Bioshock Infinite Discussion (Spoilers?)

[FtRapture]

Before the explosion of threads I thought I would start a discussion thread about the new Bioshock announced moments ago.

I will post the news we find below. Nothing redundant, I don't intend to post every single article out there as they are usually just about identical.



Syopsis:
BioShock Infinite is a first-person shooter currently in development at Irrational Games, the studio behind the original BioShock (which sold over 4 million units worldwide). Set in 1912, BioShock Infinite introduces an entirely new narrative and gameplay experience that lifts players out of the familiar confines of Rapture and rockets them to Columbia, an immense city in the sky.

Former Pinkerton agent Booker DeWitt has been sent to rescue Elizabeth, a young woman imprisoned in Columbia since childhood. Booker develops a relationship with Elizabeth, augmenting his abilities with hers so the pair may escape from a city that is literally falling from the sky. DeWitt must learn to fight foes in high-speed Sky-Line battles, engage in combat both indoors and amongst the clouds, and harness the power of dozens of new weapons and abilities.

Main Site:
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Irrational Games/What is Icarus (http://www.whatisicarus.com/)

Official Forums (http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/)

Announcements from Ken (http://irrationalgames.com/insider/announcement-from-ken-levine/)

Ten things you should know about Bioshock Infinite (http://irrationalgames.com/tag/ten-things-you-should-know/)

Irrational Behavior podcasts (http://irrationalgames.com/insider/irrational-behavior)

Gameplay demo discussion thread (http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/bioshock-infinite-general-discussion/interesting-points-in-the-gameplay-demo)

Video Links
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Gameplay Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fDEA0BFSM&feature=player_embedded)

Debut Trailer HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/debut-trailer-bioshock-infinite/702795)

Debut Trailer (http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/30814)

"Top Sites" Main Bioshock Infinite Pages
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IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/142/14258637.html)

G4 (http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/64411/bioshock-infinite/index/)

Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/bioshockinfinite/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B0)

Gameinformer (http://gameinformer.com/search/searchresults.aspx?q=Bioshock%20Infinite)

Bioshock Infinite wiki (http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Infinite)



Articles/Press/Etc.
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Game Informer - October (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/04/October9981-Cover9981-Revealed9918.aspx)

IGN Announcement (http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1111864p1.html)

Cnet Announcement (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20013473-1.html)

Kokatu (http://kotaku.com/5607451/bioshock-infinite-goes-beyond-the-sea--into-the-skies)

Audio Interview with Ken Levine. (http://bigoanddukes.com/2010/08/30/an-interview-with-ken-levine-creative-director-of-irrational-games/)

Aug

IGN preview (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1111981p1.html)
Joystiq interview (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/video-interview-ken-levine-on-bioshock-infinite/)
Gamespot preview (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/bioshockinfinite/news.html?sid=6273282&om_act=convert&om_clk=gsupdates&tag=updates;title;8&mode=previews)
Eurogamer Interview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-12-irrationals-ken-levine-interview?page=1)
Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite reveal trailers side by side (http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/64411/bioshock-infinite/index/)
Bioshock Infinite: Story and Concepts Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVIsZyPbKfc&feature=related)
Gamescom Interview (http://gamescom.gamespot.com/video/6273977/)
Building the World of Bioshock Infinite (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1112232p1.html)
GTTV Episode (http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/101)
Beauty of Games interview with Shawn Robertson (http://www.beautyofgames.com/articles/news/64-design/194-gamescom-2010-bioshock-infinite-interview)
Gaming Union Interview (http://www.gamingunion.net/news/gamescom-bioshock-infinite-interview--2562.html)
Ken Levine interview with Chad Dukes (http://c1.libsyn.com/media/20106/KenLevine.mp3?nvb=20101007073533&nva=20101008074533&sid=8406674d59cb1)

Sept
1up Interview with Ken (http://www.1up.com/news/irrational-prototype-ideas-living-2k)
G4TV B:I All Access Preview (http://g4tv.com/videos/48230/BioShock-Infinite-Gamescom-2010-Interview/#video-48506)
Now Gamer interview with Timothy Gerritsen (http://www.nowgamer.com/features/911/bioshock-infinite-tim-gerritsen-interview)
Atomic Gamer interview (http://www.atomicgamer.com/articles/1114/bioshock-infinite-interview)
Finding an Art Style (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/21/bioshock-infinite-finding-an-art-style.aspx)
44 minute interview with Ken Levine (http://www.giantbomb.com/we-talk-to-ken-levine-about-bioshock-infinite/17-3261/)
Gameinformer interview part one (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/24/interview-with-ken-levine-part-one.aspx)
Gameinformer interview part two (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/28/interview-with-ken-levine-part-two.aspx)
IGN's Video Preview (http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/09/25/bioshock-infinite-video-preview)

[october_midnight]

Gonna be awesome...that's all I'll say for now.

[Tiggychunk]

It is Irrational games we are talking about. Going to be "off the chain".

[october_midnight]

Here's a page with a lot of info on it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20013473-1.html

[neveryone]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Daidoji_Tangen]

So, is this Bioshock 3 or a spin-off? It sounds like a spin-off to me. Which sounds great to me. There's plenty of room for both Rapture and Columbia in my eyes.

EDIT: Go with the cnet article. I tried the 1up video and it wouldn't work for me.

[Frozzy]

the trailer looks amazing so many questions like how this new floating city ties in to rapture and the new robotic big daddy type characters makes me excited for the game now:p

[FtRapture]

The question still remains.... What is icarus, or does it have nothing to do with the game at all.

[Codex]

It's a "pre-quel" spin off. It sounds fantastic.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1111864p1.html

[FeIonious]

I couldn't be more happy with Irrational's new project. I wonder if it has any ties at all to the first two Bioshock games. It is set in 1912 so before them. Its almost like their using the Bioshock name like Final Fantasy does has done with its games, whole new setting/characters a game with the name defining the type of experience which is too be played.

[Daidoji_Tangen]

The question still remains.... What is icarus, or does it have nothing to do with the game at all.

My guess: Reference to the sky. Maybe to the moral about going farther than you should.


I couldn't be more happy with Irrational's new project. I wonder if it has any ties at all to the first two Bioshock games. It is set in 1912 so before them. Its almost like their using the Bioshock name like Final Fantasy does has done with its games, whole new setting/characters a game with the name defining the type of experience which is too be played.

I am hoping it takes place in an unified universe unlike the FF games. Though it would make sense of how Ryan got the idea and convinced other people to follow him to the ocean. After all, there already was a city in the clouds.

[FtRapture]

It's a "pre-quel" spin off. It sounds fantastic.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1111864p1.html

Wow after reading this, any notions of it not being amazing went away. They know what they are doing.

[rAdam]

So, same Universe, connected story lines? I mean, I'll be plunking down 60 dollars regardless. : )

[roxanne]

From the trailer to reading the synopsis, this game looks and sounds fantastic. I'm saddened it won't be out until 2012, but I know they had to rebuild everything. I've absolutely loved the first two and this can only make the series as a whole better.

Can't wait!

[EliteRosie]

So Columbia was built before Rapture right? cause I'm a little confused here.

Even though I'm still a little confused I can still say that it looks like its going to be epic. I like the cyborgs but I'm gonna miss seeing big daddies with giant drills impale splicers. . . oh well I'll move on. I am gonna enjoy fighting the cyborgs though like the one from the trailer "Boom Heartshot" lol.

[Mr.Plum]

2012! 5 Years of development time? Wow this should be a really polished game then...

[DrS]

I think the move out of Rapture and into this enigmatic city in the sky will be a welcome change to the series! I guess the only person not excited about this must be Jordan Thomas. It's almost like they're saying "Hmm, we didn't quite like what you did in Bioshock 2, so we're scrapping the numbers and going in a completely different direction that's going to be bigger and better!"

[IllusionOfLife]

It's a "pre-quel" spin off.

I missed where they specifically said it was a prequel :confused: To me all signs (aside from the title) seem to point to 'spiritual successor,' not something that is directly tied into the same cannon.

[McGee]

Are they going to change the title, because Bioshock Infinte sounds very, luke warm.:(

[880cloud088]

Ok dont hate me but this game would be an amazing multiplayer experience. I know I know it would take time away from the story but if it comes out 2012 that would be an entire 5 YEARS! Besides its not like it the end of the world. (Pun Intended)

[General Goose]

Hmm.

My interest is at its maximum. I am looking forward to this. Looking forward to this a lot.

[880cloud088]

Are they going to change the title, because Bioshock Infinte sounds very, luke warm.:(

Yea Bioshock 1912 would be much more epic or Bioshock Rescue. Infinite is just... IDK ☺☺☺☺☺ish?

[FtRapture]

Yea Bioshock 1912 would be much more epic ?

I like that.. Bioshock 1912 sounds perfect.

[IllusionOfLife]

I like that.. Bioshock 1912 sounds perfect.

It'd also be more clear that it is set in a different time, you know, in case we do get a proper BioShock 3, customers might be a bit confused by two BioShock games on the shelf.

[Mr.Plum]

When I first saw Bioshock infinite, I thought it was the Bioshock MMO, being infinite and all. Thank god I was wrong.

[Homersimpson11]

I dont want 2 move away from Rapture (love that place :)
but this spin-off looks set to offer everything us die-hard Bioshock fans love so really lookin forward for more info on this.

[McGee]

When I first saw Bioshock infinite, I thought it was the Bioshock MMO, being infinite and all. Thank god I was wrong.

At least we finally get the real sequel to Bioshock.

No offence to 2K Marin, but Bioshock 2 just wasn't Bioshock.

It's obvious that Rapture is not something that you can keep returning back to. Had this concept years ago, a city in the sky. Can't say it's really orginal, but regardless, Ken Levine is working on this game, and it's Irrational. What game have they ever made that has sucked? ;) ;)

[DrS]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but if you have a look at this link:
http://kotaku.com/5607451/bioshock-infinite-goes-beyond-the-sea--into-the-skies and scroll down to the bottom the editor's made a pretty cool video of the collectables given to reporters who attended the unveiling event.

[FtRapture]

I am very intrigued by this man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/kjdaniel/8-12-201011-49-13AM.jpg

I know everyone is saying no Ryan but hmmm.

Also when the lady is luring you in there is some whispering anyone know what she is saying.

[X1 BLACKOUT 1X]

I'm not sure how I feel about this one

[BeatlesGeorge]

Omg This Is The Best News

[Stromberg]

I am very intrigued by this man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/kjdaniel/8-12-201011-49-13AM.jpg

I know everyone is saying no Ryan but hmmm.



That's Stall, right?

[McGee]

I'm not sure how I feel about this one

Yeah, same.

The concept is really interesting, but the whole period, and history behind it seems very meh to me.

I don't know. Need to see more.

[Doctor Tivilon]

I am very intrigued by this man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/kjdaniel/8-12-201011-49-13AM.jpg



A "Sander Cohen" of the skies, maybe?

[DrS]

I am very intrigued by this man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/kjdaniel/8-12-201011-49-13AM.jpg

I know everyone is saying no Ryan but hmmm.

Also when the lady is luring you in there is some whispering anyone know what she is saying.

I am intrigued too, however in 1912 Andrei Rianofski would still have been in Russia....

I'd be over the moon if they released footage from this 10 minute demo that all the websites seem to talk about. I know the CGI trailer looks incredible, but a look at some actual gameplay would be great.

[ancient]

The question still remains.... What is icarus, or does it have nothing to do with the game at all.

Icarus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus) is an ancient Greek mythological figure who attempted to fly into the sun (and died)

I think Icarus is simply a symbol, capturing the essence of this game - Bioshock in the skies.

[Grathius22]

Meh... I think I'll come 'round, now that I saw the whole trailer.

[BeatlesGeorge]

Andrew Ryan will be in it right? he better be
So far i see no connection to the bioshock series

[Brass Balls]

HAHAHA what the ****? I did NOT expect this. I dunno what to think...I'm leaning towards awesome. I kinda wish it wasn't called Bioshock (unless it directly ties into the game's plot, which doesn't seem likely) but another "shock" game...Skyshock? Ok maybe not.

[biolock]

Looks absolutely nothing like Bioshock. GIVE ME A PREQUEL DAMNIT.

[Grathius22]

Looks absolutely nothing like Bioshock. GIVE ME A PREQUEL DAMNIT.

I'd say Ryan got the idea of Rapture from Columbia (The sky city.).

[IllusionOfLife]

Andrew Ryan will be in it right? he better be
So far i see no connection to the bioshock series

Not if they want to honor the cannon. Andrew Ryan was still in Russia at the time of the game.

[BeatlesGeorge]

This trailer brings us nothing but questions =/

[Grathius22]

Not if they want to honor the cannon. Andrew Ryan was still in Russia at the time of the game.

Ooh. Maybe Ryan knew some one in Columbia? Or... he had something to do with it. Maybe... that's where he went, and he considered it America...

Because it seems to be owned by Americans...

Americans or Brits.

[Invader]

They already said THERE IS NO TIE BETWEEN RAPTURE AND COLUMBIA! They're seperate. They're just reusing the name, like they did to XCOM...

[Brass Balls]

If this is related to the Bioshock universe canonically...then I don't think Ken Levine quite got what people meant by wanting a prequel :P. The more I read about this the more awesome it seems.

[FtRapture]

I like the idea that if you use Elizabeth's powers she could die. Adds a nice twist/balance aspect to the game.

[Invader]

If this is related to the Bioshock universe canonically...then I don't think Ken Levine quite got what people meant by wanting a prequel :P. The more I read about this the more awesome it seems.

IT IS NOT RELATED! >_>

[Engy-welder]

Wow this...is...terrible. The Bioshock series I know and love is officially gone. Now they replace is with...this...thing :(

[Cerobec]

I'm a bit meh about this one..
I mean.. I LOVE BioShock 1 and 2..

But this game seems to be nothing to have in common with the series..
It's like.. ''Oh yeah! there's also this city in the sky!''.
And that the name holds the word BioShock in it.. meh..

I know I sound negative, this could be a very good game, which I actually KNOW just because Ken Levine and Irrational Games are working on it..
But I find this a bit of a ridiculous twist if it HAS anything to to with BioShock.


Maybe I just have to see more of this game..

*puts on flame-shield* (sorry guys:()

Edit: If it is TRUE that they're just re-using the name (which I still find lame..) and it's COMPLETELY new and not connected to BioShock at all.. it could work out really good.

[tommyh84]

Wonder if this is the big daddy in the trailer...

http://i35.tinypic.com/zsjptx.jpg

http://irrationalgames.com/insider/goodies/

[SyntaxError]

Oh......My......God!


But I can't help but think WTF!?!?

[Stromberg]

Wonder if this is the big daddy in the trailer...

http://i35.tinypic.com/zsjptx.jpg

http://irrationalgames.com/insider/goodies/

Possibly. I thought the head would be more human though.

[BeatlesGeorge]

I really hope there aren't robots
one thing i love about the big daddys were the fact that they are humans

But this is probably the only way a prequel could work

[Invader]

Now, this looks like a serious spin-off. I doubt they've abandoned Rapture, but... just that this bears the BioShock name... and why "Infinite"?

[rAdam]

I understand. Seems fairly obvious this is in the same Universe, but will draw no direct relations to Rapture. It still looks solid.

The next Bioshock will be underground, in a giant ant farm.

[Invader]

It won't be the same universe. They already said it's completely new, no Rapture involved! DX

[Stromberg]

I really hope there aren't robots
one thing i love about the big daddys were the fact that they are humans


They're humanoid robots, from what has been explained.

[Ad4pt3r]

I'm one great fan of Bioshock series...The games were so emotional and deep that I almost cried.
Guys at Irrational Games, God bless You....You gave me the best gift.

[jlinky]

City falls into ocean at the end, claimed by Andrew Ryan as Rapture?

[Art_Industry_Science]

So, is this Bioshock 3 or a spin-off? It sounds like a spin-off to me. Which sounds great to me. There's plenty of room for both Rapture and Columbia in my eyes.


Definitely. I was a little apprehensive when seeing that the possible "BioShock 3" would be set in the sky...but it does seem like a spin off. As long as Rapture's story isn't done, I would love to have two different BioShock titles to keep me occupied!...I just love Rapture too much to say goodbye, plus I'm still left with questions when it comes to Rapture lol. But Infinite looks awesome! and i'll definitely buy it. I just hope this isn't the new permanent setting for future Bioshock releases.

[rAdam]

It won't be the same universe. They already said it's completely new, no Rapture involved! DX

Could still be in the same Universe but have no connection to Rapture, right? Levine has not explicitly said either way has he?... it seems as if he's avoiding answering that question, which would lead me to believe it's in the same Universe but won't be in anyway connected to Ryan's adventure.

[Art_Industry_Science]

City falls into ocean at the end, claimed by Andrew Ryan as Rapture?

ooh. That's a good theory!! I could TOTALLY see that!

[tommyh84]

I really want one of those crows flasks :D

http://kotaku.com/5607451/bioshock-infinite-goes-beyond-the-sea--into-the-skies

[SarshelYam]

Wonder if this is the big daddy in the trailer...

http://i35.tinypic.com/zsjptx.jpg

http://irrationalgames.com/insider/goodies/

Isn't that Man-Bot from Freedom Force?

[Grathius22]

Isn't that Man-Bot from Freedom Force?

It is, indeed.

[Seasick]

Woah....I was only pissed because I thought it was passing off as Bioshock 3. Now that I know it's just a spin-off, I have no need to worry. After all, it might be good.

[Brass Balls]

My only problem with this is...the scenery doesn't seem like it'd lend itself to horror AT ALL. I feel like the horror element of the series could be completely abandoned with this title. But y'know, EXTREMELY early days and probably ridiculous to assume such a thing, but yeah.

[Stromberg]

Daddy, what did you do during the Siege of Columbia?


Wonder if this takes place before or during the game.

[SarshelYam]

My only problem with this is...the scenery doesn't seem like it'd lend itself to horror AT ALL. I feel like the horror element of the series could be completely abandoned with this title. But y'know, EXTREMELY early days and probably ridiculous to assume such a thing, but yeah.

But you're in the sky. The terror is all around you...airborn attack, natural occurrence like violent weather, completely out of the players hands. The sheer terror of free-falling to your death (denoted in that trailer) had my heart racing.:eek:

[BeatlesGeorge]

My only problem with this is...the scenery doesn't seem like it'd lend itself to horror AT ALL. I feel like the horror element of the series could be completely abandoned with this title. But y'know, EXTREMELY early days and probably ridiculous to assume such a thing, but yeah.

I agree
it really looks like a different game

[Brass Balls]

But you're in the sky. The terror is all around you...airborn attack, natural occurrence like violent weather, completely out of the players hands. The sheer terror of free-falling to your death (denoted in that trailer) had my heart racing.:eek:

Yes...but all of those things seem like action oriented thrills rather than atmospheric horror.

[Stromberg]

But you're in the sky. The terror is all around you...airborn attack, natural occurrence like violent weather, completely out of the players hands. The sheer terror of free-falling to your death (denoted in that trailer) had my heart racing.:eek:

I think that people mean a creepy-scary vibe. I guess the robots could be 'scary'. Maybe there will be some mutated virus outbreak. Or like you said, weather. Hurricane maybe?

[Invader]

Well... I'd bet good money that this is just a spin-off. If I'm right, I'm a happy camper. I still have my doubts, thought. Check the BioShock Off-Topic section.


Also, it's impossible that Ryan claimed Columbia as his own after it maybe fell into the ocean.


HERE IS WHY:

-Columbia windows are NOT strong enough to handle the bottom of the ocean

-Check out the exhibits in Ryan Amusements, depicting Ryan BUILDING Rapture.

-Ryan created a fake company, Warden Yarn, that he used to buy the material to build Rapture with.

-Columbia's archetecture is completely different that Rapture's.

-The list goes on.

[Art_Industry_Science]

Yes...but all of those things seem like action oriented thrills rather than atmospheric horror.

I'm sure it'll be plenty creepy. Ken Levine knows what he's doing

[Xardas]

I'm really looking forward to this. From the screens, kind of reminds me of the steam-punk genre for some reason which I've always loved. As for the name, Bioshock just means a biological shock, and it seems as though the protagonist will be able to use some type of plasmids, so it still fits. :p

[Grathius22]

I think that people mean a creepy-scary vibe. I guess the robots could be 'scary'. Maybe there will be some mutated virus outbreak. Or like you said, weather. Hurricane maybe?

I think it might go H.P Lovecraft and end up in involvement with a cult.

[rAdam]

It doesn't HAVE to be scary. As long as the story is well written and the game play is fresh, but still built on a their solid foundation, it'll be a blast to play.

[Cerobec]

I'm completely fine with the concept and it sure looks very promising!

But the name BioShock Infinite really bugs me..

It shouldn't be in the BioShock universe.. It just doesn't seem right.

[Stromberg]

I think it might go H.P Lovecraft and end up in involvement with a cult.

Yeah, that sounds plausible too.

[Invader]

I think it might go H.P Lovecraft and end up in involvement with a cult.


Yep. The Columbia Family. :p

[Angel Mr B]

On a second thought this isn´t Rapture. Actually, i don´t know what to think about it!? /Johan

[McGee]

I'm completely fine with the concept and it sure looks very promising!

But the name BioShock Infinite really bugs me..

It shouldn't be in the BioShock universe.. It just doesn't seem right.

I agree..It sounds...cheap.

How about something that doesn't with shock.

Like "Blue Sky", or simply Sky.

[magicman4443]

Well, my day has just been made. Thoughts of bringing Bioshock to the sky have always been tossed around, but I think Irrational can really pull this off. It's has a definite Bioshock feel, but it seems to turn it arond and re-define the setting as well. I think this is really going to turn out great.

[IllusionOfLife]

Here's a new article from GamesRadar, it also addresses a little bit of the unsettling atmosphere that the other articles glossed over:

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/bioshock-infinite/preview/bioshock-infinite-irrational-games-trades-the-sea-for-the-sky/a-20100812105637405067/g-20100812105534267003

[Mr.Plum]

I agree..It sounds...cheap.

How about something that doesn't with shock.

Like "Blue Sky", or simply Sky.

I'm honestly not that concerned about the name right now. I'm sure "infinite" will make a whole lot of sense later down the line. I'm just happy Levine is working on a Bioshock title.

[Invader]

Madea new thread about it, before i saw this thread! I will take it away. I was stunned when i read about it. It has to do with Bioshock somehow because the name. Maybe Andrew Ryan builted a City in the sky so you can go there from Rapture like in a nother dimension or something. They managed to invent plasmids and ADAM, maybe good old Ryan invented a way to build a city in the sky as well? I hope this game will be good! /Johan

No, Columbia was built as a travelling World's Fair, and it has American flags ALL OVER IT. Ryan has NOTHING to do with Columbia. When Columbia was still afloat, Ryan (or, at the time, Rianofski) was still in Russia.

[Stromberg]

Here's a new article from GamesRadar, it also addresses a little bit of the unsettling atmosphere that the other articles glossed over:

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/bioshock-infinite/preview/bioshock-infinite-irrational-games-trades-the-sea-for-the-sky/a-20100812105637405067/g-20100812105534267003

This article definitely points out some unsettling scenes that haven't been mentioned.

It sounds like the political city from hell.

[yazter]

I always imagined a futuristic Rapture in SPACE.

Anyhow, not sure how I feel about this. But time will tell

One thing for sure - if it has multiplayer, I am *SO* skipping.

[Art_Industry_Science]

I agree..It sounds...cheap.

How about something that doesn't with shock.

Like "Blue Sky", or simply Sky.

The trailer LOOKS like Bioshock, and HAS that feel we've come to expect in a Bioshock game. They're probably more than likely NOT gonna abandon Rapture. and for all we know this story may tie in to BS 1 and 2. Who knows? none of us know. so we shouldn't complain of what we don't know. So what if it's set in the sky? We all know it's a prequel already. I anticipate Bioshock 3 to tie in to the events that happen in Infinite as well as the first two games. But that's just me. We'll all play it, and we'll all love it. It's Irrational Games for pete's sake

[ArmorForVictory]

to relay what i said in another thread i love the new setting for this i want to say a prequel re-imagination to rapture columbia looks like a total opposite to rapture which i love i know we all want rapture, but really is this looking that bad to some of you? when i first saw the trailer the robot enemy throwing you out the window to reveal your in the air i had such a huge grin on my face i mean the style of the game looks fantastic i seriously cannot wait till 2012

[yazter]

Here's hoping this one DOESN'T have multiplayer.

[Stromberg]

We get a taste of this as DeWitt strolls by an almost catatonic man dragging a newspaper cart with a missing wheel.

a woman sweeps the porch of a flame-engulfed grocery store, seemingly oblivious to the blinding blaze nipping at her backside; black crows compete with flies to feast on a horse carcass; and, taking the prize for most disturbing scene in Columbia, a crazed politician preaches to absolutely no one in a town square.

Surrounded by barrels of guns, this Uncle Sam-looking madman encourages us to take up arms against foreigners right before he flashes in and out of some strange blink-and-you’ll-miss-it transformation, identifies DeWitt as an enemy, brandishes a hook, and uses said hand claw to flee via Columbia’s zip line-like rail system.

Psychos. Something is going on in Columbia.

[Docmeff]

So...uh...do you think Mark Meltzer will be in this one? Like a kid at the World's Fair who gets to ride in a hot-air balloon to Columbia?






(Kidding)

[Codex]

Sorry guys, but I am loving this thing. The trailer feels Bioshock, the odd mix of "beautiful" and "dangerous" along with "calm" and "terrifying" is already peeking my interest... And the possibility that the two "prongs" of the Bioshock universe could collide into something in the future to create an "Awesomeshock" game and essentially divide by zero?

Yeah, I'm a bioshock fan girl, so sue me, but if Rapture failed and Columbia fell... well, think of the possibilities for future commingling of the plot lines. I think that "Bioshock" is to do with the abilities that are presented, not with the cities, but if the mythos can be expanded to two (or more) cities that then "exist" within the same universe I say bring it on.

[RaptureRaven]

I knew I was going to be eaten by birds.


I may gripe about this(Bioshock in the sky??) or complain about that(the sky? Really?), but I really am intrigued. Have I mentioned 2010 is a really long time away?

[JustJasper]

My first gut reaction was "no no no!" because I fell in love with Rapture so hard, but considering there's very little possibly that Infinite will ignore Rapture, and the story is likely to have ties and further develop the BioShock universe, I'm just going to wait for more information and insight. Also, gut reaction is underpinned by the fear they won't return to the Rapture story. We'll have to see.

[IllusionOfLife]

Here's an explanation about BioShock Infinite from Ken Levine:

http://irrationalgames.com/insider/announcement-from-ken-levine/

He calls it a sequel, but if you really pay attention to what he's saying it's really just, as I thought, a spiritual successor. It's taking the ideas that are core to BioShock and bringing them to a new setting and a whole new universe.

I like what I'm seeing so far with the game, but I'm a little annoyed with Levine right now. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but it seemed to me that Levine was saying, "well, the guys at Marin were a bunch of misguided idiots by going back to Rapture, so we're going to make a proper sequel to BioShock." To me it seems like the inclusion of BioShock in the title is a decision influenced by arrogance, more than by creativity.

[Invader]

Hmmm.... that review that was linked to in the last page of this thread... it gave me a tinge of excitement and anticipation! :eek: I just hope they keep Rapture going, alongside Columbia...

[Ureh]

This is breathtaking. :eek:

I agree with Codex. All these years most of us thought BioShock could only take place in Rapture. But if Irrational pulls this off it proves that BioShock can be much more than that.

[magicman4443]

I like what I'm seeing so far with the game, but I'm a little annoyed with Levine right now. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but it seemed to me that Levine was saying, "well, the guys at Marin were a bunch of misguided idiots by going back to Rapture, so we're going to make a proper sequel to BioShock." To me it seems like the inclusion of BioShock in the title is a decision influenced by arrogance, more than by creativity.

I have to agree with that sentiment. When I read Ken's message, I almost get the feeling that he's saying 2K Marin didn't do a very good job, and we're going to make a real sequel. They just stole our idea, and made more of the same. We're going somewhere new. Somewhere better. Somewhere above everything made before it. (Pun intended :p )

[Sinclair Saucer]

I too agree with Codex...as long as this is a universe outside of Rapture then I will love it to death...now who will be my Sinclair in this....

[rAdam]

Here's an explanation about BioShock Infinite from Ken Levine:

http://irrationalgames.com/insider/announcement-from-ken-levine/

He calls it a sequel, but if you really pay attention to what he's saying it's really just, as I thought, a spiritual successor. It's taking the ideas that are core to BioShock and bringing them to a new setting and a whole new universe.

I like what I'm seeing so far with the game, but I'm a little annoyed with Levine right now. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but it seemed to me that Levine was saying, "well, the guys at Marin were a bunch of misguided idiots by going back to Rapture, so we're going to make a proper sequel to BioShock." To me it seems like the inclusion of BioShock in the title is a decision influenced by arrogance, more than by creativity.

The way you say that it seems as if Levine and Co didn't start work on Infinite until after they saw BS2. Surely that is not the case. 2K wanted them to go back to Rapture, Irrational did not, so they gave Rapture duties to 2k. They've known for a LONG time they were making a spiritual successor, I mean Bioshock was just a spiritual successor of system shock, but then again...the name did change...I digress. I don't think this title means they were unhappy w/ BS2.

[JustJasper]

I think any of the dev teams would be foolish to abandon Rapture completely, considering it's huge potential (have had long conversations about what they could do with the concept of "little brothers" in a further BioShock/Rapture title), and the regard Rapture is held in by fans.

[AK Downfall]

hmm i wonder if this is the prequel everyone wanted since of course set in 1912.

[IllusionOfLife]

The way you say that it seems as if Levine and Co didn't start work on Infinite until after they saw BS2. Surely that is not the case. 2K wanted them to go back to Rapture, Irrational did not, so they gave Rapture duties to 2k. They've known for a LONG time they were making a spiritual successor, I mean Bioshock was just a spiritual successor of system shock, but then again...the name did change...I digress. I don't think this title means they were unhappy w/ BS2.

Well obviously the've been working on this for much longer than that, but that's the tone I got from Levine's blog post. Besides, the name is a new development, because it had, until now, just been referred to by its codename: Project Icarus.

[AK Downfall]

Well obviously the've been working on this for much longer than that, but that's the tone I got from Levine's blog post. Besides, the name is a new development, because it had, until now, just been referred to by its codename: Project Icarus.
hmm im starting to think Irrational didnt want to make bio2 so they can focus on bioshock infinate.

[Invader]

hmm i wonder if this is the prequel everyone wanted since of course set in 1912.


I'm pretty sure when people said "prequel", they were talking about DURING the Civil War...

[SyntaxError]

"When we completed the original BioShock, we felt we had said all we wanted to say with Rapture"

This quote pisses me off for some reason.

[Invader]

"When we completed the original BioShock, we felt we had said all we wanted to say with Rapture"

This quote pisses me off for some reason.

Same here. 2K MARIN TO TEH RESCUE! :D

[rAdam]

"When we completed the original BioShock, we felt we had said all we wanted to say with Rapture"

This quote pisses me off for some reason.

It's because it basically drives the last nail into the coffin of a IG produced Bioshock sequel set in Rapture.

[Blade_Runner]

they're expanding the Bioshock universe, this brings on a whole new potential

[IllusionOfLife]

"When we completed the original BioShock, we felt we had said all we wanted to say with Rapture"

This quote pisses me off for some reason.

See my post at the bottom of the last page ;)

EDIT: Er- make that two pages ago.

[AK Downfall]

I'm pretty sure when people said "prequel", they were talking about DURING the Civil War...
either way. But this game makes me feel like irrational wanted to make a city in the sky that represented heaven and Rapture represent hell.

[biolock]

If Irrational Games really were creative then they would find a way to make a sequel work in Rapture.

[SyntaxError]

See my post at the bottom of the last page ;)

EDIT: Er- make that two pages ago.Yeah I saw your post Illusion but I thought I would chip in myself.;)

[Blade_Runner]

If IR really were creative then they would find a way to make a sequel work in Rapture.

yeah, there's still potential in Rapture

[TAK The Voyager]

I cannot wait for this! I gotta see gameplay. Sure, I loved BioShock 1 & 2 to death, but this is just opening up a whole new world for BioShock. :D The story sounds interesting, can't wait to see the other enemies.

TAK

[Tycho.]

I really hope IG has some part in BS3


And maybe they well give them enough time to make it good...

[Adam Addict L]

I We're going somewhere new. Somewhere better. Somewhere above everything made before it. (Pun intended :p )

Somewhere Beyond the Sky(Sea) lol

[Docmeff]

"When we completed the original BioShock, we felt we had said all we wanted to say with Rapture"

This quote pisses me off for some reason.

It didn't piss me off, but it did provide insight into why Levine left 2K and re-started Irrational.

The big wigs at 2K were so impressed with the Blockbuster status of Bioshock that they probably pressured Levine and his design team to continue the formula. Levine probably said that the story of Rapture had been told and he wanted to go to a new location. They didn't agree and they both civilly agreed to divide and conquer. 2K Marin handled BS2 while Ken quietly developed the story for Infinite. It makes you wonder how much the 2K crew knew about this. Afterall it has been going on for three years already. 5 year production time...that's pretty long. This game must be huge.

I wonder if Elizabeth Tobey will be contracted out for "Somethinginthesky.com." :D

[yazter]

Please, 2K, no MP..

[Tremula Metacarpi]

It didn't piss me off, but it did provide insight into why Levine left 2K and re-started Irrational.

The big wigs at 2K were so impressed with the Blockbuster status of Bioshock that they probably pressured Levine and his design team to continue the formula. Levine probably said that the story of Rapture had been told and he wanted to go to a new location. They didn't agree and they both civilly agreed to divide and conquer. 2K Marin handled BS2 while Ken quietly developed the story for Infinite. It makes you wonder how much the 2K crew knew about this. Afterall it has been going on for three years already. 5 year production time...that's pretty long. This game must be huge.


My thoughts exactly.

[IllusionOfLife]

If Irrational Games really were creative then they would find a way to make a sequel work in Rapture.

To be clear, I'm loving the idea of the game so far. I think it looks brilliant and I'm really excited. I think that Irrational will likely have another landmark game on their hands. The only thing I take issue with is the arrogance that seemingly went into the decision to call it 'BioShock.'

This is a spiritual successor so they could have, and probably should have called it something else, however the statement Ken Levine made gives the impression that they're calling it BioShock because they feel they're giving the game the followup it deserves, essentially calling BioShock 2 a failure.

[Adam Addict L]

Oooo-k,after ACTUALLY just getting(even though I just made a post,I've just been skimming and haven't read all the details,so I just went back and looked over everything) caught up,and I must say,that although while I do admit that this game looks awesome and looks like something I would purchase and play....I wish it did NOT have the name ''Bioshock'' attached to it :( Although the trailer gave a Bioshock feel...to me a city in the sky is not Bioshock...again,it looks like a great game...I just do not agree with the title...especially since the trailer,which was eerily similiar to the Bioshock 1trailer where Jack gets drilled by the Big Daddy(more closer to that one I think than the one where he's falling and looking down on the city while ''Beyond the Sea'' plays). I mean,the trailer did not even have the main character utulizing usage of any ''plasmid'' while in both Bioshock 1 trailers,we saw Jack use 2 plasmids(Insect Swarm in one trailer,and Winter Blast in the other trailer). :(

In short....Yes want game,No do not want title. Now,I'm gonna get flamed by them for this,I just know it....buuut...I'm going to come out and say...I now know SOMEWHAT how the XCOM people feel :( ...Somewhat being that,unlike some of the XCOM people,I don't feel this new ''Bioshock'' kills/destroys/ruins the original,I just feel like it should be called ''Skyshock'' or something.

And with that said,I sit and anticipatingly await the flames :rolleyes:


The only thing I take issue with is the arrogance that seemingly went into the decision to call it 'BioShock.'


Agreed,do not agree with the title...


essentially calling BioShock 2 a failure.

Bioshock 2 isn't/wasn't a failure though....or at least I don't think it was/is...

[rAdam]

Perhaps I'm far too morbid, but I hate announced release dates that are years off. What if I get killed or something in the meantime, not cool.

[Docmeff]

This is a spiritual successor so they could have, and probably should have called it something else, however the statement Ken Levine made gives the impression that they're calling it BioShock because they feel they're giving the game the followup it deserves, essentially calling BioShock 2 a failure.

I dunno...I'm not getting that Levine was calling Bioshock 2 anything. I read more into it that he had a totally different creative idea than 2K Marin had and decided to branch off and go with his creative instincts. The quote where Ken states that he thought they had told Rapture's story by the end of BS1 tells me that he didn't feel it was ever necessary to return to Rapture, despite how well made Bioshock 2 was.

I think that you just have two different creative thought processes: 2K Marin and Ken Levine. 2K listend to the "polls" and thought Rapture should be continued, but Ken thought Bioshock was the story all along and not Rapture.

It's fascinating...and frankly as fans we are getting best of both worlds now. How can anyone be upset by that?



In short....Yes want game,No do not want title. Now,I'm gonna get flamed by them for this,I just know it....buuut...I'm going to come out and say...I now know SOMEWHAT how the XCOM people feel :( ...Somewhat being that,unlike some of the XCOM people,I don't feel this new ''Bioshock'' kills/destroys/ruins the original,I just feel like it should be called ''Skyshock'' or something.

And with that said,I sit and anticipatingly await the flames :rolleyes:



I don't think you should get flamed for your valid opinion. I know what you are saying. I am not sure what the Bio part of Bioshock means, but I always attributed that to the reworking of the DNA through biological material like Adam. Therefore, it's possible that this sky city may have some biological reworking or at least manipulation. Something made that woman hover a cloud of roses to catch that guy. Something made that mechanical brute thing with a pumping heart in a fishbowl work. Maybe that's the bio part of it. I dunno.

I didn't attribute Bio as anything specific to do with the ocean. That's just the Rapture part for me. But maybe it's a matter of finding out more about this game that will satisfy you. I'm actually a little more irked by the "Infinite" part. I get that they mean the sky is infinite and Columbia is a big place...but it just seems a little awkward.

[Tycho.]

Oooo-k,after ACTUALLY just getting(even though I just made a post,I've just been skimming and haven't read all the details,so I just went back and looked over everything) caught up,and I must say,that although while I do admit that this game looks awesome and looks like something I would purchase and play....I wish it did NOT have the name ''Bioshock'' attached to it :( Although the trailer gave a Bioshock feel...to me a city in the sky is not Bioshock...again,it looks like a great game...I just do not agree with the title...especially since the trailer,which was eerily similiar to the Bioshock 1trailer where Jack gets drilled by the Big Daddy(more closer to that one I think than the one where he's falling and looking down on the city while ''Beyond the Sea'' plays). I mean,the trailer did not even have the main character utulizing usage of any ''plasmid'' while in both Bioshock 1 trailers,we saw Jack use 2 plasmids(Insect Swarm in one trailer,and Winter Blast in the other trailer). :(

In short....Yes want game,No do not want title. Now,I'm gonna get flamed by them for this,I just know it....buuut...I'm going to come out and say...I now know SOMEWHAT how the XCOM people feel :( ...Somewhat being that,unlike some of the XCOM people,I don't feel this new ''Bioshock'' kills/destroys/ruins the original,I just feel like it should be called ''Skyshock'' or something.

And with that said,I sit and anticipatingly await the flames :rolleyes:



Agreed,do not agree with the title...



Bioshock 2 isn't/wasn't a failure though....or at least I don't think it was/is...

Its wasnt as good as it could of been, they give them like two years to make something as good as bioshock 1, not gonna happen, and IG didnt make it.

[ManicSheep]

Well the game looks interesting and has potential but why on earth is it even linked bioshock?
If you’re going to make it in a completely different setting why not just make it its own game instead of trying to piggyback on the original bioshock?
Obviously I don't know enough about the game at this point to make solid judgments and this might change when more info is released but to me it looks like they’re just trying to leech of the bioshock fandom.
Bioshock = Rapture, If it’s not about or in rapture then there is no point in calling it bioshock.

[AK Downfall]

Well the game looks interesting and has potential but why on earth is it even linked bioshock?
If you’re going to make it in a completely different setting why not just make it its own game instead of trying to piggyback on the original bioshock?
Obviously I don't know enough about the game at this point to make solid judgments and this might change when more info is released but to me it looks like they’re just trying to leech of the bioshock fandom.
Bioshock = Rapture, If it’s not about or in rapture then there is no point in calling it bioshock.
im calling it Necroshock cause i dont like how Ken titled it with Bioshock.

[JustJasper]

Bioshock 2 isn't/wasn't a failure though....or at least I don't think it was/is...

I'm convinced that Bioshock 3 (by this I mean a return to Rapture) would make the series like Jurassic Park: first one was epicly awesome, second one wasn't as good (although Bioshock 2 was much better than JP2 when comparing them to their predecessors), and the third instalment will be top-notch.

[Mr.Plum]

I like what I'm seeing so far with the game, but I'm a little annoyed with Levine right now. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it, but it seemed to me that Levine was saying, "well, the guys at Marin were a bunch of misguided idiots by going back to Rapture, so we're going to make a proper sequel to BioShock." To me it seems like the inclusion of BioShock in the title is a decision influenced by arrogance, more than by creativity.

From the way he put it, he pretty much said Bioshock: Infinite is the true sequel to Bioshock. I mean infinite looks like a great game but what he said was uncalled for and completely unnecessary. Nowhere does he even recognize Bioshock 2 exists except in this derogatory excerpt.




It would have been easier for us to go back to the well. We could have taken the easy route. We could have simply done more of the same, but we would not have been true to ourselves as game developers. Making the original BioShock was hard. We challenged ourselves every step of the way, and we tossed aside many elements and ideas simply because they weren’t good enough.

That's pretty poor...

[Reiss]

No rapture </3

[Blade_Runner]

well its seems that Bioshock does not take place in a location but rather a situation. you have to ask "what is a bioshock?"

[biolock]

Why don't they put on a parachute and escape?

[SyntaxError]

It didn't piss me off, but it did provide insight into why Levine left 2K and re-started Irrational.

The big wigs at 2K were so impressed with the Blockbuster status of Bioshock that they probably pressured Levine and his design team to continue the formula. Levine probably said that the story of Rapture had been told and he wanted to go to a new location. They didn't agree and they both civilly agreed to divide and conquer. 2K Marin handled BS2 while Ken quietly developed the story for Infinite. It makes you wonder how much the 2K crew knew about this. Afterall it has been going on for three years already. 5 year production time...that's pretty long. This game must be huge.

I wonder if Elizabeth Tobey will be contracted out for "Somethinginthesky.com." :DLOL! When I heard about BioShock Infinite taking place in the sky I immediately typed "somethinginthesky" into my address bar. Sadly nothing to do with BioShock.:(

[Codex]

From the way he put it, he pretty much said Bioshock: Infinite is the true sequel to Bioshock. I mean infinite looks like a great game but what he said was uncalled for and completely unnecessary. Nowhere does he even recognize Bioshock 2 exists except in this derogatory excerpt.

I have to admit that was a little snippy of a comment. As a fan of BS2 and BS1 equally, I wonder what was going through his mind when he wrote that. Bad for, Mr. Levine.

[TAK The Voyager]

I'm convinced that Bioshock 3 (by this I mean a return to Rapture) would make the series like Jurassic Park: first one was epicly awesome, second one wasn't as good (although Bioshock 2 was much better than JP2 when comparing them to their predecessors), and the third instalment will be top-notch.

Wha? JP Fans thought the third was the worst...

TAK

[Ureh]

This is a spiritual successor so they could have, and probably should have called it something else, however the statement Ken Levine made gives the impression that they're calling it BioShock because they feel they're giving the game the followup it deserves, essentially calling BioShock 2 a failure.

Maybe it's not a spiritual successor (was it mentioned in an interview)? Maybe Levine (who created BioShock) is taking it where he originally intended? Perhaps we should just wait and hear... it's too early to make assumptions.

I think whenever we think of BioShock we associate with Rapture and the ocean. Maybe to Levine it was something more.

[JustJasper]

Wha? JP Fans thought the third was the worst...

TAK

Really? Really worse than taking the T-Rex to run rampant in whatever city it was?

</offtopic>

[Adam Addict L]

Perhaps I'm far too morbid, but I hate announced release dates that are years off. What if I get killed or something in the meantime, not cool.

I am sorry,I really,truly am...but I LOL'd slightly :o ...but I get your point,that IS a long way off for a video game,anything could happen between now and then...even the apocalypse(and yes,I'm serious.)

I'm convinced that Bioshock 3 (by this I mean a return to Rapture) would make the series like Jurassic Park: first one was epicly awesome, second one wasn't as good (although Bioshock 2 was much better than JP2 when comparing them to their predecessors), and the third instalment will be top-notch.

Agreed


From the way he put it, he pretty much said Bioshock: Infinite is the true sequel to Bioshock

That may be...but as an avid fan/lover of Bioshock 2,I won't be accepting this quote ''Bioshock'' unquote Infinite any kind of sequel anytime seoon :cool:


Really? Really worse than taking the T-Rex to run rampant in whatever city it was?

</offtopic>
Off-topic,but that was awesome :D

[Reborn in the Ocean]

This looks pretty interesting for a new Bioshock but at the same time I don't know how it will work out though I think I will probably get it.

[rAdam]

Why don't they put on a parachute and escape?

Good point. I'm sure they'll be tethered to its' environment in some way. Perhaps a reliance of certain tech or chem.

[JustJasper]

Good point. I'm sure they'll be tethered to its' environment in some way. Perhaps a reliance of certain tech or chem.

Or a lack of parachutes.

[TAK The Voyager]

Really? Really worse than taking the T-Rex to run rampant in whatever city it was?

</offtopic>

Yeah, but some people loved that part. Like myself.
But my opinion doesn't count since I loved all films equally.


Why don't they put on a parachute and escape?

XD

TAK

[SyntaxError]

I have to say that trailer was bloody well made! Sad about it donning the name BioShock though like everyone else:(

[rAdam]

Or a lack of parachutes.

Yeah, but it would be sort of silly to think one (parachute) couldn't be fashioned using the myriad of materials and technologies available in a giant floating city.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

I have to say that trailer was bloody well made! Sad about it donning the name BioShock though like everyone else:(

Yeah true they could have changed the name for it honestly but I guess calling it Bioshock Infinite could be better it could maybe be a precursor though I doubt it will be though we will have to see.

[AK Downfall]

Apart of me feels like wonder...how can anyone miss a floating city. Its easy to miss and underwater city but a floating city come on.

[TAK The Voyager]

I have to say that trailer was bloody well made! Sad about it donning the name BioShock though like everyone else:(

What? I don't see the big deal, I love that it's still "BioShock" in a wierd way. I like what Ken was getting at, that BioShock would be more then Rapture, a craptastic underwater utopia, with Andrew Ryan, Lamb, Big Daddies and Little Sisters.

I could stay with that formula forever. But I'm not going to turn away from something that looks just as interesting and amazing, even if it's not the same universe.

TAK

[Mr.Plum]

This is a spiritual successor so they could have, and probably should have called it something else, however the statement Ken Levine made gives the impression that they're calling it BioShock because they feel they're giving the game the followup it deserves, essentially calling BioShock 2 a failure.

It would've made a lot more sense to name it under a brand new IP, perhaps a new "shock" title. That said, I don't think including "Bioshock" in the title is out of revenge. A new name would've been appropriate but including "Bioshock" in the title improves and builds the entire brand. It's more of a marketing strategy than anything else.

[Blade_Runner]

i dont mind. i loved Bioshock 1 and 2 and Rapture but like i said before a "bioshock" sounds like a type of situation. a "bioshock" occured in Rapture and now there is a "bioshock" occuring in this sky city (i will call it Icarus)

[Reborn in the Ocean]

Yeah true ti does look pretty interesting and they can just make a precursor city that Andrew or something could have been inspired by besides of his hating everyone on the surface pretty much and this is a big American thing to lol :p.

[rAdam]

Apart of me feels like wonder...how can anyone miss a floating city. Its easy to miss and underwater city but a floating city come on.

Somewhere over the Ocean would be the only viable hiding spot. Anything over land would surely be spotted.

[Codex]

Maybe it's not a spiritual successor (was it mentioned in an interview)? Maybe Levine (who created BioShock) is taking it where he originally intended? Perhaps we should just wait and hear... it's too early to make assumptions.

I think whenever we think of BioShock we associate with Rapture and the ocean. Maybe to Levine it was something more.

I can see that, Ureh, but by denying the work that Marin did on BS2, even if it wasn't Levine's preferred vision, and essentially saying that "because I thought it sucked I'm going to create my own sequel..." I dunno. It seems a little unfair to me. I'm personally putting the comment from my mind and relying on the "BS:I's story takes place 30 years before Rapture even gets built" line for now. I feel it was a little unfair of him to just snub Marin's work, even if it wasn't where he wanted the series to go.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

Yeah true it was a bit unfair of Levine to do that to Marin but still I like the idea Dex that its Bioshock 1's story but it takes place 30 years before Rapture even gets built and all of that happens down there :p.

[Docmeff]

Apart of me feels like wonder...how can anyone miss a floating city. Its easy to miss and underwater city but a floating city come on.

It's meant to be seen. In the story, Columbia is meant to be a symbol of American ingenuity and construction. It was intentionally flown all over the world to "brag" about how great America is, etc.

It's not meant to be a secret.

[TAK The Voyager]

I'm just glad that this didn't turn out to be the MMO that was being rumored. I was afraid of that when I watched the trailer. :o

TAK

[Blade_Runner]

Yeah true it was a bit unfair of Levine to do that to Marin but still I like the idea Dex that its Bioshock 1's story but it takes place 30 years before Rapture even gets built and all of that happens down there :p.

i dont think Levine intended for Bioshock to have a direct sequel

[AK Downfall]

It's meant to be seen. In the story, Columbia is meant to be a symbol of American ingenuity and construction. It was intentionally flown all over the world to "brag" about how great America is, etc.

It's not meant to be a secret.
...now i hate this game. I liked how Rapture was in a way apart of real history and at the same time fictional but this....this isnt even have any true feel of what Rapture gave.

This game....no comment.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

I'm just glad that this didn't turn out to be the MMO that was being rumored. I was afraid of that when I watched the trailer. :o

TAK

I think if it was going to be a MMO they would have a bigger trailer and it would have like more words and it would have been a bit more descriptive though I doubt they would even go that far for Bioshock.

[Zest]

I'll say what I said before.




Rapture = BIOSHOCK.
HOW CAN YOU TAKE RAPTURE OUT OF BIOSHOCK?!

Also I just saw the trailer. NOT A BIG DADDY.
Ohhh, boy LOOK AT THAT! A big breasted leading female character THE MAIN CHARACTER MUST RESCUSE!
OOOHHHH SO CREATIVE!!1!

**** you, Irrational Games, for destroying the name of an AWESOME game. STOP TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY NOT BROKEN E___E;

[Judgeofwings]

I said it on facebook and i'll say it here,I don't like it.Columbia just doesn't carry the name Bioshock like Rapture did.It may be his Spiritual sucessor to Bioshock,but to me only Rapture=Bioshock. I have 2 years to warm up to this game,but i don't think i will.:(

[AK Downfall]

I'll say what I said before.




Rapture = BIOSHOCK.
HOW CAN YOU TAKE RAPTURE OUT OF BIOSHOCK?!

Also I just saw the trailer. NOT A BIG DADDY.
Ohhh, boy LOOK AT THAT! A big breasted leading female character THE MAIN CHARACTER MUST RESCUSE!
OOOHHHH SO CREATIVE!!1!

**** you, Irrational Games, for destroying the name of an AWESOME game. STOP TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY NOT BROKEN E___E;
that creature machine crushed the big daddy statue. :(

[Angel Mr B]

...now i hate this game. I liked how Rapture was in a way apart of real history and at the same time fictional but this....this isnt even have any true feel of what Rpautre gave.

This game....no comment.


Me too! Wha about the plasmids and tonics and the speciell feeling and gamestyle that is Rapture!. I seriously not want this game to be some sort of "Bioshock 3" And the American flags on the loggo! Rapture was free from God and was set apart from countrys on the surface of the world (so to speak) /Johan

[FtRapture]

I am not sure why people are acting like they will never see Rapture again, or this is the end of all we know and love. It is a departure sure, but not the end of the line for the series.

Take it for what it is. A new fun cool looking game.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

I said it on facebook and i'll say it here,I don't like it.Columbia just doesn't carry the name Bioshock like Rapture did.It may be his Spiritual sucessor to Bioshock,but to me only Rapture=Bioshock. I have 2 years to warm up to this game,but i don't think i will.:(

Well hopefully you will Judge and who knows over these next 2 years hopefully they flesh it out more and we get to see more so it grows and it will turn out to be really good that is what I am hoping for honestly :)

[goodgirlsgather01]

First off, i dont know if this is still being discussed, but there's no way Columbia fell from the sky and later became rapture. The buildings of rapture are art deco inspired. These buildings are from a time before art deco came around. (Art deco originated in the twenties) Secondly, the trailer shows that Columbia was built over farmland, not the ocean. Unless it just magically floats over to the ocean and decides to plop itself down on the bottom of the sea, i highly doubt this is rapture. And guys, this game takes place in America. Which is not even close to where rapture is positioned.
As for a connection between bioshock and bioshock infinite, I believe there has to be one, otherwise it would be named something completely different, right? Like x-com was.
The only guess i have is that there is a connection between this game and Ryan. I dont know what it would be though, considering ryan didnt even leave russia until 1919. Maybe he learned later about it? got inspired and thought he'd give it a go? I dont know. but i have a feeling that we wont know until we've all played this game. Something tells me theyve got something big planned for this game. Not to mention the graphics look awesome :)
Anyways, though its not exactly the prequel i had anticipated (really this caught me off guard, i yelled for about 10 minutes because it wasnt in rapture) i cant be 100% angry that this game isnt the same ol' game we're all used to and love. I give them credit for giving something new a go. I'll play Bioshock Infinite...

[Reborn in the Ocean]

that creature machine crushed the big daddy statue. :(

Don't worry AK there will be more of them they are mass producing them in Columbia and I agree FtRapture I am going to embrace this game as it looks pretty interesting and could well be worth my money.

[Docmeff]

...now i hate this game. I liked how Rapture was in a way apart of real history and at the same time fictional but this....this isnt even have any true feel of what Rapture gave.

This game....no comment.

Yikes..!

Well, if it makes you feel any better....Columbia disappears after it is being accused of travelling the globe like a giant democracy wielding weapon. It ascends into the clouds to never be heard from again for years...

...but very much like Rapture, there are a few escapees who know where Columbia is and harbor our protagonist, Booker Dewitt, to investigate and rescue Princess Peach (I mean Elizabeth) from the castle in the sky. But when Dewitt gets there he's realized that Columbia has turned into some sort of nightmarish city (a lot like Rapture) and things have gone horribly wrong.

It's Bioshock...in the sky. You really don't like this? I think it's really fascinating. It's the same boiler plate idea, just in the sky. Simple...yet complex. And it looks terrifying the way BS1 was!

[AK Downfall]

Don't worry AK there will be more of them they are mass producing them in Columbia and I agree FtRapture I am going to embrace this game as it looks pretty interesting and could well be worth my money.
....apart of me still hates what Jen did.

I;ll get the game play then go to my backyard to practice shooting at it....

Im pissed and you dont ever see that from me.

[Zest]

that creature machine crushed the big daddy statue. :(

It's an euphemism towards how horrible Irrational Games is destroying the iconic gaming figure I ONCE thought was so awesome :(

[SyntaxError]

...now i hate this game. I liked how Rapture was in a way apart of real history and at the same time fictional but this....this isnt even have any true feel of what Rapture gave.

This game....no comment.AK just keep saying to yourself this game takes place 30 years before BioShock 1 or hell just think it has nothing to do with BioShock at all. That's what im going with. Oh and Reborn I agree with you, the Infinite part kind of distances it self from BioShock in a way. Kinda makes it sounds like a reboot in a way if you get what I'm saying....

[Tycho.]

WOW


I know people have the right to their opinion, but Jesus Christ, some of you guys are completely over reacting.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

Yikes..!

Well, if it makes you feel any better....Columbia disappears after it is being accused of travelling the globe like a giant democracy wielding weapon. It ascends into the clouds to never be heard from again for years...

...but very much like Rapture, there are a few escapees who know where Columbia is and harbor our protagonist, Booker Dewitt, to investigate and rescue Princess Peach (I mean Elizabeth) from the castle in the sky. But when Dewitt gets there he's realized that Columbia has turned into some sort of nightmarish city (a lot like Rapture) and things have gone horribly wrong.

It's Bioshock...in the sky. You really don't like this? I think it's really fascinating. It's the same boiler plate idea, just in the sky. Simple...yet complex. And it looks terrifying the way BS1 was!

Yeah true I like it and it can hopefully be terrifying like the way Bioshock 1 was because that game did have its horror moments and it is Rapture in the sky pretty much its a super city with really advanced tech and it just turns into a nightmare like Rapture did, but who knows hopefully this all goes well and works out.

EDIT: Thanks Syntax and I think that is what Bioshock Infinite is, is that its a reboot to the series and it does take place 30 years before which makes it completely different and maybe they can some how tie Columbia in with Rapture though I have no idea how they would even do that.

[Kyburz]

Sorry guys, but I am loving this thing. The trailer feels Bioshock, the odd mix of "beautiful" and "dangerous" along with "calm" and "terrifying" is already peeking my interest... And the possibility that the two "prongs" of the Bioshock universe could collide into something in the future to create an "Awesomeshock" game and essentially divide by zero?

Yeah, I'm a bioshock fan girl, so sue me, but if Rapture failed and Columbia fell... well, think of the possibilities for future commingling of the plot lines. I think that "Bioshock" is to do with the abilities that are presented, not with the cities, but if the mythos can be expanded to two (or more) cities that then "exist" within the same universe I say bring it on.

Well said! I am very excited by this. I think the Irrational team has some very interesting things to say. Rapture will always be my true love, but I think Columbia has already earned a lot of endearment from me. I love steampunk, I love Victorian-era stuff, I love turn of the century America, I love alternate histories like this, it just seems ridiculously fascinating. I could not have imagined Irrational's project would be so amazing.

[goodgirlsgather01]

plus i dont see the horror factor in this game
the signs of a dystopian society? Columbia's a dystopia? what?
this looks like a nice stroll through the park compared to rapture

[rAdam]

I'll say what I said before.




Rapture = BIOSHOCK.
HOW CAN YOU TAKE RAPTURE OUT OF BIOSHOCK?!

Also I just saw the trailer. NOT A BIG DADDY.
Ohhh, boy LOOK AT THAT! A big breasted leading female character THE MAIN CHARACTER MUST RESCUSE!
OOOHHHH SO CREATIVE!!1!

**** you, Irrational Games, for destroying the name of an AWESOME game. STOP TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY NOT BROKEN E___E;

No offense sir, but they are the game makers, and they, are the dreamer of dreams. If you don't like how they do it, go out and make your own successful game studio! Show em how it's done instead of telling them how to handle something THEY created.

[AK Downfall]

WOW


I know people have the right to their opinion, but Jesus Christ, some of you guys are completely over reacting.
haha im not over reacting. Over reacting is me leaving the forum of hatered to what Ken made.

Im going to do what Althea did. Good bye forumers. This is the last time you will have see me or hear of me until i Ken changes the god Da*n name

[Reborn in the Ocean]

....apart of me still hates what Jen did.

I;ll get the game play then go to my backyard to practice shooting at it....

Im pissed and you dont ever see that from me.

Yeah well I think the game will work out quite well and don't worry if you practice shooting at it a sudden wind may come and make you miss all of your shots and then steal your game away from you and it will go into the ocean never to be seen again :p.

EDIT: I doubt you will leave the 2k forums AK I know you enough to say that you won't :p

[Zest]

No offense sir, but they are the game makers, and they, are the dreamer of dreams. If you don't like how they do it, go out and make your own successful game studio! Show em how it's done instead of telling them how to handle something THEY created.

No offense, sir, but you sound like a completely blind supporter and cannot handle when there is very blatantly something very wrong with how a successful corporation handles things O:

For a perfect, though unrelated, example: Microsoft.
So I can chalk Irrational Games up with this~

[OurChoicesMakeUs]

OMG!!! I just saw the trailer and I am flipping out!! Im a little apprehensive about the whole setting but I'll be buying this regardless.


plus i dont see the horror factor in this game
the signs of a dystopian society? Columbia's a dystopia? what?
this looks like a nice stroll through the park compared to rapture

^I completly agree with you. The whole city in the sky seems a little happy go lucky to me. Let hope they manage to squeeze in the fear that came with Bio1.

[Tycho.]

Lets see what all the doubters say when the demo video comes out in two weeks time.


****ing doubters ..

[brendensavi]

Rapture will always be my true love, but I think Columbia has already earned a lot of endearment from me. I love steampunk, I love Victorian-era stuff, I love turn of the century America, I love alternate histories like this, it just seems ridiculously fascinating.

My thoughts exactly! I love the Victorian era, and it seems like we'll be seeing a lot of influences from it. Rapture will always be my favourite, and nothing could ever replace it, but Infinite has a lot of potential. I'm hoping we'll be seeing a lot of art nouveau advertisements, rather than art deco. I love those!

The BioShock we love and adore is still there; there's no need to act out of bitterness like those XCOM fellows, rather than appreciate this new work of art for what it is, and yes, it certainly is art.

[TAK The Voyager]

****ing doubters ..
lol

Yes, I can't wait for the demo video...

TAK

[Shades]

It just doesn't feel like Bioshock, it looks fairly good, but to me, it's like B2 all over again. Find the girl and escape. I miss Rapture already. :(

[Blade_Runner]

lol

Yes, I can't wait for the demo video...

TAK

agreed Rapture =/= Bioshock. Rapture = a futuristic secret city where a bioshock ocurred

[janissary12]

^I completly agree with you. The whole city in the sky seems a little happy go lucky to me. Let hope they manage to squeeze in the fear that came with Bio1.
Let's see:

you wake up getting drowned by a robot,
with a human heart inside it,
in an aquarium, and
subsequently get tossed thru a window to
fall to almost certain death, and
see a venomous anti-immigration poster, and
when someone tries to save you
she's grabbed by another robot.

Yeahhhhhh, that's MY definition of "happy-go-lucky."

Have people talked about the big jingoistic posters yet?

These doubters, with their almost complete lack of REAL information, just uninformed speculation, are simply ludicrous.

(Also, I loved the "road runner physics" of the one rose in front of the player....)

[Nohjo]

Good thing our Hero has a Dutch surname. DeWitt.

Oh I am so enjoying this.

[venom11]

OMFG! i can't belive it! NEW BIOSHOCK!! and it's set before BS1 and BS2! a city in the sky and a pair who wants to escape from it! all i can say it's awesome and i already can't wait for it! i just want BS atmosphere and it's truly a BS game and it has connections with BS universe!
i thought irrational games are making a new game series not a BS game! i don't know what to say except THANK YOU IRRATIONAL!!!

2012. =(

[TAK The Voyager]

Let's see:

you wake up getting drowned by a robot,
with a human heart inside it,
in an aquarium, and
subsequently get tossed thru a window to
fall to almost certain death, and
see a venomous anti-immigration poster, and
when someone tries to save you
she's grabbed by another robot.

Yeahhhhhh, that's MY definition of "happy-go-lucky."

Also. You die at the end.

But that's what I love. At the end of almost any of the BioShock 1 trailers, Jack/You died at the end. I hope they bring back that element of one man vs. the city, you know?

TAK

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Oops dead already nice try IG;)

[OurChoicesMakeUs]

Let's see:

you wake up getting drowned by a robot,
with a human heart inside it,
in an aquarium, and
subsequently get tossed thru a window to
fall to almost certain death, and
see a venomous anti-immigration poster, and
when someone tries to save you
she's grabbed by another robot.

Yeahhhhhh, that's MY definition of "happy-go-lucky."

Have people talked about the big jingoistic posters yet?

I guess you do have there. What I ment was there doesn't seem to be a city at its knees tearing its citizens apart like we saw in rapture. Who knows tho, thats just my assumption from the trailer

[tupello]

It just doesn't feel like Bioshock, it looks fairly good, but to me, it's like B2 all over again. Find the girl and escape. I miss Rapture already. :(

I agree it doesn't feel like Biohock what ever.

It's like they are using the Bioshock name to create a new IP. Actually this reminds me of Silent Hill 4: The Room a game which had no connection to the previous entries and could have been a totally new series.

[Blade_Runner]

people being grabbed by robots? conspiracy! at least this tin-man has a heart:D

[Blade_Runner]

I agree it doesn't feel like Biohock what ever.

It's like they are using the Bioshock name to create a new IP. Actually this reminds me of Silent Hill 4: The Room a game which had no connection to the previous entries and could have been a totally new series.

it feels like Bioshock, it just doesn't feel like Rapture

[Kyburz]

My thoughts exactly! I love the Victorian era, and it seems like we'll be seeing a lot of influences from it. Rapture will always be my favourite, and nothing could ever replace it, but Infinite has a lot of potential. I'm hoping we'll be seeing a lot of art nouveau advertisements, rather than art deco. I love those!

The BioShock we love and adore is still there; there's no need to act out of bitterness like those XCOM fellows, rather than appreciate this new work of art for what it is, and yes, it certainly is art.

Well said! Yes, i do certainly expect some art nouveau! I can't wait to learn more of this fictional world's back story.

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

I agree it doesn't feel like Biohock what ever.

It's like they are using the Bioshock name to create a new IP. Actually this reminds me of Silent Hill 4: The Room a game which had no connection to the previous entries and could have been a totally new series.

This is'ent bioshock it's like taking halo and turning it into a medevil rpg

No daddies
no rapture
no splicers
no little sisters
no adam
no ryan:o

NO BIOSHOCK

[STOP@RED]

Rapture is officially dead :). Gonna miss it but it's time for something new.
Oh and I lol'd so hard when the girl got grabbed through the window.

[Adam Addict L]

Rapture is officially dead it's time for something new.


In ALL seriousness Rapture is NOT dead yet,and as such I do not AT ALL think it's time for something new

[brendensavi]

Have people talked about the big jingoistic posters yet?

Very briefly. I'm not sure if I like that part yet.

[Kyburz]

Very briefly. I'm not sure if I like that part yet.

I think that they are the point of the game. I think the game is very much intended to be a criticism of current events in the United States.

[janissary12]

it feels like Bioshock, it just doesn't feel like Rapture
That's GOOD, 'cuz as much as I love Rapture, it was a cul-de-sac. And gamers were already b!¢hing about "itmuzta fludded by now, mannnnnn" ::long toke:: .

Even being ABLE to break out Bioshockian elements into a whole new environment is a very hopeful development.


plus i dont see the horror factor in this game
the signs of a dystopian society? Columbia's a dystopia? what?

Yeah, cuz a two minute trailer showed you SO much. :mad: :p What, a dystopia can't be sunny?

I wish the "tongue-out" emoticon wasn't so happy looking.

[Gregory]

This is terrible in my opinion.

[Ureh]

Yeah, I'm not sure which fate is worse:

1. Getting spliced, brainwashed, then glued to a deep sea diving suit.

or

2. Getting vivisected, then having select parts of your body glued to a robotic suit. And who knows what else?!

:eek:

[Shades]

This is'ent bioshock it's like taking halo and turning it into a medevil rpg

No daddies
no rapture
no splicers
no little sisters
no adam
no ryan:o

NO BIOSHOCK

And no plasmids(?). Plasmids and ADAM are what made Bioshock so unique, and they may (Or may not) be taking one of the key elements out of the series.

[janissary12]

Very briefly. I'm not sure if I like that part yet.
I think "liking" is very much beside the point.

I didn't like "The Republic of Gilead" very much either. As much as many in the US pray for its arrival. :eek:

Oh yeah. I went there.

[Adam Addict L]

Yeah, I'm not sure which fate is worse:

1. Getting spliced, brainwashed, then glued to a deep sea diving suit.

or

2. Getting vivisected, then having select parts of your body glued to a robotic suit. And who knows what else?!

:eek:

probably BOTH are EQUALLY bad :p

[tupello]

This is'ent bioshock it's like taking halo and turning it into a medevil rpg

No daddies
no rapture
no splicers
no little sisters
no adam
no ryan:o

NO BIOSHOCK

Couldn't agree more.

I was concerned about Rapture being over used but never expected such a massive change in everything. I'm very wary about this...

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

And no plasmids(?).

That too!.

[Zest]

No offense sir, but they are the game makers, and they, are the dreamer of dreams. If you don't like how they do it, go out and make your own successful game studio! Show em how it's done instead of telling them how to handle something THEY created.

No offense, sir, but you sound like a completely blind supporter and cannot handle when there is very blatantly something very wrong with how a successful corporation handles things O:

For a perfect, though unrelated, example: Microsoft.
So I can chalk Irrational Games up with this~

And, was said a few pages back, if they really WERE creative, they would've found a way to make Rapture work. But they didn't. They just took the name of "Bioshock" for some REALLY easy marketing.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

[SyntaxError]

Lamb over the radio: Rapture.... is dead.




nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[janissary12]

NEW BIOSHOCK!! and it's set before BS1 and BS2!

((BIG GRIN)) There's your PRE-qual, boys and girls.

It don't get more prequal than that!!!! :D :D :D


ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy

[tupello]

This is terrible in my opinion.

I'm very concerned...

Why does this game have the bioshock title? Is it related to Bioshock?

[iPomegranate]

I Was Right! City In The Sky! I Was Right! I Told You So! Total Mind F*** Right Now! Omfg! Ahhhhhh!

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Couldn't agree more.

I was concerned about Rapture being over used but never expected such a massive change in everything. I'm very wary about this...

Thank you for agreeing with me:)

I suppose I'll have too see more before I totally rage out:p


but still:mad:

My guess is that is it's called bioshock then all the fanboys/girls will buy it, thus more money.

[TAK The Voyager]

Lamb over the radio: Rapture.... is dead.




nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who knew she was right? :(

Nah, I think there could be a BioShock 3. But I'd rather not want one...

TAK

[OurChoicesMakeUs]

On a slightly related note, somethinginthesky.com has already been taken:D

[Blade_Runner]

I'm very concerned...

Why does this game have the bioshock title? Is it related to Bioshock?

its because, like Rapture, Columbia is experiencing a "bioshock"

[janissary12]

its because, like Rapture, Columbia is experiencing a "bioshock"
Good save. Let's go with this, everybody.

[Gregory]

This is terrible in my opinion.

[tupello]

its because, like Rapture, Columbia is experiencing a "bioshock"

I'm intrigued but that to me is just using a franchises name to set up a new series. I don't like this at all.

[janissary12]

This is terrible in my opinion.
Thanks for posting the same thing at least twice, tosser.

[venom11]

we should wait for more informations and what are the connections beetwen BSI and BS 1 & 2. this doesn't really look like a BS game but you can see telekinesis. that girl used it to stop that guy from falling down.

[brendensavi]

I think that they are the point of the game. I think the game is very much intended to be a criticism of current events in the United States.

I suppose. I'm sure Irrational will integrate it into the story wonderfully just as they did with Objectivism and BioShock, but Objectivism is something I actually do have an interest in. Whereas I'm not particularly interested in any sort of Jingoism.

[Adam Addict L]

this looks like a nice stroll through the park compared to rapture

Agreed


No offense sir, but they are the game makers, and they, are the dreamer of dreams. If you don't like how they do it, go out and make your own successful game studio! Show em how it's done instead of telling them how to handle something THEY created.

No offense sir,but although they did create Bioshock,I think they NEED to be shown how it's done with this new quote ''Bioshock'' unquote Infinite


agreed Rapture =/= Bioshock. Rapture = a futuristic secret city where a bioshock ocurred

I disagree. A city in the sky does not a Bioshock make. Bioshock is Rapture,Rapture is Bioshock. I will say it again,Bioshock is a body,and RAPTURE(NOT ''Columbia'',or anything else for that matter) is the HEART. Without the heart,you cannot have the body.

With that,I am still awaiting the flames from the XCOM people for all my posts on the XCOM forum :p

[Epstein_The_Swami]

On a slightly related note, somethinginthesky.com has already been taken:D

LOL, if only man. If only.


I think the majority of those naysayers will change their tune come release and will soon have no doubts about dropping some cash into their local game store for Infinite.

[Blade_Runner]

Good save. Let's go with this, everybody.

see! "bioshock" is a type of situation. Systemshock is called Systemshock because the main computer system in the game experienced a "system shock" which caused it to go hostile and want to kill you

[Trie215]

I for one am excited to see Rapture out of the light for a while. If they do bring it back, it will be all the more rewarding.

Rapture is NOT Bioshock. Bioshock is NOT Rapture.

Bioshock is just a name. The game could have been called Rapture and been better off from it. Bioshock is (to me) more of a series, or feeling, or concept. Yes, Rapture is beautiful, and I love it. But I have a hard time envisioning myself being awestruck by Rapture ever again. To me, now, it's more like my alma mater, where if I ever do get the chance to go back, I will be filled with nostalgia, and if I don't get the chance, I'll always have the memories.

This game feels like having a new girlfriend. While I'll miss what was, and wonder if my new experiences could ever match the old, but my excitement makes me see everything in a bright new curiosity... Butterflies are accumulating.

Levine's story was done in Rapture apparently. He wasn't telling the story of Rapture specifically, but the story of its meaning. There is a ton of lore that can be shaped from Rapture, and I'm sure it will be in some form, but this universe can be equally as engrossing and captivating. There is always room for something amazing.

[janissary12]

I'm intrigued but that to me is just using a franchises name to set up a new series. I don't like this at all.
Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible. (And now I can pitch my space station idea again.)(Shut up.)

Rapture was brilliant, but a straight-jacket.
++++++++++++


This game feels like having a new girlfriend.
Damn, I want YOUR system. >;^)

[Shades]

we should wait for more informations and what are the connections beetwen BSI and BS 1 & 2. this doesn't really look like a BS game but you can see telekinesis. that girl used it to stop that guy from falling down.

Perhaps she may be the only one that is able to use it. In the article posted earlier on in the thread, it said Elizabeth (The girl) would use her elemental powers to assist you, but would physically drain her. This tells me that it's not very likely the player himself will be able to use these powers. Time will tell.

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

I'm intrigued but that to me is just using a franchises name to set up a new series. I don't like this at all.

Next it will be

The elder scrolls: space battles

Fallout 4:super happy bunny game

Halo medevil war

Mass effect 3: the dinosaur version!

[Venom Wolf]

Wow this looks amazing. Maybe Andrew Ryan was inspired by this city.

[Blade_Runner]

Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible. (And now I can pitch my space station idea again.)(Shut up.)

Rapture was brilliant, but a straight-jacket.

YES! someone gets it! thats what i was trying to explain! Shake 'n' Bake!:D

[TAK The Voyager]

Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


You said it much better then I could ever. :)

TAK

[iPomegranate]

Okay so we have ocean, sky, what else? Land has been done.. Hm..... >_>

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Okay so we have ocean, sky, what else? Land has been done.. Hm..... >_>

Bioshock : SPACE CITY FROM NOWHERE!

[Shades]

Bioshock : SPACE CITY FROM NOWHERE!

Space has been done too. Dead Space.

[tupello]

Next it will be

The elder scrolls: space battles

Fallout 4:super happy bunny game

Halo medevil war

Mass effect 3: the dinosaur version!

Or-

Metal Gear Solid: Singstar

Silent Hill: Mafia Wars

Final Fantasy: FPS

Super Mario GTA!!!

[Ureh]

Why call it BioShock, then? What not call it something else? Is that marketing? Is that artistic option?

I think it's both because I think BioShock is a lot more than just Rapture. This is a game; it's a first-person shooter set in an amazing place with a story wrought with – from our perspective – ideas that are tied with history. And everything else really is up for grabs. But we felt that if we made this game and it wasn't a BioShock game, that would be a bit of a cheat. To say, "Oh, it's a totally new thing." But it is a new thing, but it's also a continuation of the things we've done before.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/video-interview-ken-levine-on-bioshock-infinite/

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Space has been done too. Dead Space.

Hmmm

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[venom11]

Okay so we have ocean, sky, what else? Land has been done.. Hm..... >_>

space?

anyway...come on guys don't be so pesimistic! for god sakes it's kevin f***** levine! he knows what's he doing! i like the concept of the game.
we.need.to.wait!

[TAK The Voyager]

Space has been done too. Dead Space.

People (including myself, because it reminded me of such) were saying that was like a mix of Resident Evil and BioShock. In space.

TAK

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Or-

Metal Gear Solid: Singstar

Silent Hill: Mafia Wars

Final Fantasy: FPS

Super Mario GTA!!!

Lol!
:p :D
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[Blade_Runner]

Okay so we have ocean, sky, what else? Land has been done.. Hm..... >_>

sub-terranian?

[brendensavi]

Fallout 4:super happy bunny game

That's a bit much. To be honest, Infinite isn't entirely different from BioShock, and it seems like it will share a lot of the same elements. Regardless, this seems to be a lot like the XCOM forums...

"It looks good, but it shares the same title, therefore I despise it."

[SyntaxError]

Guys read this! It might make some feel a bit better.http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/12/irrational-games-next-project-coming-to-ps3-first-video-and-ken-levine-qa/

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Do you think they were drunk/high when they thought of this?

>.>

[Adam Addict L]

I Was Right! City In The Sky! I Was Right! I Told You So! Total Mind F*** Right Now! Omfg! Ahhhhhh!

I was right too...sort of! :D ...Cause...awhile back I had an idea for a ''Bioshock'' of sorts in space....but turns out we won't be in space...just the next best thing to it...in the sky :p lol

[The_Whale_In_Bioshock_1]

ill be perfectly ok with it..

if its a spin off

but dont you dare slap the fans in the face and call it bioshock 3

bioshock has done so well because of the back drop

PEOPLE LOVE RAPTURE

dont tear us away from it