Final Boss suggestions - SPOILERS [Archive]

dorame

09-30-2007, 11:20 PM

I just spent another HOUR trying to kill that MF Fontaine - HE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL!

Either I am playing a different BIOSHOCK to everyone else or doing something terribly wrong - I have been trying for 2 Days !!

Any help would be appreciated - I need tactics from when you exit the bathesphere please!!!!!!

Here's what I do:

1. I Exit Bathesphere

2. Check my weapons: Load DEFRAG Grenade/ Incendiary Bolt/ MG /Electrick BUCK - everything at my fingertips.

3. The Only Effective PLASMID I found is 'hornet-nest' thingy - that ties him up enough to get a couple of grenade shots away later!

4. I then extract his EVE as that nagging ***** 'Tannebaum' wont shut the FU!

5. Fontaine then breaks loose and seems to be everywhere at once - I try to get into a position where I can let my hornet PLASMID go - that works enought to slow him down a little - I try and get some cover!

6. He the starts throwing firey **** grenades at me!

7. I then let him have it with all 6 of my Grenades, then BUCK and MG and if I get chance anything else I can, including wrench. I never seem to get chance to cycle through my weapons fast enough, because I'm usually toast about now!

8. He hits me with one more grenade (thats 3 in total) and I am dead!

This is unreal!!

I am seriously considering ending the game (which I have thoroughly enjoyed) here at this point and declaring Fontaine the winner, as I want to remove it from my HD and move on (to make room for Assassins Creed and Crysis...)

I'm just frustrated that I cant seem to get past this point using all the techniques and tactics that got me this far! (BTW Anyone else notice the Machine Gun is pretty useless (even against Spicers) the only weapon I found consistent is the cross-bow!)

If you are beating Fontaine - you should consider yourself EXCEPTIONALLY LUCKY that you are not getting into the same all-out firefight as I am.

If I kill him (I will try 5 more times before uninstalling!) I will post the kill-tactics here...
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Mr.Bubblez

09-30-2007, 11:27 PM

two words:

health station

save you money and use the health station. also be sure that you bind the proper keys so you have easy access to health packs.

his attacks are very easy to avoid, just strafe.

Splice-As-Nice

09-30-2007, 11:48 PM

You say you get him twice, sending him back into the splice rack. (haha) Right? Use the electric gel on him for the last round. If you do not have any I dont know what to say. But if you have the fully upgraded chemical thrower, it is almost too easy with the electric gel, he stands in one place, frozen the entire time you are dealing it out.

deevius

10-01-2007, 12:21 AM

wtf, hes so ****ing easy. I was playing on Normal difficulty though

Iapetus

10-01-2007, 12:33 AM

The chemical thrower with electric gel is extremely effective most of the time. Holds him in place and does lots of damage. (I didn't really realize how useful the chemical thrower could be until my third play-through.)

Make sure you have all the good defensive tonics on (Armored Shell, probably Static Discharge 1 & 2, etc.). If you really want to go the extra mile, use the Gene Bank to switch to the elemental defensive tonics appropriate to his current form (i.e., Human Inferno 1 & 2 (Xbox only :( :mad: ) to Frozen Field 1 & 2 to Electric Flesh 1 & 2).

The Target Dummy plasmid is a frequently overlooked aid. Use it and you can attack him for a while without taking damage from him or any splicers and bots he summons.

And the pistol with anti-personnel rounds is probably more useful than the machine gun (though neither is great). And don't forget the other grenade types; in fact, I'd probably start with the heat seeking grenades first.

But fundamentally, it sounds like you need to dodge more. Easier to say than do of course. And don't hesitate to take brief refuge in other areas of the room (to reload or change ammo, for instance). He'll follow you soon, but it gives you some breathing space.

Ric

10-01-2007, 02:55 AM

I thought he was easy to kill? So much so that I cannot remember any particular strategy that I used. I suppose I waited for him to rush me and then side stepped quite a bit; that would let me get off a few good shots at him. I used Winter Blast a few times but it would only stun him for about a second so it wasn't all that.

I hit him with the Hypo needle as soon as I saw him, that brought him down to 4, then I whacked him with all the grenade launcher ammo I had and that put him back in the regeneration unit and let me hit him with the hypo again; that was 3. I think it got easier the less Adam he had so getting him to 2 and 1 was no big deal.

I dunno.... duck, weave and fire.

Trajan

10-01-2007, 03:47 AM

I just used up all my 6 heat seeking missles, then switched to exploding buck. I had to strafe right and left most of the time. I had plenty of first aid packs so I didn't need the health station.

lurchibald

10-01-2007, 04:27 AM

PROX mines, Telekinesis (on the exploding barrels), or use prox mines on explosive barrels and also TK, also run run run i never got hit, just make sure you are next to a cornerand when he charges or uses a power move and run to another corner. also while doing all that have incinerate there to light up the oil puddles that are around.

PS.Also, are you using the LS needle on him when he is getting recharged?

yogibbear

10-01-2007, 05:16 AM

I thought he was going to be tough... but then was shocked by how it was not. Then i found it fun to see how many diff tactics worked.

Some things i liked:

1. first and foremost, he has 3 forms... so when he's fire use ice etc etc.

2. the liquid nitrogen in the chemical thrower freezes him for EVER! and then you bash him with your wrench

3. the electroshock/electric gel/electric buck shot/trap bolts all stun him pretty good

4. when he's ice. use your fire plasmid/exploding buck/exploding bolts

5. proxi mines are awesome

6. heat seeking missles are sooo unfair

7. even the trusty grenades are just insane for splash damage.

8. dodge duck dip dive and dodge!

9. when he charges... strafe (read: dodge)... snap your aim around (read: duck dip dive) and blam some grenades at his face and watch him try to get out of the way (read: dodge) which he fails miserably.

10. you should be able to get him the first two times with the needle with only using 1 or 2 medikits MAX. If this all fails... the bee plasmid and the other distracting one are pretty useful at buying you some more time.

Saturnplanet5

10-01-2007, 05:50 AM

I just hit him with the crossbow all the time and side stepped when he charged. Drained his adam when promted and just electricuted the security bots if needed. Pretty simple really.

unhappy1

10-01-2007, 06:52 AM

Huh? That difficult? I just used frag grenade continously and plus some other ordinary weapons's (my default settings are all ordinary ammo e.g.: bucks NOT exploding buck etc.) combination and I reserved good one for him, later who knows I finished him off (or rather Little Sisters) before I show him all the presents that I have prepared. :( I do have time to change or reload though waiting Fontaine to attack me. :D Just too bad I don't have time to bathe before I go back to real world to look for my (jack's) girlfriend. :p

Newbiezilla

10-01-2007, 09:16 AM

Telekinesis on object, throw at Fontaine. Draw Adam.

/Rinse.

/Repeat.

geezgeez

10-01-2007, 09:31 AM

I just hit him with the crossbow all the time and side stepped when he charged. Drained his adam when promted and just electricuted the security bots if needed. Pretty simple really.

ditto, found the exact same tactic worked. also running around the back of the platform also helped when things got a bit heated.

Regarding the bots, I also hacked them to get myself a bit of extra backup.

Got to admit I killed him on my first attempt.

Olgerth Heidern

10-01-2007, 10:07 AM

Target Dummy = win.

He starts whaling on it, you headshot him.

Also hoard the Heat Seeker RPGs, set the bastard on fire and fire away.

Just pay attention to his movement, and the rest is relatively easy.

beef supreme

10-01-2007, 09:40 PM

I don't have as much finesse as you guys.....I just loaded up on automatic anti-personnel bullets and alternated that and electroshock therapy, standing toe to toe. I think i shocked him once in the far back while he was in the water......

I do have to say that the ending sucked. I just finished it tonight, and I get a 2 minute ending......guess I will have to harvest the next time through.

Newbiezilla

10-01-2007, 09:51 PM

Sorry to tell you, but (at least IMO) the good ending is better.

Tremula Metacarpi

10-01-2007, 10:25 PM

I ran around and shot him with the crossbow, hovered over the health station, threw frag grenades, and hit him with a little electricity. Oh, and used Incinerate for the oil puddles.

Newbiezilla

10-01-2007, 10:28 PM

I ran around and shot him with the crossbow, hovered over the health station, threw frag grenades, and hit him with a little electricity. Oh, and used Incinerate for the oil puddles.
Ah... Everything except the kitchen sink.

Jerri Blank

10-02-2007, 08:47 AM

I used frags and prox mines on him the first round (I shot him with the prox mines - didn't place them). I killed him with electric gel the second. I used my heat-seeking RPGs the third round.

jb

lurchibald

10-02-2007, 08:53 AM

Sorry to tell you, but (at least IMO) the good ending is better.

Still thats all up to personal opinion, i myself thought that the "evil" ending was the best... the most rewarding :D

Ansible

10-04-2007, 06:21 PM

My strategy:

- 2 trap bolts in an X where he lands, then go up to the platform to extract adam. He'll throw you over the trap bolts, then land on them.

- in his first form, fire, I just blast away with RPGs until he goes back to the chair.

- In the second round - ice form - he calls up some security bots. At this point hit him with the security plasmid and they'll attack him and not you.

- be sure to keep sidestepping to avoid his attacks.

- electric gel works great.

dorame

10-04-2007, 06:58 PM

Thanks Guys!

Well, thanks for all the tips - I really appreciate your useful advice and strategies and I did try several.

I did manage to dodge him enough to kill him just once but I just could not maintain enough momentum and ammunition (or patience!) to repeat the exercise and the frustration of dying and having to start all over again - instead of going to a regen chamber on the same level) it all just got to me!

I really have NO regrets on not killing Fontaine - as I said before I doubt that satisfaction would have equaled anything else experienced during the previous awesome levels!

I guess I'm not as agile as some of you in dodging fireballs and him leaping about all over the place hurling fireballs made him so difficult to hit half the time - I'm not usually a quitter, but hey, I'm 61 Years old and I know when I'm beat! :) If you beat him WELL DONE!

Anyway, 'HE WON' and the game is now removed from my HD to avoid the temptation of me throwing the monitor on the floor (nearly happened after 15th time of dying under that MF!)

I'm looking forward to 'Assasins Creed' next :)

All you Gamers out there - have tons of fun for many Years to come!

erk

10-07-2007, 09:10 PM

He is the easiest boss I've seen in years..... Just have both greneade launcher upgrades and a full compliment of mines, grenades and if needed, missiles. Think I killed him in 6mines and 8 grenades, all of them 100% hits. Had a few upgrades, but there is no way you can go trough a full compliment of mines+grenades+rpg (should total 24 if I remember correctly) and not kill him if you atleast have damage upgrade for grenade launcher.

Hatesink

10-08-2007, 05:08 AM

As you play the game, play with the understanding that there's going to be a big boss fight at the end and build a character to deal with it.

I equipped as many protective plasmids as I could and collected a full wallet (full of cash), and each time (after draining his eve) ran and stood next to the Health Station so that I could keep re-filling my health (also collected a full set of nine med-kits for emergency use (I used about five in the process (on extra hard setting))). Plus, it might be a good idea to hack the Health Station so that he can't use it to regain health.

Just keep firing your best, most powerful, ammo at him until he returns to the chair, at which point run around to where he sits and drain his Adam (repeat the process until you get all of his Adam).

If I remember correctly, one time he was fiery and used flame attacks and another time he was icy and used ice attacks. If my memory serves me correctly, it's probably a good idea to have protective plasmids for both ice and fire, so that if you find the boss battle particularly difficult, you can swap them out at the Plasmi-quick (gene bank) in on the east side of the room, so that you're prepared for either eventuality. Also— Armored Shell 1 & 2 and Speedboost are pretty good to have equipped for the final fight.

I tend to ignore the splicers he sends since, as he (the last boss) has the most powerful attack, he's the guy you wan't to be focusing on rather than the splicers. When you take lots of damage just use the Health Station again (or failing that, one of your med kits.).

Also— each time I've played through I've made a point of backtracking (once I'm wearing the suit) and collecting all the health upgrades to give myself the extra health (it might be a good idea to also equip the tonic that makes health packs go further (the Health Station will fill you all the way up, but the health packs don't)).

Tan

10-08-2007, 01:11 PM

he is the easiest boss I've ever faced even on hard. WTF OP - lrn2playgames.

bioshock_fan

10-08-2007, 01:28 PM

The first time I tried to beat Fontaine on hard(xbox 360 version), it took me about 10 minutes. Now, every time I load the game up from that checkpoint, it takes me about a minute and a half to beat Fontaine. The PC version must be alot more difficult than the Xbox version, lol:p . Or, maybe your just not very good, lol;) (JK.). I recommend using the chemical thrower, although its already been mentioned on here a bunch of times. If you do not have enough electrical gel to finish off all of his three forms, use the liquid nitrogen on his fire state(I think this is his first form where he is a red colour). Also, load up on health packs before facing him, and use them when your health is near about 25%. Not much more I can say to help you...

Good luck! Beat that SOB down!!!:D

HiViH

10-08-2007, 03:03 PM

just use TK, take his balls of fire, electric and what not, and move abit when his jumping towards you, quite simple really, or use the electric chemical thrower, you dont have to move and still kick his ass.

I killed him twice on hard because I thought I did something wrong the first time that he was so easy P:

Myrm

10-09-2007, 05:43 PM

Learn to strafe, it helps out alot. Oh and use the 9 medkits that you have. I mean seriously people this is not a hard game which is very disappointing. You can use medkits while in combat so you will never lose and ammo is so easy to get. Then again I am ranked top 100 with a sniper rifle in BF2142 so maybe i'm just good and you suck.

Jerri Blank

12-19-2007, 12:10 PM

Last night I watched a Youtube video of someone beating the final boss with a wrench, and I want to try that tonight.

But I have a question about Winter Blast that has always confused me. When you freeze the final boss, or any enemy for that matter, are they somewhat protected from your attacks while they're frozen? Does a freeze attack from you do anything other than buy you time to run somewhere else and switch ammo, or can you actually take their health down like normal while they're frozen?

Also, are Frozen Field and Human Inferno effective against Fontaine? Human Inferno reduces heat damage you receive and increases damage you deal out, but is fire effective against Fontaine at all in his fire state?

I'm at the end of my third play-through, and for some reason I'm having a lot more trouble with Fontaine than I had the second time through.

jb

DemonCommander

12-19-2007, 02:41 PM

i thought he was easy, even on Hard.

StevetheBigDaddy

12-19-2007, 02:56 PM

But I have a question about Winter Blast that has always confused me. When you freeze the final boss, or any enemy for that matter, are they somewhat protected from your attacks while they're frozen? Does a freeze attack from you do anything other than buy you time to run somewhere else and switch ammo, or can you actually take their health down like normal while they're frozen?

Also, are Frozen Field and Human Inferno effective against Fontaine? Human Inferno reduces heat damage you receive and increases damage you deal out, but is fire effective against Fontaine at all in his fire state?

Apparently you can damage enemies while they are frozen according to some maniacle Winter Blast fanboy. I have tried it myself and can say, "If it's doing damage it'll be in DECIMALS...really small decimals."

You shouldn't be using fire attacks against fiery Fontaine. Simple knowledge when it goes through my mind. You should try it.

Fire<Insects
Ice<Fire
Electricity<Fire

That's my idea of damaging him..when it comes down to elements.

Rebelxd9

12-19-2007, 06:13 PM

End Boss can be difficult :confused: .... If your 80 years-old :p

StevetheBigDaddy

12-19-2007, 06:35 PM

Yes he is easy enough. I just find it effective to just pump in all my machine gun/anti personell, then security becon him, enrage a few splicers...

If you can dodge his attacks and shoot at him, where's the problem?

adrenaline2110

12-19-2007, 08:43 PM

1st set mines where he will land after jumping from the chair after you suck adam out of him
2nd use the crossbow it is very strong and pretty fast
3rd most plasmids wont do much
use your rockets a lot
chemical thrower and be very fast do not stay in one place for a long period of time

Jerri Blank

12-19-2007, 09:21 PM

Beat him tonight - BRASS BALLS, BABY! :)

I used electric gel on him the first two times. The second time I hit him with security beacon so the fully-leveled bots would help me.

Third time I used the napalm thrower, which had the added benefit of also setting splicers on fire. I continued to hit him with security beacon occasionally, as long as there were bots around.

Here's a tip. :) After you drain his ADAM the 4th time, he can still kill you by throwing you off the platform if your health is low. I had him killed three times and thought I was done, but apparently the game is still "live" until the cutscene with the LS's starts. I almost threw my controller through the TV when this happened to me. :mad: :)

jb

james1701

12-19-2007, 09:53 PM

If you go behind the chair area, there is a large section of water. Its fun to lure him around and get him in the water and give him the shock treament while he is wading across the water.

-=Infidel=-

12-20-2007, 09:30 PM

On the default difficulty I was able to defeat Fontaine on the first attempt. I was rather surprised.

Anyway, I just searched IGN for a walkthrough and I found this. (http://au.faqs.ign.com/articles/816/816684p1.html)

I hope it helps.

Foniks Munky

12-21-2007, 03:27 AM

It's kind of tragic the old guy who started this thread gave up.Even if you just set him on fire,he'll run to the water so you can electrocute him!It must have been his first shooter.I've killed Fontaine three times,and he has yet to seriously threaten me,much less kill me.Elite Rosies are so much harder.

Jerri Blank

12-21-2007, 01:58 PM

I beat him again today just for fun, and I found that hitting him the first two times with electric gel and the third time with RPGs is so easy it's almost unfair. And that's on the hard difficulty setting. Using security bullseye on him with fully leveled-up bots is fun.

We ought to have some kinda contest for funniest/coolest way to kill Fontaine, although I'm still pretty intrigued by the wrench kill I saw on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5K4zm_o33o

Jerri Blank

12-22-2007, 02:03 PM

One other thing - I was playing around in the Fontaine level again today, and I took someone's suggestion and got him to chase me around back and get into the pool. On two different play-throughs, somehow he got face-down in the water and was "swimming" around in it while I kept throwing electro-bolt in there. It seemed to happen when he would try to do his bouncer rush at me while he was still in the water.

Pretty funny stuff. Maybe I can get some video.

jb

tyrant2025

12-23-2007, 09:45 PM

Two words: circle strafe. This is a skill i have mastered in my time playing Halo and Wolfenstein. Against Fontaine, he is kinda big and slow to turn. Keep your distance as it will be easier to avoid his rush attack.

...and as Trogdor would say, "burninate!":)

XilDarkz

12-23-2007, 11:46 PM

He was so incredibly easy on Hard that I was disappointed.

Timeaisis

12-23-2007, 11:59 PM

What difficulty are you playing on? You are aware you can just go down to easy to fight him?

The only thing I remember doing is using incendiary on him whenever he stood still. And that was pretty often. Just strafe around, don't let his attacks hit you, and then fire off something powerful at him. If it gets rough use target dummy and let it draw fire for a while.

Ammo_Bandito

12-24-2007, 07:43 AM

I beat him with my wrench exclusively. How? Dodge the first fireball/charge combo and start hitting him on the back of the head while strafing arround him. He is too slow to turn and won't be able to hit you at all. Repeat for all 3 phases. With a fully upgraded wrench(jockey 1/2 static 1/2 lurker 1/2 sport 1/2 etc..) he dies before the bots or splicers get to you. I actualy found this alot easier then fighting him at range.

@ OP: Can't dodge his attacks? Is it so hard to press either left or right strafe when fontaine roars, raises his hands above his head and starts glowing? And if you can't do that, just throw the damn things back at him.

adrenaline2110

07-11-2008, 02:30 AM

NewGoblin

07-12-2008, 02:42 PM

He was sooooooooooooooooooo easy I was annoyed, only lost about half my health nd didnt use a medi-pack, finished game with 9 left.

Spliced Big Daddy

07-16-2008, 02:23 PM

light him on fire in ice mode and shoot heat seekers. On fire use electricity

Cyber999

07-19-2008, 11:43 PM

i just crossbowed him with steel tip bolts and quickly strafed when he charged. it really wasn't that hard. remember to get as many health upgrades as u can throughout the game and have full first aid kits just in case. and don't worry about the splicers and bots trying to kill u. FOCUS ON FONTAINE. HE IS YOUR MAIN OBJECTIVE. you can kill the splicers/bots later or in some cases fontaine will actually accidentally kill them)

Chickendude8890

07-21-2008, 08:35 PM

I found it pretty easy i juts used Winter Blast Lvl 3 to frezze him and used the machine gun. Um when he is on fire use Winter Blast, when he is ice use the Fire move when hes Electric use Winter or Fire try to do the same with the Chemichel Thrower 2 ok

Thorg Kraen

08-20-2008, 01:32 AM

I've only played on EASY so far, except for the Med Pavilion, so this may not count.

I had the electroshocks, hardened skin etc, and all of the wrench plasmids, so hitting him gave me health - so I crowded him, hitting as fast as I could tap the button, and found I did better by just staying as close as possible, ended up with no loss of health at all - everything (including EVE) maxed out.

I can't believe how many methods there are - all workable. Amazing game.