Why should I pay good money for this?

[Carnifx]

Let me say this now... I buy my games.. I always have done, not because I have anything against nefarious actions but simply because I like having an original....

THAT BEING SAID...... what is up with all the crap involved with this release?

I categorically state I'm not buying this game..

I don't pay for......... LIMITED INSTALLS or ONLINE ACTIVATION.

When I buy a game I OWN (regardless of what the wool pulling companies try to make us believe) that game and I WILL play it on whatever computer I see fit to use.. whether online or offline.

Paying for something which not only has a limited usability (what brain donor came up with limited installs... and what fukwit ok'd it?) but also can only work under certain circumstances (i.e online activation)... and this says nothing about what happens when the activation servers !!!... just strikes me as the gullible, brain damaged actions that I have come to expect from today's sheep mentality consumers! ..... just think, if you had actually stood up for your consumer rights, had a little self control, and not rushed out to pay for something with utterly unreasonable clauses attached to it's usage, then when 2k found themselves with their main title not selling these issues would have been rectified immediately.

As for Ken Levine's "inspirational" massage stating that he had "assurances" from 2k that these matters would be dealt with..... yeah, mate I'll believe it when I see it.

If 2k had just been a little less ruthless and backed off from treating it's paying customers as criminals then (in my case..) they would have had £40 from me on the first day as opposed to being VERY lucky if they get £10 from me in a couple of years when it hits the bargain bins.

"The tighter you grasp something, the easier it slips away."

..... finally the AA issues..........OMG, how can screw ups like this still happen.. I don't care who's fault it is, the game should never have been release with such a fundamental feature broken... and as for it being a driver issue?!?!?!? Why didn't Irrational just state what drivers they were using to test it, because it "obviously" worked for them.. didn't it?

This release has been a mess... especially for a game which now holds very little resemblance to the game we were told we would be getting... it's now just turned into your run of the mill generic FPS.. instead of the SS2 inspired game which at least had things to do in it apart from running around shooting things.

[501105]

k goodbye....

[Carnifx]

Oh... and lets not forget the widescreen issues.

Jesus.. the more I read the worse it gets.

[Simbelmyne]

Let me say this now... I buy my games.. I always
especially for a game which now holds very little resemblance to the game we were told we would be getting... it's now just turned into your run of the mill generic FPS.. instead of the SS2 inspired game which at least had things to do in it apart from running around shooting things.

I wouldn't make that determination until you've played it yourself. I couldn't disagree more. It sounds like (like most of your post) that you're simply repeating the hyperbole that has been flooding these forums.

The online activation posed no problem for me. I didn't mind it any more than I mind entering a cd-key for most games.

If you feel it's too prohibitive of a process for you than that's your decision, however in my opinion you'll be missing out on a truly great game.

[-tommy-]

I think the limited installs is that you can install it on 2 computers at once. If you want it on a third, you'd have to uninstall it from one of the first two. Who is playing this game on 3 different computers?

Also if idiots would stop pirating games (at least amazing games like Bioshock lol) they hopefully wouldn't have the online activation crap. And yah I would agree that it's comlete crap, but what is the cause of it?

[Carnifx]

I don't doubt that I will be "losing out" to a certain degree.. it certainly looks the business... but all the added crap and "ammendments" made to the game (lame decisions like the uneccessary health station renames.. after 2 minutes playing you'd know what they were so why change it?) and the ridiculous restrictions on playing make it a non starter.

It's real money they expect me to pay with, not pieces of garbage and leaves off trees, I've better things to do with my money than give it to a profit organisation who fundimentally don't trust me.

[conantheking]

You asked why should you get the game. I ain't to good with words but let me tell you something, this game is epic. Spectacular, brilliant, amazing etc

By not playing this game you are missing out big time on one of the greatest FPS games to have been made.

[Joeyd999]

I don't pay for......... LIMITED INSTALLS or ONLINE ACTIVATION.

When I buy a game I OWN (regardless of what the wool pulling companies try to make us believe) that game and I WILL play it on whatever computer I see fit to use.. whether online or offline.


Read an end user lisence agreement for once. You don't own a single piece of software you have installed on your computer other than freeware like microsoft. You don't own windoze, they lisence it to you. Grow up and play the game, the whole world isn't going to bend over backwards for you.

[Novastorm]

You should not pay good money for this at the moment. I did and i wish i hadn't. Not that the gameplay/story isn't great as far as i can tell from what i've seen between crashes, but simply because it's a bugged release. Give it a month or two to get patched up good (cuz i really don't see them getting rid of more than 25% of the problems within a month) and you'll (probably) be buying a great game.
Although i'd check the site/forums first to see if the patches are released and good.
I'm gonna re-play oblivion and SupCom 1st and check bioshock next month or something. Waited a long time for this game, so whats another month.

[Joeyd999]

Read an end user lisence agreement for once. You don't own a single piece of software you have installed on your computer other than freeware like microsoft. You don't own windoze, they lisence it to you. Grow up and play the game, the whole world isn't going to bend over backwards for you.

Freeware like FIREFOX.

[gensicke]

I agree completely with your thoughts

[shenry]

I, too, think the copy-protection scheme for the boxed version of this PC title to be ridiculous and unacceptable. I will not purchase the boxed version of this PC title.

However, I *am* playing it, because I purchased it through Steam. No copy protection at all, and once I've downloaded it, I can play it whether I'm connected or not.

I recommend purchasing this game through Steam. It truly is epic. I remember feeling like this when I first played the original Half-Life. It breaks new ground, and does it beautifully.

[debacler]

The Steam version contains SecuROM and the exact same restrictions.

[Nishido]

Carnifx, if you don't want to buy this, don't buy it. Simple as that. But don't come on here spouting off like you have the right, because you don't. You've just come on here regergitating the same old crap that's been said a hundred times in a dozen different threads already. Believe it or not, this is a forum for people who wish to discuss this game, not for prebubescent pissed-off teen #3468 to come on here looking for attention. Now bugger off and let everyone else discuss the game that they have purchased.

[Grimhound]

The Steam version contains SecuROM and the exact same restrictions.

Yet. Steam version is exactly the same as retail in that regard.

[Tamalero]

I wouldn't make that determination until you've played it yourself. I couldn't disagree more. It sounds like (like most of your post) that you're simply repeating the hyperbole that has been flooding these forums.

The online activation posed no problem for me. I didn't mind it any more than I mind entering a cd-key for most games.

If you feel it's too prohibitive of a process for you than that's your decision, however in my opinion you'll be missing out on a truly great game.

just because _YOU_ dont have problems, doesnt mean everyone isnt having problems..

[Carnifx]

Really makes me laugh when people post telling others not to complain.

I'll complain if I want.. how d'you like them apples?

Just because you bend over for profit making organisations.... don't post your fascism at me.!

[scarcus]

I don't doubt that I will be "losing out" to a certain degree.. it certainly looks the business... but all the added crap and "ammendments" made to the game (lame decisions like the uneccessary health station renames.. after 2 minutes playing you'd know what they were so why change it?) and the ridiculous restrictions on playing make it a non starter.

It's real money they expect me to pay with, not pieces of garbage and leaves off trees, I've better things to do with my money than give it to a profit organisation who fundimentally don't trust me.

My best advice? Leave the forum and forget you ever heard about Bioshock. Thanks and good bye dude/dudette or whatever you are.

[Idle Hands]

OP, your thoughts and remarks are both interesting and original. I would love information on how I can sign up for your newsletter.

In other words, QQ more.

[Thief259]

You my good sir, are a whiny sissy girls. j/k

We've heard it all before, why does everybody feel that they need to come by and explain to the people who like the game, why they are not buying it? They must think that we care or somthing.

[AJ Rimmer]

Really makes me laugh when people post telling others not to complain.

I'll complain if I want.. how d'you like them apples?

Just because you bend over for profit making organisations.... don't post your fascism at me.!

nobodys telling you not to complain.

but just curious as to why your moaning especially as you havent even paid for the game. ?

makes no sense to be whining about something your not even suffering from or even own.

just makes the whining for whinings sake....ie: trolling

[Katana]

Dont know if it works on all cards, but if you want AA in the game you can use the program nHancer (google and you shall find).

Widescreen-issue can be solved with this little hack, http://dl.tocaedit.com/bioshockdFOV.zip

I can agree that the securom-thing is a bit weird.. but by the time they remove securom (which they've said they will do when the game doesnt sell as much as now @ release) i bet i havent installed the game more than like.. 3 times max.. why would i install my game 100 times anyway? And if ya just uninstall before you format your disk or whatever it should work OK anyway?

Yeye, your mistake if you dont buy the game, as it's like the best game since Half-life, and the best game i've ever played :)

Metascore says it all,
http://www.metacritic.com/games/pc/scores/

[Simbelmyne]

just because _YOU_ dont have problems, doesnt mean everyone isnt having problems..

Of course, Captain Obvious, I never said otherwise.

I realize that many people (not including the original poster of course who has yet to even buy the game) are having real and viable issues. Conversely, there are many spreading half truths and gross exaggerations as well.

My point was that it's best for one to see for themself as opposed to preemptively hopping on the complaint wagon.

[BioShockWins]

Why should I care that you don't want to buy this game?

Seriously, what good reason do you have to come here?

[spaztek]

Why should I care that you don't want to buy this game?

Seriously, what good reason do you have to come here?

Because the official 2K forums are the outlet for providing feedback from customers and potential customers.

Why would you click on the thread if you really don't care ?

[Hod the Reborn]

Because the official 2K forums are the outlet for providing feedback from customers and potential customers.

Why would you click on the thread if you really don't care ?

That's what the Questions for Team forum is for.

I agree with BxWins, though. OP should realize that the only reason he's posting this is to ☺☺☺☺☺ and whine. Seems like most of these new members who make accounts to moan are probably under the age of 15 and are immature and childish. OP, if you have such a gorram problem with the game, then don't buy it! Jeez, was that hard? You DON'T have to come here and clog the forums like all of the other mindless 2K haters.

[spaztek]

That's what the Questions for Team forum is for.

I agree with BxWins, though. OP should realize that the only reason he's posting this is to ☺☺☺☺☺ and whine. Seems like most of these new members who make accounts to moan are probably under the age of 15 and are immature and childish. OP, if you have such a gorram problem with the game, then don't buy it! Jeez, was that hard? You DON'T have to come here and clog the forums like all of the other mindless 2K haters.

I agree that many of these threads are pointless, and some of you who seem to have no life outside of posting here seem rightly frustrated by reading so many of these threads.

But you also need to realize, (as I posted before) that these forums are the outlet for criticism, and these "complainers" have just as much right to post, as you fanboys do to argue with them.