has to be allowed by 2k.

-Maniac

[Adam Nuhfer]

Must now wait for August 21, 2007

[One0Shot]

I have never seen a CE worth the extra $10.

[$MC Blumpkin$]

i think the Gears of War CE was worth the money. There must have been 2 or more hours worth of 'making of' specials and they were pretty interesting too. But yeah, most CEs suck.

[vrap]

In his interview on the Major Nelson podcast, Ken discussed the possibility of doing a 'making of' thing on a DVD or something, showing how BioShock developed and grew into what we now know it as. That would be truly awesome, and I hope 2K supports them on that - especially as he even mentioned maybe letting us see the failed prototypes the team showed 2K in the early stages of development.

[jam777]

I have never seen a CE worth the extra $10.

I totally agree. I was never a big fan of "The making of...." type of extra content or the occasional free poster found in some CE's.

However, I did like it when a decent RPG included a cloth map. (even if it wasn't a CE) Not sure that this could be done in Bioshock's case, but some old-fashioned looking, architectural blueprints of Rapture might be pretty cool! :D

[Necros]

In his interview on the Major Nelson podcast, Ken discussed the possibility of doing a 'making of' thing on a DVD or something, showing how BioShock developed and grew into what we now know it as. That would be truly awesome, and I hope 2K supports them on that - especially as he even mentioned maybe letting us see the failed prototypes the team showed 2K in the early stages of development.
Yeah, this would be awsome. :cool: Any info on this, Elizabeth? :)

[$MC Blumpkin$]

That would be truly awesome, and I hope 2K supports them on that - especially as he even mentioned maybe letting us see the failed prototypes the team showed 2K in the early stages of development.

yeah, it would be very interesting to see the scrapped story ideas. i heard one of the initial stories involved Nazis and WW2 along with Rapture. thank god that never happened.

[Necros]

yeah, it would be very interesting to see the scrapped story ideas. i heard one of the initial stories involved Nazis and WW2 along with Rapture. thank god that never happened.
And one of the enemys on a concept art looked kinda crappy too. I didn't have high hopes for the game at that time... But then E3 came and BioShock ruled the show. :cool: :D

[Rapture_Tourist]

1. I WANT to have a Collectors Edition ;).

2. You are right that most CEs weren't worth the price. Bad examples for 360 games in my opinion were Lost Planet (even the extra map comes later for XLMP) and Perfect Dark Zero.

What I could imagine as a CE of Bioshock (both, PC and 360):

- The steelbook comes in a old an rusty design, like a part of Rapture :)
- Game DVD and Soundtrack CD
- Manual with signatures of the team
- Artbook (love the design! Everyone does!)
- A folded (printed textile?) poster of Bioshock
- A little detailed, painted figurine of a Big Daddy (look at http://www.studiooxmox.com/ to get impressions)

Soundtrack and "little" Big Daddy are surely must haves and reasons to buy a CE. I would even pay 85€ and more for it. If a CE contains good stuff, the higher price should be a small problem. I just like to have unique items, I cant download somewhere else (Wallpapers, Messenger Icons, Winamp Skins...).

I am happy with my Oblivion CE, especially with the coin. It feels like a part of the world has become real.

[Glottis]

I am in for two full copies,so thats enough for me ! :) I do not need or desire a collectors ed.

[jackinthebox]

1. I WANT to have a Collectors Edition ;).

2. You are right that most CEs weren't worth the price. Bad examples for 360 games in my opinion were Lost Planet (even the extra map comes later for XLMP) and Perfect Dark Zero.

What I could imagine as a CE of Bioshock (both, PC and 360):

- The steelbook comes in a old an rusty design, like a part of Rapture :)
- Game DVD and Soundtrack CD
- Manual with signatures of the team
- Artbook (love the design! Everyone does!)
- A folded (printed textile?) poster of Bioshock
- A little detailed, painted figurine of a Big Daddy (look at http://www.studiooxmox.com/ to get impressions)

Soundtrack and "little" Big Daddy are surely must haves and reasons to buy a CE. I would even pay 85€ and more for it. If a CE contains good stuff, the higher price should be a small problem. I just like to have unique items, I cant download somewhere else (Wallpapers, Messenger Icons, Winamp Skins...).

I am happy with my Oblivion CE, especially with the coin. It feels like a part of the world has become real.

a steelbook in rusty design: stalker is going to be released in such a package... i already pre-ordered it^^ if BioShock would also be released in rusty design i'd have 2 great games in cool design in my shelf :)

Manual with signatures of the team: it would have to be a very limited version of the game... i don't think Ken Levine has time to sign 15000 copies of a manual XD

A folded (printed textile?) poster of Bioshock: THAT'S IT! a textile poster with the BioShock-logo on it... i would die for this item :D

i totally agree with Rapture_Tourist: a collectors edition is a must have!

[Shake Appeal]

I'm sorta hoping the basic manual is in the form of a Rapture tour guide, replete with 50s nostalgia.

[pn18]

If you plan a CE/LE, why don't you make a comic? A comic in the bioshock scenario would somewhat fit together. Force Frank Miller to draw such a comic. Force him to do so!!11 :D


btw: hi jack

[Rapture_Tourist]

Manual with signatures of the team: it would have to be a very limited version of the game... i don't think Ken Levine has time to sign 15000 copies of a manual XD


Well, uh, that's right of course :). But I saw a CE where signatures of the team were printed on the manual...so not really written personally. You can doubt if it makes any sense then, but that manual differed from the normal one, even with "virtual" signatures.

[Newbeing]

The tin case that it comes in should be rusted. Like actually encrusted with horrible rust, so that when I cut myself on it my Jaw instantly locks up. I get leave from work and that way I can just play Bioshock all the time.

Seriously though, there has to be a reason why they wouldn't release a collectors set. If they do fine, but if not they must have some rhyme or reason.

[Shake Appeal]

I suppose collectors' editions are probably suggested or okayed by Microsoft, and are reserved for titles they think are going to really going to be highly successful in sales terms. Perhaps Bioshock doesn't quite fit the profile of a Gears of War or a Lost Planet or a Halo 3.

[Rapture_Tourist]

I suppose collectors' editions are probably suggested or okayed by Microsoft, and are reserved for titles they think are going to really going to be highly successful in sales terms. Perhaps Bioshock doesn't quite fit the profile of a Gears of War or a Lost Planet or a Halo 3.

I think that 2K has nothing to do with Microsoft, since 2K is a publisher on its own. And I think that Bioshock indeed is a Blockbuster...its no Halo or hyped Gears of War, but it is really a big number in the biz.

[jam777]

I wonder if they'll offer different types of box art? Similar to what Valve did when they released Half-life 2. :rolleyes:

I've seen some ball-point pens that were in the shape of syringes. They could include these in the CE box. It could be filled with some red acrylic to look like blood. Or maybe even some red carbonated liquid to get a bubbling effect.

[Lucas78]

Well, dunno about the CE, but I REALLY hope that, beside your average instruction manual, they also include a "in-character" manual, like Origin used to do with the Ultima and Wing Commander saga, or BIS with Fallout, giving you a tour of Rapture and stuff like that.

[DSroyU DOW]

how bout no colletor edition for regular people but 1 for members... i kno that woul;d probubly not happen but it b nice no doubt

[Necros]

That wouldn't be fair.

[Rapture_Tourist]

*push*

@Irrational: Is the last word already spoken?

[borgdrone89]

Well, dunno about the CE, but I REALLY hope that, beside your average instruction manual, they also include a "in-character" manual, like Origin used to do with the Ultima and Wing Commander saga, or BIS with Fallout, giving you a tour of Rapture and stuff like that.

hey! I have a wing commander manual (it's alike a future magazine type thing showing how to be an ace pilot) and a couple of doublesided sheets of blueprints lying around my house!! the blueprints have fighters on them. rlly cool to look at. :D (of course, the original WC wouldn't work on my vista, letalone on XP..

i seriously doubt they wont release a CE, as the petition has fulfilled its requirements quite sufficiently...

[nmrahde]

I've got both those Fallout Manauls, they're great.

The manual for Carmageddon looks like a (blood spattered) driving manual
The manual for Interstate 76 (original not the Arsenal edition) looks like a car parts catalog.

The GTA 3 PC manual was a good idea (its an actual bound book thats suppose to be a guidebook), however grey ink on black backgrounds abound throughout.

What would a BioShock manual look like? (Is there a thread on this already? Someone want to make one?)

[Rapture_Tourist]

Ok, lets say the Collectors Edition of Bioshock would include some really really cool items. Collectable and unique indeed. Real hot stuff!

How much money would you pay extra compared to the standard version?

If you participate voting here, we maybe can help 2K setting up a price tag. The price tag might decide what can be inside of the CE. I guess: The more we are willed to pay, the bigger the content gets.

This is done privately and is NOT connected with 2K Games. This might not directly influence how the the CE will look like. It is just us, helping 2K with decisions.

[Big_Daddy]

Dont understand German money but In UK money, I would pay about £20 more than usual price.

Big Daddy Figure please :p

[Rapture_Tourist]

Dont understand German money but In UK money, I would pay about £20 more than usual price.

Big Daddy Figure please :p

£20 are about 30€ :)

I made € and $ equal, because currency conversion doesn't count for retail prices really.

[pn18]

whatever they say

[Hatesink]

According to amazon.co.uk BioShock's RRP is £34.99, and they're selling it for £25.99

...which, if you added £20 to it would make an RRP of £54.99

The RRP for the special edition Stalker tin is £34.99 and they're selling at Amazon.co.uk for £24.98 (only £8 more than the standard edition).

Personally I'd never want to pay over £34.99 for a game, regardless of what you get with it.

Also— generally speaking, these things don't really hold their value. It's only really the special editions of adventure games that increase in value. Unless the stuff in the pack is really worth the extra, really it's probably not worth paying a great deal more than you'd pay for the standard edition.

Considering that the Resident Evil Chainsaw Controller (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Resident-Evil-Chainsaw-Controller-PS2/dp/B000A6Q9W2/ref=sr_1_2/203-1269320-6479123?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1175196209&sr=1-2)is only £8.99, I think anything much over £34.99 is just going to be too overinflated.
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000A6Q9W2.02.PT02._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Click for an alternative idea: This I wouldn't mind paying extra for (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3591&postcount=5) ...or This (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3593&postcount=7)

[jackinthebox]

it really depends what would be inside... if it would include a cloth poster within a steel case (everything in art deco plz^^), then i couldn't resist paying a horrible amount of money ;)

[karmeck]

i pay about 800$ for Prey CE (inport) so just thro thos hight prices at me, I can take them.

[Gabby_Hayes]

My personal preference is for cool stuff inside a collector's edition.

I'd rather have the collector's edition budget be spent on some Working Designs level goodie mayhem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_designs

An original soundtrack along with an artbook would definately be worth my coin.

I'd slam down 20 bucks more for a 6' by 8' full color, or hell black and white if it would mean more pictures, artbook and an original soundtrack.

My ideal CE packaging would be within budget yet spiffy and an eye catching means of top dollar sales. Not so interested in a lunch box prop. That being said if it was a Plasmi-Quik tin I'd be swinging wrenches to reach the head of the line until mall security finally subdues me. :D

[2K Elizabeth]

Hey guys,

Please keep all Limited Edition talk in this thread. I'll be closing/merging anything else to try and confine the mayhem I am sure will ensue.

Thanks!

Lady of Rapture who is too young to be your mom

[2K Elizabeth]

Also, I am closing any poll threads about this topic, and will refer you all to the CoR front page to vote.

[Adam Nuhfer]

Lady of Rapture who is too young to be your mom


Your never to young that you can't be our Rapture Mom. :)

[Psyclone]

Holy crap, I can't believe was the first voter!

I voted for the posters. I figure everyone will vote for the figurine, so might as well put it in second place.

[Necros]

I don't care about figurines, let the kids play with them... :p :D

What I'd like to see:
- artbook
- special designed Case
- soundtrack (on CD/DVD/via Download)
- special DVD (with Making Of, Behind The Screens, Trailers, Interviews, Wallpapers, Avatars...)
- a guide for Rapture :cool: (detailed info about everything, well crafted map...)

I'm curious about the publisher's/devs' response now. :)

[Rapture_Tourist]

@Elizabeth: I give it in your hands :). I just wasn't sure how you will handle it now (Ask us, decide on your own).

I like to see the following inside of the Limited/Collectors Edition:

- Steelcase/Case with special design - Why? Even the case is unique and can decorate your room

- Soundtrack of the game (CD) - Why? If music is good, you listen to it more often. It's content, which may last for the long run.

- Big Daddy figurine/ BB and LS diorama - Why? It's nothing you can download somewhere, you can't buy it around the corner. And its decorative :). Many people see the Big Daddy as Bioshock's mascot.

- Cloth Bioshock poster - Why? Hard to print on your own, decorative, unique.


Special DVD/Making Of Documentory is nice, too, but to be honest: How often do you watch it? Apart from that, some people put it online (illegally) anyway. Other people then watch things, you have paid for.

Artbook - Nice to look at, but how long do you have fun with it? Artwork could also be shown online or in the game's credits or inside of the game (Menu "Artworks").

Seems like all people want to have a special designed box: How should it look like in your opinion?

[StrangeEarth]

My ideal CE packaging would be within budget yet spiffy and an eye catching means of top dollar sales. Not so interested in a lunch box prop. That being said if it was a Plasmi-Quik tin I'd be swinging wrenches to reach the head of the line until mall security finally subdues me. :D

That would be so damn cool to have the CE package look like a Plasmi-Quik, or the big daddy helmet!!

[pn18]

That would be so damn cool to have the CE package look like a Plasmi-Quik, or the big daddy helmet!!

GENE-BANK, GENE-BANK! http://www.gamestar.de/community/gspinboard/images/smilies/teach.gif

[LastGiantRobot]

A unique case, both in design and material, is necessary in order for the special edition to stand out. When a person buys it they should *know* that they are getting more the usual "hey we threw in a poster for an extra ten bucks". Metal ones like the GOW one are a nice idea but I do not think we should go all out and make a Big Daddy helmet version like Halo 3 is doing with its legendary edition. I do not think the cloth poster/art would be worth it, but that is more in the estimation of what our collective significant others would say if they saw it hanging on the wall... but the figurine would be cool just from the stand point that most games do not give figurines out but instead rely on third parties to make them and sell them. What would make the BioShock collectors edition stand out is to make it feel like it came from the alternative era that it is trying to depict. Have the case have rivets and leather binding, have the instruction manual be printed on yellowed rice paper (I do not even know if they make it anymore). A nice little extra could be pamphlets advertising Rapture sent out to the preorders of the collectors edition along the lines of the pamphlets that Dead Rising did for its ads. They looked like pamphlets for the fictional mall in the game but also showed off the game. Please excuse my run on sentences but I really am excited about this game and its potential.

[Big_Daddy]

I want a really cool looking Poster to go up in my room, Possibly some sort of Model Gene-Bank, Or a Big Daddy figure, And ofcourse a special DVD with Interviews, Trailers, Behind the scenes Etc.:cool:

[Rapture_Tourist]

I have to say that the Halo 3 helmet is a nicea idea, but the material quality makes it look cheap. I more dislike it, although the idea/motive is creative.

When we talk about how the Limited Edition should look like, I prefer a "Rusty steel" motive, which looks like a relict of Rapture (slim DVD metal case). Otherwise I prefer something, which looks like made of leather/wood (Like the WoW CEs).

But in the end, I always prefer unique items (Big Daddy model) and long time fun (soundtrack/poster) instead of great materials (game manual made like a book, "leather case").

[ffanxii4ever]

hey, I want a steel case, A big daddy figurine, and a cloth poster
and I don't care about no price, ill pay $20 more for it if it has those three things

[v.dog]

There is now an OFFICAL place to talk about a Limited Edition of BioShock (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3610#post3610).

[human]

As I'm sure you all know, Elizabeth has stated there will be a Bioshock Limited Edition. Elizabeth has been nice enough to allow our own input as to what we would like to see in such an edition. The choice are:

Soundtrack CD
Artbook
Big Daddy figurine
"Making of" DVD
BioShock posters
Upgraded packaging
Art print with team's signatures

So far, a "Big Daddy" figurine leads the polls, followed by the "making of" dvd and the artbook.

I'd like to personally ask the fans, and forum community what they prefer and why?

A question for Elizabeth : Must we be limited to one answer?

I personally favor knowing how a game or project was developed. As so I admire all the artwork that went into developing such projects as well as appreciate being invited behind the scenes as to how things were done from start to finish.

Not to compare with other developers, FEAR's limited edition came with a "making of" DVD. Although I was very happy to see it there, it was low on content and left me feeling ripped off.

Valve has also been including commentary and behind-the-scenes look on how their games were developed and also released an art book devoted to the half life franchise, as well as some of the more popular mods.

What I'm getting to is that ideally, id like to see an art book and a dvd. However since I'm only allowed to vote for one, I choose the "making of" DVD provided it be filled with a fair amount of content. Its understandable that a DVD full of content could take more time and work, but if the DVD is going to be half-asses, it shouldn't be in the poll. Not that I expect this to the be case from the development team.

If the art book looses the poll would there be a chance of it being published anyways for later purchase?

Being a 3d art major myself I find it beneficial and inspiring to see how everything is made, to see what went through everyone's mind while bringing their creation to life.

Anyways thats my personal opinion. As much as I'd love to have a big daddy toy, the art work and behind the scenes content makes me feel like i was there for the ride from start to finish and really invited to be a part of it.

-Human

[Hatesink]

My 2 cents...

I prefer a "Rusty steel" motive, which looks like a relict of Rapture (slim DVD metal case).That would be really cool. If it looked like it had been unearthed by some diving expedition in the year 2007, and brought to the surface from the ruins of Rapture.

I think it'd be good the size of a DVD-case, and maybe it could look a little like some kind of tablet, so that it feels compact and well-balanced and good to hold (maybe almost like a weathered pebble motif), although I'm not sure how you'd fit all the stuff into it if it were that size.

Plus, if the regular edition is going to be divided accross several CDs, the game in the special edition package should definitely be on a single DVD.

Edits from other threads:

I'd like a disc with cuts and outtakes. Missing levels early builds etc. so that I can tour and explore

An extra disc with that kind of playable content, and with a 'practice level'/Rapture weapons-testing facility, where you can try out the plasmids etc. cut from the final edit of the game. Maybe show some of the stuff that eventually wasn't implemented, as it would have worked in real time (e.g. Side-effects to the character etc.)

(I would have liked to have been able to unlock the demonstration prototype they showed during the Riddick developer commentary. That would have been excellent.)
Although I don't like the colour scheme, I like the design of the Stalker tin in as much as it seems you can slip off the plastic slipcase and have a relatively clean tin (i.e. without version & format information or company logos etc.). Something similar with the BioShock collector's edition would be cool.

[Rapture_Tourist]

Welcome to the boards ;)! Nice post....but wrong place :).

Please look here: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229

I think it was limited to one selection at the poll, because otherwise everyone would have said "Hey, why not everything mentioned here?!". You will have to make the choice for your personal most wanted. My guess: Most Wanted 1 to 4 will make it.

[human]

Ahh you're right. I spent time looking for it Im not sure how i couldve missed it. Thanks

[human]

Hey Elizabeth. I completely missed this official thread and created another here (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232) by mistake. My sincere apologies. Feel free to get rid of it to avoid confusion.

Two questions for you Elizabeth: Are we limited to one choice? Which would you choose and why?

I personally favor knowing how a game or project was developed. As so I admire all the artwork that went into developing such projects as well as appreciate being invited behind the scenes as to how things were done from start to finish.

Not to compare with other developers, FEAR's limited edition came with a "making of" DVD. Although I was very happy to see it there, it was low on content and left me feeling ripped off.

Valve has also been including commentary and behind-the-scenes look on how their games were developed and also released an art book devoted to the half life franchise, as well as some of the more popular mods.

What I'm getting to is that ideally, id like to see an art book and a dvd. However since I'm only allowed to vote for one, I choose the "making of" DVD provided it be filled with a fair amount of content. Its understandable that a DVD full of content could take more time and work, but if the DVD is going to be half-asses, it shouldn't be in the poll. Not that I expect this to the be case from the development team.

If the art book looses the poll would there be a chance of it being published anyways for later purchase?

Being a 3d art major myself I find it beneficial and inspiring to see how everything is made, to see what went through everyone's mind while bringing their creation to life.

Anyways thats my personal opinion. As much as I'd love to have a big daddy toy, the art work and behind the scenes content makes me feel like i was there for the ride from start to finish and really invited to be a part of it.

All that being said all the matters to me personally is the content. Flashy cases are cool, but I'm sure others can agree that aesthetics don't make it worth the buy if the content isn't there.

Thanks Elizabeth for allowing us to provide some input and I look forward to the games release, and perhaps a full blown art book?:)

[v.dog]

I don't care about figurines, let the kids play with them... :p :DI think a pewter figurine of a BD would be cool. it's not something you 'play with'.What I'd like to see:
- artbook
- special designed Case
- soundtrack (on CD/DVD/via Download)
- special DVD (with Making Of, Behind The Screens, Trailers, Interviews, Wallpapers, Avatars...)
- a guide for Rapture :cool: (detailed info about everything, well crafted map...)
That's a good list. If they can't include all that, tho', the guidebook would be the thing to keep.

[Hatesink]

Maybe if they were the size of 28mm Ral Patha, Grenadier or Citadel miniature figurines, and produced to appear as if they'd been professionally painted to a really high standard. That could be really cool.

[Hatesink]

- a guide for Rapture :cool: (detailed info about everything, well crafted map...)That's an excellent idea. Maybe a brochure advertising Rapture to a potential resident. I'd pay extra for a whole introductory kit with maps, flyers etc., like a pen & paper role-playing box set. The essential kit to acclimate and orient you to your new home...

Welcome to Rapture...

(but it would have to be glossy)

In a metal box that looked like it'd been excavated from rapture all these years later. Kind of like an orientation pack given to the residents. It's a shame it can't have 'Rapture' on the front instead of BioShock. Maybe it could have a slipcase with 'BioShock', but when you take the box out it has 'Welcome to Rapture' embossed on the front.

[Rapture_Tourist]

What about a artbook, which is a manual at the same time and offers strategy guide hints in the backside? It looks like a Welcome guide for...Rapture tourists :)

[Jeff]

I've been paying close attention to bioshock for a very long time now and have converted several sony fanboy's either right over to 360 or back to PC specifically for this game.

I say that because since the very first time I saw a big-daddy I was thinking "I must have one of those in toy form", I collect a lot of stuff like this, ranging from family figures to signed dogma jay and silent bob figures to halo figures, and I appreciate figures and smaller collectibles much more than posters for the simplest reason; There is always room for more figures, and I currently only have room for one or two more posters (although I would gladly sacrifice one of current posters for a bioshock L.E. print)

If I was going to suggest anything for the look of the case, I might suggest modelling it after the plasmi-quik's (can't remember the current name at the moment for some reason) because it not only follows the architecture and theme of the surroundings of rapture, but it's also a glimpse inside the theme of the game itself, beyond that a plasmid station would display amazingly well.

One final note, if it's decided that a big-daddy figure is to be included, please do not half-ass it and go with a 3.25" figure, 5" at the very least please. Oh and as a former employee of Toy's R' Us, I can tell you that Todd McFarlane and his company do ----AMAZING---- work with figures, the quality and detail is second to none and I'm sure he'd be super-stoked to work on something like this.

[GhostOfRapture]

-Big Daddy figurine would be great. I'm learning 3ds max so i'd love to be able to model a Big Daddy from an official figurine!
-Letter of acceptance/invitation to Rapture with the dev team's signatures. This can be in extremely limited and numbered quantities or only for Cult of Rapture members as a membership perk???
-Rusted steel case that looks like its been forgotten and damaged by water...

[Hatesink]

One final note, if it's decided that a big-daddy figure is to be included, please do not half-ass it and go with a 3.25" figure, 5" at the very least please. Oh and as a former employee of Toy's R' Us, I can tell you that Todd McFarlane and his company do ----AMAZING---- work with figures, the quality and detail is second to none and I'm sure he'd be super-stoked to work on something like this.Personally I'd prefer a set of Big Daddy gaming miniatures, but if you did include a figure of 5" or more, maybe the case could be designed so as to show the figure, and if it's not wildly expensive maybe it could be in the bottom corner facing out at an angle so that it displays either head on or side on (so that you can still see it when it's on the shelf with all your other games.)

What about a artbook, which is a manual at the same time and offers strategy guide hints in the backside? It looks like a Welcome guide for...Rapture tourists :)I'm kind of biased against those kinds of things. I like them, but I'd much prefer something supplemental, like a mock-up of a Rapture welcome-pack.

[Apostate]

Oh man, art book or soundtrack?

I went with soundtrack because I am sort of a music junkie. The bits of music I've heard in the trailers or on the official website have been very enticing--it seems the sound design here is going beyond simple ambience, although that's cool, too.

If I didn't caaaaaaare more than woooords can saaaaay
If I didn't caaaaare, would I feeeel this waaaay?

[Rapture_Tourist]

I am also a soundtrack freak. Soundtracks I have or parts via iTunes:

- Kameo: Elements of Power
- Lineage 2
- Pirates of the Caribbean
- Last Samurai
- The Island
- Gladiator
- Fable
- Silent Hill 2
- Star Wars Episode 1
- Final Fantasy XI
- Final Fantasy X
- Final Fantasy - Spirits Within
- Men in Black
- Batman
- Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
- Zelda
- Hitman
.....

Bioshock must be next :)

[purplerose1414]

Oh...I want a soundtrack and an artbook..but Soundtrack if I had to chose. But I love the idea of a Rapture welcome kit or something like that. I hope even if the figurine is the highest they think of adding something else with it though.

[Silent Film]

I voted 'Making of' DVD. I'm not so much interested in trinkets and stuff like that, but it's obvious most want a Big Daddy. :D

I'd most like to see something that offers an insight into the development / creative process that went into the game and explains the design rationale. Whether that be in book or video form, or even in-game as a dev commentary I don't mind. It's something I'm particularly interested in considering Bioshock is a game that's attempting to push the envelope.

I really liked the 'Raising the Bar' publication for HL2, although I think that was a separately sold item.

[Fireman]

Man, I sure would like a Collector's Edition. I usually buy the Collector's editions for the game I look forward to most, and this year, this ones the one. Maybe some maps and sutff, but id like some Ironic Rapture Adverstisements, those would be cool.

[Hatesink]

I'd like that too— on colour plates. Maybe colour plates instead of an art-book (although I guess that suggestion's not going to make me too popular ;))

[Laser Eyes]

A making of DVD would be fantastic - interviews with the dev team and producers, concept art etc. Have a look at the STALKER bonus DVD. I haven't finished it yet. It seems short on behind the scenes interviews but it has a wealth of background material on the Chernobyl incident.

Elizabeth, pLease, please confirm the BioShock Limited Edition will be released in all territories. 2K are still in my bad books for releasing the Prey CE only in the US.

[^ilovebioshock!]

My 2 cents...

That would be really cool. If it looked like it had been unearthed by some diving expedition in the year 2007, and brought to the surface from the ruins of Rapture.

I think it'd be good the size of a DVD-case, and maybe it could look a little like some kind of tablet, so that it feels compact and well-balanced and good to hold (maybe almost like a weathered pebble motif), although I'm not sure how you'd fit all the stuff into it if it were that size.

Plus, if the regular edition is going to be divided accross several CDs, the game in the special edition package should definitely be on a single DVD.

Edits from other threads:

i want like a journal or diary inside with all the other stuff you guys have said but the journal is by a resident of rapture explaining how he/she lived before and during the genetic mutation thing

[Hatesink]

Click this link for the official Limited Edition discussion thread:

OFFICAL place to talk about a Limited Edition of BioShock (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3610#post3610)

[Hatesink]

Man, I sure would like a Collector's Edition. I usually buy the Collector's editions for the game I look forward to most, and this year, this ones the one. Maybe some maps and sutff, but id like some Ironic Rapture Adverstisements, those would be cool.I'd like that too— on colour plates. I'd prefer colour plates to an art-book (although I guess that suggestion's not going to make me too popular ;))

[witch]

For the love of god, a soundtrack cd please!

and...maybe some behind the scenes videos....:rolleyes:

[Glottis]

Hey guys,

Please keep all Limited Edition talk in this thread. I'll be closing/merging anything else to try and confine the mayhem I am sure will ensue.

Thanks!

Lady of Rapture who is too young to be your mom



I just signed using my real name,and it is now upto the following,I think its a done deal !!! :D I will get my wife to sign at 3:30 am when she gets home from work !

16467 Signatures Total


They need a soundtrack cd to be included and maybe a making of the game like they did with FEAR.
maybe a comic book / and or a graphic novel as well ?

[Jeff]

I've been paying close attention to bioshock for a very long time now and have converted several sony fanboy's either right over to 360 or back to PC specifically for this game.

I say that because since the very first time I saw a big-daddy I was thinking "I must have one of those in toy form", I collect a lot of stuff like this, ranging from family figures to signed dogma jay and silent bob figures to halo figures, and I appreciate figures and smaller collectibles much more than posters for the simplest reason; There is always room for more figures, and I currently only have room for one or two more posters (although I would gladly sacrifice one of current posters for a bioshock L.E. print)

If I was going to suggest anything for the look of the case, I might suggest modelling it after the plasmi-quik's (can't remember the current name at the moment for some reason) because it not only follows the architecture and theme of the surroundings of rapture, but it's also a glimpse inside the theme of the game itself, beyond that a plasmid station would display amazingly well.

One final note, if it's decided that a big-daddy figure is to be included, please do not half-ass it and go with a 3.25" figure, 5" at the very least please. Oh and as a former employee of Toy's R' Us, I can tell you that Todd McFarlane and his company do ----AMAZING---- work with figures, the quality and detail is second to none and I'm sure he'd be super-stoked to work on something like this.

just to add onto this, some behind the scenes, making of, maybe some info on the development team, just a mish-mash extra-content CD along with the big-daddy figure would be perfect. don't wanna be too greedy but I'd love to see more of the making of bioshock, but that figure is sooooooo appealing... :(

[nmrahde]

- Cloth Bioshock poster - Why? Hard to print on your own, decorative, unique.

I was initially thinking the same thing but would cloth really fit the whole motif?

What about BioShock postcards done in the whole 50's art deco style? I remember (I think) a loading screen of one of the FO games that had a postcard style to it and looked really nice.

What about a catalog of things that are available to purchase in Rapture (pre-fall obviously)

...just basically anything that helps me forget it's not a real place.

Figures would be nice, but that's something that I'd like to see McFarlane quality on (think the Legacy of Kain statues they did), but I think it'd be unlikely to convince execs to shell out that kind of cash pre-release when it's not an existing/proven series (not technically anyway)

So yeah...
-special case
-Rapture postcards
-Rapture catalog
-would it be possible to make the DVD look like one of the discs? (that may be in store for the regular version even)

Edit: I messed up trying to quote the first time, sorry about that.

[v.dog]

Didn't you see the link in my previous post?

@The Lady Previously Known As Rapture Mum*: Can you please change the link colour to something easier to spot? Maybe make the links the 'visited' red (if not a bit brighter), and the visited links a darker shade?

*Where I'm from, we speak proper English. ;)

[Fireman]

You know, this is going to sound dumb, but I think a well done plasmid machine, that spits out gumballs could be cool. If it was made of good materials and had a cool feel, that might be something nice to have...

[nmrahde]

@v.dog & Hatesink

Pewter figures are a great idea. I'd shell out for those too. (Plus I could use 'em for IK...)

[Necros]

I think a pewter figurine of a BD would be cool. it's not something you 'play with'.
That playing thing in my comment was a joke. ;) Maybe you've missed the smiley. :)

[Laser Eyes]

Another request. Could we have a convenient container for the disc or discs? Some of us don't have much space and those double width DVD cases take up a lot of space. I would love to see the game DVD and any bonus DVD come in a jewel case or a single width DVD case. If the CE contents require a larger box then the disc container could be inside a larger box/steel case. Please no paper sleeves (how cheap that is). Also no rubber grommet glued on the tin lid (the disc comes loose).

[Varshes]

Just wanted to say thanks to 2K Elizabeth and the folks at 2K Games for making this all possible.

I voted for the soundtrack, I love my music, and the dark setting of BioShock is sure to bring some nice dark ambiance. Hopefully it makes it... :)

[jackinthebox]

that vote is really hard, i like all the things :D
thread should me merged with this one (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229)...

[takymen]

did they decide if it was gene bank or plasmi-quick?:confused:

[jackinthebox]

did they decide if it was gene bank or plasmi-quick?:confused:

no... pn18 was just joking :P call it whatever you like at the moment ;)

[takymen]

I think plasmi-quick sonds better...:D

[takymen]

what do you think?

[jackinthebox]

there is a poll (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124&highlight=plasmi)for this topic...

[takymen]

thanks...:)

[Big_Daddy]

Vote at Cult of Rapture.

Link (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/updates.html)

Thanks Elizabeth :D

[BioSHOCKER]

Hey 2k Elizabeth, it is really great that you were able to convince them to release a Limited Edition and for both the 360 and PC (I will be getting both for sure) but what about including System Shock and System Shock 2 for people to play? There may be those who have never played them or have seen some of the influence that BioShock comes from. I think alot of people would really like that! If not on the Xbox 360 version (which would be great) at least on the PC Version, though it would great if they were included on both!

[Shake Appeal]

the figurine would be nice but potentially costly from 2K's point of view. 'Making of' DVDs are almost universally disappointing, not to mention time-consuming for the team. I like the idea of the artbook, but in the end I voted for soundtrack, because from what I've heard Bioshock's audio is impeccable and it has the most obvious immediate value of the various choices for me, while being relatively low-cost from the publisher's point of view. ideally we'd get updated packaging too: a tin box painted to look like it's rusted and peeling, with just the logo (all the information/screenshots etc. can be put on a plastic sleeve as with the Gears of War limited edition tin). also the manual for the Bioshock LE should be in the form of a 'Welcome to Rapture' tour guide booklet.

[D'Sparil]

Jack should be a moderator too... I've lost count how many times you've pointed stuff like this out and helped to direct people to already existing topics....

[2K Elizabeth]

Hey guys, checking in to let you know we are reading all your posts here, and collecting all the info that's spread out verywhere else, as well. There's a boatload! I may be quiet in the next couple days as I'm working hard to get you what you want, but we're listening.

And thank you for the support. It's astounding.

[D'Sparil]

Thanks for listening. That honestly kinda amazed me how quickly it got going once the wheels were in motion...

[Rapture_Tourist]

@Elizabeth: As I posted before - www.studiooxmox.com

Maybe they are a good partner for the Big Daddy figurine. Their focus is on bigger statues, but maybe smaller prototypes are good, too. They work in Germany and Australia afaik.

They have worked with big partners like Epic games (5 m statue at last year's GC!), EA Games, Nintendo, THQ, Eidos, Ubisoft, Sony, DC Comics, Vivendi Universal and....Take 2/2K already.

[SurlyAardvark]

I'd love to have a soundtrack included in the CE. I don't know that it's ever been done before, has it? That inclusion would be well worth extra expense!

Of course, the steel case (rather expected for a CE nowadays)
with "worn" and "rusty" accents would be cool, too.

Likewise, the idea of the instruction booklet laid out in the spirit of a "How To" guide to Rapture's new residents would extend the ambience past the screen, a la Fallout.


I'm just pleased that it's being done. From all evidence, the game certainly deserves and will support such a Collector's Edition.

[Rapture_Tourist]

By the way: I assume we are talking about a painted Big Daddy figurine, aren't we?

Unpainted metal is not that sexy - what do you think?

[Hatesink]

@BioSHOCKER— I think EA have the rights to the System Shock series, so it's (unfortunately) unlikely that they'd be able to include any System Shock branded items in the edition :/

What about BioShock postcards
That would be cool. A postcard from Rapture: "Wish you were here..." ;)

What about a catalog of things that are available to purchase in Rapture (pre-fall obviously)I was thinking a similar thing, and maybe there could be a black market price-list written out on the back page (maybe on an advert with lots of white-space), Kind of like a 'pre-fall' and 'post-fall' price chart (but I guess room on the page might be an issue if there's are a lot of items that can be bought, plus we don't know if prices in the game might change depending on location or circumstances etc.)

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Ideas I think are cool, from the Bioshock Anticipation Forum:

What I'd most like to see -- and what isn't on the poll -- are pamphlets or brochures written and visually composed in the Rapture style as if they were real informational pamphlets available in Rapture [...] written as if they were documents of the world rather than manuals for a game. [e.g.] Homeworld had a fantastic, thick manual with glossy pages which presented backstory as a historical text and provided tactical advice in a kind of story involving commanders in the Homeworld game world [...] Rich game world material like this is what I would most like to see in the limited edition release.

...an issue of a Rapture life-style magazine. Rise of the Dragon (whoever remembers this game) had a little magazine mock-up, complete with ads. I loved that.

...I'd love to see a tongue-in-cheek "Rapture Survival Guide" that would ostensibly be used as a guidebook but ends up being actually somewhat useful.That could be really cool. As if the people marketing/recruiting for rapture wrote it that way as kind of an ironic joke, not realising how ironic it would actually become (that would have kind of a Fallout feel to it).

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I voted for a signed art print (screen print?), but it looks like the Big Daddy figurine is outstripping everything else by far.

Maybe there could be kind of a half art-book half brochure. Designed so that it shows the stages of the design of rapture and framed as though they're architectural plans etc. As well as fliers and pamphlets etc. there could be colour plates that serve as postcards, all of which show off the aesthetic whilst acting as a game supplement.

(if you added deck maps and stats information we'd probably have to fight off the table-top/pen&paper gamers for a copy)

I'm not too keen on the idea of t-shirts, since supplements would just be way cooler, and you could probably make t-shirts available separately (as you could an art-book).

Posters I'm not too keen on since they'd have to be repeatedly folded to get them into the box, so they'd basically have a bunch of creases running through them (also, they could be sold separately, and ship rolled instead of folded, to maintain their quality).

By the way: I assume we are talking about a painted Big Daddy figurine, aren't we?

Unpainted metal is not that sexy - what do you think?Unpainted miniatures from Grenadier or Ral Patha would probably be extremely collectible, but unpainted they don't look that great. If they could make something similar but make it look as though it's been professionally painted to a high standard (I think) it'd be really cool, but I'm imagining it's going to be a lot bigger.

@SurlyAardvark— there have been one or two. Comer springs to mind, and Exile, and the Neverhood soundtrack is still available (but wasn't released with the game).

[Mike]

It looks like the Big Daddy figure is going to win for the LE and I don't want it to suck, but I know that painted figurines like the ones from OXMOX are expensive. So what would you guys prefer? A pewter statue and more stuff in the box or something really kick ass and nothing else?

[Rapture_Tourist]

I guess we better keep discussing in the main thread (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229), adding no more poll :).

That's easier for the team. Otherwise we will have single threads for artbook, poster and soundtrack flooding the forum, too.

Studio OXMOX used to produce figurines as a prototype for mass production or for promotional prizes (Like the big life sized Link from Zelda, Canadians could win some months ago).

EDIT: Thanks for moving, Elizabeth ;)

[piet11111]

aslong as it has developer comentary in the game then i am satisfied.
but an artwork book would be really awesome aswell.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Personally I want everything but the main things I am interested in are:

Collectable Figure
Making Of on DVD
Special Edition casing

I am in the UK and if you look at say Gears Of War collectors edition it costs £50 (around $95 yes its a lot lol) it comes in a well cheapy thin metal tin - art book in hard casing, making of DVD with other bits on it.

So basically since BioShock will hopefully be a lot better gameplay wise especially since its sticking to single player I hope its one kick ass collectors edition :p ;) :D

[pn18]

i don't like the idea of a big daddy figurine, because it's way too expensive to develop/produce an exclusive high-quality figurine with such a small circulation. it would rise the price/ reduce the other content (poster, soundtrack CD,...) of the CE.

[Rapture_Tourist]

i don't like the idea of a big daddy figurine, because it's way too expensive to develop/produce an exclusive high-quality figurine with such a small circulation. it would rise the price/ reduce the other content (poster, soundtrack CD,...) of the CE.

Could be. But it's always the discussion of price vs. content.

I rather pay more money to get something great - a nicely packed bundle. This was also expressed by many people, who signed the petition. Furthermore, Many people complained about Limited Editions in the past and that they only had a nice package and a Making of DVD.



Posters I'm not too keen on since they'd have to be repeatedly folded to get them into the box, so they'd basically have a bunch of creases running through them (also, they could be sold separately, and ship rolled instead of folded, to maintain their quality).


If you have a cloth map/poster, it won't happen that often. My WoW cloth map is still very smooth :)

[Shodans_Avatar]

aslong as it has developer comentary in the game then i am satisfied.
but an artwork book would be really awesome aswell.

A cool thing that I believe with be awesome if it comes with the collectors/special/limited edition is another DVD that shows the making of BioShock, which would also include interviews, soundtrack, artwork, etc. etc. All in one DVD! Wouldn't you guys agree?

I would not really fancy the figurines or the posters. The BioShock's limited edition boxsets themselves should be all be signed by Ken and his team! instead of the posters or something. How about that Ms Elizabeth???

I would then call THAT a Limited-Special-Collectors Edition. :D

[Shodans_Avatar]

I forgot to say .... Woohoo! A Special Edition package! Yaay! I really can't wait for the game to be released.
I'm a "humongous gigantic" fan of SS2. :cool:

[Adabiviak]

Soundtrack: I would not like a soundtrack - I like a very broad range of music and actually own a pile of pre-vinyl 78s from the 40s that sound like the guy we heard in the video and that would be the type of music that goes with this game setting, and it all sucks. If you're going to have music that's not from the period, well, that would be weird and I'd have to hear a sample. Few video games have music that, to me, is worth having on CD. They are, however, cheap and easy to make so it's probably worth doing.

Figurines: I wouldn't go pewter. Look at the pewter figurines from Prey. They're fairly cool but don't require much physical detail (it's primarily textural). One thing that makes the Big Daddy so neat is the mish-mash of equipment on him, the details of which would be lost in a pewter figurine.

Art/story book: Absolutely. For any game with an in-depth story and environment, this is a winner. Don't make it like the one from Prey - a little too small, and most of those were on the Internet already. How well did Raising the Bar do for Half Life 2? This game even has an art theme on top of a good storyline and environment; a book (not a pamphlet) is mandatory.

[Club Heaven]

All I want is the soundtrack. For what I'm concerned the rest is just filler material. You'll forget about it all soon enough, but the music will stay with you forever.

[Big_Daddy]

NO! Wrong one...I was meaning to click Painted...

[Hatesink]

These look especially excellent (particularly the Kain model) (from http://www.studiooxmox.com/)

...but it seems the the Jill model didn't turn out that great, although it could just be a bad angle (and both 47's and Link's face kind of don't look like them)

I guess it's fingers crossed as to what the final outcome's going to be.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8082/soulreaver1lu0.jpghttp://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4712/rancor1ik3.jpg

...the Jill model could have turned out a little better, but maybe it's just a bad angle.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3453/jill1pc7.jpg

[zurin arctus]

I'd love to get a soundtrack, even if I have to buy it seperate. Garry Schyman is the Bernard Herrman of video games. I can't wait to hear his treatment of Bioshock!

[R0ck3t33r]

I am blown away by the number of signatures we got on that petition. My humble thanks go out to 2K for listening to their fans. You rock, folks!

One thing about the poll bugs me, though. "Upgraded packaging" should, in my opinion, not count as a choice. "Most" Limited Edition games come with a metal case as standard, in addition to the other goodies. I think a metal case for the BioShock LE is a must. Steelbook would be the best choice ("Lost Planet," "Halo 2," "Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory," "Perfect Dark Zero") or maybe a case like they used for the "Prey" Limited Edition. It had room inside for the pewter figurines, which would work well for a Big Daddy figurine too.

What do you folks think? I have always assumed that the Limited Edition of any game would come in a metal case, since that has been the pattern lately (except Oblivion). I personally think it should be removed from the choices so fans can vote on other things that are not considered "standard" in a Limited Edition.

[nmrahde]

@Hatesink ...that's Raziel I think. My friends are huge LoK nuts and have three different statues like that. They're awesome quality but I get yelled at if I touch them.

That being said they really wouldn't fit in the box unless you went with old school box size. Seems like it'd be something to consider putting out after it goes Gold (can video games go Platinum?).

Also if they do big figures like that I'd rather they weren't just in the CE. That way I can have one to "play" with at work, and one to keep at home.

...just don't make the figures out of PVC because it breaks too easily if it falls off a copier.

Hmm...there's no way they'd go for this but what about a uniquely shaped case? Like a film tin that could look like one of the gold discs? (The regular metal CE box seems to be way overdone)

If any of the characters/NPCs in the game wear any insignia that'd be neat/unusual. Either a patch or pin would work and be relatively inexpensive..

No one's gonna go for this either but how about a soundtrack/sound effect 7" 45?

A key to the city?

...that's all I got for now.

[AZRoboto]

Upgraded packaging is a no duh, but to my question....

Can you modify the poll so we can select multiple items? Because I want to see the Soundtrack, the Figure, the Artbook, and the upgraded packaging.

[v.dog]

A thought I had this morning; what about a plasmid stress ball? Like the one in the hunting the BD video. :D

Postcards, as previously mentioned, would be awesome. Especially the 'Wish you were here...' ones.

[nmrahde]

A thought I had this morning; what about a plasmid stress ball? Like the one in the hunting the BD video. :D

That would be rather gross...I like it! XD

[SarshelYam]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I looked at that list and said to myself...

"Wow, a Soundtrack would be great. Oh wait...so would an artbook. Then again, a Big Daddy Figure would be a fantastic addition to my collection, and the steelbook/box would certainly look spiffy on my shelf...lithographs...mmmmmm...."

Bottom line, I want'em all. Call me a greedy gamer but the prospect of any one of these, nay, ALL of them...well, I'm excited to say the least. 2K games did a wonderful job with Beth on the Limited Oblivion, so why limit the goodies to a DVD and some packaging. ESIV:Oblivion had nice packaging, a "Making of" DVD, The Pocket Guide to the Empire, the Septim Coin, and the highly useful map/poster. Why not give Bio the same treatment PLUS some?

[Carlos]

Some GameSpotters mentioned an idea like:

Put System Shock (1 &) 2.....its not a bad idea, if you ask me.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I looked at that list and said to myself...

"Wow, a Soundtrack would be great. Oh wait...so would an artbook. Then again, a Big Daddy Figure would be a fantastic addition to my collection, and the steelbook/box would certainly look spiffy on my shelf...lithographs...mmmmmm...."

Bottom line, I want'em all. Call me a greedy gamer but the prospect of any one of these, nay, ALL of them...well, I'm excited to say the least. 2K games did a wonderful job with Beth on the Limited Oblivion, so why limit the goodies to a DVD and some packaging. ESIV:Oblivion had nice packaging, a "Making of" DVD, The Pocket Guide to the Empire, the Septim Coin, and the highly useful map/poster. Why not give Bio the same treatment PLUS some?
I agree with ya, but I think it would be wise to keep it to at least two things in the limited edition...to make a profit, not lose money for each item sold.

[BioSHOCKER]

Some GameSpotters mentioned an idea like:

Put System Shock (1 &) 2.....its not a bad idea, if you ask me.

I agree with ya, but I think it would be wise to keep it to at least two things in the limited edition...to make a profit, not lose money for each item sold.

I mentioned it before also (System Shock 1 and 2) to be included. I agree though, I'd like to see all of these included, and maybe some things.. I think the situation is different with BioShock. This game is getting tremendous buzz, cover stories in game mags, etc. I think they would make substantial profit overall from regular and limited edition sales. I remember the company Working Designs who packed in tons of extra goodies in their special editions of games on Playstation and Playstation 2, they went out of business because they weren't able to sell enough of them. They were ones who enjoyed pleasing fans of their games. I'd like to see a Limited Edition that outdoes anything that they came out with. I wonder if the Limited Editions for the PC and the Xbox 360 will include the same things or will each be different.

[Shodans_Avatar]

I believe SystemShock and SS2 are still under EA's license (those damn money-hungry nerds). So to include them into the Limited Edition would not be possible, to say the most. (2K has to make money too, u know.)

I bet there are a LOT of BioShock fans out there who would rob a bank, if need to, to get one of those Limited Edition set if they were to cost a bomb. :rolleyes: If 2K were to make 10,000 copies of the Limited Edition, it would sell out in a couple of weeks or so!

Then maybe 2K can buy the SystemShock franchise from EA with all that money... and then ken can start making a game for System Shock 3! Well maybe. :p

[Freddo]

What about a Bioshock T-shirt? T-shirts area somewhat common in limited editions.

But a big daddy figurine, soundtrack CD, artbook and all that would be awesome too :D

[Hatesink]

I agree with ya, but I think it would be wise to keep it to at least two things in the limited edition...to make a profit, not lose money for each item sold.Printed matter and discs (providing you don't have to pay for the licenses etc.) are extremely inexpensive to produce. It's stuff like the game's box and a figurine that's more expensive. Depending on what you include in the printed matter you could really enhance the whole experience of owning the collector's edition, and also use the contents to enhance your experience of the game (e.g. supplements (brochure, fliers for the stores etc. welcome to rapture orientation pack) ;))

Edit: One thing that really sold me on the Star Wars Behind the Magic encyclopedia type product was that it had a 1st person 'virtual tour' of the Millennium Falcon, and a kind of 'Weapons of Star Wars' test area, where you could use the various weapons (including the death star's planet-busting laser) on an animated Stormtrooper. Those two things really enhanced the whole package (but it was the virtual tour that sold it to me). I'd love to see an extra disc with an area where we could test out all of the plasmids etc. that were cut from the game.

[Wolf3909]

Honestly, I really don't want a figurine. I know they are very popular because they are collectibles. I'd love to have a soundtrack of like the 40's music they play in the game or a Making Of DVD. I think those things would be really good. I don't know, I just don't want a figurine. lol But so far, looks like that's not what's going to happen. I mean, I want something I can keep in my house for a looong time. And I know when I'm in my 30's or 40's I'm not going to have a Big Daddy sitting on my shelf.

[Jeff]

And I know when I'm in my 30's or 40's I'm not going to have a Big Daddy sitting on my shelf.

Why not? I'm going to have my batman, jay and silent bob inaction figures, Mayor Adam west and Green Lantern Corps action figures displayed prominently somewhere in my home until the day I die, at which time they'll be transported to one of my children's homes and displayed prominently. I'm 21 now and some would think it's already "uncool" to have such things laying around, but I'm a sucker for both nostalgia and memorabilia and I feel better when I can look around at all my super sweet stuff.

[Wolf3909]

No, i understand really. No knocking the collectibles really. Like Batman and Superman, sure. But i'm sure my wife isn't going to like big bad monster Big Daddy on the shelf in the den. lol Maybe in an office if i have one but, idk. Still, I'd just rather have one of those other cool things like the Making of or Sountrack. Just a preference is all.

[Hatesink]

I was going to post this to the questions for the team forum, but then thought better of it, because of all the threads that were locked, but I'm wondering:

Is this going to be a special edition, or actually a 'limited' edition, and if so, just how 'limited' is it going to be? Is everyone who wants one going to be able to have one, or is it going to be a kind of first come first serve type thing?

(basically I'm worried about not getting a copy)

[Rapture_Tourist]

I am unsatisfied with the fact that so many people voted for a pewter Big Daddy figurine.

Why? Do you fear it would cost too much in the end? I prefer more money and more quality.

[Adam Nuhfer]

Poll Options
What kind of Big Daddy figure do you want?
Something pewter that will hold 16 oz of your favorite cold brew
Something painted




I'll take the 16 oz cold brew pewter figurine holder please :D


Anyone else?

[Hatesink]

I think the people voting for pewter are probably people who want a gaming miniature. I'm not sure anyone else would be too sure what a pewter figurine is (but of course I could be wrong).

[Rapture_Tourist]

Could be, yeah.

For the ones, who don't know how a pewter figurine looks like:

http://files.myopera.com/cheng.guo/blog/tommy_pewter_2.jpg

This is Tommy from the Prey Limited Edition. I say it's ugly...

[DocVette]

Vote me in!!! I reserved my XBox 360 game today and would upgrade to a "Limited Edition" if available. Please consider: a poster, t-shirt, figurine, soundtrack CD, 'Art of BioShock' book, and bonus add-on in-game character/weapon/or power. Do a LIMITED EDITION...and "they will come..." :mad: :cool: :eek:

[Hatesink]

This is Tommy from the Prey Limited Edition. I say it's ugly...It's all in the paint. You'd be amazed at what's possible with paint, but not everyone's got the skill to paint to the same standard (I certainly couldn't). If you could mass produce a Big Daddy with a finish of this kind of standard it'd be pretty awesome (these basically started off like the pewter example above) These are 28mm figures:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1106/pumpkinsu5.pnghttp://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4328/652c1al2.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7241/53931809fu6.jpg

[Rapture_Tourist]

I know :). I painted pewter figurines when I was a kid, too (Warhammer like table top games).

But if you look at the current poll in this thread

Something pewter
Something painted

we seem to talk about unpainted pewter.

[Hatesink]

The best way of getting a representative sample would be to poll people through the cult of rapture website, with some kind of description of each and/or pictures etc. (i.e. a description of both a gaming miniature and a description of a basic figure and pictorial examples).

No prizes for guessing which would probably win ;)

[Hatesink]

A soundtrack might be cool if the musique concrète could be remixed into ambient tracks, maybe in such a way that it makes a collage or soundscape of all of the period music (possibly with quotes from Andrew Ryan throughout, between tracks etc. all mixed together (like American Prayer)), but otherwise, even though the music sounds like it's going to be pretty good, I think it'd just feel too much like a gimmick, after all (and I know there'll probably be about a hundred posts after this saying "I would") who would really sit down and listen to a compilation of 1920s/1950s music, more than once.

It's probably obvious that I feel there are better things to include in a collector's edition.

[One0Shot]

My perfect CE would be a metal box for the game (not like prey just the size of a regular dvd case) and a making of dvd.

[Glottis]

These look especially excellent (particularly the Kain model) (from http://www.studiooxmox.com/)

...but it seems the the Jill model didn't turn out that great, although it could just be a bad angle (and both 47's and Link's face kind of don't look like them)

I guess it's fingers crossed as to what the final outcome's going to be.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8082/soulreaver1lu0.jpghttp://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4712/rancor1ik3.jpg

...the Jill model could have turned out a little better, but maybe it's just a bad angle.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3453/jill1pc7.jpg



LOTS of great ideas folks,I have never mentioned this before but my wife and I are HUGE anime fans and also have a small but growing colection of anime figurines,and if they do decide to go the figurine route,I sincerely do hope that they do it right the first time,or get a company to do a series afterwards and give it a good budget,even if it means that buying them takes 60 to 100+ USD per;then get a 5 to 10 dollar pewter one with no
paint.The big daddy and the LS as well as a splicer or two and the doc and
the musician,etc etc,should be done.4" to 7" in hieght would good.I would much rather pay 100 dollars and be garuanteed a kick butt figurine,then 10 dollars extra and get a cd with the sound track in a box,although I think the cd sound track should be a given,as a cd with a cheap silk screen are easy and very cheap to produce,never mind when producing 5 to 10k of them.... ;)

Stalker is a good example of a fairly well done CE.I am stil waiting to open mine later this month,as I have little free time with Uni classes,and I am wiating for my 24" Nec 2470WNX-BK to ship.

I cannot speak for others but I am willing to shell out extra,more then the usual 10$ to 15$ more to get a classy CE that has had a little extra thought and time put into it,then most do.I bought the CE for Quake 3 and still have the box,and manual,and original cd.As well as RTCW's ce,which was not bad.

[somecut8]

Ugh, it seems like the majority of people want a figurine in the limited edition, which is something that I would rather not have. I understand that having a Big Daddy statue would be awesome, but really, I have no where to put it. I do not collect figurines and my house is not decked out in video game related things. What would be nicer is if the Limited Edition had various items that shows off the uniqueness of Bioshock. In other words, I would like a nice box presenting what Bioshock is known for.

My Perfect Limited Edition:
A better case - aluminum or tin hopefully.
A soundtrack
Art Album
Story Book
DVD on how the game was made
System shock I and II (only if it is possible)
And some other random stuff such as, Map of Rapture, Poster of a Big Daddy, Tourist Brochure of Rapture

[Jeff]

Ugh, it seems like the majority of people want a figurine in the limited edition, which is something that I would rather not have. I understand that having a Big Daddy statue would be awesome, but really, I have no where to put it. I do not collect figurines and my house is not decked out in video game related things. What would be nicer is if the Limited Edition had various items that shows off the uniqueness of Bioshock. In other words, I would like a nice box presenting what Bioshock is known for.

My Perfect Limited Edition:
A better case - aluminum or tin hopefully.
A soundtrack
Art Album
Story Book
DVD on how the game was made
System shock I and II (only if it is possible)
And some other random stuff such as, Map of Rapture, Poster of a Big Daddy, Tourist Brochure of Rapture

There's -always- room for figurines, if you get the big-daddy figurine go out and pick up another cool little figure and use them as "book-ends" for your DVD's, works just as well as any real book end and is far more interesting to look at.

[Hatesink]

A soundtrack might be cool if the musique concrète could be remixed into ambient tracks, maybe in such a way that it makes a collage or soundscape of all of the period music (possibly with quotes from Andrew Ryan throughout, between tracks etc. all mixed together (like American Prayer)), but otherwise, even though the music sounds like it's going to be pretty good, I think it'd just feel too much like a gimmick, after all (and I know there'll probably be about a hundred posts after this saying "I would") who would really sit down and listen to a compilation of 1920s/1950s music, more than once.It could be called "The Sound of Rapture". Imagine, you put the CD into the player and the first thing you hear: "A man has a choice... I chose the impossible" [the musique concrète fades in, as Andrew Ryan continues his monologue, up to the line:] "I chose to build...rapture" [the soundscape continues for a time before the monologue continues:] But my city, was betrayed by the weak. [another pause in the monologue as the musique concrète continues, then:] So I ask you my friend, if your life was prized, would you kill the innocent, would you sacrifice your humanity? [another pause and maybe some period music fading in at this point, then:] we all make choices, but in the end, our choices, make us" etc.

If the package was produced like a pen & pencil roleplaying supplemental box-set (complete with something similar to a pre-moulded Heroclix figurine (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/products.asp?cid=40606), or pewter figurine), the extra disc could be an 'ambient sounds of rapture' background music CD.

Having said that, that might not be to everyone's taste, and if there's going to be a figurine it'd be nice if it was probably a little higher quality than the Heroclix stuff. Also, in that kind of package you'd probably have to include some floor-maps.

[Psyclone]

Like the idea of the "Ryan Remix". Suddenly, the soundtrack CD sounds like a pretty cool idea.

I consider upgraded packaging is a must. I think the reason so few voted for it is because they took it for granted. A CE without a spiffy box isn't a proper CE IMHO.

Edit: What I would also REALLY like would be the map and the brochure thing. Or rather any in-game-universe item with Rapture's iconic style.

[Hatesink]

Like the idea of the "Ryan Remix". Suddenly, the soundtrack CD sounds like a pretty cool idea.Unless they did it that way, or just made it ambient sounds of rapture as a table-top gaming aid, I don't see what the point would be. I guess if it's like an orchestral soundtrack there'd be people interested in it, but if it was just a compilation of music of the period, with a BioShock graphic on the cover, what's the point?

Unless they're going to make a real effort, or unless it's going to be full of original music, I think it'd just be too much like a gimmick. Even if it was original music, I don't think I'd ever listen to it. On the rare occasions when I really enjoy a game's music, I just play the game.

I had the exile soundtrack CD. I loved Exile's music and enjoyed playing through Exile just to listen to the way the music would change and loop and repeat, but I only ever listened to the CD once, and it just wasn't the same without the visuals etc. The music augments the game. Take the game away and your left with 'aural window-dressing'.

[LAXMan34]

Did 2K say that there would only be one of those features in the LE of Bioshock? Or is it like a mulit-disk kinda thing.

[Redraf]

So I ask you my friend, if your life was prized, would you kill the innocent, would you sacrifice your humanity?

Pretty hardcore about your decision that it says prized, aren't you?

Anyways, a soundtrack would be a nice thing to add in. I'm always up for stuff to add to my list of song to play in the background while I'm on the computer. I like to have a playlist of non-disruptive tunes that keep me entertained while not distracting me.

[Hatesink]

Pretty hardcore about your decision that it says prized, aren't you?I just picked something for the example— It seems it's most likely it's prized. What else could it be?

Did 2K say that there would only be one of those features in the LE of Bioshock? Or is it like a mulit-disk kinda thing.There's not really information on what's going to be included beyond what's hinted at by the options posted in the poll at Cult of Rapture. If the final result of the poll decides what goes in to the edition then I guess we'll be getting a figurine. The thing is it seems it's only just been decided that there's going to be a special edition, so I'm not sure that anythings is really set in stone just yet.

[R0ck3t33r]

I just picked something for the example— It seems it's most likely it's prized. What else could it be?

"So I ask you, my friend – if your life would thrive, would you kill the innocent?"

At least - that's what is sounded like to me.

[Jeff]

yes, and that makes absolute perfect sense.


stupid internet, I need a "sarcasm" key that adds some sort of indicator in what I'm writing that I'm being terribly sarcastic.

[Hatesink]

'Prized' doesn't make that much sense: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001&postcount=35

[Redraf]

I think thrive makes sense. Its like saying, if you got a lot out of it, would you makes a 6 year old girl's face concave instead of convex.

[Jeff]

perhaps, but "prized" is inferring the value of your life, "Does your life matter more than hers?"

[Redraf]

We really need someone to tell us what they're saying.

SuperKen! Save us from BioConfusion!....Please

[Hatesink]

Ryan seems to be talking about Rapture and posing questions as to what a person might think is okay should they be deemed more valuable to society than others (e.g. Does that mean it's okay for a person to go to extreme lengths and utilise extreme force to secure their own comfort). But I think it's also supposed to be obliquely posing a question to the player with regards the actions available to him in the situation he's about to find himself in (i.e. stuck in rapture). I think those two separate but convoluted meanings conflict a little. 'Prized' probably wouldn't fit either context, but seems to work when they're taken together.

[Alex Pliskin]

I think the poster would be cool. The figurine would be expensive, as pn18 pointed out.

Imagine a full size Bioshock poster in your room. =D

PS: I'm new here, does this mean I'm not a member of the Cult of Rapture?

[Redraf]

Mean you've jouined the junior member club.

[jackinthebox]

PS: I'm new here, does this mean I'm not a member of the Cult of Rapture?

i don't know what exactly you mean, but nobody is in the "cult member perks" yet...

the status under your nick just indicates the number of posts you wrote...
1-29 --> junior member
30-99 --> member
100-? --> senior member
?-? --> unexplored area ;)

[Hatesink]

I think the poster would be cool. The figurine would be expensive, as pn18 pointed out.

Imagine a full size Bioshock poster in your room. =D

PS: I'm new here, does this mean I'm not a member of the Cult of Rapture?Alex— you're golden. Just don't drink the Kool-aid ;)

I'd like to have a BioShock poster, but I'd rather just buy it separately. A poster in the special edition would be folded so many times it'd be criss-crossed with creases, plus they could so easily sell that separately, and (I personally think) there are so many more interesting things you could include, than a poster and a t-shirt (personally I'd like to be able to buy those separately).

I think it would be really easy to just make a t-shirt and a poster, and to collect drawings together for an art book, but what about extra content, like a Rapture brochure, leaflets for the restaurants, shops and facilities, colour plate 'postcards' etc. That would just be so much cooler (it would just mean a lot more time-consuming, meaningful creative work for the team :/ which probably means we won't see that kind of thing, especially if people are satisfied with a t-shirt. :/ )

But that's just my opinion ;)

Something like this would make a great poster:

The Little Sister is perfect, but I don't think the Big Daddy should be in aggressive mode, he should just be standing as if inactive. he should fill the space with his massive static bulk (she'd have to be smaller, but since a poster is pretty big she'd be big enough.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5215/19979741hy7.jpg

[jackinthebox]

you could make that poster out of cloth... it could be folded 20 times and nothing would happen ;) i also think the figure would be way too expensive...

[SuperSaiyan4]

Hi team,

Good to hear the collectors is shaping up nicely however I have one major concern...I am not sure who thought of the PREY collectors edition but if you can catch onto the concern I have then you will know yep it was where the disc was...

I am seriously hoping that it does not happen with the BioShock collectors edition I imported my PREY collectors since 2k for some reason did not want to sell it in Europe - luckily it was region free but still needed a replacement which the devs sent me as the disc was badly scratched.

[Hatesink]

Do you get the feeling there'd be a different result if they'd posted a question like:

"Would you prefer...

A. For us to print up some stuff, shove it in a box and charge you an extra twenty bucks for it?

or

B. Us to engage in meaningful creative work to add extra content in the form of a 'welcome to rapture' orientation pack (plasmid brochure, Rapture brochure/survival guide etc.)?"

:p;)

[Rapture_Tourist]

And I believe many of us will change their minds if 2K and IG say: We considered your ideas, but we can only offer two special components for the Limited Edition.

It would be interesting to see, how many things are possible.

[Hatesink]

If that were the case, I'd opt for colour plates depicting advertisements, postcards and the characters of BioShock in a compact, dvd-case sized metal case (hopefully either solid black with just the BioShock logo, or designed so that it looks like it's been excavated from the ruins of rapture all these years later). But if it was a choice between soundtrack & t-shirt, or soundtrack & art book and the Big Daddy miniature, I'd rather have the miniature.

[Glottis]

I like the tin/metal box thingy,and was thinking of opening it up and it turning out like a music box,with that song by the Ink Spots,with a few post cards,and brochures.

[king_clueless]

I would like a hand written note from the individual devs thanking me personally for buying their game. But seeing as they prob won't how about the extra disc as THE FULL SOUNDTRACK for me to listen to. They could also include any freaky samples from the game as well. Poster would be nice but I don't really need the "building of" stuff. Those things are always so boring.

[Alex Pliskin]

Alex— you're golden. Just don't drink the Kool-aid ;)

I'd like to have a BioShock poster, but I'd rather just buy it separately. A poster in the special edition would be folded so many times it'd be criss-crossed with creases, plus they could so easily sell that separately, and (I personally think) there are so many more interesting things you could include, than a poster and a t-shirt (personally I'd like to be able to buy those separately).

I think it would be really easy to just make a t-shirt and a poster, and to collect drawings together for an art book, but what about extra content, like a Rapture brochure, leaflets for the restaurants, shops and facilities, colour plate 'postcards' etc. That would just be so much cooler (it would just mean a lot more time-consuming, meaningful creative work for the team :/ which probably means we won't see that kind of thing, especially if people are satisfied with a t-shirt. :/ )

But that's just my opinion ;)

Something like this would make a great poster:

The Little Sister is perfect, but I don't think the Big Daddy should be in aggressive mode, he should just be standing as if inactive. he should fill the space with his massive static bulk (she'd have to be smaller, but since a poster is pretty big she'd be big enough.



(Sorry for deleting, just didn't want the post too big. =P)

I agree with you, as long as they made a poster seperate or something of that like, I'd be ecstatic.

PS: Glad to see everyone here is so civil, thank you guys.

[Hatesink]

I think this would be really cool:

It's a slipcase with solid black design and BioShock logo. You slide the box out of the slipcase and it's designed like it's been excavated from the depths of rapture all these years later, and partially cleaned to reveal the words "Welcome to Your New Home". You open the box and the first thing you see: "Welcome to Rapture", on the cover of your Rapture orientation manual/brochure.

That, I would love.

[ffanxii4ever]

that sounds awesome

[Silent Film]

Sounds similar to Fallout's 'Vault Dweller's Survival Guide'. :cool:

Heck that was with a regular edition game, back when goodies like that were common. Now we're just lucky to get a quick start slip. Valve, I'm looking at you.

[BioShockWins]

2K could charge over $100 for a plastice helmet and a special edition manual! hey... it worked for bungie :o

[Rapture_Tourist]

Based on what Hatesink and others have said, I played a bit with my graphic tools:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/merdna/LE.jpg

As Hatesink mentioned, this Limited Edition comes with a Slipcase....inside of it there is the steelbok DVD case. Its design might not be that cool (It was a search result at google for "Art Déco" ;) ), but it's just an example.

Inside the Steelbok, there is the game DVD + Bonus DVD (two sided DVD holder inside the case). You also realize the Mini CD (max. capacity 212 MB). It has a longplay design with a CoR motive on it. It contains selected songs from the Soundrack and is playable in any CD player. The Mini CD was just a quick idea, because it fits into the steelbook case nicely.

The manual is dressed up like a welcome brochure and contains game artwork.

The artwork stickers are a quick idea, which came into my mind to decorate this Fan Art. Because they are in game advertisements, they might decorate real walls, too :).

Big Daddy figurine is in, but motive and base are discussable ^^.

There is a folded cloth poster inside, too. Motive changeable.

[Hatesink]

Dude— that looks awesome, I want it right now.

[Corgano]

@Rapture_Tourist

That is sweet! If you're not on their team of designers, you should be!

(I love the soundtrack/songs idea BTW... and the slip case, and the rest too!)

[vrap]

Two thumbs up.

[Psyclone]

I would SO buy that! Great job Rapture_Tourist!

You hear that 2K? This is what we want!

[Silent Film]

Expertly crafted work there RT. :cool:

I would definitely buy any LE which resembled that.

[2K Elizabeth]

Awesome job on that mock up, Rapture Tourist! Our art department gave you a thumbs up.

[Eternal flame worker]

WOOOOOOW, truly amazing Rapture Tourist. :eek: :eek:

I hope the art department makes some in this way for the true Collector´s edition. I enjoy specially the Steelbok DVD case and the manual in artbook style, is delicious...

Bonus DVD, postals...please include a poster or similar signed by the irrational team PLEEEEASEEEEEEEEEEE

[v.dog]

Awesome job on that mock up, Rapture Tourist! Our art department gave you a thumbs up.It'd be even better if they gave him a job. ;)

[BioSHOCKER]

Awesome job on that mock up, Rapture Tourist! Our art department gave you a thumbs up.

Hey Elizabeth, when will we hear the official word on the LE/CE? Will the PC and 360 versions have the same contents? Price? We're hanging by a thread here! :D

[BioShockWins]

just one thing though... what's up with the base of the figurine? its supposed to be scarry, not a wedding cake decoration! =P
it should be standing on a pile of corpses... not vanilla icing!

[Rapture_Tourist]

just one thing though... what's up with the base of the figurine? its supposed to be scarry, not a wedding cake decoration! =P
it should be standing on a pile of corpses... not vanilla icing!

You've got a point there :). I just haven't found a nice base for the figurine...work in progress if you want so ;).

Big thanks for the compliments!

[v.dog]

just one thing though... what's up with the base of the figurine? its supposed to be scarry, not a wedding cake decoration! =P
it should be standing on a pile of corpses... not vanilla icing!I'd like that on my wedding cake. ;)

[king_clueless]

bleeding hell Rapture_Tourist you've got too much time on your hands or somefink :)

great work mate put me down for one

[Glottis]

great work mate put me down for one


Put me down for two,and I say 2K hire's Rapture Tourist ASAP !! :D :o

[Deathless]

Great work, but the base does look like a wedding cake, how about a rusty, water covered floor or something else like that. Great model, though, you should be hired for Irrational Games alright.

I tried to mutate bugs but they died.:(

But I tried to make a mini underwater city for bugs and..... it worked!:D

[Eastmann]

That mock up looks amazing, I would definitely buy it

one question, how would you cram all that stuff into the metal case?

I really like the figure it looks great

[Rapture_Tourist]

That mock up looks amazing, I would definitely buy it

one question, how would you cram all that stuff into the metal case?

I really like the figure it looks great

I thought of a paper box (steelcase + figurine on top), although everything might fit into a bigger steelcase.

[Hatesink]

one question, how would you cram all that stuff into the metal case?http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4391&postcount=1

[bioshocking]

Would rather the figurine and base are all in pewtar and have a rusty look.:)

[Deathless]

The big daddies could have a rusty look, because of water everywhere. Well, almost everywhere. They could be in a defensive position, like protecting a little sister.

@ Rapture_Tourist

Excellent work, but one question: What program did you use to make all of that?

[JoJonathan]

that's written in the COMMUNITY Q&A on Cult of Rapture.
i think it would be nice if BioShock would be released in a nice big carton-box with a thick manual and a poster :)

I heard that there may be a toy line if the game becomes populare enough and they may release some figures like they did with Re4

[Laser Eyes]

Hey Elizabeth, when will we hear the official word on the LE/CE? Will the PC and 360 versions have the same contents? Price? We're hanging by a thread here! :D

I'll settle for official word that the LE/CE will be released worldwide. (Unlike the USA-only release of the Prey Limited Edition. Yes, 2K you are STILL in my bad books for that one.)

I've asked this question several times but still no answer. It's a worry because while 2K might not be able to say exactly what will be in the CE/LE at this point in time they sure could say if it will be released worldwide.

[Big_Daddy]

Jesus christ Tourist...thats amazing, I thought it was real when I first saw it:eek: .

[R0ck3t33r]

Just let me add to the rest of the compliments here, Rapture Tourist. That looks phenomenal.

And for the record, 2K, it is EXACTLY what I hope to see in the Bioshock Limited Edition. Bonus DVD, soundtrack, Big Daddy figurine, metal case, cloth poster. This stuff wouldn't cost too much extra to make, and it would make the whole Bioshock experience even sweeter. I'd gladly shell out an extra ten bucks for this.

[BioShockWins]

Just let me add to the rest of the compliments here, Rapture Tourist. That looks phenomenal.

And for the record, 2K, it is EXACTLY what I hope to see in the Bioshock Limited Edition. Bonus DVD, soundtrack, Big Daddy figurine, metal case, cloth poster. This stuff wouldn't cost too much extra to make, and it would make the whole Bioshock experience even sweeter. I'd gladly shell out an extra ten bucks for this.

yeah, it does look nice

[Glottis]

I'd gladly shell out an extra ten bucks for this.


Only ten ? :o I wouuld go as high as 30 usd extra.

Make it a truly limited CE,and with really well done classy extras,that obviously had allot of time,effort,and thought put into them.

The Stalker CE is not perfect,but its most certainly one of the best CE's I have ever seen.

[v.dog]

Only ten ? :o I wouuld go as high as 30 usd extra.Ssssshhhh.

[R0ck3t33r]

Only ten ? :o I wouuld go as high as 30 usd extra.

Make it a truly limited CE,and with really well done classy extras,that obviously had allot of time,effort,and thought put into them.

The Stalker CE is not perfect,but its most certainly one of the best CE's I have ever seen.
Sure, I'd spend more than $10 if it's something REALLY special (like that custom hinged metal case that Rapture Tourist invented). But it doesn't mean that I want 2K to know right away that I'll spend $30. :D If it's worth $90, I'll spend it. But I'm not going to pledge an extra $30 in advance.

[Pinky_Powers]

A detailed Big Daddy figurine would be truly awesome! This is going to be great! :D

[Eternal flame worker]

I think could be very interesting (I will love it) to include in this LE two or three panflets about Rapture commercials like this ones http://www.2kgames.com/bioshock/html/rapture.htm or similars, a welcome guide or a little booklet (like the GTA San Andreas for example) but with a midlecentury /future desing like this for example http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/books/popculture/new/facts/05015.htm

with a smiling Dr. Steinman guiding us for him immaculate and beautiful clinic, a look of a commercial centre shops,etc

The contrast between these Rapture utopia images and the Rapture soon we will see in the game would be very good and devastating.

[Tourist_of_Mars-city]

I would rather have an extra disc with making-of,not a figurine. And realese it in Europe for christ sakes (not like Prey)

[MF9000]

I think they should include all the goodies that Rapture_Tourist has on his concept design. That would be a great collectors edition for sure.

[Eel Kuan]

I agree with MF9000, that would be a first class CE.

[Corgano]

I'm still not a big fan of the figurine... BUT I'm definately into the songs, case, art booklets, pamphlets, etc.

Thanks again Rapture_Tourist for these great ideas! (Hope we see them!)

[Pinky_Powers]

And maybe some creepy mutated pet dog we can pick up at the pet store with the receipt from our Collector's Box.

I'm going to call mine Gomez.

[501105]

Hope we hear what is in it soon.

[Hatesink]

Shall I be really mischievous and suggest new additions, like a limited-edition BioShock mouse for the PC version.

And maybe some creepy mutated pet dog we can pick up at the pet store with the receipt from our Collector's Box.

I'm going to call mine Gomez.What he said. I wan't that. I'll call mine Gavin. ;)

[Pinky_Powers]

What he said. I wan't that. I'll call mine Gavin. ;)

We could get together and give the dogs play-dates at the park; they could run around chasing children with foamy snarls of black intent.

This is going to be so fun!

As for the mouse, I would find that fairly useless personally, as I am grossly prejudiced about my Mouse&Keyboard. It took me forever to settle on the one I have.

[v.dog]

I got a good mouse with my copy of BF2142. Unless it's 2000+ dpi, not interested.

[borgdrone89]

:sobs: my mouse is 800 dpi, but yeah, got it and my keyboard (ps/2) for about $30AU off ebay

[Hatesink]

I could use a new mouse too. Something less notchy.

[Pinky_Powers]

You might think about... buying one. :o

[Hatesink]

But the one I've got still works ;)

Having said that I'd love a gaming mouse, so that I can map functions to its buttons.

[Pinky_Powers]

They are nice.

[Bioshock_FTW!]

Hey guys, i'm new here so don't mind me.
I have never been so excited for a game to come out, and with all this buzz on the forum of all these great, artistic ideas for the collectors edition...i need to know..
Is it going to be released at the same time as the regular edition?? If not...i'ma have to buy the regular first THEN get the CE when it comes out.

and if you don't mind me throwing in my two cents...if anyone cares

Figurine - seems like a bad idea. Firstly the box would end up rather large unless it was something that would be sent in for. Consider the CE packaging...where it's supposed to be a tin box sorta dealie...how are they gonna include a 4"-7" figurine, other than creating an entirely new box with plastic windows to see the thing($$$, think Lord of the Rings DVD with included book ends or Gollum figurine)...otherwise it's obviously costly and the quality may not end up worth the price...and like someone else said, not everyone has a spot for a Big Daddy figurine.

Poster - not a bad concept but clearly not a great idea since it will crease when folded to the ^nth degree.

Soundtrack - would have to have some pretty impressive original music for this to be worth it for me. I loved the music from Myst IV that came with a soundtrack, but I never listened to it.

Art Book - Awesome. I would love and cherish this and keep it on my desk at all times. Preferably, make it stuff we haven't seen yet.

Brochure(s) - Also very cool, anticipating deco-licious goodness. :D

Cloth Poster - My favorite idea. Solves the poster problem of folding creases.

I know my opinion prolly isn't all that valid, considering i'm a noob here. But just some thoughts...

One other question though, if any moderator decides to answer - I almost expected to see Bioshock get delayed another 6 months and hear about an upgrade to DX10 technology - why didn't they decide to pursue this option?

[BioShockWins]

Hey guys, i'm new here so don't mind me.
I have never been so excited for a game to come out, and with all this buzz on the forum of all these great, artistic ideas for the collectors edition...i need to know..
Is it going to be released at the same time as the regular edition?? If not...i'ma have to buy the regular first THEN get the CE when it comes out.

and if you don't mind me throwing in my two cents...if anyone cares

Figurine - seems like a bad idea. Firstly the box would end up rather large unless it was something that would be sent in for. Consider the CE packaging...where it's supposed to be a tin box sorta dealie...how are they gonna include a 4"-7" figurine, other than creating an entirely new box with plastic windows to see the thing($$$, think Lord of the Rings DVD with included book ends or Gollum figurine)...otherwise it's obviously costly and the quality may not end up worth the price...and like someone else said, not everyone has a spot for a Big Daddy figurine.

Poster - not a bad concept but clearly not a great idea since it will crease when folded to the ^nth degree.

Soundtrack - would have to have some pretty impressive original music for this to be worth it for me. I loved the music from Myst IV that came with a soundtrack, but I never listened to it.

Art Book - Awesome. I would love and cherish this and keep it on my desk at all times. Preferably, make it stuff we haven't seen yet.

Brochure(s) - Also very cool, anticipating deco-licious goodness. :D

Cloth Poster - My favorite idea. Solves the poster problem of folding creases.

I know my opinion prolly isn't all that valid, considering i'm a noob here. But just some thoughts...

One other question though, if any moderator decides to answer - I almost expected to see Bioshock get delayed another 6 months and hear about an upgrade to DX10 technology - why didn't they decide to pursue this option?

a thought out post... usualy I don't read those anymore
heh

but the idea of what will be in it is not set in stone just yet, people just know that there will be one

so maybe it will be perfect in everyway imaginable

[somecut8]

I will be buying this LE no matter what (unless the game is bad....), as a testament to how amazing 2K is for listening to the Community, but why choose to release it only in Gamestop and EB?

I know, they are the largest game retail chains, but what about all the Circuit Cities and Best Buys and GameCrazy and Walmarts of the world? Why ignore them?

I don't know if this has been discussed, but this seems interesting.

[Laser Eyes]

The BioShock Limited Edition will be available to US and Canada exclusively at GameStop and EB for US$59.99 (PC LE) and US$69.99 (Xbox 360™ LE). The Limited Edition will also be available in Europe and details about ordering a copy will be coming soon.

WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA??? I might have known that 2K would screw us again. You guys are the pits.

[Konk]

WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA??? I might have known that 2K would screw us again. You guys are the pits.

I was just thinking the same thing. it had better get released down here. i really dont want to have to wait the extra days to have it shipped from europe.

[Pinky_Powers]

Pits?

Well now... I just don't know.

[viqtor]

can i get one in uk???

[borgdrone89]

WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA??? I might have known that 2K would screw us again. You guys are the pits.

yeah.. im a VERY devoted fan.. and part of bioshock's being developed here. i deserve the oppourtunity to buy a CE/LE

[Eternal flame worker]

I would enjoy a lot the artbook, more than the CD but...

[borgdrone89]

but...:confused:

as long as its here in australia, im happey

[Hatesink]

Wasn't there a sticky about the LE?

Anyways— just wanted to say, I'm looking forward to it and hoping they can do something cool with the soundtrack CD, so that it's something I might actually listen to ;)

[jackinthebox]

can i get one in uk???

The Limited Edition will also be available in Europe and details about ordering a copy will be coming soon.

if uk counts as europe, then you could get a chance to buy one ;)

[borgdrone89]

no australia hey? i feel gipped. it is my right to pay them more money!!!

;(

[Necros]

Nice, the most important things I wanted, the DVD and the soundtrack are in. :cool: But no art book. :(

Elizabeth! Will you post some artwork on the Cult of Rapture site? Or will there be a well detailed manual with artwork too?

[501105]

Please post it when a european site puts it up as a preorder must preorder.

[Bioshock_FTW!]

So excited to hear the news about the LE. It's gonna rule. I think I'll name my big daddy Fred.
Question is just about personal preference. I anticipate taking a day off from work to play it when it's released, so from everyone's personal experience pre-ordering stuff...
is it smarter to pre-order online and get it shipped (and hope it comes the day of release), or smarter to pre-order at a retail location and get there extra early to nab it?

[Rapture_Tourist]

Here now what Elizabeth has said towards 1Up.com about the LE - you maybe like to know:

"Typically we would have started a limited edition six months ago, but even with our looming production deadlines we're trying to listen to the community and fans -- in choosing the contents based on the poll, and in designing the front of the box. With our current timeline, I don't think we could make 500,000 copies of the LE to get out to every retailer just given production times on the figurine alone. So we were looking at a very limited quantity, and we were fortunate that GameStop and EB would pick it up on such a short notice. Given the limited quantity, if we were to spread it out over every retailer we would be looking at maybe two copies per store, and that's not fair to anyone."

[Hatesink]

Now I'm feeling like I there might not be enough for me to have one. :(

My wagon is well and truly hitched to this thing. How are the orders going to work? I don't have a pre-order yet, but I am in the first fifty of the petition (I would have been further up the list but I dragged my feet about signing up).

I don't mean to sound whiney, but this is the kind of thing that could really depress me (and yes I know I wasn't into the idea at first but that's just because of the expense— I've since diverted some of my hardware upgrade money towards paying for an edition of each (PC & Xbox)).

Will they still be in production after release? (i.e. will there be further batches?) Or is it really going to be limited?

To be honest I'd personally rather everyone got one (and have them coming out of our ears) than just a few of us get a truly limited edition (I know I don't want to have to go without one and I can understand how disappointed others might be if they have to).

[Bioshock_FTW!]

Will they still be in production after release? (i.e. will there be further batches?) Or is it really going to be limited?


She makes it sound like it's just gonna be one huge batch production of these things and nothing after that...though i obviously have about as much of a clue as you do.
The forum members here should get some sorta special pre-pre-order capabilities for the LE, considering the input folks have been giving.

[v.dog]

Make it one of the perks? I hope so. Living in New Zealand means we often miss out on these sorts of things.

[willerokiller]

man im gonna be bumming if i dont get my hands on one of those LE :(

[MF9000]

Now I'm feeling like I there might not be enough for me to have one. :(

My wagon is well and truly hitched to this thing. How are the orders going to work? I don't have a pre-order yet, but I am in the first fifty of the petition (I would have been further up the list but I dragged my feet about signing up).

I don't mean to sound whiney, but this is the kind of thing that could really depress me (and yes I know I wasn't into the idea at first but that's just because of the expense— I've since diverted some of my hardware upgrade money towards paying for an edition of each (PC & Xbox)).

Will they still be in production after release? (i.e. will there be further batches?) Or is it really going to be limited?

To be honest I'd personally rather everyone got one (and have them coming out of our ears) than just a few of us get a truly limited edition (I know I don't want to have to go without one and I can understand how disappointed others might be if they have to).

I just ordered mine. I think it's a first come, first served type of thing. So don't wait. I don't see how Gamestop would be able to give preference to forum members since they most likely don't have a copy of the petition.

[viqtor]

when can i pre-order it in uk then??? if it is indeed 'limited' then i dont want to miss it...

[w3lcom2rapture]

Yea I really want an LE...I wonder when we will be able to pre-order them. I smile just thinking about it :rolleyes: :D

[Bioshock_FTW!]

Yea I really want an LE...I wonder when we will be able to pre-order them. I smile just thinking about it :rolleyes: :D

You can pre-order both versions right now. Just needs a $5 deposit @ Gamestop or EBGames if you do it at a store.

[Blackhawk0044]

id like too see an action figure size of a big daddy

[MF9000]

id like too see an action figure size of a big daddy

That'd be one large box and weight a ton. :) I'd like to see a Big Daddy that lights up. With a small LED and battery it would be possible.

[Bioshock_FTW!]

i have officially pre-ordered the limited uber fantastic collectors edition! w00t! :D

[viqtor]

You can pre-order both versions right now. Just needs a $5 deposit @ Gamestop or EBGames if you do it at a store.

I meant in the UK... don't seem to be announced in uk yet...:mad: :mad:

[splicer]

I dont want to appear to be the voice of doom,but most L.E's I've come across have sucked big time-cheap tin,an appalling making of dvd,and a few manky stickers-i really hope Bioshock can buck that trend;) also-dont be fooled by the limited slogan-its all supply on demand stuff,a bit cynical really,its exploitation of loyal fans that deserve better-lets hope i am wrong.