View Full Version : Mafia 2. Online activation?
Betty_Swallocks
04-08-2008, 08:37 AM
I came over here all excited about Mafia 2. I loved the first one. I still play it.
Then I looked at the Bioshock forum and read some of the complaints about the repressive online activation that is on that game and started to worry.
Is Mafia 2 going to suffer from the same problem?
Because to be perfectly honest, if it does then I'll just give the game a miss no matter how good it is.
I'm tired of paying good money for a game and then being treated like a criminal. The only people that this kind of copy protection hurts are the honest customers. Certainly not the pirates. Bioshock was pirated within days of release and as soon as that happened all the dishonest people had an easy time of it while the honest paying customers suffer in perpetuity.
So. Can someone tell me?
Should I continue to look forward to Mafia 2 or shall I just forget about it and find something else to play?
sagat
04-08-2008, 11:49 AM
Perhaps Mafia 2 will have the same sensible decision maker as Oblivion where they left out activation all together and not like those who packaged Bioshock.
jay187
04-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Online activation would be ok I guess as long as it is done once and doesnt require you to be online to play the game or something silly like that...
I think it's highly unlikely that they'd require or implement anything like this, since its single player based
2K Elizabeth
04-08-2008, 01:57 PM
i don't have an answer for these kinds of questions yet (it's still early for that!) but i assure you that these questions and more will be answered in the coming weeks and months here and on the community website.
maandverband
04-08-2008, 04:29 PM
Because to be perfectly honest, if it does then I'll just give the game a miss no matter how good it is.
The same goes for me.
Copy protections don't stop pirates. Those losers will never buy your games. They just wait untill the copy protection is cracked (which only takes a few days or in certain cases just a few hours) and then download the game.
It are the honest paying customers who suffer. Not everyone has an internet connection. Those people can't play your game. You just take their rights away to be able to play a game.
And the pirates? They don't care, because they just keep downloading games. No matter what copy protection is being used.
I have never played BioShock and I'm never going to play it. Why? Because an internet connection is required.
After all those years Mafia still is the best game ever made, so I'm looking forward to Mafia II, but if the game requires an internet connection, I'll never play Mafia 2, because I don't pay for a game which requires an internet connection.
jay187
04-08-2008, 06:33 PM
The same goes for me.
Copy protections don't stop pirates. Those losers will never buy your games. They just wait untill the copy protection is cracked (which only takes a few days or in certain cases just a few hours) and then download the game.
It are the honest paying customers who suffer. Not everyone has an internet connection. Those people can't play your game. You just take their rights away to be able to play a game.
And the pirates? They don't care, because they just keep downloading games. No matter what copy protection is being used.
I have never played BioShock and I'm never going to play it. Why? Because an internet connection is required.
After all those years Mafia still is the best game ever made, so I'm looking forward to Mafia II, but if the game requires an internet connection, I'll never play Mafia 2, because I don't pay for a game which requires an internet connection.
I'm sure all this will be taken into consideration but it is way to early to even think of these things guys! Can't we just play Mafia in the meantime and avoid all this speculation ?
The same goes for the other topics demanding more information and in-game footage. When it's available I'm sure Elizabeth will keep us informed!
Betty_Swallocks
04-09-2008, 05:18 AM
I'm sure all this will be taken into consideration but it is way to early to even think of these things guys! Can't we just play Mafia in the meantime and avoid all this speculation ?
Sorry, but I completely disagree. This is exactly the time for the fanbase to make their opinions known.
After the game is released with Securom and online activation is far too late.
If enough of us let them know now, while the game is in development, that we won't put up with the problems that afflicted Bioshock then they have time to change their mind (or decide that they can do without our business)
Like maandverband I have not played Bioshock and have no intention of doing so. It was a shame because it looked like a good game but I won't have Securom on my PC and I find online activation unacceptable.
I will be disappointed to forego Mafia 2 but I will if the protection system attacks honest buyers rather than pirates.
online activation is a very bad idea. for example, i have two computers - one is bad but with internet, and second is good but without any network connections...
i bought the licensed version of HL2Ep2 - and what i got? whole week of searching some NoSteam software...
i bought the licensed version of Kane&Lynch - and still can't play it)))
online activation is EVIL.
FuKuy
04-14-2008, 04:02 AM
Online activation is the future.
I love STEAM. And I don't have problems with protection system. Everything that helps to stop piracy is always welcome.
KoT6opuC
04-14-2008, 07:00 AM
Hey, comon guys, where are you living if you don`t have internet?STEAM is really nice one programm, never had problems.
Hey, comon guys, where are you living if you don`t have internet?STEAM is really nice one programm, never had problems.
dang, i said:
i have two computers - one is bad but with internet, and second is good but without any network connections...
KoT6opuC
04-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Do you really need MAFIAII on both computers?
Pantsless
04-14-2008, 05:50 PM
lol, he only needs it on one, but that one has no internet connection >.<
I bought the Orange Box and had to activate it via steam. Sounds simple, right? Just hop online, have a CD Key verified... Oh! No! Not with steam! It turned into a week long affair. Firstly... I had the games on CD (DVD) but Steam insisted on trying to download them from the Steam Servers anyway... Then when it finally started doing the actual activation download thing it would pause and do nothing.
Finally when I got it working the Half-Life engine crapped out on me (I still can't play Half-Life 2 or Episode 1 without my computer crashing), granted that is not Steams fault.
Steam seems like a good system, except that it really isn't. If you're that lazy/busy that you can't buy a game from a store... you don't have time to be playing a game anyway. It's really not that hard to go to a store and buy a game.
And if you talk about pirate deterants... that's a load of crap. NOTHING will stop software piracy. NOTHING. People will ALWAYS find a way around it, and it will be the honest customers who luck out because the developers go to all this trouble to lock the game up.
ironbear66
04-16-2008, 05:17 PM
Perhaps Mafia 2 will have the same sensible decision maker as Oblivion where they left out activation all together and not like those who packaged Bioshock.
I Just love Oblivion , but i don't like mmrpgs. like WoW, too much hype about them
Styvesant
04-26-2008, 10:14 AM
I want something protecting the damn activation, I am sick and tired of people funding criminals pleasure, put some kind of new Starforce or something.
pcgamer23708
04-27-2008, 09:57 AM
I'm 100% with "Betty_Swallocks" and "maandverband"
If the Retail Disk edition of Mafia 2 has any form of Product "screw the customer" Activation like Bioshock or Half-Life 2 I will BOYCOTT it!
No money of mine will ever go to a PC Game with Product "screw the customer" Activation.
So 2K its your game so its your call and decision, but remember you choose Product Activation and you lose many customers starting with ME! and you bet, yes you bet your game will continue being PIRATED by many! just like Bioshock was!
Ironic isn't it... I have a friend that pirates almost all the games he plays (and yes I tell him all the time its wrong what he does!) but he got, played and finished Bioshock and he is constantly telling me about the game (probably to tease me) and I, that buys all the games I play with no exception, and always first hand, NEW factory sealed, I'm not able to play Bioshock which I loved to do...
So end result: Those that PAY don't PLAY, those that STEAL do PLAY!
Very Sad... :(
Styvesant
04-27-2008, 10:11 AM
Hahaha, you are too right there, many times I have bought a game, and had to return it cos of the activation, it was screwed, none of 2k games though :P
Totally agree online activation !
Styvesant
04-29-2008, 11:21 AM
Totally agree online activation !
Online activation has a way of being a pain in the a**.
Everything should be done to combat piracy ... as PC gamming is in danger
due to piracy ... but at the same time steps should be taken so that the
genuine customer does not get frustrated by all the hurdles ... it may not be
as simple as to say it but if a splendid game like Mafia can be accomplished
than anything is possible ... :)
Is there no way to stop piracy through torrents ... as i think torrents are
the main set back and the largest means of piracy in PC games ...
Styvesant
04-29-2008, 03:26 PM
Everything should be done to combat piracy ... as PC gamming is in danger
due to piracy ... but at the same time steps should be taken so that the
genuine customer does not get frustrated by all the hurdles ... it may not be
as simple as to say it but if a splendid game like Mafia can be accomplished
than anything is possible ... :)
Is there no way to stop piracy through torrents ... as i think torrents are
the main set back and the largest means of piracy in PC games ...
Pfssshh, no doubt. However it's good to see the gaming industry is making a profit still, Torrents will be shut-down soon enough.
jackinthebox
05-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Everything should be done to combat piracy ... as PC gamming is in danger
due to piracy ... but at the same time steps should be taken so that the
genuine customer does not get frustrated by all the hurdles ... it may not be
as simple as to say it but if a splendid game like Mafia can be accomplished
than anything is possible ... :)
Is there no way to stop piracy through torrents ... as i think torrents are
the main set back and the largest means of piracy in PC games ...
you can't stop piracy with such mechanisms... everything can be cracked! the only possibility is to make a good game and a fair price.
Pfssshh, no doubt. However it's good to see the gaming industry is making a profit still, Torrents will be shut-down soon enough.
you'd have to shut down the internet first...
Styvesant
05-03-2008, 10:33 AM
It will be taken down, whatever is illegal is gonna get screwed up, TorrentSpy is already being tracked, Torrent Reactor is being charged too, I mean c'mon no way that a billion dollar industry is gonna allow free , it's not gonna happen, it might take time, but they will be caught soon enough.
[QUOTE=jackinthebox;278613]you can't stop piracy with such mechanisms... everything can be cracked! the only possibility is to make a good game and a fair price.
then fair price should also be region based i think as a fair price in US may still
not be fair or affordable in other parts of the world e.g. Sub Continent ...