PS3 Keyboard and mouse?

[theredfoxisquick]

Hey, I'm planning on getting the PS3 version. I was wondering if this game will support a keyboard and mouse instead of the regular game controller.

[oriley]

Good question, if a mouse could be used that would be very convenient.

[virduk]

Yeah. I was wondering about that too.

Would be great. But then I wish all games included this option.

[theredfoxisquick]

Yeah, I wish every PS3 game had the keyboard and mouse option. This game does not have the problem with people having an advantage over one another in multiplayer because of their controls. Also all my past civilization experience and i am sure most others have been on a computer. So a keyboard and mouse would be nice. (i think there was civ 2 for psone lol)

By advantage i mean like in a fps game where a mouse would beat a thumbstick in aiming. This game is not twitch based so thats what i mean by it would not give a unfair advantage...

[EvilEye007]

I was hoping to get the PS3 version too but I asked this question in the Q&A thread and someone said no, that there will be no mouse/keyboard support. So now I'm not sure if I'm even gonna buy this game now, its a shame really.

If they said yes to mouse/keyboard, I would buy this game on day one. But now I'm gonna have to wait for some reviews from mouse/keyboards users and see what they think about using the controller, its not looking good though...

[Padma]

No keyboard/mouse support. The game engine is identical for the PS3/XBox360/DS platforms. Adding KB/M for the PS3 would ruin the "symmetry". People would say that the PS3 version was different, and/or better/worse.

But once you get used to the controls, you can play the game on any of the systems without trouble.

[Bulldog_PS3]

ya.. the whole game is designed for consoles, and the controllers. There is no need for keyboard and mouse. I have no idea why people are so dead set on KB/M anyway. I pwn KB/M users on UT3 on PS3 all the time. I am ranked pretty high #127 at the moment and I only use controller.

[theredfoxisquick]

I'm just saying the option would be nice. And... well it would be! Especially for RTS games...

[Magwill]

In game chat with keyboard would still be useful. And I don't get why people would say its unfair that the PS3 has keyboard support. They make use of the DS mobility, why not make use of the PS3s capabilities? It's the same with video chat for the XBOX. Only morons would be jealous about the XBOX360 having it and not the PS3 version. Direct your anger at the console and not the game version is my opinion. And therefore no one should be jealous about the PS3 having keyboard chat support.

I am very well aware of that in CivRev you don't have time to chat very much but still its a very useful tool to drop a few lines to your ally if you don't have a microphone.

[Bulldog_PS3]

In game chat with keyboard would still be useful. And I don't get why people would say its unfair that the PS3 has keyboard support. They make use of the DS mobility, why not make use of the PS3s capabilities? It's the same with video chat for the XBOX. Only morons would be jealous about the XBOX360 having it and not the PS3 version. Direct your anger at the console and not the game version is my opinion. And therefore no one should be jealous about the PS3 having keyboard chat support.

I am very well aware of that in CivRev you don't have time to chat very much but still its a very useful tool to drop a few lines to your ally if you don't have a microphone.


AGAIN, as the developers have said time and time again, this game is built around the controllers, and the KB/M configuration would be useless. BTW this isn't an RTS. Also, I must be the "moron" your talking about Magwill, I wasn't jealous, I was mad, that a simple feature like video chat was not included in the PS3 version. I have complained to Sony and they claim that they provide more than adequate support and tools for developers to use for Playstation Eye. So someone is not telling the truth about it. And also, when did they ever say the PS3 would have keyboard chat support ? I must have missed that one.

[Magwill]

AGAIN, as the developers have said time and time again, this game is built around the controllers, and the KB/M configuration would be useless. BTW this isn't an RTS. Also, I must be the "moron" your talking about Magwill, I wasn't jealous, I was mad, that a simple feature like video chat was not included in the PS3 version. I have complained to Sony and they claim that they provide more than adequate support and tools for developers to use for Playstation Eye. So someone is not telling the truth about it. And also, when did they ever say the PS3 would have keyboard chat support ? I must have missed that one.

I wasnt intending to insult anyone in particular. I think you can agree with me that what you want is video for the PS3 as well, not to remove the video feature from the xbox since we PS3 players cant get it, right? And that is what I meant. They havent said that the PS3 will have any support. Padma made a point that people would be complaining that the PS3 version was different, and what I say is that if a feature is not available on the other platforms, that isnt an argument for not having it on the console with support for it.

[Jason2K]

I was hoping to get the PS3 version too but I asked this question in the Q&A thread and someone said no, that there will be no mouse/keyboard support. So now I'm not sure if I'm even gonna buy this game now, its a shame really.

If they said yes to mouse/keyboard, I would buy this game on day one. But now I'm gonna have to wait for some reviews from mouse/keyboards users and see what they think about using the controller, its not looking good though...

As we've been saying for a while now, we do not support mouse and keyboard on PS3.

To be honest, I'm not sure why people are so dead set on requesting this feature anyway...CivRev is turn-based, not real-time and it's tile based, so it's not like precision is an issue.

I explained this in more detail here:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/03/14/take-two-new-civilization-will-never-come-to-pc/

Also, we do not support keyboard chat on PS3. Just voice chat.

[Man-Bear-Pig]

To be honest, I'm not sure why people are so dead set on requesting this feature anyway.

Because. It's. There.

Why does CivRev support online video communication? Is voice communication alone insufficient? Who or what requested the video feature for online multiplayer?

Maybe online video exists because it can exist. It costs little to develop and there is value added. Not intrinsic to the core gameplay, but a nice feature for players who want the option to be seen. Is keyboard/mouse support any better or worse than online video?

Or maybe the answer is simple. Perhaps 2K Games is contractually obligated to support online video, and not for keyboard/mouse. I do not know.

Do publishers and developers ever wonder why people request Custom Soundtracks and making use of the console's hard drive to play saved music files as the in-game background music? Well... because it's there. And no, we don't care how much money you spent on licensing music for your game. If I want to listen to Sha Na Na while marching on Rome, then why can't I?

Yakety yack. Don't talk back.

[Magwill]

As we've been saying for a while now, we do not support mouse and keyboard on PS3.

To be honest, I'm not sure why people are so dead set on requesting this feature anyway...CivRev is turn-based, not real-time and it's tile based, so it's not like precision is an issue.

I explained this in more detail here:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/03/14/take-two-new-civilization-will-never-come-to-pc/

Also, we do not support keyboard chat on PS3. Just voice chat.

Well I think you do understand the request for chat support at least. I think the controller has enough buttons to play the game but chatting with a keyboard is very efficient even when you have voice.

[Sigmakan]

As we've been saying for a while now, we do not support mouse and keyboard on PS3.

To be honest, I'm not sure why people are so dead set on requesting this feature anyway...CivRev is turn-based, not real-time and it's tile based, so it's not like precision is an issue.

I explained this in more detail here:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/03/14/take-two-new-civilization-will-never-come-to-pc/

Also, we do not support keyboard chat on PS3. Just voice chat.

Well its pretty simple, when I'm playing with my buddy across the country and my house mates are in the same room as me doing other things, I don't want to bug them with me talking to the TV. However, I still would like to communicate with my buddy across the country.

I despise voice chat, and I'm sure lots of others do as well. If 2K truly cared about their customers they would implement a fairly simple keyboard-chat option. The fact that 2K is supporting video chat for the 360, but not the PS3 and at the same time not even willing to incorporate a keyboard chat element for the PS3 version shows that 2K does NOT care for their customers.

[Jason2K]

I despise voice chat, and I'm sure lots of others do as well. If 2K truly cared about their customers they would implement a fairly simple keyboard-chat option. The fact that 2K is supporting video chat for the 360, but not the PS3 and at the same time not even willing to incorporate a keyboard chat element for the PS3 version shows that 2K does NOT care for their customers.

That's a small leap in logic, don't you think?

We're supporting video chat on 360 because it's built into the system. We licensed GameSpy for PS3 and they don't support it, therefore we don't support it on PS3. No conspiracy there.

Text chat has never come up prior to this thread. It's not a very much-in-demand feature. It requires the user to have a keyboard next to them while playing with the gamepad. Like video chat on PS3, I have to ask: how many games actually support this? It can't possibly be more than a couple.

Regarding mouse and keyboard support, you'll just have to take my word for it when I say that there is zero reason for us to support it. CivRev isn't a cursor based game! The kind of precision you get with a mouse is completely lost here.

[Sigmakan]

That's a small leap in logic, don't you think?

We're supporting video chat on 360 because it's built into the system. We licensed GameSpy for PS3 and they don't support it, therefore we don't support it on PS3. No conspiracy there.

Text chat has never come up prior to this thread. It's not a very much-in-demand feature. It requires the user to have a keyboard next to them while playing with the gamepad. Like video chat on PS3, I have to ask: how many games actually support this? It can't possibly be more than a couple.

Regarding mouse and keyboard support, you'll just have to take my word for it when I say that there is zero reason for us to support it. CivRev isn't a cursor based game! The kind of precision you get with a mouse is completely lost here.

I apologize if I came off sounding hostile. True that for many console games do NOT support the keyboard, but this is a Civ game and I suppose many are use to the keyboard functionality and chat log.

In regards to the video chat, this probably isn't the post to be complaining about it, but I do kind of tire of the excuse that sony hasn't made it easy to incorporate. This reminds me of Valve-guy that complained about porting Half Life 2 onto the orange box because he couldn't figure out the multi-processor. I truly believe that it is the developers job to present a complete product to the consumer. Omitting the video chat option seems like a cop-out. I know in the other post you recommended that we complain to sony about their lack of support for it, and we have, but have the developers done so as well? I would hope so.

Regardless, I have complete faith that 2K and Firaxis will publish a very polished product. I never planned on using the keyboard for controls, but for communication. I may, however, have to start the migration over to voice chat :(

Jason2K, I appreciate your helpfulness, and mild-manner tone in regards to defending your guys' product.

[Bulldog_PS3]

Ya, at first I was upset, but I am sure that in the future Video/Voice chat will be well implemented on the PS3. But for now I am still as excited as ever to whoop some tail at this game. I am not sure I want any kind of chat, because the screams of horror from my opponents might be too much. :D BTW my PS3 tag is Bulldog send me a request, and come June 3rd it's on. Be sure to mention Civ Rev in your req, because I ignore alot of the reqs I get unless there's a message.

[Magwill]

I apologize if I came off sounding hostile. True that for many console games do NOT support the keyboard, but this is a Civ game and I suppose many are use to the keyboard functionality and chat log.

In regards to the video chat, this probably isn't the post to be complaining about it, but I do kind of tire of the excuse that sony hasn't made it easy to incorporate. This reminds me of Valve-guy that complained about porting Half Life 2 onto the orange box because he couldn't figure out the multi-processor. I truly believe that it is the developers job to present a complete product to the consumer. Omitting the video chat option seems like a cop-out. I know in the other post you recommended that we complain to sony about their lack of support for it, and we have, but have the developers done so as well? I would hope so.

Regardless, I have complete faith that 2K and Firaxis will publish a very polished product. I never planned on using the keyboard for controls, but for communication. I may, however, have to start the migration over to voice chat :(

Jason2K, I appreciate your helpfulness, and mild-manner tone in regards to defending your guys' product.

Just want to add that Valve are not famous for doing things the right way :P You should take a look at their source code for Half-Life 2. You will find a lot of funny comments in the code like "What the hell are you doing?" and so on.

But back to topic I see a general misconception at developers. They seem to think that the console is only for people who sit in the couch and want to use a controller in their hands. A lot of players see the console as a computer capable of doing things the PC for example can. Also having a bluetooth keyboard on your sofa table is not troublesome at all. So I still see no reason for not having the function. But having studied IT for the past 4 years I know the only reason Firaxis arent putting it in is because if someone even suggested it, this feature went on the "Nice Features" list of features that will be implemented only if you have extra time. We're talking the game industry with not a lot of formal procedures so time is something that you almost always run out of. However I believe you would gain from paying some of your employees a bit more money to implement this feature. It's not like there's been some kind of survey from Firaxis/2K games side about what we want and what we dont want. Its just been them and their minds and experience, which will give a very close representation of what is needed, but might miss things they do not know about.

PS. And regarding how many other games that have it, what does it matter? UT3 is the only PS3 game with keyboard and mouse support and it is a big thing for many people who only buy mouse fpses, me included. If some other company is failing at delivering something that people want, then that's not a reason for you to also leave it out.

[Bulldog_PS3]

Just want to add that Valve are not famous for doing things the right way :P You should take a look at their source code for Half-Life 2. You will find a lot of funny comments in the code like "What the hell are you doing?" and so on.

But back to topic I see a general misconception at developers. They seem to think that the console is only for people who sit in the couch and want to use a controller in their hands. A lot of players see the console as a computer capable of doing things the PC for example can. Also having a bluetooth keyboard on your sofa table is not troublesome at all. So I still see no reason for not having the function. But having studied IT for the past 4 years I know the only reason Firaxis arent putting it in is because if someone even suggested it, this feature went on the "Nice Features" list of features that will be implemented only if you have extra time. We're talking the game industry with not a lot of formal procedures so time is something that you almost always run out of. However I believe you would gain from paying some of your employees a bit more money to implement this feature. It's not like there's been some kind of survey from Firaxis/2K games side about what we want and what we dont want. Its just been them and their minds and experience, which will give a very close representation of what is needed, but might miss things they do not know about.

PS. And regarding how many other games that have it, what does it matter? UT3 is the only PS3 game with keyboard and mouse support and it is a big thing for many people who only buy mouse fpses, me included. If some other company is failing at delivering something that people want, then that's not a reason for you to also leave it out.


Are you serious Magwill ? Even though there is absolutely no reason to have a KB/M, you are still upset there's not support for it ? I don't believe you studied anything for 4 years, because that would require intelligence beyond what you've shown here. And most people with any intelligence whatsoever would hear the words "absolutely no reason for KB/M support" and think hmm, maybe I don't need KB/M and then STFU about it. The whole argument is beyond retarded. You have already been told several times THERE IS NO NEED FOR A KB/M. What are you like 3 yrs old or something ?


P.S. I will PWN you or, anyone you know using a KB/M on UT3 with my controller.:D

[Magwill]

Are you serious Magwill ? Even though there is absolutely no reason to have a KB/M, you are still upset there's not support for it ? I don't believe you studied anything for 4 years, because that would require intelligence beyond what you've shown here. And most people with any intelligence whatsoever would hear the words "absolutely no reason for KB/M support" and think hmm, maybe I don't need KB/M and then STFU about it. The whole argument is beyond retarded. You have already been told several times THERE IS NO NEED FOR A KB/M. What are you like 3 yrs old or something ?


P.S. I will PWN you or, anyone you know using a KB/M on UT3 with my controller.:D

This is a public forum where people come to get their questions answered and to give tips to the people in charge. I really don't see why you bring out a whole suitcase of random insults against me that have no basis at all and I'm not going to make this into a battlefield with someone like you, because this isn't the place for it.

As for what is actually important in your post, the part of keyboard and mouse I will try and explain to you and I hope you won't bring your random insults again because really, there is no reason.

First of all lets straighten this out. Just because someone says something, thats not an indication that it is true, that you should trust it, or that it has sufficient research behind it. Nothing improves if everyone is satisfied and do not question things whether they really are the best way of doing things or not.

Now, we have here a person who claims that there is no need for keyboard and mouse support. And to fill in the gap if you haven't read my posts properly, I'm only interested in the chat support of a keyboard. I do believe myself that the controller is enough to make quick management for a game like Civ. But a controller can't write even near the speed of a keyboard and it is just a hassle. Now, there are reasons for having keyboard chat support. Among them that you may not want to talk with people using voice chat because you don't like doing that, you might not own a headset, you might be deaf or muted. A keyboard is a god send for these people especially, when it comes to games.

And a tip for the future if you want to be taken seriously by strangers, don't insult them and also, if you are stating something, bring some reasons together with it.

[Sigmakan]

Are you serious Magwill ? Even though there is absolutely no reason to have a KB/M, you are still upset there's not support for it ? I don't believe you studied anything for 4 years, because that would require intelligence beyond what you've shown here. And most people with any intelligence whatsoever would hear the words "absolutely no reason for KB/M support" and think hmm, maybe I don't need KB/M and then STFU about it. The whole argument is beyond retarded. You have already been told several times THERE IS NO NEED FOR A KB/M. What are you like 3 yrs old or something ?


P.S. I will PWN you or, anyone you know using a KB/M on UT3 with my controller.:D

Whoa man, why the need for insults? This has been a fairly civil discussion until your post. I believe most people are in favor for the KB for a means of communication and not for game controls.

The reason a KB isn't used as much in other PS3 games is because they are non-stop multiplayer action. Wither Civ Rev there WILL be some down time. This allows the perfect opportunity to talk amongst the other players via KB chat.

[Magwill]

Whoa man, why the need for insults? This has been a fairly civil discussion until your post. I believe most people are in favor for the KB for a means of communication and not for game controls.

The reason a KB isn't used as much in other PS3 games is because they are non-stop multiplayer action. Wither Civ Rev there WILL be some down time. This allows the perfect opportunity to talk amongst the other players via KB chat.

I agree. In for example UT3 you usually lose if you are not constantly killing other people. You don't really have time to write tactics in text and then for others to read it. But a strategy game like Civ is a game where you benefit from strategies and planning together with your ally and Jason used the argument himself, its not a RTS so you dont need every precious second for holding your finger on the trigger. You do have time to write messages on a keyboard. At least thats how it appears to me from all the stuff I've heard from the developers.

[Man-Bear-Pig]

(pre-script... sorry I'm a little late with this message, but I wanted to add my $0.02)

Regarding mouse and keyboard support, you'll just have to take my word for it when I say that there is zero reason for us to support it. CivRev isn't a cursor based game! The kind of precision you get with a mouse is completely lost here.

I understand that you cannot please all the people all the time.

I understand that games development is not exactly a democratic process.

I understand there are business concerns that need to be addressed when developing games. There are budgets, both time and monetary, that cannot be overlooked. There will be compromises.

What I do not understand is why you are arguing with the gamers. Don’t argue with gamers. We are your customers. We are always right about our gaming experience, and telling us otherwise further alienates us from your company and your product. The only question left to answer is why we think your game would be enjoyable with an alternate method of input.

Jason, you can only fail us if you do not abandon any notion about how Civilization Revolution "should" be played. Yes, that is how you come off sounding in your response. Just let it go.

Personally, I would not make use of any keyboard or mouse support for CivRev. I am very comfortable using a controller, and the built-in microphone on my PlayStation Eye would serve as my primary means of communication for online multiplayer. So why do I care? Because any comment, feature, or idea suggested by the gamers should not be idly disregarded by a game developer. I take offense to that. I want to know that the concerns of each gamer are in fact considered. Not necessarily implemented, but considered at the least. No matter how asinine the suggestion or idea may be; I will defend any gamer's right to suggest it.

[Magwill]

(pre-script... sorry I'm a little late with this message, but I wanted to add my $0.02)



I understand that you cannot please all the people all the time.

I understand that games development is not exactly a democratic process.

I understand there are business concerns that need to be addressed when developing games. There are budgets, both time and monetary, that cannot be overlooked. There will be compromises.

What I do not understand is why you are arguing with the gamers. Don’t argue with gamers. We are your customers. We are always right about our gaming experience, and telling us otherwise further alienates us from your company and your product. The only question left to answer is why we think your game would be enjoyable with an alternate method of input.

Jason, you can only fail us if you do not abandon any notion about how Civilization Revolution "should" be played. Yes, that is how you come off sounding in your response. Just let it go.

Personally, I would not make use of any keyboard or mouse support for CivRev. I am very comfortable using a controller, and the built-in microphone on my PlayStation Eye would serve as my primary means of communication for online multiplayer. So why do I care? Because any comment, feature, or idea suggested by the gamers should not be idly disregarded by a game developer. I take offense to that. I want to know that the concerns of each gamer are in fact considered. Not necessarily implemented, but considered at the least. No matter how asinine the suggestion or idea may be; I will defend any gamer's right to suggest it.

All true. And to add, if a gamer's suggestion goes against the love and dreams for a game from a developer, you can usually add both ways of doing it and not ruin the way the developer thinks it should be. But in this case it isnt even that bad. We're just talking adding a tiny feature in order to make more gamers happy. Making your customers even more happy is what every company should strive for. Not only does it give your company a better reputation, it also feels damn good when you hear that lovely feedback from happy gamers.

[Bulldog_PS3]

This is a public forum where people come to get their questions answered and to give tips to the people in charge. I really don't see why you bring out a whole suitcase of random insults against me that have no basis at all and I'm not going to make this into a battlefield with someone like you, because this isn't the place for it.

As for what is actually important in your post, the part of keyboard and mouse I will try and explain to you and I hope you won't bring your random insults again because really, there is no reason.

First of all lets straighten this out. Just because someone says something, thats not an indication that it is true, that you should trust it, or that it has sufficient research behind it. Nothing improves if everyone is satisfied and do not question things whether they really are the best way of doing things or not.

Now, we have here a person who claims that there is no need for keyboard and mouse support. And to fill in the gap if you haven't read my posts properly, I'm only interested in the chat support of a keyboard. I do believe myself that the controller is enough to make quick management for a game like Civ. But a controller can't write even near the speed of a keyboard and it is just a hassle. Now, there are reasons for having keyboard chat support. Among them that you may not want to talk with people using voice chat because you don't like doing that, you might not own a headset, you might be deaf or muted. A keyboard is a god send for these people especially, when it comes to games.

And a tip for the future if you want to be taken seriously by strangers, don't insult them and also, if you are stating something, bring some reasons together with it.


Well, Magwill much like you when you called me a "moron" for being upset about video chat or the lack thereof on the PS3, I meant no offense. Sorry. I have always found that the built in pop up controller keyboard to be fairly easy and quick to use. Not the cell phone one but the full one. I type around 70 wpm on a keyboard, so it's a little slower but with the predictive text, it goes pretty quickly, especially for tactics you would use time and time again.

[Man-Bear-Pig]

Text chat has never come up prior to this thread. It's not a very much-in-demand feature. It requires the user to have a keyboard next to them while playing with the gamepad. Like video chat on PS3, I have to ask: how many games actually support this? It can't possibly be more than a couple.

I just checked out 3 of the PS3 games I own to look for any evidence of text chatting and/or keyboard support:

Rock Band: No in-game text chat supported, and no voice chat either. However, keyboards are supported for naming band members and bands. And keyboards can be used to edit the "join game" message sent to buddies. There isn't much need to type a lot in this game, but it's definately keyboard supported.

Condemned 2: Bloodshot: Never tried the multiplayer until a few minutes ago. Can't tell if there was any voice support. Definetly no text chat support. There wasn't really any opportunity to type anything, so this game does not support keyboards. Sadly, the online game is Powered by Gamespy. Bad omen?

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas: Well, it's a FPS game, so I don't thinkwaitaminute... text messages? Check. Can I type using keyboard? Yes! There you go. In the least likely of all places. Text chatting with keyboard supported in an unlikely first person shooter. And I have used it myself at times, even though I used a microphone too.

I do admit that R6V does not allow text messages to be sent while the game is playing, but can be sent freely while in the games' lobbies. It's still online, keyboard supported text chat, and that counts for something.

[Magwill]

Well, Magwill much like you when you called me a "moron" for being upset about video chat or the lack thereof on the PS3, I meant no offense. Sorry. I have always found that the built in pop up controller keyboard to be fairly easy and quick to use. Not the cell phone one but the full one. I type around 70 wpm on a keyboard, so it's a little slower but with the predictive text, it goes pretty quickly, especially for tactics you would use time and time again.

Thats why I wrote a reply to you explaining more thoroughly what I meant.

[BioShockWins]

Ok guys. Play nice.
It is too bad we cannot use the keyboard/mouse. But we will [have to] adapt!

[Xodusboy]

I have played a few games now, where another user will message me. However, I have NO idea how to answer back. I have tried everything. Do you need a keyboard? Is this how it works?

Please let me know! Thank you. :)

[DrTrouserPlank]

I actually think the abscense of in-game chat via a keyboard is one of the areas where the ps3 suffers in comparison to PC gaming; especially in a game like this.

[Ilikebeans]

I like your review on play.com DrTrouserPlank

[PiratesFan]

I have played a few games now, where another user will message me. However, I have NO idea how to answer back. I have tried everything. Do you need a keyboard? Is this how it works?

Please let me know! Thank you. :)

If it is the PS3 version they are probably hitting the PS button and if you are on their friends list would be the only way. The option to text message is not present in the game. If it was My Keyboard that is beside me during all games would of been used instead of the poor voice service from GameSpy.

[Matrix49G]

That's a small leap in logic, don't you think?

We're supporting video chat on 360 because it's built into the system. We licensed GameSpy for PS3 and they don't support it, therefore we don't support it on PS3. No conspiracy there.

Text chat has never come up prior to this thread. It's not a very much-in-demand feature. It requires the user to have a keyboard next to them while playing with the gamepad. Like video chat on PS3, I have to ask: how many games actually support this? It can't possibly be more than a couple.

Regarding mouse and keyboard support, you'll just have to take my word for it when I say that there is zero reason for us to support it. CivRev isn't a cursor based game! The kind of precision you get with a mouse is completely lost here.

Hmmm, I have High Stakes Poker for the PS3. It uses the gamespy license. Guess what it supports video chat, via patch update to the game. So they do support it, it's you guys don't support it.

[Jason2K]

Hmmm, I have High Stakes Poker for the PS3. It uses the gamespy license. Guess what it supports video chat, via patch update to the game. So they do support it, it's you guys don't support it.

GameSpy doesn't support it, or at least, they didn't when we were licensed it for CivRev. Either they've added it since, or the HSP development team wrote their own support for video cameras.

[Azzriel]

Text chat would have been a great addition. A small rolling chat box at the bottom of the screen for people to chat inbetween turns would be 10x better than the poor voice chat that we have now. Or how about a chat box in the game room lobbys where we wait for people to join? Voice chat seems like a complete waste of bandwidth for a game such as this.

[DeadAim2781]

Kind of off topic but anyone know if they make a mouse and keyboard for the 360? I would love to have one but have been unable to locate one.

Also someone in here said on PS3 only some games can use the KB & mouse set up. Is the 360 the same way or do they even offer it at all?

Thanks, Kyle

[badken]

Well, there's this:

Xbox 360 Text Messaging Kit
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Text-Messaging-Kit/dp/B000UN3UDQ

which adds a mini-keyboard to your controller.

I've read that you can also plug in a standard USB keyboard and it works, but only in text fields, like for IM and such. Doesn't work in games.

[DeadAim2781]

Well, there's this:

Xbox 360 Text Messaging Kit
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Text-Messaging-Kit/dp/B000UN3UDQ

which adds a mini-keyboard to your controller.

I've read that you can also plug in a standard USB keyboard and it works, but only in text fields, like for IM and such. Doesn't work in games.

Well that sucks. I refuse to play shooters on console. I just don't like the aiming with the joysticks. Mouse and keyboard FTW!