Graphic difference

[vorob]

I’m just interested, all this screens they looks great, much better then gta4 but will we see the same graphic on xbox and ps3? Or developers will reduce because of luck of the performance for the consoles and we will see greater graphic only on PC version?

So, my final question is: Will there be any differences between X-Box 360, Ps3 and PC versions.

[oritxupolite]

Translation with translator online :confused:

In short walking travels one shows us the level of development of the three versions. PC, PS3 and Xbox360 version are finished paralell, a in such a way gennante Lead platform give it thus not. Nevertheless we recognize small differences: The PS3 version shows off with a mad distance vision. On the Xbox360 are ebreits more diagram filter in the use, whereby the optics more naturally works. The PC version is furthest.

[ArchangelX]

So, my final question is: Will there be any differences between X-Box 360, Ps3 and PC versions.

I for sure hope so, if the PC version is NOT better looking then the PS3 and Xbox 360 version it means that the PC version is not showing its maximum potential.

[Godfather1930]

I for sure hope so, if the PC version is NOT better looking then the PS3 and Xbox 360 version it means that the PC version is not showing its maximum potential.

PC version must overtake console at graphics. If it doesn't it would be a shame. I also hope that the game can take advantage of dual core or quad core processors.

[mg198242]

PC version must overtake console at graphics. If it doesn't it would be a shame. I also hope that the game can take advantage of dual core or quad core processors.
Me too. I have a Pentium C2D E6600 at 2.4GHz.

In a way I'm not interested if the PC version is better on graphics than consoles. I'm not selfish, but I really hope the devs make the game best possible for PC, and not "detune" the PC version because they didn't developed 2 versions, one for PC and one for PS3/XboX, so because of the consoles. Anyway, consoles are closing the gap to PCs more and more with every year, just take a look at GranTurismo 5. It's mad how those cars look!

[KuKuruzas]

PC versions are always better than console versions, graphics wise. No matter what game.

[CherryIcee]

Me too. I have a Pentium C2D E6600 at 2.4GHz.

Heh, a C2D is not a Pentium ;) It is Intel, but the Pentium line of cpus is not the same as the C2 line (which includes the C2D, C2Q and C2E.) Anyway, I'm sure it will have support for multiple cores. I hope so anyway, I've got an E6750 overclocked to 3.5GHz on air and it runs nice and cool even at load.

[Styvesant]

I'm expecting PC to take the lead in terms of graphics.

[mg198242]

Heh, a C2D is not a Pentium ;) It is Intel, but the Pentium line of cpus is not the same as the C2 line (which includes the C2D, C2Q and C2E.) Anyway, I'm sure it will have support for multiple cores. I hope so anyway, I've got an E6750 overclocked to 3.5GHz on air and it runs nice and cool even at load.
Yeah, you're right. It's Intel! I have 2 PCs and the older one has a P4 at 1.4GHz bought back in 2001 and everytime I tend to say Pentium to both, I forgot the new one is Intel.

[CherryIcee]

Sorry it if sounded like I was nitpicking, I was just tossing out a little info lol. Anyway the E6600 is still an excellent processor so you'll definitely be good to go cpu-wise :D

Btw, Intel makes both the Pentium and Core 2 cpus. :cool:

[mg198242]

Sorry it if sounded like I was nitpicking, I was just tossing out a little info lol. Anyway the E6600 is still an excellent processor so you'll definitely be good to go cpu-wise :D

Btw, Intel makes both the Pentium and Core 2 cpus. :cool:
No problemo!;)

[Styvesant]

Seems like Pentium is the way to go in terms of gaming, am I correct?

[CherryIcee]

ATM, the Core 2 cpus are the way to go as far as performance. Pentium is now two generations old and dying quickly lol.

[Styvesant]

Once again made a mistake of generalising Intel lol I meant Core 2. Always used AMD Dual Core, so yeah, kinda don't know crap about Intel.

[CherryIcee]

heh, yeah the AMD X2 line ruled the roost for along time, in fact the entire Athlon line was excellent, as was the Opteron line. Too bad AMD sorta botched things with the Phenom, I was really looking forward to some competition.

[Styvesant]

I was always very fond of AMD cos it was a great bang for buck, but after the 6000+ Intel took the lead, and being a gamer, I can only follow perfomance now, but I still think my 6000+ will be sufficient for a while...right?

[CherryIcee]

Absolutely, the 6000+ X2 is still a great processor and definitely has a lot of life left in it :D

[Styvesant]

Awesome :) luckily CPUs aren't like GPUs, otherwise, I would go out and buy a console right away lol

[sedlbob]

Mafia II is primary developed for "PC-console", so I think this version will be the best-one (a bit better in grafic).
But to run it on the highest possible resolution, with a far visibility and on the highest level of grafic you'll have to own the "upper" hi-end PC. So maybe it will be still better look for a new console.

I'm only hoping I'll run it with my "renovated pet".

[Dark-Wolf]

Yes i've read somewhere that the PC version is the best for high graphics. The game consoles can't beat the PC. So buy it for PC is much better for the graphics :) be sure you have a powerful graphics card! :D

[sedlbob]

That's right.
And now I'm totally sure that I'm not completely sure if I have the "sure" grafic card.
:D

[Styvesant]

Bah, I think i might need two 8800s for this lol

[sedlbob]

I'm sure medium detailes would be acceptable for me, but imagination of fully detailed city makes me nervous.

I still remember the time I was first playing the original Mafia at that PC. It was a pentium 2(333MHz) with MatroxMarvel g400 g-card, I was still raving that the game is ... cause it was jerking everytime. In a mission The Priest I gave it up. When I was loosing the cop tail I had to wait for 15 minutes to cut one turnsection.

I hope this not gonna happen.

[Styvesant]

I'm sure medium detailes would be acceptable for me, but imagination of fully detailed city makes me nervous.

I still remember the time I was first playing the original Mafia at that PC. It was a pentium 2(333MHz) with MatroxMarvel g400 g-card, I was still raving that the game is ... cause it was jerking everytime. In a mission The Priest I gave it up. When I was loosing the cop tail I had to wait for 15 minutes to cut one turnsection.

I hope this not gonna happen.
What are your system specs?

[sedlbob]

Meanwhile I have X2 4200 with 7600 grafic and 2GbRam, I know, it's not much, but I have run most of new games on medium detailes (crysis).
I will upgrade it for sure, but I don't know when, cause I still want to buy a laptop earlier. But it's a question of time.
I think I'm able to run it now anyway, not with such of detailes, but medium it could be.

[Styvesant]

Medium/Low, for sure, however Mafia is worth the highest graphics, so try to upgrade :)

[sedlbob]

I think I will have to.

[Dark-Wolf]

I'm going to buy a new PC too soon. Still searching some hardware and i'm also waiting till they lower the price. I'm going to buy 9800GX2 Black Edition :) Core 2 Quad 2.66Ghz and Kingston memory 4 GB 11000 or 13000 Mhz don't know yet, DDR3 of course. Just waiting the price... :(

[mg198242]

I think I'm giving up on having an ultra-high-special PC and playing Mafia II on max settings from the beginning. I bought my 2nd PC in spring 2007, then bought another HDD for this new PC of mine + a TFT monitor and a new Antec ATX case with power supply for my old PC, so some more money spent since then. I just want to play the game in 2008 (late) and on medium settings it's just fine, because I have the feeling that this game won't be "easier" on the PC than Crysis by any meanings. Basically I think I need to buy another PC to be able to play Mafia II on max settings.... and I won't do that, I don't have the money.
This is my rig:

- Antec case + 500W power supply
- Intel C2D E6600 @ 2.4GHz
- 4Gb DDR2 Corsair
- 2 x 250Gb Seagate Barracuda HDD
- Asus NVidia GeForce 8600GT 256Mb DDR3 OC

[Styvesant]

I think most ppl will, including me.

[mg198242]

I think most ppl will, including me.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I want to play Mafia II on highest settings too, but I think I need to.... rob a bank, in order to realise my dream. If it will be launched in spring/summer 2009 I think I'll change my VGA card til then, but I'm waiting for a release date confirmation, because I want to change my VGA card in the last moment; I hope the prices will fall with more than 30% before Mafia II it's launched.

[CherryIcee]

A lot of it depends on what resolution you will be playing in. If you're on an LCD that maxes at 1280x1024 or 1440x900 (widescreen) I doubt you'll need a 9800 GX2 to run highest settings smoothly, I'd be willing to bet a 9600GT would be adequate and also a 1/4 of the price. You'll see a huge jump in performance compared to the 8600GT which was unfortunately not the bang for your buck card that people had hoped it would be unlike the 7600GT which was an amazing card in terms of a mid-low end videocard that performed great for the price. Thankfully the 9600GT came through with a bang and turned it around :)

[Styvesant]

Mmm I've got a 22" 1680x1050 hence the reason I am a bit afraid atm lol

[CherryIcee]

I still think that even at 1680x1050, a 9600GT would run high/highest settings smoothly. All of this is conjecture of course since we have no idea what the min and rec specs will be lol. You might not be able to crank the AA/AF all the way but it should still look amazing. I'd say a 9800GTX would probably give you that extra boost with AA/AF cranked if you don't mind shelling out an extra $140-$150 for one of those as opposed to a 9600GT. At a max resolution of 1680x1050 I'm not sure you'd need a 9800GX2. EVGA has their step up program, so if you found that the 9600GT wasn't quite doing the job as well as you'd like you can step up to a higher card and only pay the difference.

Step-up Program (http://www.evga.com/stepup/)

[Styvesant]

I still think that even at 1680x1050, a 9600GT would run high/highest settings smoothly. All of this is conjecture of course since we have no idea what the min and rec specs will be lol. You might not be able to crank the AA/AF all the way but it should still look amazing. I'd say a 9800GTX would probably give you that extra boost with AA/AF cranked if you don't mind shelling out an extra $140-$150 for one of those as opposed to a 9600GT. At a max resolution of 1680x1050 I'm not sure you'd need a 9800GX2. EVGA has their step up program, so if you found that the 9600GT wasn't quite doing the job as well as you'd like you can step up to a higher card and only pay the difference.

Step-up Program (http://www.evga.com/stepup/)
Well, I have an XFX 320mb 8800GTS xXx, so I was thinking of SLi'ng, however I am having great difficulty in finding one more to be honest...only XFX for me :D

[CherryIcee]

Since the 320MB version is phased out, it's become an expensive card to buy and not at all worth the price (I found them for around $300-$400.) If that's the case get (2) 9600GTs for $330 and you'll be better off probably financially and definitely performance-wise then you would be with (2) 8800GTS 320MB cards ;)

[Styvesant]

Good advice gotta say, sad though, cos I thought that they would at least hit like $150, damn lol

So two 9600GTs, not the normal ones though, cos they seem to be quite small, how is their overclocking ability?

[CherryIcee]

Heh, you'll be pleased to hear that the 9600GTs are particularly good overclockers. Find on that has decent cooling and you can push it. The XFX cards come with pretty good HSF solutions, although I'd still remove the factory paste and use some Arctic Silver 5 on it. I'd go with two of the dual slot cards since they usually have better cooling than the single slot cards.

[Styvesant]

So I'm looking at Factory Overclocked cards then, something like the Alpha Dog edition, or Extreme Edition again?

Another thing, I can buy a 9800GTX 512mb Extreme Edition, for the price of two 9600GTS Extreme Edition, any thoughts on that?

[CherryIcee]

For almost all newer games the 9600GTs in SLI smoke the 9800GTX.

[Styvesant]

Well I'm looking at close to $500 ($460) for 2x XFX 9600GT xXx 512mb....and will need a new case, as well as PSU so $600-700 altogether. lawlll......not bad haha

[CherryIcee]

That's not bad at all :D I'm still trying to decide what I want to do for my next build. I'm running a C2D E6750 overclocked at 3.5GHz, 4GB of DDR2 1066, a 9800 GX2 with a Vista 64bit Ultimate/Windows Media Center dual boot setup. ATM, I'm using a 28" Samsung HDMI LCD with max res of 1920x1200 but I may go ahead and spring for a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor this summer. ATI is going to have some kickass cards coming out and I'm kinda waiting to see what develops there with the R770s

[Styvesant]

9800 GX2, good choice lol hahaha. nVidia is also coming out with the 9900s like 2 months after the release of the R770s?

By the way, nice rig, I'm lucky to have what I have with the income I get haha.

p.s Definitely go for the 30", the bigger the better, simple as that.

[CherryIcee]

Yeah, there should be a 9900GTX and a 9900GT (both GT200 based.) The 9900GTX is said to outperform the dual gpu 9800GX2 and the 9900GT will outperform the 9800GTX. The HD4870 (R770) also bests the 9800GX2 as well though by a healthy margin in early tests.

And yeah BIGGER is BETTER when it comes to monitor size :D

[Styvesant]

Damn, I really should wait till the end of the year or something, before buying anything atm, cos GPUs are tricky little things. However perhaps it's time to move on to ATi, cos they are always bang for buck IMO.

So 30" it is? haha

[CherryIcee]

Heh, even though they are the underdogs at the moment, I've always really liked AMD and ATI (DAAMIT lol) and I think AMD's purchase of ATI is going to pay off well in the near future. AMD needs their next processor line to be a HUGE winner though or they will be in even more serious trouble.

And yeah, I'll most likely make the move to 30". I've had several customers go with the 30" Dells for custom pcs I've built for them and the 2560 x 1600 resolution really is something to behold :D

[Styvesant]

Come through AMD dammit, I saw their benchmarks for their Quads, and I was not impressed at all, real disappointing. On that note, I have this bad image of ATi and me hating eachother cos of their drivers haha, even though it won't happen, I am recuctant.

I bet, cos I only have 22", and when I bought it, the whole neighbourhood was like, "Damn that's huge," and I'm like "Impressive isn't it?...Oh you're talking about the monitor, yeah it's good" How are you finding the GX2, and 28"? Can you run everything with ease?

[CherryIcee]

Yeah the 9800GX2 runs everything maxed out easily in 1920x1200 (except for Crysis of course LOL.) But I didn't like Crysis anyway so I never bothered to play all the way through it. I averaged about 31fps in 1920x1200 with settings on high but with no AA.

[Styvesant]

Nice nice, Crysis is for N.A.S.A so I don't even bother a bit with it...lol

[CherryIcee]

Yeah lol, I saw that article too on NASA running Crysis :p

[Styvesant]

:P Legendary. I don't see a point in Crysis.