Reasons people have quit on you in MP.

[Doomzday]

Heres a quick list I'm adding to daily. All of these will happen before the first 30 turns are up, when the other player has a good chance of fighting back. (I play FFA in which tide can turn very quickly.)

1. Capturing somebody elses caravan.
2. Stealing their initial exploration gold with a goody hut spy.
3. Stealing their first great person (America) with a goody hut spy.
4. Having horsemen before them.
5. Getting any of the relic wonders.
6. Capturing their first settler out of their capital.
7. Capturing the first new city they create (as it wasn't defended at all).
8. "Stealing" a goody hut they've been attacking.
9. Playing as Zulus.
10. Playing as Aztecs.
11. Researching Masonry first.
12. Beating a warrior army back with one archer in defense.

Any more?

-Doomz

[MorteEterna]

Conquer all capitals but his (It happened to me today :D)

There are a lot others but I have to remember all..

[frank_littleff]

- sore foot
- splinter in thumb
- bad hair day
- realising this wasn't a command and conquere type game
- realising they should have learnt how to play it single player first
- not capturing your city with their 2 armies of warriors and needing to cry in their pillows for a bit
- realising they may have a game on their hand
- it's 5 minutes to bed time and they haven't brushed their teeth
- forgetting that a committment to play should extend beyond their attention span of a 4 minute gangsta rap song, innit

[xbman22x]

i destroyed thier asszz

[MorteEterna]

Building a nuke :D it happens a lot
Come with a lot of armies
Having more technologies
Having a unit with a lot of upgrades
Losing having x3 the force of one unit

[The Panguin]

I had someone quit once when they rushed my capital with a warrior army and the single warrior I had in my city destroyed it. xP

I've also had people quit because of a horrible connection, because I was technologically dominant, because I was about to win by building UN or World Bank, getting mad because I wouldn't trade something like mass production for irrigation. >_>; Also I've had people in FFA leave because I kept sending out spy rings and stealing all their great people and they couldn't get them back xP

[xsubtownerx]

checkmate the dude after 15 turns... (head to head = me rushing you with horses)

[Ganon842]

So far no one has quit because I get horses' first(Ialways get horse rideing first)

- Getting pwned by the A.I and no one will help
- Haveing things to do in Real Life
- bad connection
- haveing two citys when everyone else has four

[exclamatio]

- because i am the worlds best civ rev player
- because they fear my leet skills
- they know about the ass whooping im about to unveil
- they understand it is impossible to defeat me
- i am undefeatable
- fear
- clowns
- fear of clowns
- my perfect start. middle and endgame strategies
- my dashing good lucks
- jealousy
- the french

[TheMystic]

I never quit, but have had countless people do it. It's actually pretty dumb in my opinion since you can always pull together a win even when you're behind. I'm ranked #2 on the head to head ladder right now, and may even get ahead of Mr. Game Theory today.

Out of the 100 plus combined games I've played on FFA and HTH, I have had probably 10 wins where I was significantly behind.

[MorteEterna]

I never quit, but have had countless people do it. It's actually pretty dumb in my opinion since you can always pull together a win even when you're behind. I'm ranked #2 on the head to head ladder right now, and may even get ahead of Mr. Game Theory today.
Out of the 100 plus combined games I've played on FFA and HTH, I have had probably 10 wins where I was significantly behind.

And what happened when I rushed the nuke, I had about 10-12 cities, cruisers, artillery, and you only a city? Sorry but I want to know, because you have lost that game (it said you quit, but maybe you disconnected, however that game was lost for you). However I don't want to attack you, but understand me, it's not so good for me to hear that one is second while I was first (and you were third), but after the bug I have lost 364 skill. I wouldn't like that somebody say they're great (an example) when they aren't. And I have played about 20 games in 2 days only for that bug and I'm not still in the top10, so understand me now, thanks

@exclamatio:
- because i am the worlds best civ rev player (it is as I said to mystic, but I'm not the best, only I was the first and nobody has beaten me really but 2, and they were lucky beginners)
- they understand it is impossible to defeat me (you could say it in general)
- i am undefeatable (you could say it in general, too)
- my perfect start. middle and endgame strategies (Sorry but now I have to say it's not perfect)

[exclamatio]

And what happened when I rushed the nuke, I had about 10-12 cities, cruisers, artillery, and you only a city? Sorry but I want to know, because you have lost that game (it said you quit, but maybe you disconnected, however that game was lost for you). However I don't want to attack you, but understand me, it's not so good for me to hear that one is second while I was first (and you were third), but after the bug I have lost 364 skill. I wouldn't like that somebody say they're great (an example) when they aren't. And I have played about 20 games in 2 days only for that bug and I'm not still in the top10, so understand me now, thanks

@exclamatio:
- because i am the worlds best civ rev player (it is as I said to mystic, but I'm not the best, only I was the first and nobody has beaten me really but 2, and they were lucky beginners)
- they understand it is impossible to defeat me (you could say it in general)
- i am undefeatable (you could say it in general, too)
- my perfect start. middle and endgame strategies (Sorry but now I have to say it's not perfect)

i forgot to add people leave when they know im playing naked too

[MorteEterna]

i forgot to add people leave when they know im playing naked too

What does it mean? I have beaten you 4 times, only in 1 was in difficult but in only few turns I was going to gain almost 1 thousand of gold each turn. However there are no excuse I think. Were you talking about why do they disconnect or for our duels?

However, there are a lot of things:

-Having a lot of gold more than your enemy
-Having a lot of techs more
-Having a lot of units in a city while he is talking about that to AI
-Having a lot of wonders
-Building a wonder each turn
-Moving a lot of units to your enemy

[exclamatio]

What does it mean? I have beaten you 4 times, only in 1 was in difficult but in only few turns I was going to gain almost 1 thousand of gold each turn. However there are no excuse I think. Were you talking about why do they disconnect or for our duels?

However, there are a lot of things:

-Having a lot of gold more than your enemy
-Having a lot of techs more
-Having a lot of units in a city while he is talking about that to AI
-Having a lot of wonders
-Building a wonder each turn
-Moving a lot of units to your enemy

uve beaten me 4 times?

no one has beaten me 4 times mate

only person to really beat me was Tibbbi, think he is 3rd atm

[MorteEterna]

uve beaten me 4 times?

no one has beaten me 4 times mate

only person to really beat me was Tibbbi, think he is 3rd atm

Please, be serious, I have beaten you 4 times, first you used aztesk, second China, third Zulu, fourth Arabs (and you also said nice rush when you used zulu), I hate who is a liar ;)

[TheMystic]

And what happened when I rushed the nuke, I had about 10-12 cities, cruisers, artillery, and you only a city? Sorry but I want to know, because you have lost that game (it said you quit, but maybe you disconnected, however that game was lost for you). However I don't want to attack you, but understand me, it's not so good for me to hear that one is second while I was first (and you were third), but after the bug I have lost 364 skill. I wouldn't like that somebody say they're great (an example) when they aren't. And I have played about 20 games in 2 days only for that bug and I'm not still in the top10, so understand me now, thanks

@exclamatio:
- because i am the worlds best civ rev player (it is as I said to mystic, but I'm not the best, only I was the first and nobody has beaten me really but 2, and they were lucky beginners)
- they understand it is impossible to defeat me (you could say it in general)
- i am undefeatable (you could say it in general, too)
- my perfect start. middle and endgame strategies (Sorry but now I have to say it's not perfect)

I have no clue what you're talking about, we have never played eachother as far as I know. My only two losses came from that mxcs2 or whatever kid who plays Arabs, and from a guy named something like TexasMachineShop who got extremely lucky as Aztecs when I had incorrectly chosen my civilization and didn't notice. Somehow I had started with the mongols, and the Aztec player started only about 6 tiles away from me and just walked right in. I ended up matching with him a couple of days later and opened up a can of whoop ass. :)

The other three "losses" were from freeze-ups, and were always in the initial turns of the game. You must have me mistaken with someone else if you think you've played me, because the scenario you just described never happened. My tag is IDTheMystic, and my ratio right now is 65-5. I've played PrivateJohn and many other top players. Without those lockup losses, I'd be 65-2 right now.

[MorteEterna]

I have no clue what you're talking about. My only two losses came from that mxcs2 or whatever kid who plays Arabs, and from a guy named something like TexasMachineShop who got extremely lucky as Aztecs when I had incorrectly chosen my civilization and didn't notice.

The other three "losses" were from freeze-ups, and were always in the initial turns of the game. You must have me mistaken with someone else if you think you've played me, because the scenario you just described never happened. My tag is IDTheMystic, and my ratio right now is 65-5. I've played PrivateJohn and many other top players. Without those lockup losses, I'd be 65-2 right now.


In fact I used arabs (I have the gamertag mxzx3, I know it's a bad gamertag but I would change it in the future). And as I said I used arabs, you French and I have blocked you in your capital with a cruiser maybe and galleons, however I had the manhattan project and in the same turn I was moving an army of artillery to kill you. Wow I don't know why all want to avoid their losses. You remember your One city challenge using french? You builld walls, you discovered Angkor wat (and you took democracy from great pyramids), I have taken Japanese and China, you was left of me and you tried to attack me with an army of knights and catapults, India was right of me. You remember now? And it HAPPENED ;)


I won't be your enemy, only I hate these things, you are a friend for me

However, other things I have found:

When they have to go the first turn
When they see you have taken the first capital
When they see their xbox doesn't work
When the game is frozen they quit the first turn

And one OT:

When you beat them, they still wait to make you quit before them

[exclamatio]

Please, be serious, I have beaten you 4 times, first you used aztesk, second China, third Zulu, fourth Arabs (and you also said nice rush when you used zulu), I hate who is a liar ;)

i played you 4 times and got disconnected 3 times pal!

2 of which i was close to slapping my economic win in the bag, 1 of which i have no idea who was really in the lead and once you got a nice rush on me in the first few turns of the game

if you want to count my disconnections as wisn for yourself go ahead, you must be really great to want to count them, i wish i was as good as you!

[MorteEterna]

i played you 4 times and got disconnected 3 times pal!

2 of which i was close to slapping my economic win in the bag, 1 of which i have no idea who was really in the lead and once you got a nice rush on me in the first few turns of the game

if you want to count my disconnections as wisn for yourself go ahead, you must be really great to want to count them, i wish i was as good as you!

I have seen in our last game how I was more advanced than you, a lot of techs and I was going to finish the manhattan project. And it was disconnected, but I was winning in all points (cultural maybe not sure, but economic, domination, and technological). First game I won but it didn't disconnected, I don't remember how the game moved, however we had only 2 games disconnected, and only in one I was unsure to win at the 100%

[eireksten]

I have seen in our last game how I was more advanced than you, a lot of techs and I was going to finish the manhattan project. And it was disconnected, but I was winning in all points (cultural maybe not sure, but economic, domination, and technological). First game I won but it didn't disconnected, I don't remember how the game moved, however we had only 2 games disconnected, and only in one I was unsure to win at the 100%

You take this winning a little too seriously... I'm growing a little tired of you telling everyone how you beat them, and how your strategy is the best, and how it's no point playing anything other than arab, chinese, roman or aztec (or smth).

Almost all of us are aware that you are a great civ player, and that your arab rush is very good. We know that you probably would have beaten us, had we played against eachother. Why don't you settle for that. Do you really need to force everyone to agree on that? Even if it takes whining in the forums?

That said, I think you seem like a nice enough guy, with a lot of good input on how to play civ. I've actually gotten a little fond of the arab rush myself, and I wouldn't be near as good at it hadn't it been for your input.

As for the topic of the thread, I've got one primary reason people quit on me:

- The PS3 Patch 1.10! This is reason enough for the whole PS3 community to not play me multiplayer at all. I can't get a single game started...

[ByeByeToYou]

People quit on me when the look at the who is winning page and realise that they are miles behind. normally this happens about turn 15.

[Samurai-Hon]

checkmate the dude after 15 turns... (head to head = me rushing you with horses)

Wow, and all they had to do was make sure their city was on a hill and keep an archer army or two stationed inside.

[TheMystic]

In fact I used arabs (I have the gamertag mxzx3, I know it's a bad gamertag but I would change it in the future). And as I said I used arabs, you French and I have blocked you in your capital with a cruiser maybe and galleons, however I had the manhattan project and in the same turn I was moving an army of artillery to kill you. Wow I don't know why all want to avoid their losses. You remember your One city challenge using french? You builld walls, you discovered Angkor wat (and you took democracy from great pyramids), I have taken Japanese and China, you was left of me and you tried to attack me with an army of knights and catapults, India was right of me. You remember now? And it HAPPENED ;)


I won't be your enemy, only I hate these things, you are a friend for me

However, other things I have found:

When they have to go the first turn
When they see you have taken the first capital
When they see their xbox doesn't work
When the game is frozen they quit the first turn

And one OT:

When you beat them, they still wait to make you quit before them

I think you may have gotten some of the specifics wrong, but we did play once yes, and I did lose. Maybe this will refresh your memory, since I recall the game quite well. First, that was the one and only game where I decided to try playing something besides Zulu intentionally, so I was in uncharted territory. I wanted to see if their cannon bonus, along with culture, could be used well in H2H. I started in a horrible area surrounded by desert, and you had your capital on top of a hill at a critical choke point. I couldn't get past, no matter what I tried, and your military kept winning battles that they shouldn't have. I came very close to getting your capital, remember? :)

Either way, it was one of my two legit losses, and I ended up leaving the game yes, only because I was certain there was no way to turn the game around. Most people would have quit that game in the first five minutes, but I recall sticking around for at least 30 mins before finally coming to the conclusion that there was just no way to bounce back anymore.

Wow, and all they had to do was make sure their city was on a hill and keep an archer army or two stationed inside.

Subtowner tried that strat on me 4-5 days ago, and ended up quitting after losing his vet horseman army to my archers. It was pretty damn funny, especially because he also had spies. Granted, my archers in my 2nd city should not have won the battle given the odds after my fortification had been broken, but they did, and then he completely gave up and quit.

The problem here is, he quit prematurely. There was still plenty of hope for him to try to win, but I guess he wasn't satisfied with anything less than a quick 5 minute win. I stick it out even under the worst conditions, just incase I can pull things together. I guess that's why I'm ranked #2, and he's not. :)

[MorteEterna]

I think you may have gotten some of the specifics wrong, but we did play once yes, and I did lose. Maybe this will refresh your memory, since I recall the game quite well. First, that was the one and only game where I decided to try playing something besides Zulu intentionally, so I was in uncharted territory. I wanted to see if their cannon bonus, along with culture, could be used well in H2H. I started in a horrible area surrounded by desert, and you had your capital on top of a hill at a critical choke point. I couldn't get past, no matter what I tried, and your military kept winning battles that they shouldn't have. I came very close to getting your capital, remember? :)

Either way, it was one of my two legit losses, and I ended up leaving the game yes, only because I was certain there was no way to turn the game around. Most people would have quit that game in the first five minutes, but I recall sticking around for at least 30 mins before finally coming to the conclusion that there was just no way to bounce back anymore.

Are you talking about the first time, ancient era? If that, I attacked you (on my territory) while I was sending an army to Japan and China, and I took the settler free. However you used French, not Zulu, and there were Arabs, French, Indians, Japanese and Chinese. However I was thinking about that..

[TheMystic]

I just received another loss from a freeze-up, right before I was about to take the player's capital, and shortly after I had taken over the Arabs and switched to Fundamentalism. So I'm at his capital with infiltrator ninja warriors with fundamentalism behind them, and the game freezes. The guy then ignores my messages on Live, sat in the game for over 2 hours before leaving, then when I left I got the loss and he got the win. I am really starting to think that people know of a way to intentionally freeze up games, and then get wins.

It's really starting to tick me off, especially because I'd be at least 50 points over Mr Game Theory if this didn't keep happening.

[MorteEterna]

And what would I say that I lost about 600 points for bugs, game frozen and disconnected games? (364 from only a game, other about 3 for game frozen and others for game disconnected). There isn't a way I think, only there are a lot of problems. However They quit also when they see a lot of armies but they can beat them. Today I had another french with only 1 city, I used 2 armies and one was ninja, but he couldn't do nothing.

[surgicalassasin]

I never quit, but have had countless people do it. It's actually pretty dumb in my opinion since you can always pull together a win even when you're behind. I'm ranked #2 on the head to head ladder right now, and may even get ahead of Mr. Game Theory today.

Out of the 100 plus combined games I've played on FFA and HTH, I have had probably 10 wins where I was significantly behind.

Either way, it was one of my two legit losses, and I ended up leaving the game yes, only because I was certain there was no way to turn the game around. Most people would have quit that game in the first five minutes, but I recall sticking around for at least 30 mins before finally coming to the conclusion that there was just no way to bounce back anymore.

Hmmmmm .. !!!

PS: Not to attack u m8 .. just could not stop admiring the irony ;)

[Latty]

I just received another loss from a freeze-up, right before I was about to take the player's capital, and shortly after I had taken over the Arabs and switched to Fundamentalism. So I'm at his capital with infiltrator ninja warriors with fundamentalism behind them, and the game freezes. The guy then ignores my messages on Live, sat in the game for over 2 hours before leaving, then when I left I got the loss and he got the win. I am really starting to think that people know of a way to intentionally freeze up games, and then get wins.

It's really starting to tick me off, especially because I'd be at least 50 points over Mr Game Theory if this didn't keep happening.
I froze 1 time and had to quit due to a endless waiting for player sign on numerous occasions:( . i only waited 2 mins though. lol 2 HOURS:D

[jeffrocksteady]

Back to topic...RANT AT END

It's 1000AD, things are rocking along. Lots of gold. Lots of Production. Just got two great people in 2 turns. Life is good. Dasein is content.

Microphone crackles...
...Panicked breath.

"It's time for BED!!!"

"COME ON MOM!!!!"

5 minutes later, GAME OVER.

Come on kids...let the big boys play the late night Civ matches please.

See you on the Map.

~Dasein X37~

TheMystic
MorteEterna
exclamatio
You guys need to find a forum for all your ridiculous bickering. There are ways to deal with this situation.

*You guys are good. You seem to take this serious in general. Photo evidence is good proof. I know all y'all have cameras, or at least camera phones. Not the best to use but i don't see how just rambling off your version of what went down in a game has any relevance. If you want to actually PROVE you are good, help get a ladder set up, or start bringing some hard evidence to the table...even multiple players from the game to back you. Everyone who cares about thier rank should be keeping track of who they play, when, and all the info(who dropped when, lags, whiny chat)

All suggestions my friends...in the spirt of getting some genuine, honorable, and exciting gameplay.

[TheeDarkNight]

Getting back to topic...

I experienced this reason for a quit yesterday and it made me smile all day long

- When a newbie realizes that, unlike in single player, a democracy in multiplayer doesn't actually have to talk to (and therefore come to peace with) you after you've declared war on him/her

HAHA this guy whined and whined for about 5 minutes, spamming me with requests to speak with me, before stating "its not fair" and quiting. HAHAHA

[Hodory]

Since this game takes a while to finish, unlike a lot of online FPS games, I can understand people having to leave because of real-life situations. However, it does suck on team games because once your partner leaves, you are left with an AI as your ally who is totally incapable compared to a capable human player.

I've had to bail on a couple of unranked team games, and I felt so bad for my ally player. So I told myself not to play team unless I was sure I would be absolutely free to commit myself to finishing it.

[MorteEterna]

When you destroy a lot of buildings using spies (happened to me this morning).. I had an idea because I have got the free spy from their tech, so I had a city with barracks, I built others 4 spies and moved them to a cruiser, so I have moved also an achers army. I moved them into a hill from 2 tiles from Athens. So he has seen my spies and moved 3 pikemen to block them. I used archers to kill one (naval support 3, + foundamentalism) and a warrior that had 6 (not an army) to kill one other, so I started to destroy his buildings (I destroyed 5), so he dropped after that.. But I understand :D