View Full Version : It's time for answers
Cel-Ru
08-14-2010, 10:11 PM
That translation really makes me feel alot better about pre ordering the ps3 edition, still... if it is like the demo , just gnna return it and buy pc version probably.. either way i cant wait for this game!!
Yes.. i am with you, if what is said at this preview is true, i think all the people here can be more secured... but if this is untrue afterall i will do like you and buy a PC version! (but without PhysX, if i turn on this... my PC will explode!)
Melpoe
08-14-2010, 11:58 PM
I believe the dutch reviewer is lying, if you look at the background of the video he is showing gameplay for the 360, I know because I saw a the actual whole video which I am trying to fine atm.
humleren
08-15-2010, 12:05 AM
I believe the dutch reviewer is lying, if you look at the background of the video he is showing gameplay for the 360, I know because I saw a the actual whole video which I am trying to fine atm.
Why whould he be lying..? This is a big and popular magazine in Holland, would totally ruin their credability... oh wait, in english it's called the Netherlands. right?
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 12:08 AM
I believe the dutch reviewer is lying, if you look at the background of the video he is showing gameplay for the 360, I know because I saw a the actual whole video which I am trying to fine atm.
Most of the reviewers show only one version of the game, but analise all of them, and he's showing the xbox 360 version in whole video I think, anyway he's not gonna winning nothing lying like that...
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 12:09 AM
Why is he showing off 360 gameplay in the background and not any ps3 gameplay? if someone could get that video I would appreciate it because I cannot find it on google. I know it 360 gameplay because if you see the whole video 360 buttons prompt up.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 12:14 AM
I found it :D at 1:10 he opens a door using the "x" button :).
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/mafia2/video/6269959
Anyway I still find it weird the dutch reviewer would not show any ps3 gameplay.
humleren
08-15-2010, 12:16 AM
I found it :D at 1:10 he opens a door using the "x" button :).
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/mafia2/video/6269959
Anyway I still find it weird the dutch reviewer would not show any ps3 gameplay.
there is a definite possibility that he is not allowed to do that by 2k. If you notice it, it's only official gameplay shown..
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 12:17 AM
Why is he showing off 360 gameplay in the background and not any ps3 gameplay? if someone could get that video I would appreciate it because I cannot find it on google. I know it 360 gameplay because if you see the whole video 360 buttons prompt up.
Yes, 360 bottons apear at the end, in a CQC fight, but it's because he's only showing that version because he doesn't compare them, anyway I don't find the video either in the main web of gameking...
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 12:19 AM
there is a definite possibility that he is not allowed to do that by 2k. If you notice it, it's only official gameplay shown..
Why would they hold him from showing gameplay for the PS3?? I mean they allowed him to review it -_-.
humleren
08-15-2010, 12:21 AM
Why would they hold him from showing gameplay for the PS3?? I mean they allowed him to review it -_-.
Yeah, but that's not the same though.. actually that is only a preview, and he only uses footage released by 2k. I'm pretty sure he isn't allowed to show the footage from the ps3 version yet, since 2k is holding back the reviews..
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 12:56 AM
If that dutch guy says there are no problems with the PS3 version.. then there are no problems with the PS3 version.
He has no reason to lie.. Has he?
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 01:22 AM
If that dutch guy says there are no problems with the PS3 version.. then there are no problems with the PS3 version.
He has no reason to lie.. Has he?
Well... theorically he doesn't have any reason to lie, so... by now i trust him!
Alex1911
08-15-2010, 01:56 AM
If that dutch guy says there are no problems with the PS3 version.. then there are no problems with the PS3 version.
He has no reason to lie.. Has he?
I don't trust this reviewers much , many are paid by the publishers to give better reviewers than the games actually are :rolleyes:
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 01:58 AM
What i tell ya guys? Theres nothing to worry about. :)
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 01:58 AM
I don't trust this reviewers much , many are paid by the publishers to give better reviewers than the games actually are :rolleyes:
We're not talking about Activision and their Call Of Duties.
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 01:59 AM
I don't trust this reviewers much , many are paid by the publishers to give better reviewers than the games actually are :rolleyes:
Yes.. this is possible too... but well i think that the PS3 must be almost like Xbox 360 is, so.. if a man who has played at the final version, well we think that, is saying that the final is better, by now i trust him!
humleren
08-15-2010, 02:06 AM
What i tell ya guys? Theres nothing to worry about. :)
My point exactly.. the reviewing business isn't all that corrupt. I know that a lot of big companies tries to bribe or influence the magazines, but if they take bribes and the review games to be better than they are, they're cred is gone and they're done for..People will definitly notice if a reviewer praises a game that is crappy..
assurdum
08-15-2010, 03:23 AM
What i tell ya guys? Theres nothing to worry about. :)
Need to be realistic here. Reading 'ps3 version is fine' in a review not means identical to 360 version. I just remember the case of Red Dead Redemption, where the ps3 review talking of great build but compared to 360, was an another story. So, I think this time to stop to speculate the impossible and evaluate what we have: demo & dlc gameplay video of ps3 version. Yeah, probably the final build run better (but I'm not expect an incredible difference), but why a demo & video gameplay of dlc exclusive of the ps3 should be older compared to 360 demo? So, it's time to go on & to accept the comprimise compared to microsoft console.
humleren
08-15-2010, 03:46 AM
Need to be realistic here. Reading 'ps3 version is fine' in a review not means identical to 360 version. I just remember the case of Red Dead Redemption, where the ps3 review talking of great build but compared to 360, was an another story. So, I think this time to stop to speculate the impossible and evaluate what we have: demo & dlc gameplay video of ps3 version. Yeah, probably the final build run better (but I'm not expect an incredible difference), but why a demo & video gameplay of dlc exclusive of the ps3 should be older compared to 360 demo? So, it's time to go on & to accept the comprimise compared to microsoft console.
Hardly. Read the earlier posts. It makes sense that the demo is dummed down.
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 04:13 AM
Need to be realistic here. Reading 'ps3 version is fine' in a review not means identical to 360 version. I just remember the case of Red Dead Redemption, where the ps3 review talking of great build but compared to 360, was an another story. So, I think this time to stop to speculate the impossible and evaluate what we have: demo & dlc gameplay video of ps3 version. Yeah, probably the final build run better (but I'm not expect an incredible difference), but why a demo & video gameplay of dlc exclusive of the ps3 should be older compared to 360 demo? So, it's time to go on & to accept the comprimise compared to microsoft console.
It not say "ps3 version fine" it says older builds of xbox ab ps3 have problems with Anti-Aliasing, frame rate and another stuff, but these problems are solved completely in the final version. And about ps3 version he says there are awesome graphics.
Anyway if you want believe that final version is like a demo made for E3 conference, is your point.
humleren
08-15-2010, 04:15 AM
It not say "ps3 version fine" it says older builds of xbox ab ps3 have problems with Anti-Aliasing, frame rate and another stuff, but these problems are solved completely in the final version. And about ps3 version he says there are awesome graphics.
Anyway if you want believe that final version is like a demo made for E3 conference, is your point.
Exactly, why on earth would he state that the final build of the ps3 version is awsome if it were like the demo? That would be the lie of the century..
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 04:22 AM
It remember me God of War 3, I was one who could play beta version of the game. I recieved a mail of sony with a psn code. It was the same demo of E3. That's was about 6 months before the release, after that the same demo was uploaded to ps Store, a month before the release. It was the same demo, not with bad graphics, but the game had much better ones.
So that is what happened with mafia 2, these demo, for ps3, xbox and pc, are the same what were at E3 of this year. The difference is ps3 version don't had so much details that xbox or pc ones, because there were made by separeted ways and xbox and pc version are more finished than ps3 one, but it doesn't mean tge final build will be unfinished.
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 04:37 AM
With games like these, what have years of development, devs can't wasting time with developments of more better locking demos, the working hard to complete the details of the final product, I think.
humleren
08-15-2010, 05:36 AM
With games like these, what have years of development, devs can't wasting time with developments of more better locking demos, the working hard to complete the details of the final product, I think.
First things first: i think you're right. Honestly, nothing else really makes sense. And secondly.. seriously looking forward to Elizabeth from 2k clearing uo the situation tomorrow, as she promised she would.
Adressed to Elizabeth: Thank you. Looking forward to get some answers at long last. If you happened to forget: All everybody here want's tp know is:
Will the retail-version of Mafia 2 for ps3 have:
- Motionblur?
- better anti-aliasing?
- Bloodpools beneath fallen enemies?
- grass / foliage?
- Cloth-movement of any sort? (in trenchcoats and such)
On behalf of ps3-gamers waiting for this game: Thanks.
oh yeah, one more thing. Is this screen really from the ps3-version of the game or is it a fake?
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/mafia2/images/0/7/
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 05:36 AM
It remember me God of War 3, I was one who could play beta version of the game. I recieved a mail of sony with a psn code. It was the same demo of E3. That's was about 6 months before the release, after that the same demo was uploaded to ps Store, a month before the release. It was the same demo, not with bad graphics, but the game had much better ones.
So that is what happened with mafia 2, these demo, for ps3, xbox and pc, are the same what were at E3 of this year. The difference is ps3 version don't had so much details that xbox or pc ones, because there were made by separeted ways and xbox and pc version are more finished than ps3 one, but it doesn't mean tge final build will be unfinished.
THANK YOU!!!! That's what me and humleren have been trying to tell people for a week now. But it seems some people on here are so hard headed that the automatically think just cause the demo is not up to par with the other 2 versions, it sucks, it's going to look the same blah, blah, blah.
I mean is that how you people are? whenever something doesn't go the way you plan, you automatically think negative of whats to come without even seeing the final outcome first? c'mon people lets not act like children. ;)
humleren
08-15-2010, 05:45 AM
hey guys..
a new pic :) i know it's really small, but try enlarging it an take a look at the far right side og the picture
http://www.ps3news.com/images/img_22041-2.jpg
enjoy :)
humleren
08-15-2010, 05:46 AM
THANK YOU!!!! That's what me and humleren have been trying to tell people for a week now. But it seems some people on here are so hard headed that the automatically think just cause the demo is not up to par with the other 2 versions, it sucks, it's going to look the same blah, blah, blah.
I mean is that how you people are? whenever something doesn't go the way you plan, you automatically think negative of whats to come without even seeing the final outcome first? c'mon people lets not act like children. ;)
Nice that more people are getting on the more positive way of thinking... and the more logical way of thinking if you ask me. Check out the pic i just posted. Enlarge it by 400 % and check the right side ;) enjoy. And btw ArclorenSarth thank you for taking a positive perspective here.
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 05:49 AM
Nice that more people are getting on the more positive way of thinking... and the more logical way of thinking if you ask me. Check out the pic i just posted. Enlarge it by 400 % and check the right side ;) enjoy. And btw ArclorenSarth thank you for taking a positive perspective here.
i got a mafia 2 screenshot? :confused: we'll it has the almighty grass all the way to the far right haha :D
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 05:51 AM
And secondly.. seriously looking forward to Elizabeth from 2k clearing uo the situation tomorrow, as she promised she would. [/url]
Well she said she will say something in Monday or Thuesday or the next week.. meaning between 16-22.
humleren
08-15-2010, 05:54 AM
i got a mafia 2 screenshot? :confused: we'll it has the almighty grass all the way to the far right haha :D
Yeah well.. i hadn't seen this screen before.. and it looks more like a playstation screen actually since the texturing is slightly more rough than those gamespot posted..
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 05:58 AM
Yeah well.. i hadn't seen this screen before.. and it looks more like a playstation screen actually since the texturing is slightly more rough than those gamespot posted..
It is a ps3 screen cause if you look closely at whos driving the car it's that bold guy from the DLC. Plus that screen circle thing on the top right hand corner that's also from jimmy DLC so it is from PS3. And it has GRASS!!! OMFG!!!! now people can finally be calm with this grass thing. :D lol i honestly couldn't care less tho. lol
humleren
08-15-2010, 05:59 AM
It is a ps3 screen cause if you look closely at whos driving the car it's that bold guy from the DLC. Plus that screen circle thing on the top right hand corner that's also from jimmy DLC so it is from PS3. And it has GRASS!!! OMFG!!!! now people can finally be calm with this grass thing. :D lol i honestly couldn't care less tho. lol
Ha ha ... no, but well.. whatever it takes to calm people :)
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 06:01 AM
It is a ps3 screen cause if you look closely at whos driving the car it's that bold guy from the DLC. Plus that screen circle thing on the top right hand corner that's also from jimmy DLC so it is from PS3. And it has GRASS!!! OMFG!!!! now people can finally be calm with this grass thing. :D lol i honestly couldn't care less tho. lol
Are you talking about the pic updated at Gamespot?
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 06:05 AM
Nice that more people are getting on the more positive way of thinking... and the more logical way of thinking if you ask me. Check out the pic i just posted. Enlarge it by 400 % and check the right side ;) enjoy. And btw ArclorenSarth thank you for taking a positive perspective here.
Not gotta thank me! It's not positive perspective is mine and yours logical and realistic perspective, I think, so we don't have to worry about it!!:) :) :)
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 06:12 AM
The picture link redirects to another image name "nohotlink" or something like that XDDDDDDDDD
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 06:12 AM
Ha ha ... no, but well.. whatever it takes to calm people :)
ok now im confused :confused:
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 06:27 AM
I still can not acces to that link, it redirects me to this one:
http://www.ps3news.com/images/nohotlink.jpg
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 06:36 AM
I still can not acces to that link, it redirects me to this one:
http://www.ps3news.com/images/nohotlink.jpg
Why are you linking this! is just a small picture of a PS3 Slim!
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 06:38 AM
LMAO you people have to save the pic and then open it up and you'll see what it is.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:00 AM
Its still not working guys either way if you save it, it is a picture of a ps3 slim. Either someone has changed the picture or has taken it down. Could someone who has saved it re-release it please. Thank you
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 07:04 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/idt83m.jpg
you have to zoom in. And in the far right you'll see grass. Supposedly this is the DLC exclusive screen for PS3. Not sure tho.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:09 AM
Thank you very much and wow this looks great, i think this is from the DLC because if you think about it it would be a big coincidence but the pics posted on gamespot are of the same location that this picture is in and same setting and weather (was raining in theirs to) if this is what the game looks like i am more than pleased:D
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:09 AM
Its still not working guys either way if you save it, it is a picture of a ps3 slim. Either someone has changed the picture or has taken it down. Could someone who has saved it re-release it please. Thank you
No... it seems to be broken or something!
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 07:10 AM
This image is from gamespot of the dlc and if you look to the right under the bush their is no grass effect and it is all flat.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/mafia2/images/0/3/?tag=thumbs_below%3Bthumb%3B3
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:10 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/idt83m.jpg
you have to zoom in. And in the far right you'll see grass. Supposedly this is the DLC exclusive screen for PS3. Not sure tho.
Oh! yes is true at the right of the pic! well i have seen already this pic but never noticed this grass!
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 07:14 AM
This image is from gamespot of the dlc and if you look to the right under the bush their is no grass effect and it is all flat.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/mafia2/images/0/3/?tag=thumbs_below%3Bthumb%3B3
That screen is probably from the beginning stages. It wasn't done.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:15 AM
I think your right even the gamespot pic looks rough, this looks nicely polished and crisp how a final version would.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 07:16 AM
That screen is probably from the beginning stages. It wasn't done.
Well I hope it's "probably" from the begging stages because I would love the ps3 version to look like the pic you showed.Also were the pictures given to gspot given from 2k? if so why would they give such an outdated picture?
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:18 AM
Maybe 2k gave them those pics a while ago but were under strict orders not to release them until the game was further closer to release
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 07:19 AM
Maybe 2k gave them those pics a while ago but were under strict orders not to release them until the game was further closer to release
No this picture was given out on the 8th I believe. It says so above the picture when it was released.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:22 AM
it says the 6th, but that does not mean they got the pic on the 6th. Thats just the date it was posted. For all we know they could of had these for long time but 2k said not to release them. that or 2k gave them crappy pics. But also we do not know if those pics were officailly from 2k
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:29 AM
Something just caught my eye. Remmeber the ign video and everyone posted it and there was a section where the bald guy got out of his car and killed a guy and blew up a car and it had bad textured grass, well....
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/mafia2/images/0/2/?tag=thumbs_below%3Bthumb%3B2
this is the same exact area but with grass, and i doubt this is a PC pic do to the resolution being not as good. I have a feeling there is going to be all these things in the final version, maybe ign's vid was from an old source.
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 07:38 AM
Exactly! it can't be a PC pic. Cause PS3 IS THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY DLC!!!!
Going back to the picture i posted before. That's probably what the final game is going to look like. Cause if you look at the old beta DLC screens with the bad textures and all that stuff, it had the same circle thing on the top right hand corner. So you be the judge ;)
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 07:46 AM
Exactly! it can't be a PC pic. Cause PS3 IS THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY DLC!!!!
Going back to the picture i posted before. That's probably what the final game is going to look like. Cause if you look at the old beta DLC screens with the bad textures and all that stuff, it had the same circle thing on the top right hand corner. So you be the judge ;)
Again everything, including the dlc for the ps3 was developed on the pc first.
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:49 AM
Yes! about that, this had been already talked at "PS3 DEMO issuse" thread, is true is the same location! and it seems to be a PS3 because, like it has been already said, the texture and the graphics are a little inferior as PC is at High. So it's a good reason to keep believing! good aportation!
This is why PS3 has no grass!
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3045/remembernograss.png
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:51 AM
Again everything, including the dlc for the ps3 was developed on the pc first.
Sorry but i see no sense... why a exclusive DLC will be made at PC, they have PS3 dev kit to be used for devoloping the PS3 stuff, there is no reason to do somthing exclusive at PC for then, making a port or a modification to make it available to PS3 structure that is a lot different than Xbox and PC.
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:53 AM
This is why PS3 has no grass!
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3045/remembernograss.png
What is that!? we are talking about Mafia II not a flash game (sorry but i definitly HATE THIS "SUB-GAME")
What is that!? we are talking about Mafia II not a flash game (sorry but i definitly HATE THIS "SUB-GAME")
It's just a MW2 photoshope'd screen for laughs and jokez
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 07:56 AM
well if you could see the expression on my face right now you would see no smile nor hear any laughter you @sshole...........LMFAO im just joking with you man ive bseen it before and it gives me a chuckle now and then. Cheers to you
well if you could see the expression on my face right now you would see no smile nor hear any laughter you @sshole...........LMFAO im just joking with you man ive bseen it before and it gives me a chuckle now and then. Cheers to you
A'right we need to do this, just remmember..NO GRASS.
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 08:00 AM
Again everything, including the dlc for the ps3 was developed on the pc first.
I dont't know why you all still loking at the same pictures again, many reviews and previews are finished already, no one of them said anything about graphics lack, and belive me, if the final version was like the demo the said something "The Anti-Analiasing is worse than gta 3", but they only said graphics are awesome. So we don't have to be worry at all! Ok maybe people like Melpoe still be worried until ign or gamespot will made their reviews. But you gonna waste your time!
And Melpoe don't be so negative, I hate people of the forums who only can denie facts, "don't believe that", "don't believe that", "don't believe that", "no", "no", "no", IT'S NASTY!!!
I said you again if you don't want recognize the facts, so DON'T BUY THE GAME, no one is pressing you, HELL!!!!!!
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 08:00 AM
i swear to god if there is grass in this game im prob just gonig to sit my character in a park in a car and just have the car parked on it for a while just to saviour the moment lmao, and then if there is blood spatter and pools of blood *crosses fingers for* ill stand in a pile of blood for a few mins. Just feel sorry for the unlucky bastard i have to kill to do it.
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 08:03 AM
It's just a MW2 photoshope'd screen for laughs and jokez
OOOOOOh!! Moder ****tfare 2, a new Flash game of Activision?
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 08:03 AM
its kinda like when me and my gf started to have sex, we wasted so much time waiting and hoping she would get her period, then in the end she did and we wasted all that time stressing instead of doing other things....it shows you stressing and worrying wastes time. (only example relating to what you said i could think of) lmfao
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 08:05 AM
its kinda like when me and my gf started to have sex, we wasted so much time waiting and hoping she would get her period, then in the end she did and we wasted all that time stressing instead of doing other things....it shows you stressing and worrying wastes time. (only example relating to what you said i could think of) lmfao
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaah....... Not bad example....... at ALL!
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 08:18 AM
So, maybe tomorrow we finally get some answers (Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho hohoooooooooo....)
Anyway, that's what we want to know:
Will PS3 final version of Mafia 2............
-will have better Anti-Aliasing.......................................... ......yes/no
-will have better Shadows........................................... ..........yes/no
-will have Cloth Phisics........................................... ...............yes/no
-will have motion blur.............................................. ..............yes/no
-will have blood pools............................................. ...............yes/no
-will have GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS...........YES/NO
Thanks for............................................... .................Answering/Not Answering
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 08:52 AM
I doubt she will answer those questions...If she does ill love her
1130211
08-15-2010, 09:04 AM
I would love nothing more than to hear her or anyone from the team give us an absolute answer on the matter. But the fact of the matter is we are not going to get an answer. This forum has been going on for how long now? With CLEAR, and I mean CLEAR questions asked.
The fact of the matter is we are getting jerked around and even if there is grass in the final build we shouldn't be getting tossed aside.
Haha, $85 is not pocket change when I decided to pre-order this game.
I think she owes us some answers and without being judgmental I will give her Monday. But when Monday comes around, we still get jerked around like a bunch of idiots with her stupid responses. There will be hell to pay.
Moderators/[SOME] Senior Members/Member's of 2K, Stop. Just Stop. Stop sticking up for her. Stop trying to build some sort of gratification as if her responses have been 'just' and ours have been made unfairly.
"Red Dead Redemption"
"GTA IV"
"THE GTA EXPANSIONS"
Not to mention other games that I'm sure we've been cheated on.
You know why they stuck her here, to stall us. They put her here to fortify our concerns, nothing more. How can you think differently? If she spent so much time on the games that she says she has why can't we get an answer?
Oh? Because the Executives need to give her the "OK" to claim graphical facts about the game. Even so, she gets one more chance.
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 09:05 AM
its kinda like when me and my gf started to have sex, we wasted so much time waiting and hoping she would get her period, then in the end she did and we wasted all that time stressing instead of doing other things....it shows you stressing and worrying wastes time. (only example relating to what you said i could think of) lmfao
oh madona mia'! :rolleyes:
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:08 AM
I would love nothing more than to hear her or anyone from the team give us an absolute answer on the matter. But the fact of the matter is we are not going to get an answer. This forum has been going on for how long now? With CLEAR, and I mean CLEAR questions asked.
The fact of the matter is we are getting jerked around and even if there is grass in the final build we shouldn't be getting tossed aside.
Haha, $85 is not pocket change when I decided to pre-order this game.
I think she owes us some answers and without being judgmental I will give her Monday. But when Monday comes around, we still get jerked around like a bunch of idiots with her stupid responses. There will be hell to pay.
Moderators/Senior Members/Member's of 2K, Stop. Just Stop. Stop sticking up for her. Stop trying to build some sort of gratification as if her responses have been 'just' and ours have been made unfairly.
"Red Dead Redemption"
"GTA IV"
"THE GTA EXPANSIONS"
Not to mention other games that I'm sure we've been cheated on.
You know why they stuck her here, to stall us. They put her here to fortify our concerns, nothing more. How can you think differently? If she spent so much time on the games that she says she has why can't we get an answer?
Oh? Because the Executives need to give her the "OK" to claim graphical facts about the game. Even so, she gets one more chance.
I agree with you 100 percent, buddy...we have been set aside and picked off. I mean, it doesn't take much brain power to give us a simple yes or no question.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:13 AM
I think the problem with the fact is that Liz does not work on the game, maybe she is a secretary for 2k or maybe has a different job at 2k. If she cant give clear difinitive answers than maybe she doesnt work on the game, and when tomorrow roles around she will go to the devs and ask them herself and posts the answers back on these boards.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:15 AM
I hope so...maybe I'm wrong about this whole thing and my experiences with the PS3 demo was an old build and they have fixed up on these problems
If you can Liz please give us an answer!
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:17 AM
95% tells me obviously its an old build so it should improve, i just wanna know by how much and if those improvements gratify my purchase, but relax shes not on here today she will get us answers by tomorrow or sometimes this week
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:19 AM
I'm relaxed...i know she was going to answer Monday. I'm just waiting...on all those yeses she'll give us :) ...let's hope
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:21 AM
If we get No's what can you do, when life gives you lemons you simply take a lemon, squirt it in one of the developers eyes and walk away.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:23 AM
lol...i know what I'm going to do...not buy it...and they'll just say...who cares...nothing we can do
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 09:24 AM
If we get No's what can you do, when life gives you lemons you simply take a lemon, squirt it in one of the developers eyes and walk away.
haha.
If the ps3 version is like the demo, then i might have to buy the 360 version and play with that. If the dlc is really that good than i might even buy two copies :)
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 09:25 AM
If we get No's what can you do, when life gives you lemons you simply take a lemon, squirt it in one of the developers eyes and walk away.
or up their nose while they sleep :D
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:26 AM
well if it is indeed a crappy version, ill just wait till i have enough money to get a good enough PC to run the game on high and pirate it. Just proves dont F*** with the public and try to sell lies, cuz you end up getting burned.
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 09:28 AM
I HIGHLY doubt that's gonna happen tho. The PS3 version is probably either going to be a tad bit better than the xbox or identical. I really don't care which ones which, as long as the final build is good and looks great im cool. And i really think it's gonna be fine at the end.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:30 AM
There probably lieing
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:31 AM
Same with me, if the final version reaches my approval then its a purchase, even if its a little like the demo and they released bullshot pics, id never trust a 2k organization again. But i have a feeling thats not the case because i have the feeling the final build will be spectacular.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:32 AM
i agree with you.
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 09:33 AM
Right now i see it as 50/50 where there is difinitive proof that the game is crap, to the other 50 being the game is phenominal. We have enough sources from both sides to draw it right down the middle right now. All now we have to do is wait for Liz to message us with the final 50% on either side.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:35 AM
Can't wait for that, buddy
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 09:54 AM
Now all we have to do is wait...wait...wait...wait...wait...wait...
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:02 AM
I hope we don't have to wait for too long, i still need to pre-order the game because im not sure which console version to get.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:09 AM
Me too...I just want grass, blood pools, and motion blur...i don't care about apex clothing physics because you'll need a PC for that.
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:14 AM
Me too...I just want grass, blood pools, and motion blur...i don't care about apex clothing physics because you'll need a PC for that.
I mainly want: (in order)
1) grass: makes the game look much more better with the 3d grass
2) blood, makes the game look more realistic
3) debri on the floor( probably not at all in the console versions, but looks amazing)
4) fallen leaves and rubbish on the ground( did not see this on the ps3 version, seen it clearly on the 360 version)
What does motion blur do exactly?
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:16 AM
I mainly want: (in order)
1) grass: makes the game look much more better with the 3d grass
2) blood, makes the game look more realistic
3) debri on the floor( probably not at all in the console versions, but looks amazing)
4) fallen leaves and rubbish on the ground( did not see this on the ps3 version, seen it clearly on the 360 version)
What does motion blur do exactly?
When you are driving in a car everything goes blury
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 10:24 AM
when you go on high speeds on a vehicle, the screen goes blurry like a rush. It was on GTAIV.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:26 AM
Yes, exactly right and when i played the demo, no grass, no blood pools and no motion blurs. But then i played the Xbox version and everything's there
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:29 AM
So it in some way create a sense of speed? thats cool.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:31 AM
Yea it really adds the the sense of realism. If non of this is in the game,the ps3 version of coarse, i will put it in my toilet, take a dump and flush it
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 10:35 AM
again, the ps3 demo like the 360 and pc demo is a beta version of the e3 demo, which means it was build months ago before the finished it for E3 this year. Since the developed the game for 3 different platforms by that time they where almost done with the PC and 360 version. Which is why they look superior to the PS3 version since the PS3 takes longer to develop for which is why the PS3 demo looks the way it is.
This must be the 5th time I've said this. I can't make it more clearer than this people.
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:36 AM
Yea it really adds the the sense of realism. If non of this is in the game,the ps3 version of coarse, i will put it in my toilet, take a dump and flush it
Hahaha, if the ps3 version is bad for me, i will either sell it and get the 360 version or use it as a target for my BB gun and destroy it! :)
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:38 AM
sorry for making it difficult for you, but i know the why the ps3 looked like crap but there were so many fakes like that photo shopped picture where jimmy is sitting in a car and it says get out and a has a ps3 triangle
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:40 AM
sorry for making it difficult for you, but i know the why the ps3 looked like crap but there were so many fakes like that photo shopped picture where jimmy is sitting in a car and it says get out and a has a ps3 triangle
But has that been confirmed as a fake?
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:40 AM
no...good point
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:43 AM
i hope its not fake!
im the don kind
08-15-2010, 10:44 AM
I think theres more reason for why it can be the ps3 version:
1. its the exclusive DLC from the ps3
2. has the triangle
3. the trees look like the ones form the ps3 demo, the PC and 360 have different trees
4. its been related as a ps3 screenshot.
why it carnt: something to do with resolution.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 10:45 AM
the resolution was amazing in that screen shot,which is kind of suspicious...but everything looks good in that picture
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 11:07 AM
the resolution was amazing in that screen shot,which is kind of suspicious...but everything looks good in that picture
why is it so hard to believe that it is a PS3 screenshot? i mean just wait until the game comes out, then judge because if the final product ends up looking like that screenshot then the people who where negative and assumed the game was going to look like the demo all this time are going to look like complete dumb asses at the end.
So stop with all this negative ****. Just wait patiently then judge.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 11:17 AM
I hope i look like a dumb crap in the end because it will show that i am wrong about this whole thing and we will have grass, blood pools and motion blur in the final product!:)
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 11:32 AM
I hope i look like a dumb crap in the end because it will show that i am wrong about this whole thing and we will have grass, blood pools and motion blur in the final product!:)
Listen dude i don't wanna sound like a prick at all but theres been soo much negativity in this forum over the past week, it's ridiculous.
I wish that demo never came now....
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 11:58 AM
you don't sound like a prick...i wish there was no demo either...
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 12:27 PM
Im glad there was a demo, because if i walked in the store payed for my Collectors edition driving home happy only to put it in my console and see it look like this, id fly to 2k myself and ☺☺☺☺☺☺ slap them. But thats speculating if it looked like crap.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 12:35 PM
but what if the ps3 version has no bugs and grass...everything we wanted....if there was no demo we wouldn't be complaining right now...but we are because we want are ****ing demands...excuse my language....and it Monday Liz, wake the **** up!
Sicilian
08-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Ya but i think the threads would be WAYYYY more hotter if we saw no demo and paid for a full retail finished version thinking it was fine then taking it home and it wasnt, its like finding out you won the lottery but you forgot to buy your damn ticket.
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 12:53 PM
Ya but i think the threads would be WAYYYY more hotter if we saw no demo and paid for a full retail finished version thinking it was fine then taking it home and it wasnt, its like finding out you won the lottery but you forgot to buy your damn ticket.
good point, but maybe our answers will be cleared up by this afternoon or tonight....I'm looking all over the place for answers on why the ps3 has certain things cut out....I'm obsessed with it...lol:D
Catacalyst
08-15-2010, 01:04 PM
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Spike88
08-15-2010, 01:23 PM
Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
You do realize that she lives in California? The current time in California is 10:59 PM, Sunday 15 2010. That means she is most likely going to sleep about now, and will not be getting into work for atleast 10 hours. Which means you're looking at 12+ hours before there is any sort of reply. ;)
JXhitman23
08-15-2010, 02:27 PM
You do realize that she lives in California? The current time in California is 10:59 PM, Sunday 15 2010. That means she is most likely going to sleep about now, and will not be getting into work for atleast 10 hours. Which means you're looking at 12+ hours before there is any sort of reply. ;)
Yea ur right but we are waiting for her answers:)
Spike88
08-15-2010, 02:40 PM
Yea ur right but we are waiting for her answers:)
It's a sad fact that we have to wait a while.
Alakabam
08-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Am i the only one whos not waiting for her answers? i mean sure i would like to know but it won't bother me one bit if she doesn't say anything. Idk maybe thats just me. :p
ArclorenSarth
08-15-2010, 04:48 PM
Right now i see it as 50/50 where there is difinitive proof that the game is crap, to the other 50 being the game is phenominal. We have enough sources from both sides to draw it right down the middle right now. All now we have to do is wait for Liz to message us with the final 50% on either side.
I don't see this 50/50 dude.
All we got, many previews, screen-shots, devs saying their bull****s... It's saying that final version will be as good as in xbox or maybe even better.
In the oposite we only have the "look" of the demo (which from E3) and VIDEO of the DLC (from E3 too)
The facts talk they-selve: "It gonna be a great Game and we don't have to worry about it"
P.S: I like Alakabam repeated this SOOOO MANY TIMES!!!:) :) :)
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 06:18 PM
I don't see this 50/50 dude.
All we got, many previews, screen-shots, devs saying their bull****s... It's saying that final version will be as good as in xbox or maybe even better.
In the oposite we only have the "look" of the demo (which from E3) and VIDEO of the DLC (from E3 too)
The facts talk they-selve: "It gonna be a great Game and we don't have to worry about it"
P.S: I like Alakabam repeated this SOOOO MANY TIMES!!!:) :) :)
Not better, they said on the forums somewhere that Xbox and PS3 will look and run identical.
humleren
08-15-2010, 07:24 PM
Not better, they said on the forums somewhere that Xbox and PS3 will look and run identical.
And that is why i think it will... 2k doesn't usually screw around with their customers like square enix or activision.. So, yeah.. think alakabam is right (still right)
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 07:26 PM
And that is why i think it will... 2k doesn't usually screw around with their customers like square enix or activision.. So, yeah.. think alakabam is right (still right)
I hope will be as Xbox 360 but if could be a litter better, could be really amazing!
andrewz
08-15-2010, 07:45 PM
The Betrayal of Jimmy screens are not a definite proof of PS3 technical quality, because the original screens are in 1920x1200, which is a resolution that PS3 can't deliver (PS3's max. resolution is FullHD, which is 1920x1080, while Mafia II will run, in the best case, in 720p - but do you remember GTA IV X360 vs. PS3...?). Have a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/4866272531/sizes/o/in/photostream/ . The original article from PSBlog can be found here: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/06/mafia-iis-ps3-exclusive-dlc-the-betrayal-of-jimmy/ . Other offline renders of this PS3 exclusive DLC can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/sets/72157624545096824/with/4866272531/ .
We will have to wait for an answer from 2K Games staff...
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 07:51 PM
The Betrayal of Jimmy screens are not a definite proof of PS3 technical quality, because the original screens are in 1920x1200, which is a resolution that PS3 can't deliver (PS3's max. resolution is FullHD, which is 1920x1080, while Mafia II will run, in the best case, in 720p - but do you remember GTA IV X360 vs. PS3...?). Have a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/4866272531/sizes/o/in/photostream/ . The original article from PSBlog can be found here: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/06/mafia-iis-ps3-exclusive-dlc-the-betrayal-of-jimmy/ . Other offline renders of this PS3 exclusive DLC can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/sets/72157624545096824/with/4866272531/ .
We will have to wait for an answer from 2K Games staff...
There ps3, just been upscaled.
andrewz
08-15-2010, 07:56 PM
There ps3, just been upscaled.
They are not upscaled, it's a native offline render. Have you seen an upscaled picture? It's not as sharp as the original: http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html .
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 08:29 PM
They are not upscaled, it's a native offline render. Have you seen an upscaled picture? It's not as sharp as the original: http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html .
Well.. this true... but i don't know maybe is one of these picture like the GT5 ones! i remember that the size was around 5700x3200 or something like that! maybe is just and upscale to make it more beautifull... i don't know. You have here a link: http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-18mp-photomode-screenshots-from-e3-2010/
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 09:18 PM
Am i the only one whos not waiting for her answers? i mean sure i would like to know but it won't bother me one bit if she doesn't say anything. Idk maybe thats just me. :p
Well like you and me we don't care about the grass and the other effects to a point where that would stop us from purchasing the game but even you should be a little irritated that 2k has yet to reply to are simple questions.
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 09:24 PM
They are not upscaled, it's a native offline render. Have you seen an upscaled picture? It's not as sharp as the original: http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html .
Def PS3, look at the AA, if it was pc they would be way sharper
KiLLbuRsT
08-15-2010, 09:26 PM
Pools of Blood?
3D Grass?
Motion Blur?
Clothes Pysx?
Those the question we are all waiting to be answered.This is in regards to the PS3 version.
Someone from 2K,Liz someone please answer us.We are waiting...............................>
Xardas
08-15-2010, 09:29 PM
Guys, unless you have anything NEW to say, don't post in this thread. Liz already knows what you guys want answered and she will get right on it as soon as she has gone to work and asked around. Its still 6 a.m. where she lives and I highly doubt she goes to work earlier than 7-9 a.m.
When she gets the answers, she will post them. Otherwise, respect her rule and don't post anything unless its new. Thanks.
humleren
08-15-2010, 09:39 PM
Def PS3, look at the AA, if it was pc they would be way sharper
I do agree with you on that. This screen is either from a crappy pc, or from the ps3 version. Xardas, you're right. I think it will be hours before anyone get's any answers, so everyone: hang tight and let's see what happens :) I'm sure Liz is on it, and yeah, hardly fair to demand answers at 6 in the morning. Bet she is still sleeping ;) So no point in that.. Looking forward to answers, but still.. little issues is hardly something that will keep me away from this game.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 09:39 PM
LIZ TO THE RESCUE!! :D :D :D
... Sorry. :o
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 09:42 PM
Guys, unless you have anything NEW to say, don't post in this thread. Liz already knows what you guys want answered and she will get right on it as soon as she has gone to work and asked around. Its still 6 a.m. where she lives and I highly doubt she goes to work earlier than 7-9 a.m.
When she gets the answers, she will post them. Otherwise, respect her rule and don't post anything unless its new. Thanks.
Hell she said a while ago that it might be monday (today duh) tuesday or maybe even late within the week..
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 09:44 PM
Liz... Ooooooooh Liz... Wake up sleepy head.
It's time for you to get up, get dressed.. Head to work & let the forum members know that there's grass, blood pools & motion blur in the PS3 version of Mafia II !! :D
Xardas
08-15-2010, 09:49 PM
Hell she said a while ago that it might be monday (today duh) tuesday or maybe even late within the week..
I don't see why that changes the reason why you guys shouldn't post information that's not new? She knows where the thread is, so you don't have to bump it up, and you're just forcing her to read through all this to find out if there's any new information. That's just going to take longer and it will delay her answer. Now who wants to wait longer for an answer?
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 09:50 PM
I think you guys should see this: http://www.insidegamer.nl/playstation3/mafiaii/screenshots
I don't know if it are the same pictures shown on gamespot, but I see motion blur, bloodpiles and grass. It's a dutch site, but the pictures count.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 09:50 PM
... Is 2K Elizabeth usually late for work, by any chance?
It's a serious question, I swear.. :D I just want to how long we'll be waiting before we get an answer.. like does she make her coffee first? take her coat off before settling down on her PC?
Because, I'm kinda expecting her to just rush into work, jump onto the PC & let us know about the PS3 version immediately.. It's an emergency :p
humleren
08-15-2010, 09:51 PM
Liz... Ooooooooh Liz... Wake up sleepy head.
It's time for you to get up, get dressed.. Head to work & let the forum members that there's grass, blood pools & motion blur in the PS3 version of Mafia II !! :D
Well, never been the biggest fan of motionblur, so for me that would almost be a win if they didn't include it.. but anyway, guess i think better AA is more important. Actually, that wasn't my point. Guys, give Liz a break.. she is on it. I'm sure she just want's to be absolutely certain before saying anything. She would be lynched on the forums if she said something that wasn't correct, so i can understand that she wants to check with the developers first.
humleren
08-15-2010, 09:52 PM
... Is 2K Elizabeth usually late for work, by any chance?
It's a serious question, I swear.. :D I just want to how long we'll be waiting before we get an answer.. like does she make her coffee first? take her coat off before settling down on her PC?
Because, I'm kinda expecting her to just rush into work, jump onto the PC & let us know about the PS3 version immediately.. It's an emergency :p
Honestly, emergency? Hardly lifethreatening in anyway, and yeah, if you were being eaten by a shark and the only one that could save you was Liz, sure, then it would be an emergency. But seriously, wouldn't you rather have the right answer than just an answer? Butter to know exactly what to expect.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 09:53 PM
I think you guys should see this: http://www.insidegamer.nl/playstation3/mafiaii/screenshots
I don't know if it are the same pictures shown on gamespot, but I see motion blur, bloodpiles and grass. It's a dutch site, but the pictures count.
Those are from Gamespot's site dude.. The only thing that's different is the InsideGamer.nl logo at the bottom right which was obviously just pasted there.
Hmmm.. But this screenshot really interests me everytime I see it: http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
I've seen it countless times.. but the more I see it, the more I believe! :rolleyes:
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 09:57 PM
Honestly, emergency? Hardly lifethreatening in anyway, and yeah, if you were being eaten by a shark and the only one that could save you was Liz, sure, then it would be an emergency. But seriously, wouldn't you rather have the right answer than just an answer? Butter to know exactly what to expect.
Yeah, your right.. Take all the time you need, Liz. :)
But know this please, Every hour that passes by, I begin to get even more & more worried 'bout how the full PS3 version performs. :(
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 10:04 PM
I don't see why that changes the reason why you guys shouldn't post information that's not new? She knows where the thread is, so you don't have to bump it up, and you're just forcing her to read through all this to find out if there's any new information. That's just going to take longer and it will delay her answer. Now who wants to wait longer for an answer?
Well, again i'm with Xardas... if we don't want to take it more longer... we must just add a new information because if she wants a complet answer she will need to read all she want to answer... so yes, i think that we can talk a little about a pic released or a new gameplay but not about 2 or 3 pages.
Well... this is what i think :p
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:05 PM
... But why the grass & blood pools though?
That's what I can't get my head 'round.. It's not like they take alot of the PS3's power just being there..
Something just isn't right here.. The only thing I can come up with is that the PS3 side of the dev team just forgot to put 'em in the PS3 demo. That's all I can think up, really.
Like, Not only that yeah.. But in the PS3 demo, I've noticed another two things that are wierdly missing like seagulls & the plane that flies across as you cross that motorway bridge..
I think what's going on here is that.. 2K Games have two separate teams for each console platform.. And the PS3 side forgot to add in these minor details into their demo .. And the final version is absolutely fine, like.. nearly 100% the same as the full X360 version
That's what I think.
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:06 PM
I'm more concerned about screen etaring, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's popping up randomly, people appearing in front of your car, buildings being built up pixel by pixel right in front of our eyes.
Thos are the problems affecting the console versions in my opinion^
I couldn't care less about grass. (and she already confirmed theres no grass or blood pools in the final version anyway)
So Liz, when you reply please let us know if there's any info on those issues as opposed to these other nit-picky issues like grass.
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 10:06 PM
Those are from Gamespot's site dude.. The only thing that's different is the InsideGamer.nl logo at the bottom right which was obviously just pasted there.
Hmmm.. But this screenshot really interests me everytime I see it: http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
I've seen it countless times.. but the more I see it, the more I believe! :rolleyes:
I didn't visit gamespot yet, so I didn't know what pictures they had.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:08 PM
Yeah, your right.. Take all the time you need, Liz. :)
But know this please, Every hour that passes by, I begin to get even more & more worried 'bout how the full PS3 version performs. :(
I wouldn't be all that worried if i were you. Yeah sure, the demo causes some concerns, but no way in hell they would release that as the final product. Seriously, compare it to the other versions? That would be suicide by 2k. That would instantly kill their chances to sell anything to ps3-users anytime soon again. And the ps3 is really picking up speed in sales.. it would be a disaster for 2k. Anyway, i do really doubt that those screens are fake. Honestly, all the big gaming sites in the world has those pictures.. surely somebody checked the validity of the pictures. Anything else would seem really odd to me. I'm studying journalism, and if nobody checked the source of those pictures, the man in charge should be sacked immediatly.. If i were the editor, and those screens were fake, i would fire the guy responsible.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:10 PM
I'm more concerned about screen etaring, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's popping up randomly, people appearing in front of your car, buildings being built up pixel by pixel right in front of our eyes.
Thos are the problems affecting the console versions in my opinion^
I couldn't care less about grass. (and she already confirmed theres no grass or blood pools in the final version anyway)
So Liz, when you reply please let us know if there's any info on those issues as opposed to these other nit-picky issues like grass.
She hasn't confirmed anything yet? That ambigious nonsense she was blapping out yesterday makes no sense what so ever, and all she said was that there would be no bloodpools in the demo.. which we allready know..
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:14 PM
She hasn't confirmed anything yet? That ambigious nonsense she was blapping out yesterday makes no sense what so ever, and all she said was that there would be no bloodpools in the demo.. which we allready know..
You were there, it was you she replied to. I think it was pretty clear cut.
There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo
We are not talking about the demo Liz, people are worried about the retail version for ps3.
I am also talking about the retail version.
I don't see how it could be any clearer, I mean it's pretty obvious what she's saying. It's very direct and not ambiguous or vague at all. She clearly stated she was also talking about the full retail version, how could she be any clearer?
Anyway the real problems lie within screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
Grass seems like such a petty complaint to me when there's all of these other issues.
Xardas
08-15-2010, 10:17 PM
She said:
"There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo"
I'm sure she just made a mistake when she said retail version considering she was trying to keep up with the thread and her responses were less than minutes apart.
As for the blood:
I think the reason why they didn't add the blood to the demo is because underage kids can get a hold of the demo. Then again, they put the Playboys in there so that blows that theory out of the water lol. I'm pretty sure naked women would be more taboo than blood pools. Anyway, we'll get our answer today hopefully.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:17 PM
I don't see how it could be any clearer, I mean it's pretty obvious what she's saying. It's very direct and not ambiguous or vague at all. She clearly stated she was also talking about the full retail version, how could she be any clearer?
Yeah? .. Then explain this please.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
And I find it very hard to believe on how somebody can fake the above pic.. It looks like it was captured straight from the screen while somebody was playing the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jimmy " DLC on a PS3.
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:18 PM
You were there, it was you she replied to. I think it was pretty clear cut.
I don't see how it could be any clearer, I mean it's pretty obvious what she's saying. It's very direct and not ambiguous or vague at all. She clearly stated she was also talking about the full retail version, how could she be any clearer?
Anyway the real problems lie within screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
Grass seems like such a petty complaint to me when there's all of these other issues.
Then why would 2k release dlc pics which show grass and blood?
Cel-Ru
08-15-2010, 10:20 PM
Yeah? .. Then explain this please.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
And I find it very hard to believe on how somebody can fake the above pic.. It looks like it was captured straight from the screen while somebody was playing the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jimmy " DLC on a PS3.
Oh may god this will become the HOLY PIC of Mafia II PS3 :)
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:20 PM
Later on she stated that she didn't know but would find out about the retail version. So there.. wait and see. I will smoke my own beard if the retail version is as ugly as demo, and i will post pics for you guys... happy? Now, just wait for her to answer. Anyway, i'm not all that hung up on this, but seriously, grass and blood is hardly something that's all that hard to make in a game... Seriously seems like an idiotic place to skip for a game developer...
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:20 PM
Yeah? .. Then explain this please.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
And I find it very hard to believe on how somebody can fake the above pic.. It looks like it was captured straight from the screen while somebody was playing the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jimmy " DLC on a PS3.
Omg stop it just stop it. people have been going around saying how that could possibly be a doctored photo so just stop using that as reinsurance.
Everything from mafia 2 came from the pc first even the dlc for the ps3, it was all developed on the pc.
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:22 PM
She said:
"There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo"
I'm sure she just made a mistake when she said retail version considering she was trying to keep up with the thread and her responses were less than minutes apart.
It was a direct reply to the other guy. I can't see how it could have been any clearer.
"There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo"
"I am also talking about the retail version."
Come on. Pretty easy to get to grips with in my opinion.
and Enkei, weren't those images already proven fake in another thread? They were to high a resolution to be real, they could only be from a PC.
As for it being DLC, there's a second DLC based on the same guy released across all platforms. Could easily be from that. Or it could be the ps3 exclusive is only a timed exclusive and will be released for other platforms later (and that image is taken from PC).
I'd choose to believe someone who works for 2K than some random journo (all blood sucking animals if you ask me).
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:25 PM
and Enkei, weren't those images already proven fake in another thread? They were to high a resolution to be real, they could only be from a PC.
As for it being DLC, there's a second DLC based on the same guy released across all platforms. Could easily be from that. Or it could be the ps3 exclusive is only a timed exclusive and will be released for other platforms later (and that image is taken from PC).
I'd choose to believe someone who works for 2K than some random journo (all blood sucking animals if you ask me).
Dude, The "Betrayal of Jimmy" DLC is EXCLUSIVE to the PS3. It cannot be played on any other console apart from the PS3, Understand this. It's already been made perfectly clear by 2K Dan that it won't be coming to any other platform..
Only the "Vendetta of Jimmy" will be coming to the other platforms.. Besides, There is no reason for 'em to fake the images.. And how you can believe that they were faked is beyond me..
How in the hell can they fake that screenshot? As far as I can see, they were captured at a much higher resolution & shoved onto Gamespot's server
... It's the PS3 version. :rolleyes:
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:26 PM
It was a direct reply to the other guy. I can't see how it could have been any clearer.
"There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo"
"I am also talking about the retail version."
Come on. Pretty easy to get to grips with in my opinion.
and Enkei, weren't those images already proven fake in another thread? They were to high a resolution to be real, they could only be from a PC.
As for it being DLC, there's a second DLC based on the same guy released across all platforms. Could easily be from that. Or it could be the ps3 exclusive is only a timed exclusive and will be released for other platforms later (and that image is taken from PC).
I'd choose to believe someone who works for 2K than some random journo (all blood sucking animals if you ask me).
WOW if those pics are from a PC then the AA is bad and so is the shadow quality. NOT PC, you honestly think 2K would fake pics with grass and blood, thinking noone would notice on the release:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Dude, The "Betrayal of Jimmy" DLC is EXCLUSIVE to the PS3. It cannot be played on any other console apart from the PS3, Understand this. It's already been made clear by 2K Dan that it won't be coming to any other platform..
Only the "Vendetta of Jimmy" will be coming to the other platforms.. Besides, There is no reason for 'em to fake the images.. And how you can believe they were faked is beyond me..
How in the hell can they fake that? ... It's the PS3 version. :rolleyes:
omg...... you are so blind
EVERYTHING WAS DEVELOPED ON THE PC FIRST!
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Yeah? .. Then explain this please.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
And I find it very hard to believe on how somebody can fake the above pic.. It looks like it was captured straight from the screen while somebody was playing the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jimmy " DLC on a PS3.
And if you think that picture is fake, here's another one: http://www.insidegamer.nl/playstation3/mafiaii/screenshots/150240
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:28 PM
omg...... you are so blind
EVERYTHING WAS DEVELOPED ON THE PC FIRST!
Explain the "Triangle" button, dont tell me, photoshopped?:D :rolleyes:
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Dude, The "Betrayal of Jimmy" DLC is EXCLUSIVE to the PS3. It cannot be played on any other console apart from the PS3, Understand this. It's already been made perfectly clear by 2K Dan that it won't be coming to any other platform..
Only the "Vendetta of Jimmy" will be coming to the other platforms.. Besides, There is no reason for 'em to fake the images.. And how you can believe that they were faked is beyond me..
How in the hell can they fake that? ... It's the PS3 version. :rolleyes:
Doesn't matter if it's ps3 exclusive, all games are built and tested on PC (yes even PS3 games).
Also like I said it could easily be from the other jimmy dlc which is avaiable to all platforms.
It could also be a doctored image to try and make the game look better.
All I'm saying is that I believe someone who works for 2K over a random journo. (and some random image that has been proven to be to high a resolution to be from PS3 because the ps3 cannot handle that sort of resolution, literally impossible).
and Haydyn there not from 2K there from a random journo.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:29 PM
Explain the "Triangle" button, dont tell me, photoshopped?:D :rolleyes:
either photo shopped by a no life loser or false advertisement from 2k.
I mean honestly do you people believe everything you see? If I showed you a picture of stalker 2 that had the triangle button to open a door would you believe stalker 2 is coming to the ps3?
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:29 PM
omg...... you are so blind
EVERYTHING WAS DEVELOPED ON THE PC FIRST!
No, It was developed on a PS3 devkit. :o
Anyway, There is no way in hell that the image is faked.. I find it very hard to believe that.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
either photo shopped by a no life loser or false advertisement from 2k.
Photoshopped by GameSpot? ... Why in the hell would they want to waste their time doing that? :confused:
Load of rubbish.. It's a screenshot capturd from the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jim" DLC.. running on the PS3.
I have no reason to think otherwise.. Case closed. :D
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
Doesn't matter if it's ps3 exclusive, all games are built and tested on PC (yes even PS3 games).
Also like I said it could easily be from the other jimmy dlc which is avaiable to all platforms.
It could also be a doctored image to try and make the game look better.
All I'm saying is that I believe someone who works for 2K over a random journo. (and some random image that has been proven to be to high a resolution to be from PS3 because the ps3 cannot handle that sort of resolution, literally impossible).
and Haydyn there not from 2K there from a random journo.
IGN and Gamespot dont just take pics from random people. There PS3 end of, same Hud, same huge crosshair.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
No, It was developed on a PS3 devkit. :o
Anyway, There is no way in hell that the image is faked.. I find it very hard to believe that.
.....my head is going to implode if I keep reading your comments.
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:32 PM
I don't understand you kids. You say you want confirmation from 2K, then when they give you confirmation you try to prove them wrong, them the people who respresent the company.
It's like you're in denial.
They gave you confirmation but because it's not what you wanted to hear, you're all choosing to ignore it.
Liz, again before this topic fills up with more nonsense I want to remind you of the real problems on the consoles;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
These are serious problems that everyone will take notice of, not some petty gripe like how short the grass is.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:32 PM
Photoshopped by GameSpot? ... Why in the hell would they want to waste their time doing that? :confused:
Load of rubbish.. It's a screenshot from the PS3 exclusive "Betrayal of Jim" DLC.. running on the PS3.
I have no reason to think otherwise.. Case closed. :D
*IMPLODES* *WOOOSH!!!!!*
1130211
08-15-2010, 10:32 PM
Oh come on. How can you be so dense and say that, the whole topic has been made clear numerous times. It's not like new information has been added for days.
It's pretty clear what we want, and I'm not going to repeat it because everyone knows what we want. It's not like someone is going to bust in here and demand a set of 50 more concerns they have in the matter of 1 hour.
She can easily click to the last page answer the question THE WHOLE TOPIC is about and leave and everyone will be happy.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:32 PM
It was a direct reply to the other guy. I can't see how it could have been any clearer.
"There will not be large pools of blood or individual blades of grass in the PS3 demo"
"I am also talking about the retail version."
Come on. Pretty easy to get to grips with in my opinion.
and Enkei, weren't those images already proven fake in another thread? They were to high a resolution to be real, they could only be from a PC.
As for it being DLC, there's a second DLC based on the same guy released across all platforms. Could easily be from that. Or it could be the ps3 exclusive is only a timed exclusive and will be released for other platforms later (and that image is taken from PC).
I'd choose to believe someone who works for 2K than some random journo (all blood sucking animals if you ask me).
Thanks for letting us all know your ridiculous attitude towards journalists. It's a great profession, and yeah, some are bloodsucking leaches living of others misory, but some of us are honest, hardworking and puts honesty first in hour work. Like myself. And honestly, i was actually hoping to one day work in gaming-journalism.. and you think they are all bloodsucking leaches too? How would you ever know squat about what games are in development, coming up, being released or anything like that without them? Seriously, keep your dimwitted opinions to yourself and get on back on the topic. Man, i'm seriously getting tired of guys exclaiming an entire profession to be bloodsuckers... So, shall we return to the topic, or are you just gonna keep insulting journalists?
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:34 PM
As much as I like 2K Elizabeth.. I find it very hard to believe her as she is Marketing/Sales :o
Besides.. I don't think she has even played the full game herself..
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 10:34 PM
I don't understand you kids. You say you want confirmation from 2K, then when they give you confirmation you try to prove them wrong, them the people who respresent the company.
Because the pictures prove their words wrong.
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:35 PM
I don't understand you kids. You say you want confirmation from 2K, then when they give you confirmation you try to prove them wrong, them the people who respresent the company.
It's like you're in denial.
They gave you confirmation but because it's not what you wanted to hear, you're all choosing to ignore it.
Liz, again before this topic fills up with more nonsense I want to remind you of the real problems on the consoles;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
These are serious problems that everyone will take notice of, not some petty gripe like how short the grass is.
Yeh no grass is OK, im sure the PS3 isnt powerful enough right? WRONG No grass imo means lazy devs who couldn't be botherd. Even GTA:SA had grass for christs sake:mad: :mad:
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:35 PM
As much as I like 2K Elizabeth.. I find it very hard to believe her as she is Marketing/Sales :o
Besides.. I don't think she has even played the game herself..
She stated a while ago that she has played it across all platforms.
Also she did say "yes the ps3 retail version" unless she was mistaken but honestly that is a pretty big mistake to make so hopefully soon she gets some confirmation.
1130211
08-15-2010, 10:35 PM
Thanks for letting us all know your ridiculous attitude towards journalists. It's a great profession, and yeah, some are bloodsucking leaches living of others misory, but some of us are honest, hardworking and puts honesty first in hour work. Like myself. And honestly, i was actually hoping to one day work in gaming-journalism.. and you think they are all bloodsucking leaches too? How would you ever know squat about what games are in development, coming up, being released or anything like that without them? Seriously, keep your dimwitted opinions to yourself and get on back on the topic. Man, i'm seriously getting tired of guys exclaiming an entire profession to be bloodsuckers... So, shall we return to the topic, or are you just gonna keep insulting journalists?
Wow, I agree that's cold, I'm thinking of becoming a journalist.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:37 PM
As much as I like 2K Elizabeth.. I find it very hard to believe her as she is Marketing/Sales :o
Besides.. I don't think she has even played the full game herself..
Honestly, i too find it hard to believe that a girl working in sales would have a icecubes chance in hell to even know what we're all talking about. I think i will wait, and then see if she turns up with some decent answers to all these questions.. i'm sure there will be issues, as with all games, but i would like to know which..
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:38 PM
Wow, I agree that's cold, I'm thinking of becoming a journalist.
Go for it. It's a great profession. And honestly, it's damn great to have such a diverse job. Best of luck.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:39 PM
Yes, we shall continue to wait for Liz.. :D
But until then, I stand by this screen shot as proof that the PS3 version is perfectly fine.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
*salutes* :p
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:39 PM
Honestly, i too find it hard to believe that a girl working in sales would have a icecubes chance in hell to even know what we're all talking about. I think i will wait, and then see if she turns up with some decent answers to all these questions.. i'm sure there will be issues, as with all games, but i would like to know which..
True, sales rep have little or no knowledge of Game Development
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:40 PM
Honestly, i too find it hard to believe that a girl working in sales would have a icecubes chance in hell to even know what we're all talking about. I think i will wait, and then see if she turns up with some decent answers to all these questions.. i'm sure there will be issues, as with all games, but i would like to know which..
Well she has played the game on all platforms (as stated by herself) and it doesn't take a developer to notice if there's grass or not :rolleyes:
I really am done with this topic now, Liz don't forget the real problems;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
Bye kids.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:42 PM
Well she has played the game on all platforms (as stated by herself)
Bull.. So much.. Bull. :D
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:42 PM
Yes, we shall continue to wait for Liz.. :D
But until then, I stand by this screen shot as proof that the PS3 version is perfectly fine.
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
*salutes* :p
MMMMM, NOT FAKE, zoom into the "Get out" text, you can see the pavement through the text gaps :) Too detailed to be faked :)
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 10:44 PM
Well she has played the game on all platforms (as stated by herself) and it doesn't take a developer to notice if there's grass or not :rolleyes:
I really am done with this topic now, Liz don't forget the real problems;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
Bye kids.
You're really ignoring me, aren't you? And why do you say 'kids'? It's a 18+ game, only people above 14 are on this topic. And I don't think they really like being called 'kids'. And to register you have to be 18+. Although many people lie about their age.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:44 PM
MMMMM, NOT FAKE, zoom into the "Get out" text, you can see the pavement through the floor :) Too detailed to be faked :)
Yes because these days it is so hard to fake detail such as that "get out" prompt >_>.
http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/photoshop-overrated.jpg
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:44 PM
Guys, i know it seems old by now, but if you take a close look of the AA and textures on this picture, it hardly seems to be computermanufactured. It would be much nicer then...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/06/mafia-iis-ps3-exclusive-dlc-the-betrayal-of-jimmy/
and yes, i know we have all seen it a thousand times, but i like to inspire a little optimism. Still, no reason to get way too excited before Liz get's back here and tell us what's what. Anyway, yeah, agree with little italy regarding the real problems. Though i think a little grass would be nice, and an odd thing not to have in this version of the same game..... that sure would be lazy dev work.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:45 PM
MMMMM, NOT FAKE, zoom into the "Get out" text, you can see the pavement through the text gaps :) Too detailed to be faked :)
Yeah, I notice that too.. Like, you can see the pavement through & around the text "Get Out"
Enough of this bull. That is definately the PS3 version, No doubt about it. :)
LittleItaly
08-15-2010, 10:45 PM
Bull.. So much.. Bull. :D
You're calling her a liar? Not a very nice thing to call someone when you're desperately waiting for their opinion.
What do you think she's going to do when she see's a topic full of insults like "some marketing chick cant know anything". She's going to say, **** you. And just ignore this topic completely.
She clearly stated she has played the game on all platforms and there is no grass. (use the search function if you don't believe me or just check her latest posts by going onto her profile).
Liz don't forget the real problems;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
- Posting in here for the very last time -
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:46 PM
Yes because these days it is so hard to fake detail such as that "get out" prompt >_>.
http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/photoshop-overrated.jpg
Ha ha... That's a fun pic. Yeah, it's pretty easy to fake stuff these days, but still, false advertising is sort of a big deal - if the screens were released by 2k and they're fake, they're getting lynched by the ps3 gamers..
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:46 PM
You're calling her a liar? Not a very nice thing to call someone when you're desperately waiting for their opinion.
What do you think she's going to do when she see's a topic full of insults like "some marketing chick cant know anything". She's going to say, **** you. And just ignore this topic completely.
She clearly stated she has played the game on all platforms and there is no grass. (use the search function if you don't believe me or just check her latest posts by going onto her profile).
Liz don't forget the real problems;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
- Posting in here for the very last time -
dont leave me with these fools!!!
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:48 PM
Yes because these days it is so hard to fake detail such as that "get out" prompt >_>.
http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/photoshop-overrated.jpg
I honestly think you just hate the fact that the PS3 version is going to be epic.:cool:
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:50 PM
dont leave me with these fools!!!
Big woop! This guy just insulted pretty much every journalist in the world, and half the guys on this forum. Hardly a loss if you ask me.. Anyway, he's right about the real issues though. And i hardly think it's an insult to say that a woman from marketing probably doesn't know all that much about the development of the game: It's not her job anyway.. Well, and that's probably why she is asking the devs. To get some believable answers..
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:50 PM
She clearly stated she has played the game on all platforms and there is no grass. (use the search function if you don't believe me or just check her latest posts by going onto her profile).
... Then I'd like for her (2K Elizabeth) personally to explain this screenshot.. :D
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:50 PM
You're calling her a liar? Not a very nice thing to call someone when you're desperately waiting for their opinion.
What do you think she's going to do when she see's a topic full of insults like "some marketing chick cant know anything". She's going to say, **** you. And just ignore this topic completely.
She clearly stated she has played the game on all platforms and there is no grass. (use the search function if you don't believe me or just check her latest posts by going onto her profile).
Liz don't forget the real problems;
screen tearing, fps issues, anti aliasing issues, tree's, people, shadows and buildings popping up randomly.
- Posting in here for the very last time -
Your saying 2k_Jack is lying when he said Xbox and PS3 will be identical ? And the dutch reviewers said the final build is superb.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:51 PM
... Then I'd like for her personally to explain this screenshot.. :D
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
Ok, seriously dude.. I'm with you here, but everyone seen that a million times by now..
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 10:52 PM
Ok, seriously dude.. I'm with you here, but everyone seen that a million times by now..
Its a nom nom pic and PS3 owners last hope!
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:52 PM
Your saying 2k_Jack is lying when he said Xbox and PS3 will be identical ?
Of course, He would say that. In not doing so, He would have been preventing potential sales..
But anyway, I do believe that the PS3 version is fine though. :)
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:52 PM
Your saying 2k_Jack is lying when he said Xbox and PS3 will be identical ? And the dutch reviewers said the final build is superb.
He said "in my opinion" which is just as bad as lying if the ps3 version really has all of these missing effects.
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 10:53 PM
I honestly think you just hate the fact that the PS3 version is going to be epic.:cool:
No, I just gave up hope since 2k is being so unprofessional and not even answering us.
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 10:55 PM
dont leave me with these fools!!!
Damn there should be a rule for this. 'Don't personal attack people'. Not everyone here is a 'fool'.
We are concerned about the game. I don't want to pay € 60 for a ****ty game.
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:56 PM
No, I just gave up hope since 2k is being so unprofessional and not even answering us.
Well, the did have weekend you know?.. anyway, yeah, it's been some time by now, and actually i'm not really sure why they did just ask a dev to get on the forums and give us the answers..
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:57 PM
That's what I'd like too.. For a PS3 dev to come on here & give it to us straight.
No ****ing about, you know?
humleren
08-15-2010, 10:59 PM
Damn there should be a rule for this. 'Don't personal attack people'. Not everyone here is a 'fool'.
We are concerned about the game. I don't want to pay € 60 for a ****ty game.
Agree with you on this one. Hardly seems to be appropriate. If you don't wanna talk to people in this forum, why the heck are you still here? Anyway, i don't really care, just think that being a bit appropriate isn't to much to ask. Hope you agree on this Melpoe. Sure would make this a lot more pleasant. I do understand that games can cause heated arguments, and that there's a certain amount of frustration in this long wait, but still, let's keep it civil. I will from now on anyway.
Enkeixpress
08-15-2010, 10:59 PM
... Oh, And if the PS3 dev answers that there is no grass, blood pools & motion blur in the full PS3 version.. aswell as no seagulls :(
Then I would like for him to explain this screenshot:
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
:)
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-15-2010, 11:03 PM
... Oh, And if the PS3 dev answers that there is no grass, blood pools & motion blur in the full PS3 version.. aswell as no seagulls :(
Then I would like for him to explain this screenshot:
http://media.insidegamer.nl/screenshots/public/11630/150236.jpg
:)
I agree with this, I said something similair already.
cjtiger300
08-15-2010, 11:27 PM
The Betrayal of Jimmy screens are not a definite proof of PS3 technical quality, because the original screens are in 1920x1200, which is a resolution that PS3 can't deliver (PS3's max. resolution is FullHD, which is 1920x1080, while Mafia II will run, in the best case, in 720p - but do you remember GTA IV X360 vs. PS3...?). Have a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/4866272531/sizes/o/in/photostream/ . The original article from PSBlog can be found here: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/06/mafia-iis-ps3-exclusive-dlc-the-betrayal-of-jimmy/ . Other offline renders of this PS3 exclusive DLC can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/sets/72157624545096824/with/4866272531/ .
We will have to wait for an answer from 2K Games staff...
This proves nothing. This screen of DeathSpank is 1600x1000. That is a res the PS3 doesn't do.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/4786613713/sizes/l/in/photostream/
haydn_18
08-15-2010, 11:44 PM
This proves nothing. This screen of DeathSpank is 1600x1000. That is a res the PS3 doesn't do.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/4786613713/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Exactly. When i get the game and of there is no grass or blood i want to know WHY!!!! No excuses for something like that!
Am i the only one whos not waiting for her answers? i mean sure i would like to know but it won't bother me one bit if she doesn't say anything. Idk maybe thats just me. :p
No,you're not the only one,I'm sure this game will be phenomenal,and if it doesn't has got grass,I don't care,I think this game is about atmosphere,story,characters and extreme situations that brings extreme emotions.
So,I'm happy for what I've seen so long.Plus the demo gameplay videos in PS3 I've seen looks really good.
:DI can't wait :D
Melpoe
08-15-2010, 11:56 PM
Agree with you on this one. Hardly seems to be appropriate. If you don't wanna talk to people in this forum, why the heck are you still here? Anyway, i don't really care, just think that being a bit appropriate isn't to much to ask. Hope you agree on this Melpoe. Sure would make this a lot more pleasant. I do understand that games can cause heated arguments, and that there's a certain amount of frustration in this long wait, but still, let's keep it civil. I will from now on anyway.
When I said "fools" I should have just said that ekiens guys, he really cannot make up his mind since like 2 days ago he was lying about how his ps3 demo was perfect >_>.
I mean Enkie.
I just hate how people can be so gullible and believe anything you throw at them.
humleren
08-15-2010, 11:59 PM
When I said "fools" I should have just said that ekiens guys, he really cannot make up his mind since like 2 days ago he was lying about how his ps3 demo was perfect >_>.
I mean Enkie.
allright, but don't hate. The guys just being optimistic. No reason to attack people personally. But thanks for keeping it civil from now on then. Hey btw. du you have an idea about what the time may be in the states by now... they're pacfic time. that's like 8 hours of difference from gmt.. so, i guess it's like.. 10 in the morning then.. right?
Alakabam
08-16-2010, 12:00 AM
so what i miss? :D LMAO
humleren
08-16-2010, 12:03 AM
so what i miss? :D LMAO
Nothing really.. actually, you missed nothing. Just guys starting to attack each other personally. But, it's seems that's there is a seacefire at this point in time..
AubryStrawberry
08-16-2010, 12:07 AM
Hi, i'm visiting this forum for at last 3 days, since i have played the PS3 demo, just like all the others players of PS3 demo, we want to get some kind of answer because is not at 2k Forums, is happening around all the videogames forums in the net, we just want an answer from anybody 2K worker to know the real situation of the Mafia 2 for PS3 now. This answer can be good or bad this doesn't care, if we get a good answer the people will re pre-order their copies for PS3 because all the people will be sure to get a really nice game, if is a bad answer it can't be worst because you already have lost a lot of pre-order, and the poeple who wants mafia 2 and just have a PS3 will decide if is good to pay about 60€ to get an 50% completed copy, if we are talking at the graphics".
There are a lot of questions unanserwed and we just want to know if all what we can see at the public demo of Mafia 2 (PS3) will be the last version, is just a question and we need just a real answer.
So c'mon it's not too difficult to say somthing in less than 1 week, time needed to re pre-order the copy.
Thanks to all 2K team and hope you understand our doubt.
That was a bit of a hard read my friend... Oh, and can you really expect 2k to release a low standard graphics game for the superior graphics console? I think its reasonable to expect some hold-back in a pre-release DEMO of one of the most anticipated games of the year!
cjtiger300
08-16-2010, 12:11 AM
Exactly. When i get the game and of there is no grass or blood i want to know WHY!!!! No excuses for something like that!
You missed my point, the image being a res the PS3 doesn't render doesn't prove that the screen is not from the PS3 version.
TAVI-RO
08-16-2010, 12:14 AM
hi , all!
I have a question, Mafia 2, which you can use as transport?
You can use?: Subways
Bus
TAXI
are others?
Water Phoenix
08-16-2010, 12:16 AM
in the demo at least I have been able to steal a taxi and a bus. I don't think there even is a subway though.
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 12:17 AM
Guys!
2K Elizabeth is back at work! We should get an answer soon, no? :D
Not yet - please don't start new threads on this topic.
Source (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1011460&postcount=3)
2K Elizabeth
08-16-2010, 12:18 AM
Hey guys,
This thread wasn't a place for you to post questions or comments or bugs - it's quite long now with off-topic info so if you want an answer that was posted in here over the weekend, please put it in the appropriate thread or PM it to me.
I'll let you know when I have an answer - but please don't assume because I'm at my desk there's something for you *right now* as there isn't.
Thanks.
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:20 AM
Yes be patient.I'm sure she is hard at work sifting though all these BS posts of the same damn questions.She'll be with us shortly :o
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 12:21 AM
Hey guys,
This thread wasn't a place for you to post questions or comments or bugs - it's quite long now with off-topic info so if you want an answer that was posted in here over the weekend, please put it in the appropriate thread or PM it to me.
I'll let you know when I have an answer - but please don't assume because I'm at my desk there's something for you *right now* as there isn't.
Thanks.
Thanks, Liz...we know your doing everything to get answers, so we will wait patiently
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 12:22 AM
Thanks, Liz...we know your doing everything to get answers, so we will wait patiently
Yeeeeeeaaaaaah.. We will wait patiently. :rolleyes:
:(
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:25 AM
YES YESAll we need is just a little patience!
haydn_18
08-16-2010, 12:25 AM
Hey guys,
This thread wasn't a place for you to post questions or comments or bugs - it's quite long now with off-topic info so if you want an answer that was posted in here over the weekend, please put it in the appropriate thread or PM it to me.
I'll let you know when I have an answer - but please don't assume because I'm at my desk there's something for you *right now* as there isn't.
Thanks.
We want to know if the FINAL builld of the Playstation 3 version is improved over the demo we played, its all anyone wants to know!
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 12:27 AM
We want to know if the FINAL builld of the Playstation 3 version is improved over the demo we played, its all anyone wants to know!
*nods*
Exactly.. It's not much of a big deal, really.. is it? :D
All she has to say is: "Yes, It's the same." or how about "No, The full game is much more improved" ...
haydn_18
08-16-2010, 12:29 AM
*nods*
Exactly.. It's not much of a big deal, really.. is it? :D
All she has to say is: "Yes, It's the same." or how about "No, The full game is much more improved" ...
5 Minute case of "Excuse me dev team bla bla bla" Then telling us!!
humleren
08-16-2010, 12:32 AM
Hey guys,
This thread wasn't a place for you to post questions or comments or bugs - it's quite long now with off-topic info so if you want an answer that was posted in here over the weekend, please put it in the appropriate thread or PM it to me.
I'll let you know when I have an answer - but please don't assume because I'm at my desk there's something for you *right now* as there isn't.
Thanks.
Hi Liz
I think this is the appropriate thread, due to the fact that everyone who wants to know is on this one. Anyway, the question was (regarding the retail-version for the ps3). compared to the demo:
- will there be better AA?
- will there be motionblur?
- will there be bloodpools beneath wacked enemies?
- will the fps be stable?
- will there be less pop-ins?
- will there be 3d-rendered grass (and not a flat surface)?
if anybody got anything to add, please feel free.
And Elizabeth. Thanks a lot for taking the time out to get this mess sorted. Much appriciated.
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:32 AM
Hey guys,how about waiting.
I'm starting to loose my patience having to tell all you guys to wait.She said she'll have the answers for us soon.Now go with that god dammit,and stop asking the same F@cking questions.............Geez,could I be anymore clear?
Andrew360llooll
08-16-2010, 12:33 AM
[QUOTE=Enkeixpress;1011520]*nods*
Exactly.. It's not much of a big deal, really.. is it? :D
All she has to say is: "Yes, It's the same." or how about "No, The full game is much more improved" ...[/QUOTE
She explained very well that we must wait because she doesn't either! Yet!;)
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:36 AM
That's my point.You guys that are asking the same damn questions and are only being selfish now.Liz,I'm sure is trying hard to get the answers we all seak,but until then,BE PATIENT!
Just give her a big THX for even helping us in the first place!
SirLeeuwenKlauw
08-16-2010, 12:40 AM
Thanks Liz.
And to add further to the guy above me. This topic isn't about the problems anymore, it's about us attacking each others posts. One says it's true, one says it fake. We just need to stop arguing with other members and just wait for 2K to say if it's fake or not.
Edit: I'm not going to make another post for this, but I'm going offline and I'll check back tomorrow.
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:43 AM
Couldn't have said that better myself.
:o
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 12:43 AM
it will be all set once Liz gives us Answers but until then, we will have to wait untill later on today or by next week
haydn_18
08-16-2010, 12:45 AM
Couldn't have said that better myself.
:o
Who put you in charge? A Yes or No would do us, weve been waiting for 6 FU***** DAYS:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 12:47 AM
Buddy,I don't have the patience to deal with you.No one said I'm in charge.I'm only trying to keep people inline so they don't fill this thread with BS posts.
The Devs must be thinking F u c k this.And I wouldn't blame them.Try putting yourself in their shoes.Stop being selfish,and wait.:cool:
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:09 AM
Liz, you should answer our questions by now...:)
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 01:09 AM
I'm only trying to keep people inline so they don't fill this thread with BS posts.
Hold up.. I'm pretty sure what your doing there is called "backseat moderating" which I'm pretty sure is against the forum rules.
Just sayin' .. It's the moderator's job to keep people in line.
humleren
08-16-2010, 01:12 AM
Hold up.. I'm pretty sure what your doing there is called "backseat moderating" which I'm pretty sure is against the forum rules.
Just sayin'
Well, i think it's fair to ask people to please stop posting crap.
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:13 AM
I just hope we are getting our money's worth...with the PS3 version i mean.
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 01:14 AM
Fine.......................let this thread turn into a sh?theap....
No I'm not "backseat"moderating or anything like that,I'm only trying to help people realize that they are going to wait for answers,and that by posting BS posts,they'll have to wait longer.Now,do you understand?
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:15 AM
ok...well...lets listen to him...lets me nice and friendly, so how our you guys days going? mines great!
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 01:16 AM
ok...well...lets listen to him...lets me nice and friendly, so how our you guys days going? mines great!
Off topic posting dude.. :D
This forum is about Mafia II.. so we must only talk about Mafia II.
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:17 AM
ok...umm...I love how detailed mafia 2 is...anyone agree with me?
KiLLbuRsT
08-16-2010, 01:18 AM
ok...well...lets listen to him...lets me nice and friendly, so how our you guys days going? mines great!
Thank you.Now lets all have this guys attitude.I have a feeling we will get what we want soon.:o
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:21 AM
Thank you.Now lets all have this guys attitude.I have a feeling we will get what we want soon.:o
Yes, thank you, so...lets stop ripping each other throats and talk about the positives about mafia 2 until Liz gives us answers about the grass and stuff
Andrew360llooll
08-16-2010, 01:33 AM
Well I really like how realistic the shooting is,and for example when you drive somebody over with the car the physix are amazing but when a car drives over you,it kinda pushes you...
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 01:35 AM
Yeah.. I love how when I shoot & kill a civilian on the ps3 demo.. No blood comes out of 'em, That's pretty damn cool :D
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:36 AM
yea i see...i guess they didn't put animation on when you get hit by a car...that doesn't bother me one bit...as long as it does damage and kills you it's fine with me? I can't wait for this game and the answers Liz will give us today!
dreamweaver
08-16-2010, 01:40 AM
Thank you.Now lets all have this guys attitude.I have a feeling we will get what we want soon.:o
Care to elaborate on this 'feeling' thing?
btw you the man, keep all the angry ps3 fans in line, with your baseless optimism:cool:
Andrew360llooll
08-16-2010, 01:40 AM
Guys we've got nothing to worry about,I'm very sure that's just a demo problem and will be fixed untill the game comes out.I mean,there are also audio problems (xbox 360 version) and alot of screen tearing and some frame rate isues and of course bad AA,I mean,they can't sell an unfinished game,or can they ? :)
haydn_18
08-16-2010, 01:42 AM
Still no reply? Wow:cool: :cool:
Catacalyst
08-16-2010, 01:43 AM
Still no reply? Wow:cool: :cool:
I'm waiting for her replay...
also, i saw a thread where there were reviews on it and the ps3 got the same review score as the xbox 360, it got an 87%
Enkeixpress
08-16-2010, 01:44 AM
Still no reply? Wow:cool: :cool:
Yeah.. I wonder.. Is 2K Elizabeth still alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI)? :confused:
I'm joking! I'm joking! Put the banhammer down, please.. :rolleyes:
.. I was just thinking, like.. If 2K Elizabeth were to say.. maybe get hit by a speeding vehicle sometime later today, How would we know?? :confused: ... Because, we want the answer.. you know
haydn_18
08-16-2010, 01:48 AM
I bet the Devs thought nobody would care. Now theyre thinking OH **** :eek: