News on the Editor or Custom games?

[Flybye]

Haven't been here a while and was wondering if anyone knows the word about BioShock's editor and/or any custom content that may come out.

Love this game. :D

Beat it twice, and am going to wait till I get my new system so that I can play the 3rd time at full 16xAA, no plasmids, and with the super hard mod. :D

[yogibbear]

No there will never be an editor released for Bioshock.

The game will die.

Mods were going to be sooo good.

This will be the only unmodded UE3 game out there.

I actually can't believe this. How hard could it be to distribute the UE3 editor?

Anyone, more sh*ts and giiggles for the PC community.

Obviously Michael Slater is right in saying that the PC people "think funny". Damn we are complaining about not getting an editor that we were told about pre-release of this game. Oh wait, it's in the EULA, in the manual... but you've told us we won't get one. Go figure.

[Flybye]

That is horrible. This game has INCREDIBLE potential to stay alive and they have decided not to release an editor.

[501105]

It is a pity because of the no mods it will die a young death

[jd10013]

I'd say this is probably the reason:

http://advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10305

[yogibbear]

I'd say this is probably the reason:

http://advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10305

I highly doubt it is because of that.

I think it's either:
a) they don't want us to fix their game and make it better than they ever did. Someone could easily fix the interfaces, get rid of the crappy X marks the spot bits, and change the game balancing, and remove ridiculous respawns, and fix the stupid game crashes, and blah-de-blah.
b) they want to sell us crappy add-ons ala horse armour and don't want to compete with better freee user-made mods
c) they like to mess with us
d) they want us to buy UT3/GoW - UE3 editor included for free in those games.

although it is highly more likely that the reason is:
e) securom won't let you run third party mods on the bioshock .exe

and 2k don't understand how securom works, hence why they can't solve this problem, hence no UE3 editor for us. Even though we were told about it numerous times before the games release that it would be included at a later date after the initial splurge of technical issues were resolved.

Although this all sounds highly preposterous, and the more and more i try to comprehend why 2k do certain things, i seem to be unable to find any logical reason as to why.

[jd10013]

you don't think having to settle a lawsuit for 2.5 million because of fan created content has anything to do with not releasing an editor? :confused:

[headkase]

you don't think having to settle a lawsuit for 2.5 million because of fan created content has anything to do with not releasing an editor? :confused:

I think it's ridiculous that the lawsuit made it through the US courts! Yes the code and content was in the game *BUT* there was absolutely no way to access it without the user downloading and installing a third-party hack to unlock it! So it was *NOT* in the game that was accessible to users, but it could be unlocked with the user specifically taking *their own* actions to do so. So Rockstar gets dinged because of a third-party! Jeebus! Duke-Nukem had nude/(unmentionables) patches out for it many many years ago! Nobody sued (whoever the h*ll made it)! In my firm opinion the court that accepted Rockstars settlement only demonstrated their own ignorance in how games are structured. And the only reason I think Rockstar settled is because they thought a jury would be equally dumb.

[rcthardcore]

An editor would have been nice. The game is way too short. Some user-made content would have been really cool to see!

[headkase]

BLAH BLAH BLAH...And the only reason I think Rockstar settled is because they thought a jury would be equally dumb.

I'm not done yet! Using the same logic, if I installed a mod-chip on my XBox in the US should Microsoft be hit with a DMCA violation?? Same darn thing. What Rockstar should have done is gone to court, pulled out a PC and said "show me it". Then when the plaintiffs 'expert' witness wanted to go to the Internet to download some user-created modification they should have stopped him in his tracks and said 'Well that's not us, is it?'!!!!!

/rant

Ok, now I'm done.