If BioShock II is a sequel, what are some ideas for it?

[Blue Lightning]

Here are my ideas incase it is a sequel..which I hope it is.

I think that you arrive to Rapture from a different direction, for another award winning opening. This time you dock on the other side of the broken utopia. Now, you will be in a different part of the city, and face new challenges and new enemies. Here are a few of my ideas.


Ideas for 3 new enimies


***LEPRECHAUN SPLICERS***

These splicers had used a shrink plasmid, originally designed to shirnk a splicer so they could get into the vents and go after the little sisters, but the antidote was destroyed after the civil war, so now these splicers live in the vents. You must be very careful not to stray too close to the vents. These very dangerous splicers are called Leprechaun splicers (because they are small and collect loot), and they could emit a powerful eletrical jolt. They speicialize in looting dead splicers, and are rarley seen outside their vents. However, if you can sneak up on one while it is looting and catch it, it will give you the loot if you let it go (like a leprecahn would in Irish fables). Mabey it will remember you if you run accross it later in the game, and even help you!


***PASSIVE SPLICERS***

Also, there could be another new type of splicer that does not attack you, and if you move close to it it might say "what the hell are you looking at?", or something like that, called the passive splicer. If you decide to attack it, it will fight you like any other splicer. But if you do not, then you take a risk. Some of them might attack you from behind...but some of them will not attack you, and even help you later on if you run across it later in the game! Giving us a new twist on AI like that could be very revolutionary.


***ZOMBIE SPLICERS***

And of course I have already explained the dreaded zombie splicers. These could be seen in one part of Rapture (one level only), where a scientist was working on a plasmid to bring the dead to life. The result: zombie plasmid. The story could be that Ryan warned against research of such a plasmid, but the scientest continued development anyway since this was just after the civil war of '59, and he wanted protection against hostile splicers that might stray to his part of Rapture. However, when you arrive you discover through audiologs that the zombies turned on him, and now terrorize the level. It could be the most horrifying level in the game.


These 3 ideas would work good in a sequel IMO, although some of you might think they sound silly. This thread is for any ideas for a sequel, wether it is enemies, or level design, or story, or whatever. So, anyone else have any ideas of what a good sequel should look like?

[Panek]

LEPRECHAUN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechaun).

[BioShock Freak]

Lmao. :D
~Mari.

[thesuperjman]

no. zombies will ruin the game. "rawr ill walk at one second per hour towards you but look out! somehow im still gonna eat ya!"

[FtRapture]

I just have to ask and I mean no offense is this is a joke or are these serious?

[Blue Lightning]

It's serious.

I mean everybody has been screamin about a prequel, as if there is nothing fresh that could be offered for a sequel. I am trying to point out that there are MORE possibilities with a sequel than a prequel. Almost anything could be created for a sequel, and all kinds of new story-lines could evolve. And besides, all good FPS have zombies...

[zoegrmon]

I think that the movie will cover a prequal and before Jack came back, and Bioshock 2 will be a sequal.

But a MMO would be amazing!

Just think you could choose to be on Ryan or Fontaine's side, see more of Rapture than any other game could show in a realistic manner (a FPS can't show you a whole world without boring you at some point) an MMO would make Rapture real! I mean you would be a citizen of the city! I can't imagine making the thousands of items most MMO's have, or Boss battles. But it would be amazing!

[ZiLLa]

I think that the movie will cover a prequal and before Jack came back, and Bioshock 2 will be a sequal.

But a MMO would be amazing!

Just think you could choose to be on Ryan or Fontaine's side, see more of Rapture than any other game could show in a realistic manner (a FPS can't show you a whole world without boring you at some point) an MMO would make Rapture real! I mean you would be a citizen of the city! I can't imagine making the thousands of items most MMO's have, or Boss battles. But it would be amazing!

..HIGH FIVE!

[JoJonathan]

IF the BAD ending is the game's sequal: Jack arrives to New york smiling at the sight and then causing chaos with his superfied adam filed body and sploicers, then a view of th lincoln monument with a thrown placed where lincoln once sat and now mainly destroyed and humiliated, Jack laughs as it shows the city changed into some sort of consentration camp. You hear jack say something about how he does have a purpose ect. Then it shows teninbaums view.

She is talking about how she had DNA of Jack and created a child after him to fight since there was no one to go to who could possibly fight Jack, it shows a timeline of both, showing the world outside getting worst, with other countrys being invaded, and failed airstrikes and other attacks against Jack, Sploicer scientist's were taking children to make into the little sisters ect. finally the main character is to set off to fight Jack given information on a organization to go to for plans to stop Jack and change things back, the group wear suites much like the bigdaddys but more man sized and less bulky.

Mainly calm and trying to save people by leaving in squads to snatch people and hospitalize to whatever they can to make them more human again instead of insane villains, the group is somehow connected to tinnenbaum ect and the maincharacter works with them, while there is 3 other groups after you, one is of a mafia group who offers weapons ect. another is a religious group who offer information and possible plasmids, and the third is an unknown group who offer everything but will not speak of who they are.

While the character is ment to stay for the good ending with the Scientist group you can choose others. The goal is mainly getting info, saving people unless there unsavable, and finding a weapon that no evil could withstand. Mainly fighting sploicers to mutated animals, a biker gang that use chainsaw staffs, other citizens that have made cults or just plain insane killers. A twist ending of course one with Andrew Ryan, another with little sissters, ect.

[HeadlessThompsonGunner]

IF the BAD ending is the game's sequal: Jack arrives to New york smiling at the sight and then causing chaos with his superfied adam filed body and sploicers, then a view of th lincoln monument with a thrown placed where lincoln once sat and now mainly destroyed and humiliated, Jack laughs as it shows the city changed into some sort of consentration camp. You hear jack say something about how he does have a purpose ect. Then it shows teninbaums view.

She is talking about how she had DNA of Jack and created a child after him to fight since there was no one to go to who could possibly fight Jack, it shows a timeline of both, showing the world outside getting worst, with other countrys being invaded, and failed airstrikes and other attacks against Jack, Sploicer scientist's were taking children to make into the little sisters ect. finally the main character is to set off to fight Jack given information on a organization to go to for plans to stop Jack and change things back, the group wear suites much like the bigdaddys but more man sized and less bulky.

Mainly calm and trying to save people by leaving in squads to snatch people and hospitalize to whatever they can to make them more human again instead of insane villains, the group is somehow connected to tinnenbaum ect and the maincharacter works with them, while there is 3 other groups after you, one is of a mafia group who offers weapons ect. another is a religious group who offer information and possible plasmids, and the third is an unknown group who offer everything but will not speak of who they are.

While the character is ment to stay for the good ending with the Scientist group you can choose others. The goal is mainly getting info, saving people unless there unsavable, and finding a weapon that no evil could withstand. Mainly fighting sploicers to mutated animals, a biker gang that use chainsaw staffs, other citizens that have made cults or just plain insane killers. A twist ending of course one with Andrew Ryan, another with little sissters, ect.

I stopped reading after "Tanenbaum creates a child of Jack to fight Jack."

No... just... no.

I would rather have leprechauns and zombies rather than any of the above quoted material.

Also... NO sequal, prequal, or ANYTHING not set miles underwater.

On threat of me hitting someone with a wrench.

[Would You Kindly?]

Ah that people is why I'm really glad community suggestions never make it!

No offense buddy the ideas are VERY original and well thought of (although why would Fontaine Futuristics release a plasmid that would kill his own Little Sisters?), but I just don't think dwarfs and zombie's fit in Rapture.

[Blue Lightning]

Well it could be a fresh twist lol :D. Just think, if a sequel took place on the other side of Rapture, you could be a new arrival (so you would not be jack), and there wouldnt be a need to "explain" what happened at the end of BioShock I. It could be a new world really. The story could be that the little sisters traveled to the other side of the city to be close to Tennenbaum years before, so your side of the city has no little sisters anyway, no matter how the last Bioshock ended. There could still be big daddies...mabey they roam around by themselves and attack if you get too close. Or mabey the protect these "dwarfs" I was talking about that now live in the vents. I don't know, I'm just saying that a whole new story could emerge you know?

I do agree that no matter what we come up with, it is unlikely to influence anything that 2K Marin is working on....

[JoJonathan]

I stopped reading after "Tanenbaum creates a child of Jack to fight Jack."

No... just... no.

I would rather have leprechauns and zombies rather than any of the above quoted material.

Also... NO sequal, prequal, or ANYTHING not set miles underwater.

On threat of me hitting someone with a wrench.

Well excuse me, I was just telling an idea, much like your fairy tale Ideas I was having fun, now if you would kindly go run infront of a speeding vehicle. Thanks :)

[JoJonathan]

Another Idea could be that Rapture had someone higher then Andrew Ryana who had another rapture, his though is only just begining to go insane, your a new arrival and you enter welcomed and greeted to go eat at a welcome dinner party for all new arrivals, while there you see Bigdaddys that were cancled and those we have seen working on rapture outside.

While the announcer is greeting everyone he calls your character up to introduce you (it would seem your character is more important then the rest) an applause of excitement is heard forcing you to not hear your name only the statement "Would you kindly give MR. (insertname) (cheering)".

Suddenly a group arrives wearing fine cloths and having there arms crossed, Your character starts to panic when bullets are fired and the large and thick glass roof collapses with a submarine crassing through it slamming onto a large portion of the audience.

You turn to see this mafia group helping each other up and one in particulare crouched over with a pissed off look, he pulls out a walter ppk and takes aim but a bigdaddy arrives with security bots at the site of the weapon that a securit camera spoted, you climb on stage do to the flooding and help up the announcer up where he attempts to help get you and others to safety but mainly you, then the game begins. Thats all I could think of really so far since I just thought of it heh this is fun.

[WrenchMaster]

All those splicer ideas in the OP sound like jokes :rolleyes: This is a sci-fi bordering on reality, not Smash Bros.

[Blue Lightning]

LOL. If 3 years ago I told you there would be a game that takes place in an underwater city with big monsters in diving suits walking around with little girls that have orange eyes, what would you of said?

[Would You Kindly?]

Well it could be a fresh twist lol :D. Just think, if a sequel took place on the other side of Rapture, you could be a new arrival (so you would not be jack), and there wouldnt be a need to "explain" what happened at the end of BioShock I. It could be a new world really. The story could be that the little sisters traveled to the other side of the city to be close to Tennenbaum years before, so your side of the city has no little sisters anyway, no matter how the last Bioshock ended. There could still be big daddies...mabey they roam around by themselves and attack if you get too close. Or mabey the protect these "dwarfs" I was talking about that now live in the vents. I don't know, I'm just saying that a whole new story could emerge you know?

If Bioshock 2 is gonna be a follow up I think you are pretty close my friend. I can't see no other way then to show other parts of rapture that Jack just didn't visited (cause he was going only for Ryan to get out if you look at it).

There is also a rumor that Bioshock 2 could taken place on land at the factories where all stuff is build to be shipped down to Rapture, nothing official though as this rumor was aired after an art student showed his project online.

Another Idea could be that Rapture had someone higher then Andrew Ryana who had another rapture, his though is only just begining to go insane, your a new arrival and you enter welcomed and greeted to go eat at a welcome dinner party for all new arrivals, while there you see Bigdaddys that were cancled and those we have seen working on rapture outside.

While the announcer is greeting everyone he calls your character up to introduce you (it would seem your character is more important then the rest) an applause of excitement is heard forcing you to not hear your name only the statement "Would you kindly give MR. (insertname) (cheering)".

Suddenly a group arrives wearing fine cloths and having there arms crossed, Your character starts to panic when bullets are fired and the large and thick glass roof collapses with a submarine crassing through it slamming onto a large portion of the audience.

You turn to see this mafia group helping each other up and one in particulare crouched over with a pissed off look, he pulls out a walter ppk and takes aim but a bigdaddy arrives with security bots at the site of the weapon that a securit camera spoted, you climb on stage do to the flooding and help up the announcer up where he attempts to help get you and others to safety but mainly you, then the game begins. Thats all I could think of really so far since I just thought of it heh this is fun.

The happy pills just kicked in? I rather want Big Daddies dancing limbo, having those suggested dwarfs and zombie splichers then that...

[Blue Lightning]

If Bioshock 2 is gonna be a follow up I think you are pretty close my friend. I can't see no other way then to show other parts of rapture that Jack just didn't visited (cause he was going only for Ryan to get out if you look at it).

Yeah, it would have to take place on the other side of the city, a part almost cut off from the rest of Rapture mabey.



Ah that people is why I'm really glad community suggestions never make it!

No offense buddy the ideas are VERY original and well thought of (although why would Fontaine Futuristics release a plasmid that would kill his own Little Sisters?), but I just don't think dwarfs and zombie's fit in Rapture.

Mabey Fontaine didn't release the plasmid. Mabey another enemy of Fontaine that we do not know about yet did...and mabey this other "enemy" is the boss we would fight at the end of BioShock II ;) How about that for some story?!

And the zombies...well on that level you would have to use the zombie plasmid on yourself at one point, so you could turn into a zombie and fool the other zombies and get by them...

You see what I mean? (even if it does sound a bit silly)

You turn to see this mafia group helping each other up and one in particulare crouched over with a pissed off look, he pulls out a walter ppk and takes aim but a bigdaddy arrives with security bots at the site of the weapon that a securit camera spoted, you climb on stage do to the flooding and help up the announcer up where he attempts to help get you and others to safety but mainly you, then the game begins. Thats all I could think of really so far since I just thought of it heh this is fun.

Ok. another story, good! Anyone else have some ideas for a sequel?

[Aluc]

Ideas, ideas...hmm, let's see.

How about the prequel to Bioshock "Fall of Rapture" begins something like with Andrew Ryan giving a huge speech to a big audience in the center of the city about the accomplishments of Rapture and a dream come true. You are of course somewhere in the background, totally disrupted by a little girl who's calling up to her mother of not being able to see. You make your way through the crowd to get some fresh air. While Ryan's going on about the success of the city, there's an explosion just meters left of you which throws you into the nearby canal system. The screen goes black. You later awake in the sewers, shaken up. You feel the need to pick up a wrench which you use later to open a gate that leads out of the sewers. As you exit the sewers and arrive at the center of Rapture, you see a gruesome image. There are buildings totally destroyed, but most importantly, there are dead people lying around the place. Some of the people appear to be fighting against each other. It looks like a city in chaos. There's one person which starts running at you and appears to want to kill you. You of course are fully on scarred for you life and use your wrench to knock the person to the ground. Most importantly, you see the person fall with more than 30fps.:D To your horror, the person appears to have mutated in some way. Also some of the dead people lying around appear to have mutated. You immediately check yourself out and appear not to have been affected to whatever happened to the other folks. From here on you make your way through the city to search for answers and hopefully a way to the surface.

Not bad for a start eh?

[FtRapture]

Ideas, ideas...hmm, let's see. Ideas....

Not bad for a start eh?

Well what you are describing would more than likely be a prequel which although rumored is headed to be confirmed but makes no sense as a sequel.

Aside from that I like the idea, it sounds like a fun game but it doesn't sound like a Bioshock game other than characters. Also I hope there are no sewer levels.

[Blue Lightning]

A prequel is not confirmend. No information has been released by 2K Marin about that.

[wangho]

I know, it could be a prequel and we see Rapture in its glory while its thriving. Jack will have a job at the city core and we see him rotating gears or something. I know... he could be a mechanic and he goes around with his wrench fixing things in Rapture.

Of course, there will be thousands of NPC's and most of the game could consist of a bunch of conversations since Rapture is thriving and everything and it's 'before the fall.' Then we can see a bunch of scripted sequences with people trying out new plasmids for the first time. A few more levels can go by with conversations and fixing machinery, and then people start going crazy.

The last level can consist of the fall of Rapture and then Jack gets a Tommygun. The END. Yes, a prequal is a GREAT idea, so much fun and a great haunting atmosphere since everything would be brightly lit and everything is in pristine working order. NPC's will be all over the place with friendly people to talk to. We all know that these things creates a great atmosphere.

Geez, Blue Lightning is the only one in this place with a clue. It's gotta be a sequel and a different section of Rapture. A new adventure with a different lead character. Maybe they can start on a cruiseliner that gets bombed and it starts sinking and you swim out of the vessel and come across a different entry point.

[wangho]

Wait, wait, wait. How about this idea. Bioshock 2 starts with some type of flashback with Jack on the Bioshock 1 side of Rapture. He gets some type of warning about This other section of Rapture that has been condemned long ago from something even more sinister and should not be accessible. This is where the new arrival comes in for Bioshock 2. This other, weirder, more sinister side of Rapture. Maybe there is a more aggressive, bigger, badder psycho type of Big daddy prototype that runs rampant.

This short intro flashback to Bioshock 1 explaining a bit of this forbidden zone could be quite freaky before your arrival to this section of Rapture

*EDIT* Another idea could be that this other side of Rapture was condemned because the technology was older and outdated and we see 1920's or 1930's decor in this condemned area. Yet, splicers sought this area and decided to re-establish some twisted society in this new area. Ideas to ponder...

[Blue Lightning]

I know, it could be a prequel and we see Rapture in its glory while its thriving. Jack will have a job at the city core and we see him rotating gears or something. I know... he could be a mechanic and he goes around with his wrench fixing things in Rapture.

LOL Of course! He can fix things and have lunch breaks with Rapture citizens! lololol :rolleyes:

The last level can consist of the fall of Rapture and then Jack gets a Tommygun. The END. Yes, a prequal is a GREAT idea, so much fun and a great haunting atmosphere since everything would be brightly lit and everything is in pristine working order.

Yeah, it is what I have been saying all along...a "prequel" wouldn't even be BioShock anymore.

Wait, wait, wait. How about this idea. Bioshock 2 starts with some type of flashback with Jack on the Bioshock 1 side of Rapture. He gets some type of warning about This other section of Rapture that has been condemned long ago from something even more sinister and should not be accessible. This is where the new arrival comes in for Bioshock 2. This other, weirder, more sinister side of Rapture. Maybe there is a more aggressive, bigger, badder psycho type of Big daddy prototype that runs rampant.

Now that's an idea! That's what I'm talking about, some fresh ideas that would make a sequel very interesting. You and I are probebly not too far off with the stuff we are talking about. If it is a sequel, it will be interesting to see which of our ideas will most closley match what we end up getting. But your next idea is is the best of all:

*EDIT* Another idea could be that this other side of Rapture was condemned because the technology was older and outdated and we see 1920's or 1930's decor in this condemned area. Yet, splicers sought this area and decided to re-establish some twisted society in this new area. Ideas to ponder...

:D I LOVE IT! That's the way to go for 2K right there! In other words we know that Rapture was complete in 1946, so it must of been started long before that. Perhaps in the 1920's. This would open up a whole can of worms. In that section of Rapture, the spooky "off limits area", it would be 1920's decor and the writings and posters in 1920's font. Posters of women with the short "bob" hair style and the bell hats...and the music would be from the 20's, which could add even more eerieness to the atmosphere! Mabey we wander into a movie theater there, and a silent picture is running... That section could be at least one level, and we would see things not seen anywhere else in Rapture!

When I talked of the horrifying "zombie level" (including the gatheres garden machine with the little sister statues having wicked smiles on their face and rotton teeth), I was trying to create the same feeling that your talking about with your "20's level". A level that is even weirder than the rest of Rapture...I mean, so off the wall.

[wangho]

good, I'm glad we were finally able to shoot this idea of a prequel in the head and put it to rest. It's as if you dont' even know what you're asking for. You're requesting blandness with this ridiculous prequel fetish.

Ok, so Bioshock is about the 20's and 30's and Blue Lightning...I love the idea of a silent film theatre. That is very fitting! Then, Bioshock 3 (since they are planning a series) could revolve around a futuristic portion of Rapture that was never unveiled to the public since things started going nuts, but the 'new' Rapture is in working order. This new Rapture is based on silly futuristic 'World Of Tomorrow' propaganda that was rampant in the 1950's, like robots that washed your dishes, toaster ovens that retract into the cupboard, tv's that you had to enter coin money into to view (a very real issue at one point in history), just wacky 50's mentality futuristic ideas can breathe some creativity in a future Bioshock

[Dr. Locke]

Guys, Bioshock 2 has been confirmed a prequel from a press release form within 2k. They have released information that they are currently in the Pre-Planning stage and the plot has been set events before Bioshock. So it is a prequel.

[Blue Lightning]

Oh? How about a link to prove that?

[Dr. Locke]

Lightning, watch your mouth. I know for a fact that it will be a prequel and no body said you had to trust me. And I don't care if you do or not. But Bioshock 2 will be a prequel.

[Blue Lightning]

Lightning, watch your mouth. I know for a fact that it will be a prequel and no body said you had to trust me.

Watch my mouth? You must be kidding me.

It isn't about trust. When a piece of information is presented about an upcoming game by a player, that player has a responsibility to provide some kind of conformation. Otherwise, the "new information" is only speculation at best, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[WrenchMaster]

He's right, Doc. Just because you have Dr. in your name it doesn't give you any special authority, and he has the right to ask you, considering it IS his thread about a sequel.

That aside, YAY. PREQUEL.

[wangho]

That aside, YAY. PREQUEL.

you still don't see the ramifications. *sigh*

[Dr. Locke]

Would everyone please observe subject 2A. Please observe how Blue Lightning asked for proof. He asked in a snotty, jerky tone. Perhaps if he had been a bit more kind, I would have provided him with the actual link. Even if he didn't mean it, the tone he set was uncalled for.

[WrenchMaster]

No, he didn't, not really. You can only say that if he had SAID it, not typed it. And you really do need a link, otherwise it is merely your word, however much people choose to believe that.

And wangho, there are no ramifications. All the facts point a prequel (and so does the money).

[Dr. Locke]

wrenchmaster, I am not sure when you entered the conversation, but you are a very opposing force. Now we could argue all day about this, but lets not. You agree that it will be a prequel as do I. Lightning, it is not going to be a sequel, it has already been confirmed a prequel. I do not remember where I saw this because it was a very long time ago. And that right there is enough said. If anyone brings this up again, then you are way to argumentative.

[wangho]

so you're the only one that is privy to this information? Other Bioshock fans aren't in 'the know.' I'm betting that what you read is not official and came from an unreliable source.

Wrenchmaster, that is just BS. A prequel destroys the ambiguity that a game like this thrives on. That's like finally finding out what the space jockey in Alien was doing on LV-426 and going to it's homeworld. There's more to a great story than just 'story.'

[Dr. Locke]

wangho, Lightning, I am terribly sorry. It is going to be a prequel. Sorry.:(

[Blue Lightning]

wrenchmaster, I am not sure when you entered the conversation, but you are a very opposing force.

And?

Lightning, it is not going to be a sequel, it has already been confirmed a prequel.

Oh...ok. Since you say it is, that's good enough I guess. :rolleyes:

But since I disagree, and since this thread is about a "possible sequel", would you kindly...well, you know what I mean.

This has nothing to do with your crediability. I'm sure your a credible person. But mabey you heard about a prequel from someone, and that person was making it up, or mabey the website you read said something about a possible prequel and you read it out of context, or mabey a dozen other things, you see? Not backing up information with some factual confermation cannot be taken seriously. If people accepted new information without any backup, then trolls would invade the forums and make up all kinds of stuff.

like I have stated before, a prequel would be highly unlikley, since no FPS game has done a prequel since "Spear of Destiny" (1992). So, would you like to share some ideas about what a sequel might be like (if it turns out to be a sequel), or would you rather abandon this thread? Please pick one.

Thanks.

[WrenchMaster]

Wrenchmaster, that is just BS. A prequel destroys the ambiguity that a game like this thrives on. That's like finally finding out what the space jockey in Alien was doing on LV-426 and going to it's homeworld. There's more to a great story than just 'story.'

That doesn't make any sense. 1, we don't know the full story, 2, there's a huge open area for a new and exciting gameplay experience, 3, a lot of people want a sequel, and the producers would want to make people happy so they buy it, 4, the first site to claim they knew of a prequel before it was officially confirmed stated it would be a prequel.

[Blue Lightning]

the first site to claim they knew of a prequel before it was officially confirmed stated it would be a prequel.

It was never confirmed! If you would like to disscuss a possible prequel, then please make a thread about it. This thread is about a possible sequel.

EDIT: A prequel would be a disaster in my opinion. And I'm being serious.

[Dr. Locke]

Why discuss a possible sequel if its going to be a prequel?

[Blue Lightning]

Just leave the thread. I didn't make the thread so you could troll it, which is what you are now doing.

[Dr. Locke]

I just didn't want you to be disappointed on the day of the release. I know you hate the idea of a prequel, but just try to consider it.

I will leave your thread.

[Blue Lightning]

I'll consider it a sequel. But thanks for finally stopping the prequel talk, your certainly welcome back here if you would like to talk about possible events in a sequel however.

I think that the sequel can offer a multitude of ideas. Mabey wangho's idea about a different kind of Big Daddy, really holds sand. Mabey this different prototype may have emerged from the old 20's/30's level. And wango, the idea of a "futuristic Rapture" is another stealler idea. Mabey that too could be in BioShock II. All of that stuff from the 50's...the same stuff that inspired the Jetsons cartoon. Mabey a futuristic Big Daddy? :D

[BioShock Freak]

OK people, enough. Sorry to be a party pooper, but this has gone far enough.
This is what Blue Lightning said:

Oh? How about a link to prove that?

Does this sound like he's being a snobby jerk? No. It was a simple question and there's no need for all the bickering. Any more outburts like these, and the thread will be closed.
~Mari.

[Minalkra]

Well, I've signed up specifically to tell someone this idea. For most of the forum members, I feel it will be regarded with utmost contempt but for the rare few, I think it may be an interesting side thought.

BioShock as an MMO. The industry itself is ripe for a playable Sci-Fi MMO but thus far, ALL attempts have failed miserably. Tabula Rasa is clunky and uninteresting, SWG is horribly managed, and most of the others I can name off the top of my head are either canceled or otherwise vaporware. BioShock could perfectly fit into this niche. Plasmids give a 'magic' system without resorting to nonsense about words of power, the existence of melee-centric Big Daddies allows for an ACTUALLY PLAYABLE melee Sci-Fi class and, of course, you have guns aplenty.

The game itself should be situated away from Rapture. Perhaps taking the 'bad end' to the extreme, a world war where Rapture has brought the planet to it's knees. Jack, powered by the ADAM Fontaine accumulated, creates a Cult of Rapture across the globe, speaking to the disenfranchised and mystic-seeking New Agers as well as those burdened by war or poverty. Using the same methods his father did, he manages to destroy most of the nations arrayed against him save the twin super powers, America and Russia. Even these, he brings to their knees and though they coordinate their military and production efforts, going so far as to adopt Plasmid production themselves, they are unable to break his grip on the world. It's only when Tennenbaum launches an attack at him from Rapture itself, freeing the majority of the Little Ones, that his advance is halted.

This is where the player comes in. Choosing one of three possible sides, the player must either help Jack in his conquest, help the surface world free itself or help Tennenbaum save the innocents of the world from the ravages of ADAM. Power, survival or sacrifice for a greater cause. Your life, your choice.

[wangho]

That doesn't make any sense. 1, we don't know the full story, 2, there's a huge open area for a new and exciting gameplay experience, 3, a lot of people want a sequel, and the producers would want to make people happy so they buy it, 4, the first site to claim they knew of a prequel before it was officially confirmed stated it would be a prequel.

we don't NEED to know the full story. You need to leave something to the imagination. What else do you really need to know? Who the financial backers were for Rapture? You get too technical with story and it just loses it's aura, especially in the case of a game like this. It's a little more special and above cliches.

Another cool point for a sequel, would be that you could see the areas that you visited in the first Bioshock by way of the enclosed walkways and see that maybe something weird is going on in the Bioshock 1 world of things. Yo u have all kinds of cool possibilites for a sequel, plus, you prequel hounds may find out more about Rapture via the message recorders. I really don't want this turn into a 'scripted event standing around talking to NPC's' kinda game and that is exactly what a prequel would have in store. I groan when I have to wait around 5 minutes before I can actually 'go'

[wangho]

well, the idea of a MMO is ok, but I don't really dig them


The game itself should be situated away from Rapture. Perhaps taking the 'bad end' to the extreme, a world war where Rapture has brought the planet to it's knees. Jack, powered by the ADAM Fontaine accumulated, creates a Cult of Rapture across the globe, speaking to the disenfranchised and mystic-seeking New Agers as well as those burdened by war or poverty. Using the same methods his father did, he manages to destroy most of the nations arrayed against him save the twin super powers, America and Russia. Even these, he brings to their knees and though they coordinate their military and production efforts, going so far as to adopt Plasmid production themselves, they are unable to break his grip on the world. It's only when Tennenbaum launches an attack at him from Rapture itself, freeing the majority of the Little Ones, that his advance is halted.

This is where the player comes in. Choosing one of three possible sides, the player must either help Jack in his conquest, help the surface world free itself or help Tennenbaum save the innocents of the world from the ravages of ADAM. Power, survival or sacrifice for a greater cause. Your life, your choice.

That turned me right off. Bigger...badder...dumber. You're jumping from Star Wars right into The Phantom Menace. We at least need an Empire Strikes Back before the cheese comes onto the scene. But this idea makes Rapture too well known and in the open. Please, no government involvement and no conspiracies. This story would bore me to tears. Too many cooks in the kitchen here with all this involvement with outside parties. A huge war...yuck. Sounds like a Michael Bay movie.

[Minalkra]

well, the idea of a MMO is ok, but I don't really dig them

That turned me right off. Bigger...badder...dumber. You're jumping from Star Wars right into The Phantom Menace. We at least need an Empire Strikes Back before the cheese comes onto the scene. But this idea makes Rapture too well known and in the open. Please, no government involvement and no conspiracies. This story would bore me to tears. Too many cooks in the kitchen here with all this involvement with outside parties. A huge war...yuck. Sounds like a Michael Bay movie.

I suppose you're right, in a way. BioShock thrilled not with the battles but rather, with the idea. It returns to a more pure form of FPS, as one player against a hostile world rather then the increasing tendency to load them down with squads and friendlies and the like. I disagree with you in a way, as an MMO NEEDS a large stage to be set in but, in the thought of BioShock AS MMO, you are correct. Any type of MMOing of this franchise would cut off the appeal to its core fans and not widen its appeal very much.

As a plot outline, it isn't very bad, though my view is skewed as it is wont to be. But as a BioShock II, it does need something in between if even this would be used, which not only do I doubt from a realistic perspective but also from a stylistic perspective. It changes too much too quickly. Though I must admit, WoW changed a great deal between it and the RTS games from which it stems.

Anyway, enough from this newbie. I politely and, with acknowledgment to wangho, withdraw my idea as a whole. I have no idea what BioShock II might hold but I would like to see.

[Blue Lightning]

Anyway, enough from this newbie. I politely and, with acknowledgment to wangho, withdraw my idea as a whole. I have no idea what BioShock II might hold but I would like to see.

There is no need to "withdraw" your ideas Minalkra, since all ideas are welcome on this thread(although you may get a lively debate from wangho on some of those ideas ;)) lol. But debate is what livens a thread...

I haven't got a chance to read all of your post yet, but I will and then comment on it. But as far as the MMO goes, did 2K say there will be a multiplayer for BioShock II?

[FtRapture]

There is no need to "withdraw" your ideas Minalkra, since all ideas are welcome on this thread(although you may get a lively debate from wangho on some of those ideas ;)) lol. But debate is what livens a thread...

I haven't got a chance to read all of your post yet, but I will and then comment on it. But as far as the MMO goes, did 2K say there will be a multiplayer for BioShock II?


Well you know how it goes, MMO (http://kotaku.com/372668/take+two-pondering-bioshock-mmo-movie) being "discussed" "rumors" really holding no merit.

If I had it my way I would love to see a sequel and maybe a new opposing force to battle, there were so many sidelined characters that could become really prominent in the sequel.

I really do not want to see Rapture all pristine and nice

[Blue Lightning]

Well you know how it goes, MMO (http://kotaku.com/372668/take+two-pondering-bioshock-mmo-movie) being "discussed" "rumors" really holding no merit.

If I had it my way I would love to see a sequel and maybe a new opposing force to battle, there were so many sidelined characters that could become really prominent in the sequel.

I really do not want to see Rapture all pristine and nice

Indeed.

BioShock depends on the fact that Rapture is a broken utopia. In that, a part of Rapture that is far from where we were before...a part that is cut off from where we were in BioShock 1, is the only thing that really makes sense.

[jokerthesplicer]

I got a good story:

You're this immigrant from coming to Miami then becomes involved with the drug business----you are tasked to rise to the top.
And in the last level, you have to survive an attack in your mansion, but in the end you must die by recieving a shotgun blast in the back.

[The Console King]

What's that got to do with bioshock? It might make a good game if tweaked but its not a bioshock sequel/prequel though?

[jokerthesplicer]

What's that got to do with bioshock? It might make a good game if tweaked but its not a bioshock sequel/prequel though?

ever seen Scarface buddy?

[Yazor4]

the passive splicers can give you beer and there would be turtles cats and dogs that can attack enemies all the animals are affected by those plasmids and ADAM yes the ADAM!!!!:rolleyes:

[The Console King]

ever seen Scarface buddy?

Sorry couldn't watch it I got really bored

[Septiroth0]

I think that there should be a sequel. However... I think that it should be a side story and not a continuation of the current one. I think that the current is good enough where it is and I would like to savor the taste of it for awhile. My idea for the side story would be to play as a person in Rapture and the game starts right before things go to H311.

[The Console King]

Yeah thats a good idea

[BucketBot]

I have never seen Scarface and even I knew what he was describing. :P That is one of those movies that everyone knows about.

[Justlookaway]

I've had my idea for a while look at The Typhon Chronicles on the official fanfic thread, one of my favorites actually. Basically, I would like to see Rapture restored to something beyond its former glory, something so powerful and frightening that the for a short time the cold war would have stopped in order to wait anxiously for the actions of Rapture (I dunno, maybe it could take place after the cold war, but I would like to think not).

How would this happen. I would say that Rapture would be taken over by a radical political faction, dedicated to taking away power from both superpowers in order to create a more balanced world. Then, they would declare war on the United States and the Soviet Union, creating and alliance an uneasy and shaky alliance.

That's just my silly pitch though, but I would definitely prefer a sequel over a prequel, I never really liked prequels because you always seem to know what's going to happen with a prequel. There aren't many big surprises.

[B10SH0CK1123]

Im not sure about the story line but what I have a pretty good felling about is that they will have new enemeys and hopefully new environments. I also think that it would be cool if thy would actually include a level or something that is sort of like a flashback to how the city was before it bacame corrupted. (Kind of like how Jack keeps seeing "Ghosts" throughout his adventure in Rapture) I think that would be a good idea becasue if they add that into the sequel it will give the people who play it a better idea of the tradgety that befel the city. I just think that would be interesting. I guess well just have to wait and see huh?:)

[Gardenfunkelrom]

I agree with headlessthompsongunner; whatever happens it should be underwater-thats one of the best things about bioshock, the way rapture has responded/evolved to exist underwater. Take that away and you're back in the real, boring, 1960's world...