Am I the only happy camper?

[SirMaru]

These are the specs I use and every game I play is very exciting and have never seen a hint of a crash:

Human = Germany (216 points)
AI = Russia (216 points)
No City States or Barbarians
Duel Map Size and Pangaea Map Type
Immortal Difficulty, Standard Pace (500 Turns), Modern Era
Random Personalities
Disable Start Bias
Victory Conditions: Time or Domination
Turn 325 - 1905 AD
Declare war on first contact with AI and never make peace.

I change the nations and every game is great with great animations and a contest all the way. If I really want to up the challenge and risk a lot of losses, I can always upgrade the AI to Deity.

Why is that so many here are complaining? Its almost like I am a Firaxis employee getting paid to say this game is great. However, I am just a critical game player like the rest of you but am having a darn good time.

Maybe we are all playing DIFFERENT GAMES !

Frankly, I can hardly wait for the next patch to make this game even better than it is now. Civ V is the best video game I've ever played and I've been playing all sorts of games since 1943.

[Hamhawk]

Sorry, tomorrow marks 9 weeks since release and there is still no hotseat. I will not be happy until it is released.

[aeligos]

These are the specs I use and every game I play is very exciting and have never seen a hint of a crash:

Human = Germany (216 points)
AI = Russia (216 points)
No City States or Barbarians
Duel Map Size and Pangaea Map Type
Immortal Difficulty, Standard Pace (500 Turns), Modern Era
Random Personalities
Disable Start Bias
Victory Conditions: Time or Domination
Turn 325 - 1905 AD
Declare war on first contact with AI and never make peace.

I change the nations and every game is great with great animations and a contest all the way. If I really want to up the challenge and risk a lot of losses, I can always upgrade the AI to Deity.

Why is that so many here are complaining? Its almost like I am a Firaxis employee getting paid to say this game is great. However, I am just a critical game player like the rest of you but am having a darn good time.

Maybe we are all playing DIFFERENT GAMES !

Frankly, I can hardly wait for the next patch to make this game even better than it is now. Civ V is the best video game I've ever played and I've been playing all sorts of games since 1943.

Most happy campers are playing their game when their busy lives permit it.

Most unhappy campers spend most of their available time posting negative remarks about this game since they can't play it to begin with or they dislike something about it and want to announce it to those who would care.

And then there are others who don't fit in either extreme and yet have nothing to say one way or the other.

o.o

"Google" (*insert chuckle here*), however, would have you believe otherwise.

I'm currently playing as China with over 500 turns and have 3 more civs to deal with. I started with 7 civs plus barbarians minus the highly emotional city-states....and so far I'm loving it.

-.-

[Swordfishtrombone]

SirMaru, you seem to have some sort of a compulsive need to post the settings you use repeatedly, on several threads, and now even as a new topic. This is starting to resemble spamming. We get it - you like these settings, good for you.

However, most people, including me, don't enjoy small maps, as much as we like the larger ones. And the largest maps crash sometime in the modern age. A game that offers settings that lead inevitably to a crash, is broken.

Now I like the game, but am very eager to get this crash issue fixed as soon as possible - it should have been dealt with before the release of the game, but I'll take what I can get.

[kooljay2]

However, most people, including me, don't enjoy small maps, as much as we like the larger ones. Please don't say "most people", unless you have survey numbers to back that claim up.

[MaleciteV]

I have seen these settings posted numerous times...

I realize you strongly believe there is fun to be had by following those same set of rules every time, and hey maybe there is, but the reason many are disgruntled is that the settings they enjoy either don't exist, or don't work.

I for instance would love to actually be able to compete with the AI's by using strategically placed cities that are chock full of useful buildings. Instead my games almost always end up fast tracking into ICS to keep up with the computers ubiquitous use of the same tactic. I simply cant keep up research wise when Its somehow economically favorable to maintain a vast sea of tiny cities vs a solid bedrock of metropolis's.

[stins]

I'm a happy camper. But then again, it's because I just ordered Beyond the Sword; I can't wait to get it later this week.

If I didn't know any better, I would have thought its feature list belonged to the latest-and-greatest full game in the series, while Civ V was an old expansion.

[UmBongoInTheCongo]

So to sum it up, people who enjoy playing against the AI are happy and people who want to play against human opponents are unhappy.

[SirMaru]

SirMaru, you seem to have some sort of a compulsive need to post the settings you use repeatedly, on several threads, and now even as a new topic. This is starting to resemble spamming. We get it - you like these settings, good for you.

Most of the complaints here are also just continuous repeats bordering on spamming. There IS a way to really enjoy this game and I am trying to get some folks to try it before giving up.

My specs minimize PC resource use and maximize strategy, tactics and conflict. I'm sure many others could enjoy Civ V this way and that is why I push it. We all spent $ 50 to buy this game and the majority, who post here, just complain and really don't want answers.

I am giving them a REAL ANSWER on how to enjoy Civ V. I'm hoping the upcoming patch enhances this type of play even MORE.

By the way, if Multiplayer play is enabled in the next patch, my specs allowing one human to play another one human on the Duel map without any AI at all could turn out to be the best game of the decade. It would involve minimum PC resources, minimum chance of peer to peer games failing because one of a dozen players has a poor connection, and minimum time to complete.

Online chess allows completion of a LONG game in 2 hours. With even a map smaller than Duel that could be feasible in Civ V. That is the only way I would play MP since I don't like to save games with humans (they can cheat by playing out their save game file without the opponent between sessions) and 2 hours is the maximum I could take at one time in any game.

[lowwizard]

I hate the outdoors, I hate camping, I hate bugs....oh wait were talking about the game? Oh then I love it. Games awesome.

[BotteR]

Its almost like I am a Firaxis employee getting paid to say this game is great. However, I am just a critical game player like the rest of you but am having a darn good time.

Maybe we are all playing DIFFERENT GAMES !.

*Removed by Precarious*

[tfordp]

*Removed by Precarious*

Aw, I would have liked to have read that. I might possibly have agreed. :)

[The Giant Of Lannister]

Yes..and we all hate u for it

[Onandoga]

I love the game and i love multiplayer. iv spent roughly 14 hours on just over the past weekend. im an addict. Multi player is a little buggy but its still playable and very fun in my opinion.

[SirMaru]

I love the game and i love multiplayer. iv spent roughly 14 hours on just over the past weekend. im an addict. Multi player is a little buggy but its still playable and very fun in my opinion.

Finally, we are flushing out some folks who really like Civ V. Welcome aboard.

It had appeared that the dissatisfied MINORITY were most of the paying customers.

The beauty of Civ V is that we can CUSTOMIZE it to meet our preferences. Thus, all of us can enjoy a different game using the same Civ V.

The only suggestion I have for Firaxis is to increase the customization options so we can try a greater variety of specifications and more of us can find the right mix for themselves and then move on to a different mix as they get bored with the old mix. Those Advanced Settings should be doubled or tripled in my opinion.

[jlozeppeli]

The stupidity of this thread is awesome, more than the game itself....

Yes, why don't we all play with SirMaru specifics? Maybe devs can make them the standard game option, maybe they can erase the others... So we'll be playing happily like this AWESOME GUY!...:D

[thebigbenman]

i like both camping and CIV5, it's great, and i rarely go on these forums cuz they're pretty negative. I am waiting for multiplayer to be in a better state as well as my best friend moved away this month and i'd love to have something to play with him.

i honestly haven't touched the game in a month though, between an amazing campaign on Medieval total war 2 i've been playing and now assassin's creed brotherhood, CIV's taken the backburner until the next patch comes out.

but just to reiterate: i love to go camping.

[BotteR]

I would guess most people actually whine cause they like the game, and would like to se them fix the bugs and imbalances. If the game purely sucked people would just move on.

As to playing it at SirMaru's settings, sure it migth be fun. But thats such a small part of the game. It should "work" and be fin on most settings, not just a select few.

You don't buy a Ferari, go on the freeway and then drive 20mph ;)

[Davor]

No you are not the only one who likes the game. Many people like or love the game. On the other hand many people do not like the game.

One problem I see with your settings? Why do you only play one on one? Why don't you play a large map with barbarians and City States with other civilizations? It would be interesting to know why you don't play this.

[SirMaru]

No you are not the only one who likes the game. Many people like or love the game. On the other hand many people do not like the game.

One problem I see with your settings? Why do you only play one on one? Why don't you play a large map with barbarians and City States with other civilizations? It would be interesting to know why you don't play this.

Just having a single AI opponent focuses the AI on one objective: BEATING ME. As it is, the AI is still too weak to be effective and does need improvements. Also, I like the Modern Era weapon systems like nukes and the giant death robot. I don't want to wait days to see this or, perhaps, have the game crash and never get there.

Finally, as I play the game, it still takes 5 or 6 hours to finish it on the Duel Map. That's about the maximum I'd want to spend in any game. As it is I save it after 2 hour sessions and then come back to it. AI personalities will never be like humans. Its just not possible. The only hope for AI improvement is in its tactics and strategy. For example, in chess programs the AI there has been improved enough to beat grand masters but it can never have real human personalities. To get the human emotions in Civ V and chess requires one human versus another human. Then each can experience the human emotions of victory and defeat.

In the end with the Duel Map, just one AI opponent and starting in the Modern Era all my games have been completed in contrast to most folks here who seem to end in crashes and never see the best parts of the game.

[Ojevindlang]

I enjoy Civ V immensely, and I will be a really happy camper when the bugs and some serious balancing issues have been solved. But I think they could introduce some more minor stuff for entertainment value. Those who complain that all there is for them to do is to press ENTER all the time for the next turn are not entirely wrong. There is place for some distractions without going over the top and stuffing the game with things to the bursting point, which in my personal opinion is what happened in Beyond the Sword. So they could for example reintroduce religion, but merely as a culture and happiness generator - most definitely not as something affecting diplomacy because that really fouled up diplomacy in Civ IV. The random events in Civ IV were pretty amusing, and I'd be happy to see them again, except for the building-destroying tornadoes and the silly Bermuda Triangle. And I get tired of always seeing the same old natural wonders, and of being informed of how many there are left for me to find. Why not have more natural wonders and randomize the number of them that appear, so that you are in a bit of suspense as to whether you have found them all (the advisers could of course supply a hint, the way they already do), and whether you'll discover Lake Titicaca or the Grand Canyon or the Barringer Crater or the Great Barrier Reef. And then there was the throne room in Civ II. I liked furnishing my home as I progressed, from sitting on a stone in a cave to to having an opulent if somewhat tasteless hall reminiscent of the home of an upstart business tycoon in the late 19th century. (The throne room was optional, by the way; one could disable that part of the game.)

One thing in Civ V (beside the obvious bugs and imbalances) that clearly needs improvement is the "character differences" between the various civ leaders. They are meant to be there, but they are invisible to most players and are only skindeep anyway. They are almost as bad as the civ leaders in Civ III, though in Civ V it's a comfort that Gandhi doesn't start nuclear wars all the time, the way he did in Civ III. That made me laugh, but I don't think the ambition of the game developers was to amuse gamers by a grotesque flaw in Gandhi's ostensible personality. The developers clearly left an ambition to win as the supreme principle guiding all the AI leaders, which meant that if their "personal" policies failed (as was inevitably the case with Gandhi), then they all resorted to war as the simple solution. At about the time nukes were discovered, Gandhi usually discovered that he wasn't winning and set about doing so. And he always failed, because another mechanism in Civ III was, as you remember, that if a civ started a nuclear war, all the other civs automatically declared war against it and nuked it if they had atomic bombs themselves.

Oops! I went off topic a bit at the end, but I'll never forget Gandhi, the Rajah Nukem.

[Black Gate of Mordor]

You don't buy a Ferrari, go on the freeway and then drive 20mph ;)

Indeed. You buy an Aston Martin and go as fast as you can.


Finally, we are flushing out some folks who really like Civ V. Welcome aboard.

It had appeared that the dissatisfied MINORITY were most of the paying customers.

The beauty of Civ V is that we can CUSTOMIZE it to meet our preferences. Thus, all of us can enjoy a different game using the same Civ V.

The only suggestion I have for Firaxis is to increase the customization options so we can try a greater variety of specifications and more of us can find the right mix for themselves and then move on to a different mix as they get bored with the old mix. Those Advanced Settings should be doubled or tripled in my opinion.

Don't worry, there are more people who love this game. Although, my gameplay has been down the past few weeks.

Stupid exams...

[Ainvar]

I dont think people like the idea of Baby play where you are agenst 1 AI and the game last only 500 turns.

I think the people who are complaining are the ones that Like HUGE maps with many AI and City states. Plus the time to Explore the world. Then send your Force into Battle with many countrys at once. With long Battles. Then see how much hell you can do across the World. Ya I love Marathon Play.

But I love to see my country grow.

[Ojevindlang]

I dont think people like the idea of Baby play where you are agenst 1 AI and the game last only 500 turns.

I think the people who are complaining are the ones that Like HUGE maps with many AI and City states. Plus the time to Explore the world. Then send your Force into Battle with many countrys at once. With long Battles. Then see how much hell you can do across the World. Ya I love Marathon Play.

But I love to see my country grow.

I think the exploration phase is one of the most enjoyable features in any version of Civilization. I wish there was some way they could have it in some form throughout the game.

[tfordp]

I think the exploration phase is one of the most enjoyable features in any version of Civilization. I wish there was some way they could have it in some form throughout the game.

And this is probably exactly the reason they did away with map trading.

[Ojevindlang]

And this is probably exactly the reason they did away with map trading.

Yes, and I must confess I am a bit puzzled that some people are apparently upset about that particular change, which I like.

[madmaligor]

For me, Civ IV had its day and then some. With thousands of hours of play it had run its course, ex packs, mods, and all. It was an awesome game. Civ V for me is a blast. I am enjoying the changes, and most of the gameplay. Sure I would like to see some things change, and some things fixed, just like a number of you folks. But I am already enjoying some great mods out there that handle some of my complaints, and have even fixed an issue or two myself.

For me, this is exactly what happened with Civ IV vanilla. My only hope is that they don't get crazy with the $5 DLC rather than concentrating thier work on a true ex pack.

Anyway, that was my 2 cents.

[Ojevindlang]

What does DLC mean?

[Black Gate of Mordor]

What does DLC mean?

DownLoadable Content. Basically, a civ or a map (for a game like Black Ops or something). They usually cost between $3 and $5.

[Panda_Power]

I've seen these settings mentioned quite a few times....don't think they can all be from the same person!

I may give it a try and see what it's like. Anything to try and make the game fun!

[MaleciteV]

No its the same guy.

He just posts them alot... in like every thread because he thinks its the best way to play the game.

I dont know maybe it is, I tried them and I find all it does it makes you at war with the stupid AI for the entire game. Wars which generally end the same way combat does with the AI... in boredom and overwhelming victory.

On the one hand it does remove the need to progress along the staggeringly dull tech tree, so kudos for that?

This game is essentially useless to me in its current state, I dont find it engaging or challenging, so essentially the forums are about the only place to find things regarding Civ 5 which are in any way shape or form interesting.

[sumptuousmale]

I'll be happy when the next patch is released...as for now, I can't play this unfinished, supremely easy game. : ( The is the only civ game I've been able to beat on deity, and with ease too. To me, that's not good game design. Hopefully with the next patch the game will be playable again, I'm hopeful, but not too optimistic.

[Takao]

Small maps with one opponent never appealed to me, I always liked playing on the larger maps. In previous Civs, this was never a problem, however with all the rework in Civ V, playing a large game with several computer opponents is too much of a chore.

I'll be happy when this games gets out of Beta Testing and is finally fit for release, well re-release, because, IMHO, a lot of these "quirks", should have been caught and fixed before launch.

[kaybeebiscuits]

-.- What's up with posting this so many times across the forums?