Update About The Bioshock Pc Patch And Announcement About DLC! [Archive]

2K Elizabeth

11-30-2007, 01:18 PM

BIOSHOCK PC PATCH, XBOX 360 TITLE UPDATE AND FREE DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT COMING

Many of you have been asking me about the status of the BioShock PC Patch and Xbox 360 Title Update, and I have some good news for you.

Both the BioShock PC Patch and the 360 Title Update will be available next week. In additon to these fixes, we will be releasing downloadable content free on both Xbox Live and for the PC, with the DLC bundled into the PC Patch. A full list of bug fixes and everything included in the DLC will be put up on the Cult of Rapture when the downloads become available.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html

Frink

11-30-2007, 06:49 PM

Wouldn't it now be an appropriate time to say that the patch release is "imminent" Elizabeth? :p just kidding, I'm glad to see that you guys[and gals ;) ] are finally are able to say that we will have the download HOPEFULLY by next week.

I wish we could get the list now of what was changed with the patch so we can have something to look forward to while waiting. But I guess that really doesn't matter.

Thanks for the info Elizabeth!

BioShockWins

11-30-2007, 06:51 PM

Well in "2K time" one week could be ...

:rolleyes:

ARShrike

11-30-2007, 07:57 PM

I will be able to play Bioshock now!

Osuperman

11-30-2007, 08:03 PM

(oh, and p.s. sorry for the wait? nope? nevermind)

PrivateJoker

11-30-2007, 08:30 PM

HURRAY!! Now we have a new reason to play Bioshock some more. The new level of difficultly without vita-chamber (making the bioshock difficulty comparable to System Shock 2) that I wrote a thread about RIGHT after the game was released has been answered. Proof that the developers actually listen to us here. :D

Thanks for the news Elizabeth!!! :)

Patryn

11-30-2007, 11:39 PM

Yes! Yes! Yes! I've been waiting for the patch before starting my 2nd play through. I had too many crashes and so lost a bit of immersion due to that. Also the game was a bit easy (somewhat due to having to quick save so often). I had almost given up and was about to play through again anyway this weekend. I will gladly wait a week and hopefully not be disappointed. I’m happy to find out that we are getting a patch. I was scared due to 2k’s recent financials.

AlFitz

12-01-2007, 12:55 AM

Hurrah, hurrah and thrice hurrah. I do hope they fix the capped physics frame rate bodge tho, too much to ask maybe?

Rebelxd9

12-01-2007, 01:03 AM

I've played the game 3 times without a problem minus one crash ... I feel like a fat bored kid now I want BioShock 2 now ... :mad:

AlFitz

12-01-2007, 01:16 AM

Well I don't think I had any crashing problems (maybe I was lucky), I was just waiting for it to be tweaked before playing it again (only finished it once).

Xtramalt

12-01-2007, 01:43 AM

I don't want to sound greedy or get ahead of myself, but... is the a second batch of DLC planned?

I mean at least as far as the 360 goes, the devs still have another 150 GS up their digital sleeves. :)

Of course I'd also be happy to hear the dev's were work on their next title.

Xtramalt

12-01-2007, 02:00 AM

Praetorian

12-01-2007, 02:05 AM

Finally. FINALLY!!! At last :) :)
Hope the patch is worth the wait. And also hope it didn't come this late just because of the bundled DLC content...

Any news on the editor for Bioshock :rolleyes: ?

AngelGraves13

12-01-2007, 02:57 AM

I hope us PC users get some achievements in-game. Hopefully compatiblem with Steam's game achievements so they can be logged and recorded.

Creed

12-01-2007, 04:53 AM

I have to commend 2K for the fact that they are throwing in free DLC for Biohsock. I am sure this was originally in the plans to be something customers would have to pay for. Well done!

P.S Elizabeth, is Ken Levine really that annoying to work with? I have read multiple articles lately that employees of 2K vowed to never work with the man again and he won't be on the Biohsock 2 team.

greylantern

12-01-2007, 05:16 AM

Don't care about DLC, I just wanted the game patched and working as expected. Hopefully the patch won't reveal more problems (or cause new ones).

Glad it wasn't just vapourware afterall.

If:

FOV, MOUSE CONTROL and SOUND'S CUTTING OUT are 'fixed' then I will actually finish the game.

if:

Anim/physics frame rates are now uncapped, vita chambers can be switched off ,and all crashes are fixed then I may even play it through again and go easier on judging it. Now I know Vita's are in the patch but if the anim frame rates are still low it just feels 'weak' so won't have much incentive to replay.

I think too much time has passed to say 'thankyou' for a patch but I will say 'at least you got your **** sorted out'. Oh what about the DRM thing? :D

thenightman4u

12-01-2007, 05:18 AM

I wonder if the widescreen FOV will be fixed in the 360 update? Any word Liz ?

GabrielX

12-01-2007, 05:31 AM

I think too much time has passed to say 'thankyou' for a patch but I will say 'at least you got your **** sorted out'.

Too much time cannot go by to disallow being polite.

Thanks, 2K! I really hope this fixes my sound issues!

501105

12-01-2007, 05:53 AM

wow I expected duke nukem to be releashed before the patch glad I was wrong.

Xerxes III

12-01-2007, 07:23 AM

My BioShock played perfectly the whole way through. I don't need a patch that might ruin that. I wish I could download the extra Bioshock content separately from a patch.

Peace

Software Junkie

12-01-2007, 07:27 AM

This is great news...... Cheers! I didn't have any issues with Bioshock, but the DLC is a nice touch.:)

greylantern

12-01-2007, 09:47 AM

Too much time cannot go by to disallow being polite.

Thanks, 2K! I really hope this fixes my sound issues!

Politeness went out of the window the day 2k implied that technically aware people who were concerned about the Field Of View 'problem' were 'stupid to want it fixed' as it was 'by design' (even though every other UE3 game showed the same trait; albeit with better default settings than Bioshock).

And that's in relation to Ken Levines answer on the issue on some gaming site about how he 'laughed' and didn't think it was a problem but 'whatever'.

Also it's polite to tell people before they install a game that they will be infesting their system plus have LIMITED installs, I treat people/companies with the respect that they treat me.

prateeko

12-01-2007, 10:04 AM

Excellent, I was going to play through the game again (after CoD4 and OB), now I have even more incentive to do so!

No hints at all about the DLC tho?

Will6669

12-01-2007, 10:46 AM

I'll finally be able to get past the first level, yay.

shiznit

12-01-2007, 10:58 AM

So finally after three months the game will be playable? I might buy it again now that it's $30.

purplerose1414

12-01-2007, 11:13 AM

No hints at all about the DLC tho?

One can gather by the plasmid.ini file a few possibilities. I'll be very surprised if Sonic Boom isn't in.

Hyplex

12-01-2007, 12:45 PM

great job, you cant imagine how glad i am to read this.
thank you for this wonderful game.

Hyplex

12-01-2007, 12:46 PM

by the way, what's DLC?

Falco

12-01-2007, 01:49 PM

Wow if sonic boom were in id be so happy = ) (big smile) Free Downloadable content, thanks 2K, thanks Elizabeth. Bioshock is the ebst game i have ever played!!! Got the special edition with medal Big Daddy bye the way. = )

Damien_Azreal

12-01-2007, 02:16 PM

I remember Ken talking about FBA (Full Body Awareness) being made available in DLC.
I wish and hope it was this one... but I know it won't be. This is mot likely just new plasmids, tonics and tools.

Jerri Blank

12-01-2007, 02:51 PM

Politeness went out of the window the day 2k implied that technically aware people who were concerned about the Field Of View 'problem' were 'stupid to want it fixed' as it was 'by design' (even though every other UE3 game showed the same trait; albeit with better default settings than Bioshock).

It is stupid. 2K made a design choice. I'm not sure why they agreed to fix a "problem" that didn't actually exist. It's a little like screaming daily for a patch because you don't like the color of the dresses the Little Sisters wear, or because you wish they hadn't gone with the Art Deco theme.

jb

japester

12-01-2007, 03:46 PM

My BioShock played perfectly the whole way through. I don't need a patch that might ruin that. I wish I could download the extra Bioshock content separately from a patch.

Peace

I kind of figured they were bundling something big in with the patch (I thought it might be an activation/SecuROM removal or somesuch), but DLC is much more attractive to me.

I've got the same fear as Xerxes, though. I hate to patch a game that's been running flawlessly for me just to get the DLC. I guess I'll have to cross my fingers.

purplerose1414

12-01-2007, 04:18 PM

I've got the same fear as Xerxes, though. I hate to patch a game that's been running flawlessly for me just to get the DLC. I guess I'll have to cross my fingers.

Liz said the DLC was "bundled". My wish would be they just rar the dlc with the patch exe, instead of the DLC being tied to the patch. Because like a few of you, my game has had no problems. Now, if they somehow fixed the waving corpses, it's patch city for me.

Demitasse

12-01-2007, 06:31 PM

Liz said the DLC was "bundled". My wish would be they just rar the dlc with the patch exe, instead of the DLC being tied to the patch. Because like a few of you, my game has had no problems. Now, if they somehow fixed the waving corpses, it's patch city for me.

It's plausible that you have to have the patch fix the problems in order for the new content to work. Even if your stuff works just fine it could have the chance that only downloading the new content would in turn make more bugs. So both are necessary and should both be bundled together.

ARShrike

12-01-2007, 07:48 PM

Osuperman

12-01-2007, 08:26 PM

It is stupid. 2K made a design choice. I'm not sure why they agreed to fix a "problem" that didn't actually exist. It's a little like screaming daily for a patch because you don't like the color of the dresses the Little Sisters wear, or because you wish they hadn't gone with the Art Deco theme.

That's a great idea bout the dresses. Hey Elizabeth! Does the patch change the colour of the dresses the little sisters wear? Jerri and I don't like them. And as he suggests, perhaps we could go with a new theme for Rapture, perhaps something more... post-modern?

Thanks! Oh and don't worry about the widescreen problem... Jerri says it doesn't matter anymore! :D

c3l1k3r

12-01-2007, 09:26 PM

:mad: First everybody was saying 2k were stupid and sucks balls and everything like that. Now that they say a patch will be released everybody starts to love 2k as a magic.
And it is not the worst. The worst thing is that the other people who didnt have problems are just complaining that they wanted the DLC thing without any damn patch and they forgot that the damn DLC just came because of the patch and all these f... issues.. so selfish. if you have any fear about it just stay with your damn PERFECT game and stop being so selfish wondering that u didnt want any f...patch.:mad:

slumber rig

12-01-2007, 11:57 PM

very cool. i have only pplayed through once because there was a train of incredible games being released bioshock happened to be my 1st of many. so i beat it once and then went on to enjpy the most incredible year of game releases EVER!!!
1st bio then...
blue dragon, eternal sonata, halo 3, NWN2 MotB, AoEIII asian dynasties, orange box, hellgate london, the witcher, skate, assassins creed and lost abut not least the harbinger of my destruction, and my babies mummah (drumroll) MASS EFFECT!!!!! and these are only the games i COULD afford. theres about another ten games that would be at least an 8 out of 10 IMO ranked.

so really its been great, and im looking forward to some more bio!!!

anyone have at least a little idea of possible fixes additions?
just a little scratch list? i havent been around here so im in the dark.

cheers all!!!

BioShock23

12-02-2007, 12:13 AM

Thanks so much guys. Atlas Fontaine(my gamertag) will be first in line to download some DLC on the 360! I also have it on PC so i'll get it there as well.

Destop

12-02-2007, 05:42 AM

:mad: First everybody was saying 2k were stupid and sucks balls and everything like that. Now that they say a patch will be released everybody starts to love 2k as a magic.

Not really. Note that only a few of the people who have criticised 2K's PC patching velocity have posted in this thread. Furthermore, some are relieved as they thought the patch was vapourware. Me, I'm just relieved Community Manager 2K Elizabeth's "next week" line hasn't gone out of bounds, and that a lot of people will be getting an early saint Nicolas present.

For the rest, I second Praetorian: great to see the PC patch imminent for real this time, and hopefully it didn't take this long because of the added DLC.

Megatron_g1

12-02-2007, 09:18 AM

I could care less about the field of view patch, I have an HDTV and had no problems completing the game and thoroughly enjoyed it.

However, I am looking forward to new Plasmids, I can't wait to see what we get. Thanks 2k! :)

greylantern

12-02-2007, 10:28 AM

Thanks! Oh and don't worry about the widescreen problem... Jerri says it doesn't matter anymore! :D

Yeah, now if only the rest of us could turn into clueless, 'turn a blind eye' fanboys like Jerri, who can't acknowledge obvious faults, they wouldn't need a patch for anything :D

nytiger73

12-02-2007, 10:59 AM

From IGN.com, information about what is included in the DLC. I don't think it's all inclusive, but I thought you might all like to see it as I haven't seen this posted elsewhere.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/838/838862p1.html

WizardEyes

12-02-2007, 08:58 PM

so this just fixes bugs? is this going to do anything about the new 51st achev. that no one can seem to get? and no its not beating the game on hard without dieing cuz i already did that! so yeah anything on new levels or anything like that or is this strictly bug fixes cuz... yeah didnt see any....

kei135

12-02-2007, 10:59 PM

when will it be out?

headkase

12-02-2007, 11:13 PM

when will it be out?

Unless something unexpected happens: something this week (with today being Monday, December 3rd 2007).

headkase

12-02-2007, 11:14 PM

...: something this week (with today being Mon....

Sometime! SOMETIME!, curse my fudgy brain and no Edit button.

BOWi

12-03-2007, 01:26 PM

Wow! DLC! I wasn't waiting for such thing! That is great!!!!! Thanks 2K and Elizabeth!

(Now I hope we won't be dissapointed! ;), Anyway, I still have to complete the game :o)

The Void

12-03-2007, 01:52 PM

Release date ? Such a hard wait...

clonedprince

12-03-2007, 04:52 PM

ah man. someone already got to this.

ah well, here is another link about it:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=176769?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS

clonedprince

12-03-2007, 05:01 PM

What The Hel Is "dlc" ?

BioShockWins

12-03-2007, 05:04 PM

What The Hel Is "dlc" ?

Down loadable Content

Means we get more stuff in our beloved BioShock.

headkase

12-03-2007, 06:56 PM

I remember when DownLoadable Content could be made by anyone - not just bestowed by the grace of the publisher! I'm not complaining too much - it'll be nice to play through again with some new content. But, the difference between Bioshock and other games such as Unreal Tournament 3 is that Bioshock is a closed system and UT3 is open. Being closed gives the developer more control while being open gives the customer more value. I'm dissapointed that Bioshock is closed: I was hoping for years of longevity from user-created content but it seems it's not to be. Which is a slap in the face when I look in the End User License Agreement (BioshockDVD:\documents\Uk\EULA.txt) and see language that refers to user-tools in that it says you cannot make a profit off of it and additionally (in: C:\Program Files\2K Games\BioShock\Content\System\Logos\EdSplash.bmp) a splash screen for the editor that "was never planned" also despite the fact that Ken Levine publicly promised one. I don't know why 2K reneged on their promise of allowing users to create content, all I know is that it sucks.
At the same time Bioshock is a great game and has given me quite a bit of entertainment value so overall I received my moneys worth - it just could have been so much more. Thanks for the game 2K, too bad you won't let us expand the world.

Insect Swarm

12-03-2007, 07:16 PM

AWSOME!

Oh one quick question on the cult of rapture site it says the name of some tonics/plasmids i dont know which one they are there was "Machine buster 1/2, Vending Expert 1/2, Sonic Boom, and EVE Saver. If anyone can tell me wether those are tonics or the plasmids i would greatly appreciate it.

purplerose1414

12-03-2007, 08:10 PM

Sonic Boom is the only plasmid I think. I mean I think it's the only one, I know Sonic Boom is a plasmid.

Side bar: Yay for splicers not moving after death, boo for Midnight PST being 3 AM here...

Glottis

12-03-2007, 10:42 PM

greylantern

12-04-2007, 12:23 AM

:thumbdwn:

They still have not fixed the things most important to me !!!!!! Glint toggles for the console kiddies.I play on the PC,and never needed any of the hand holding common in console titles.Ken promised many,many months ago,it would be in the game and WORK,well it does not work. :mad: :rolleyes: Will patch 2 in another 3.5 months address this issue ??

They have fixed some important issues, but I agree they haven't fixed a lot of other semi-important ones. after 3 months you'd have thought everything should be sorted out. :rolleyes:

Still it's better than nothing right now, which is what we thought we were going to get. :D

Ninjit_Turak

12-04-2007, 12:35 AM

what the hell is glint toggles?

greylantern

12-04-2007, 12:54 AM

what the hell is glint toggles?

Turning on/off the 'shiny' (obvious) objects effect. So you have to actually LOOK a bit for stuff rather than it being highlighted by an unnatural glow.

Ninjit_Turak

12-04-2007, 12:57 AM

hahahaha, yeah, thats really an important issue i hope they fix and im gonna complain until they do! It's just such a console style feature! They'd NEVER do something like that in a PC game because PC gamers are PROS! We can look for stuff thats way harder to see!

what a crap thing to complain about.

greylantern

12-04-2007, 01:01 AM

Well it's not high on my personal list of complaints, but I do think they have missed some important 'fixes' in the patch (sounds, animation update/physics rate uncapped, CRASHES!?).

Unless they are actually done but just not mentioned in the changelog, if the above 3 were sorted along with what else is in patch one then i'd be happy. Well as happy as a can be with an overhyped game with average (at best) gameplay, but at least I'd be able to finish it without feeling like I was in 1995 or something.

Subtle_Demise

12-04-2007, 01:03 AM

They never fixed any sound issues. The changelog is wrong.

greylantern

12-04-2007, 01:10 AM

I think we could being to call this patch the 'Placebo update' :D

Still at least FOV stuff is finally done (yet to see how well they've done it and if weapon moves as well which if they just used 'setfov' it won't have - still be better than before though), and a walk option for us PC users is in.

But the cutting out sounds (or lack of sound completely) the crashes and the piss poort animation/physics refresh rates were all higher priority then almost anything else and they've not sorted them out!

Ninjit_Turak

12-04-2007, 01:17 AM

greylantern

12-04-2007, 01:22 AM

yes the animations are often lacking a lot of tweening. I dunno why this is but it hardly makes the game any worse to play unless seeing something move in a kind of jagged way makes you pass out or something.

Right, well welcome to 3 months back. We are BEYOND discussing the issues now and just want them sorted out. I'm glad it's ok for you, perhaps on the 360 version it doesn't seem so bad? On my PC running at over 70fps a 12fps update on physics looks extremely crap and it does actually make the game far less fun to interact with.

Subtle_Demise

12-04-2007, 01:27 AM

No offense greylantern, I agree with you %100, but it's really useless being reasonable at this point. I waited over 3 months for nothing. I actually wanted to enjoy the game I upgraded my computer for.

Ninjit_Turak

12-04-2007, 01:27 AM

Right, well welcome to 3 months back. We are BEYOND discussing the issues now and just want them sorted out. I'm glad it's ok for you, perhaps on the 360 version it doesn't seem so bad? On my PC running at over 70fps a 12fps update on physics looks extremely crap and it does actually make the game far less fun to interact with.

that's cool i guess you're right about that, but the xbox360 version runs at over 70fps and I can see how bad it is.

I was under the impression that the PC version had HEAPS of problems, that why I was a bit surprised that the main complaints im seeing now are people who don't like the glinting and the animation update speed. but yeah like I said I havn't played the PC version yet so maybe its less bug ridden than I thought which would be a good thing.

Rebelxd9

12-04-2007, 01:45 AM

It crashes and studders when I save now :mad: it never did this before the patch .... awwwww! :rolleyes:

AlFitz

12-04-2007, 02:03 AM

The capped animation makes the game look and feel horrible, surely it would be easy at least to double it rather than synching it with the frame rate?

greylantern

12-04-2007, 02:32 AM

that's cool i guess you're right about that, but the xbox360 version runs at over 70fps and I can see how bad it is.

I was under the impression that the PC version had HEAPS of problems, that why I was a bit surprised that the main complaints im seeing now are people who don't like the glinting and the animation update speed. but yeah like I said I havn't played the PC version yet so maybe its less bug ridden than I thought which would be a good thing.

The pc version does have a lot of problems, my point was that a lot of them were supposedly fixed in this patch so ... for the next patch could they look at the next most serious problems if you see what I mean?

And as the last poster said

The capped animation makes the game look and feel horrible

Sums it up. It just feels wrong, cheap, not as good as it deserves to be and through no reason other than over zealous optimising precautions (imo). It could easily run at a proper 'smooth' rate and not affect faster PC's (maybe it's essential on the 360 to keep it running good - btw I have a 360 and most games do NOT run @ 70fps, most struggle to get to 60 - more likely they run @ 30fps).

Anyway, it's just an immersion ruiner when you shoot a chair and it appears to 'float' away in small jerky motions, looks almost like slow motion (especially on things that fly through the air - it makes them appear weightless which is a killer to fun interaction with physics). Crysis get's physics spot on and once you've played that game any game that does it wrong is obvious (HL2 does it good too).