Bioshock Infinite Discussion (Spoilers?)

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

That's a bit much. To be honest, Infinite isn't entirely different from BioShock, and it seems like it will share a lot of the same elements. Regardless, this seems to be a lot like the XCOM forums...

"It looks good, but it shares the same title, therefore I despise it."

Yup
sorry but thats how people work:p

[tupello]

Hey guys, Im really really tired and I just wanna check something- is this information true? Do you Americans have April Fools on another day? Such as today?

Failing this I hope to wake in the morning and find this was all a dream.

[SyntaxError]

Do you think they were drunk/high when they thought of this?

>.>We need to find out what cough mixture Ken uses:D

[Blade_Runner]

I was right too...sort of! :D ...Cause...awhile back I had an idea for a ''Bioshock'' of sorts in space....but turns out we won't be in space...just the next best thing to it...in the sky :p lol

Bioshock in space = Dead Space or Systemshock

[janissary12]

YES! someone gets it! thats what i was trying to explain! Shake 'n' Bake!:D
::modesty:: I just rephrased your point. It's a gift.

BTW, this has emphasized to me: Ken Levine is a VERY smart fellow.

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Hey guys, Im really really tired and I just wanna check something- is this information true? Do you Americans have April Fools on another day? Such as today?

Failing this I hope to wake in the morning and find this was all a dream.

Well i'm english but the forumers have already had there april fools joke

dammit and i belived them....

[janissary12]

Or-
Metal Gear Solid: Singstar
Silent Hill: Mafia Wars
Final Fantasy: FPS
Super Mario GTA!!!
I would play any of those, but especially the last!!! :D ;)

++++++++++
One of those jingoistic posters says "It Is Our Holy Duty to protect them from the (something) hordes and the (something) anarchists".

1) there goes the anarchist/libertarian market. That's ok: they don't bathe enough. >|^P''''
2) "Holy" duty? Oooooo, that's worrisome. "When fascism comes to America it will be draped in the flag and carrying a Bible."

[Blade_Runner]

::modesty:: I just rephrased your point. It's a gift.

BTW, this has emphasized to me: Ken Levine is a VERY smart fellow.

thank you. you rephrased it excellently

[cxa117]

It's an euphemism towards how horrible Irrational Games is destroying the iconic gaming figure I ONCE thought was so awesome :(

This is exactly what I thought. I looks like a cool game, but slapping the Bioshock name on it, to me is bad. Whenever I think of Bioshock I think of Big Daddy's and the ocean, not floating in the sky trying to save some lady.

Seeing the trailer reminded me more of "Up" than of Bioshock, with the floating houses and everything. :(

[october_midnight]

Putting in my vote for them to change the name to: Skyoshock.

[Venom Wolf]

This is exactly what I thought. I looks like a cool game, but slapping the Bioshock name on it, to me is bad. Whenever I think of Bioshock I think of Big Daddy's and the ocean, not floating in the sky trying to save some lady.

Seeing the trailer reminded me more of "Up" than of Bioshock, with the floating houses and everything. :(

Actually it reminded me of Crash Bandicoot 3 Warped plane levels.

[Nohjo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GYLs-SrOw&feature=related

These are the new songs we will hear.
Steampunk here we come!

[iPomegranate]

I'm experiencing Fanboy feelings I have never felt before...

Shouldn't Liz make a new forum for this?

[Blade_Runner]

This is exactly what I thought. I looks like a cool game, but slapping the Bioshock name on it, to me is bad. Whenever I think of Bioshock I think of Big Daddy's and the ocean, not floating in the sky trying to save some lady.

Seeing the trailer reminded me more of "Up" than of Bioshock, with the floating houses and everything. :(

we should see Bioshock as such:


Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.

[Ryan's number 1 fan]

Ok so far no impressed going to bed now so hopefully i'll be in a better mood tommorrow:)

[Shades]

I'm a little sceptical at the moment, but who knows, it may turn out to be a really good game. What's the point in complaining when it's just been announced? I think we should give it a little more time.

[SyntaxError]

Seriously people read this interview! http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/12/irrational-games-next-project-coming-to-ps3-first-video-and-ken-levine-qa/

[tupello]

Well i'm english but the forumers have already had there april fools joke

dammit and i belived them....

God Damn! My only option left is hope my supreme tiredness has resulted in some kind of insanity or even dementia and that sleep wl cure this put this matter right.

I understand that before Bioshock came Systemshock, so why didn't they just use a variation of that name for this game? Areoshock, Cloudshock, Skyshock, Steampunkshock etc. Although I'm half joking around I would have preferred this approach. That way it would sti be linked or referenced to Bioshock but still be it's own game.

[Blade_Runner]

Actually it reminded me of Crash Bandicoot 3 Warped plane levels.

yes! more places with more levels to it, not so linear

[Adam Addict L]

I'm experiencing Fanboy feelings I have never felt before...

Shouldn't Liz make a new forum for this?

well probably not considering Irrational Games is behind the game and not 2K


Putting in my vote for them to change the name to: Skyoshock.

I'll be adding my vote to yours

[Blade_Runner]

God Damn! My only option left is hope my supreme tiredness has resulted in some kind of insanity or even dementia and that sleep wl cure this put this matter right.

I understand that before Bioshock came Systemshock, so why didn't they just use a variation of that name for this game? Areoshock, Cloudshock, Skyshock, Steampunkshock etc. Although I'm half joking around I would have preferred this approach. That way it would sti be linked or referenced to Bioshock but still be it's own game.

this is why



Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.

[iPomegranate]

well probably not considering Irrational Games is behind the game and not 2K
Sad Face :(


And is anybody else having problems loading the site? It just has that August 12 date on my screen :P

[brendensavi]

Seriously people read this interview! http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/08/12/irrational-games-next-project-coming-to-ps3-first-video-and-ken-levine-qa/

I'm still reading it. It's very good so far; this particular quote made me smile...

"On a lower level, you have elements of Art Nouveau in the city, elements of colonial architecture styles in the city, and a variety of things. But they’re all in service of this “feeling.” BioShock was the same way — Art Deco gave us the “feeling” of what we wanted for that game."

Maybe we'll see a bit of Alphonse Mucha or Henri Privat-Livemont ;)

[Peachy Wilkins]

I'm sorry, there is just no way I'm ever going to be able to think of it as a BioShock game. To me, it's more of a spiritual successor, like what BioShock was to SS2.

It may be an AMAZING game, and to be honest, it's right up my alley- But it will never be a BioShock to me.

[Adam Addict L]

Also...


its because, like Rapture, Columbia is experiencing a "bioshock"


see! "bioshock" is a type of situation. Systemshock is called Systemshock because the main computer system in the game experienced a "system shock" which caused it to go hostile and want to kill you

yyyeeaaaa...I don't buy that,sorry


I for one am excited to see Rapture out of the light for a while. If they do bring it back, it will be all the more rewarding.

Rapture is NOT Bioshock. Bioshock is NOT Rapture.

I am excited to see a new game that looks awesome,but I am NOT excited to see a ''Bioshock'' without Rapture.

I will say it 1 more time....Bioshock IS Rapture...Rapture IS Bisohock. Bioshock is a body,and RAPTURE is the HEART of that body.

[cxa117]

Putting in my vote for them to change the name to: Skyoshock.

I agree. The name neeeds to be changed. someone should make a poll

[iPomegranate]

I'm sorry, there is just no way I'm ever going to be able to think of it as a BioShock game. To me, it's more of a spiritual successor, like what BioShock was to SS2.

It may be an AMAZING game, and to be honest, it's right up my alley- But it will never be a BioShock to me.
I have to agree with that statement, BioShock was dark and gloomy, this is all, SHINY o_o WHO WILL WE BE KILLING?! D:

[Adam Addict L]

It may be an AMAZING game, and to be honest, it's right up my alley- But it will never be a BioShock to me.

I quite whole-heartedly agree

[iPomegranate]

I say we have a petition to have Ken Levine make a forum account Like Jordan.

Anyone else with me?

(And the site wont load for me :P)

[Ureh]

I'm experiencing Fanboy feelings I have never felt before...

Shouldn't Liz make a new forum for this?

Irrational already has a dedicated forum for Infinite.
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/

[Mr.Plum]

I will say it 1 more time....Bioshock IS Rapture...Rapture IS Bisohock. Bioshock is a body,and RAPTURE is the HEART of that body.

In a couple of months, I have a feeling you'll disagree with what you just said.

[Nohjo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CaieEwEuiw&feature=related

This only in the sky.

[Blade_Runner]

Also...





yyyeeaaaa...I don't buy that,sorry



I am excited to see a new game that looks awesome,but I am NOT excited to see a ''Bioshock'' without Rapture.

I will say it 1 more time....Bioshock IS Rapture...Rapture IS Bisohock. Bioshock is a body,and RAPTURE is the HEART of that body.

i dont buy yours either Rapture is not Bioshock, its a place that experienced a social upheaval when a biotech revolution occured. Rapture went through a 'bioshock'

[Jub8Jub]

I just seen it and one word "wow".

[tupello]

I'm still reading it. It's very good so far; this particular quote made me smile...

"On a lower level, you have elements of Art Nouveau in the city, elements of colonial architecture styles in the city, and a variety of things. But they’re all in service of this “feeling.” BioShock was the same way — Art Deco gave us the “feeling” of what we wanted for that game."

Maybe we'll see a bit of Alphonse Mucha or Henri Privat-Livemont ;)

Yeah Art Nouveau fits this time line better, Art Deo came later but I much prefer Art Deco over this! Any day!!!

[FtRapture]

Irrational already has a dedicated forum for Infinite.
http://irrationalgames.com/community/forums/

Many of us are already over there iPom you should join us :)

[janissary12]

The name neeeds to be changed. someone should make a poll
So we can experience the pleasure of having Ken Levine tell us to blow it out our @$$?

Well, heck, sign me up! :mad:

[Venom Wolf]

Mixed reactions over at youtube, almost the same comments made here.

[Adam Addict L]

In a couple of months, I have a feeling you'll disagree with what you just said.

I disagree with that as well


i dont buy yours either Rapture is not Bioshock, its a place that experienced a social upheaval when a biotech revolution occured. Rapture went through a 'bioshock'

Rapture IS Bioshock...Rapture is what MADE and DEFINED the first Bioshock. Without Rapture,you do not have Bioshock,period.

[Vallanthaz]

Anyone see the cool swag the press got handed to them at last night's event?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/joyswag-bioshock-infinite-swag-bag-murder-of-crows-drink-po/

This is bad, really bad. All this extra crap we're going to have to buy and collect! =P

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-01.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-02.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-04.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-03.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-06.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-07.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-08.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-09.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-11.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-10.jpg

[Mr.Plum]

I disagree with that as well



Rapture IS Bioshock...Rapture is what MADE and DEFINED the first Bioshock. Without Rapture,you do not have Bioshock,period.

Bioshock: Infinite is a re-imagining of Bioshock. It's not a direct sequel. That means it's not going to be exactly the same. So don't worry, this isn't the end of Rapture. I'm sure Bioshock 3 is well under way.

[TAK The Voyager]

Anyone see the cool swag the press got handed to them at last night's event?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/joyswag-bioshock-infinite-swag-bag-murder-of-crows-drink-po/

This is bad, really bad. All this extra crap we're going to have to buy and collect! =P

All that stuff looks awesome, I hope it is available to get! XD

TAK

[FeIonious]

WOW


I know people have the right to their opinion, but Jesus Christ, some of you guys are completely over reacting.

/Signed

People need to relax, moaning about it in Rapture won't change anything their not going to scrap 2 years of development to go back to Rapture cause a few people on the forums are flipping out. Like I said in an earlier post, just as Final Fantasy games have a new setting so this is the approach to this game while keeping the spirit of gameplay and mechanics. Bioshock was Levine's game baby to begin with if anyone can make a game like this and still use the name, it should be him. You can even compare Bioshock to Call of Duty franchise in the way of development- Infinity Ward makes a great innovative game, Treyarch makes the next game using much of what Infinity Ward did in their game, and then Infinity Ward comes back with the next game which steps it up further. Perhaps 2k Marin after their done with XCom will go back to Rapture, even then it would be some time away.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

All that stuff looks awesome, I hope it is available to get! XD

TAK

Yeah I hope its available to get that because that does look pretty cool :) and I have high hopes for this what this is saying is a floating America you can't stop it!!

[venom11]

Bioshock: Infinite is a re-imagining of Bioshock. It's not a direct sequel. That means it's not going to be exactly the same. So don't worry, this isn't the end of Rapture. I'm sure Bioshock 3 is well under way.

i tottaly agree with you! it's re-imagining of Bioshock. Levine said that.
and enough of renaming it to skyoshock or whatever. this is bioshock. maybe not yet for now but we need to trust Levine. he's the man behind the Bioshock...he's our Andrew Ryan. this may not look like BS but i think it is. he said that we'll see that it looks like BS when we get our first gameplay video.
we just need to calm down and wait.

btw we'll get BSI forum cuz irrational is part of 2k

[Venom Wolf]

Anyone see the cool swag the press got handed to them at last night's event?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/joyswag-bioshock-infinite-swag-bag-murder-of-crows-drink-po/

This is bad, really bad. All this extra crap we're going to have to buy and collect! =P



A murder of crows? Isn't that same as saying a pride of lions or a pack of wolves?

[Adam Addict L]

I'm sure Bioshock 3 is well under way.

I sure hope so...:(

[Crazy Demon]

Honestly...I probably wouldn't be feeling so iffy about this game if it didn't have the Bioshock name to it. I know they're probably trying to get more sales but by calling it Bioshock, I'm going to go into the game expecting Rapture. The game could be absolutely amazing but having established preconceptions can really ruin it.

[janissary12]

The game could be absolutely amazing but having established preconceptions can really ruin it.
Whoa, my irony-meter just pegged out!

++++++
I love that Levine is taking on American Exceptionalism. He's running an educational facility disguised as a game company!

[Systemaddict]

As I said in other threads...I'm excited. Extremely. I love the trailer and I'm excited about new possibilities.

I'm also excited because if I was a betting man, I'd bank on them splitting the franchise. Irrational want to elaborate on the universe, 2K Marin (and others) are also free to elaborate on the world, as it were.

So this is Bioshock Infinite and not Bioshock 3. There's no need to expect Andrew Ryan and normal big daddy's - and I love that. I can see more of the whole and not just the parts.

I also love the fact that Ken Levine stated that Jack in the original was too involved with the characters of the world, and thus wasn't easy to establish a connection with as the player - something they aim to fix...makes me really happy to hear that.

I don't get the worry from some people, this is a good thing, it's healthy for the franchise and it doesn't mean you've seen the last of Rapture at all.

[iPomegranate]

Whoa, my irony-meter just pegged out!

++++++
I love that Levine is taking on American Exceptionalism. He's running an educational facility disguised as a game company!
THAT IS GENIUS! Ken is secretly brain washing us XD

[O'Malley de Bough]

This is Bioshock? This is not Bioshock. This is....some other game, but it's not Bioshock. Where is the underwater city? Where are the splicers? No....no...no

[janissary12]

THAT IS GENIUS! Ken is secretly brain washing us XD
"Educating", not brain washing. Big difference.

I was wondering how we were going to escape from retreads of "indviduals versus collectives" arguments. Guess that's why I'm not Ken Levine.

[Rybow73]

Here's hoping this one DOESN'T have multiplayer.


Please, 2K, no MP..


I always imagined a futuristic Rapture in SPACE.

Anyhow, not sure how I feel about this. But time will tell

One thing for sure - if it has multiplayer, I am *SO* skipping.

Jesus. Why are you spamming this thread with your multiplayer hate? If it has multiplayer...cool. If it doesn't...cool. The experience won't be tainted either way, so please calm down and post something about the game instead of something you don't want in the game.

[TAK The Voyager]

"Educating", not brain washing. Big difference.
Depends on how you look at it. :P

This is Bioshock? This is not Bioshock. This is....some other game, but it's not Bioshock. Where is the underwater city? Where are the splicers? No....no...no
They're just not there yet. :D

TAK

[janissary12]

Depends on how you look at it. :P
Not even close. One tells you WHAT to think. The other shows you HOW to think.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

This game is about a American Floating Death Machine comply or you will die lol :p

[Adam Addict L]

This is Bioshock? This is not Bioshock. This is....some other game, but it's not Bioshock. Where is the underwater city? Where are the splicers? No....no...no

As I have said a few times,I agree with this statement and statements similiar to it. Need RAPTURE to be Bioshock. No Rapture,not Bioshock

[Blade_Runner]

This is Bioshock? This is not Bioshock. This is....some other game, but it's not Bioshock. Where is the underwater city? Where are the splicers? No....no...no

this is Bioshock



Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.


you make it sound like its completely necessary for Bioshock to be about Rapture

[that_splicer_guy]

why do i feel as if this makes bioshock 2 feel like a spinoff, and this is the REAL BioShock two

bioshock two might aswell been named, bioshock:sea of dreams

and this game, BioShock 2

i love it, its better than getting the same ol' thing, if you dont like it, go play Army Of Two, because you deserve it

[Adam Addict L]

this is Bioshock

No,no it's not


why do i feel as if this makes bioshock 2 feel like a spinoff, and this is the REAL BioShock two

bioshock two might aswell been named, bioshock:sea of dreams

and this game, BioShock 2

Yea,like,I know,right? :p Although as I've already said,I'll NOT be accepting this new ''Bioshock'' as Bioshock 1's sequel

EDIT: STILL waiting for those flames,XCOM people,ready whenever you are :cool:

[Blade_Runner]

why do i feel as if this makes bioshock 2 feel like a spinoff, and this is the REAL BioShock two

bioshock two might aswell been named, bioshock:sea of dreams

and this game, BioShock 2

like Final Fantasy X and Final fantasy X-2?

[O'Malley de Bough]

Lets see if Irrational can make a good game...and when I say good, I mean great. And when I say great, I mean fan-freaking-tastic. And when I say that, I mean Starcraft 2.

[Blade_Runner]

No,no it's not



Yea,like,I know,right? :p Although as I've already said,I'll NOT be accepting this new ''Bioshock'' as Bioshock 1's sequel

oh well you dont have, and yes, that is the definition of a bioshock

[iPomegranate]

why do i feel as if this makes bioshock 2 feel like a spinoff, and this is the REAL BioShock two

bioshock two might aswell been named, bioshock:sea of dreams

and this game, BioShock 2

i love it, its better than getting the same ol' thing, if you dont like it, go play Army Of Two, because you deserve it
I kinda have to agree with this :P And plus this kinda makes Minerva's Den look like the final chapter :(

[Blade_Runner]

it looks like this thread is going to make the difference between a Bioshock fan, and a Rapture fan

[Purplehedgehog1]

Well for one I am overly excited for this game, shaking even. I feel a few concerns need to be answered.

1. Why are they changing the setting? Rapture was so dark and bleak, but full of wonder, it's something the fans know, but now we're being thrown into a whole new environment. Maybe it being way before Rapture can answer some of the questions around the city's foming :confused:

2. Bioshock 1 & 2 had a creepy mysterious feeling to it, where everything was dark and you felt trapped almost. This game is set high above in the clouds, I'm not getting that same feeling I got watching the trailers for the past few games.

3. Does this mean the rapture we know under the sea is gone? Or will we see it sink into the depths in another game.

[iPomegranate]

it looks like this thread is going to make the difference between a Bioshock fan, and a Rapture fan
Hmm, I ADORE Rapture, but this will have to grow on me. OH! Will there be genetic modifications?

[OurChoicesMakeUs]

Anyone see the cool swag the press got handed to them at last night's event?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/joyswag-bioshock-infinite-swag-bag-murder-of-crows-drink-po/

This is bad, really bad. All this extra crap we're going to have to buy and collect! =P

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-01.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-02.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-04.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-03.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-06.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-07.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-08.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-09.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-11.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-10.jpg

Bio games always have the best swag!

[iPomegranate]

Anyone see the cool swag the press got handed to them at last night's event?

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/joyswag-bioshock-infinite-swag-bag-murder-of-crows-drink-po/

This is bad, really bad. All this extra crap we're going to have to buy and collect! =P

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-01.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-02.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-04.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-03.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-06.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-07.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-08.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-09.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-11.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/08/bioshock-infinite-swag-10.jpg
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT! D:

[Blade_Runner]

Hmm, I ADORE Rapture, but this will have to grow on me. OH! Will there be genetic modifications?

the rose woman in the trailer used Telekenisis

[STOP@RED]

Hmm looks like the Big Daddy in the trailer is a machine?

[Adam Addict L]

oh well you dont have, and yes, that is the definition of a bioshock

Rapture is Bioshock


it looks like this thread is going to make the difference between a Bioshock fan, and a Rapture fan

This I do agree with-partly-more like a Bioshock fan,and a RAPTURE Bioshock Fan,not just a Rapture fan

[Blade_Runner]

Rapture is Bioshock



This I do agree with-partly-more like a Bioshock fan,and a RAPTURE Bioshock Fan,not just a Rapture fan

i agree with this


You all say it can't be Bioshock without Rapture. Well it's the opposite, it can't be Rapture without Bioshock

[Codex]

EDIT: STILL waiting for those flames,XCOM people,ready whenever you are :cool:

They don't even need to come up here with some of the comments you're putting out there, L.

It's not a sequel, it's a prequel. Stop complaining about it. No matter what Levine does he can't get rid of BS2 from the cannon without writing out BS1 all together. This game EXPANDS THE CANON of the Bioshock Universe, it doesn't destroy it. If you're not pleased about it, FINE, don't buy it or go yell on Irrational's forums - you know, the place where THE DEVS OF THE GAME ACTUALLY ARE?

Seriously, all this stuff is really starting to annoy me. It has Bioshock in the title, therefore it is Bioshock. It isn't what you want it to be, yet you raged at the people who were hating on BS2 for it being what they didn't want it to be.

The hypocrisy surrounding this game announcement is astounding. it takes place BEFORE Bioshock 1, therefore it CANNOT HARM the Rapture you know and love. At the very least it gets us a new environment and a new set of characters that can interact with Rapture, at most we suddenly have a larger world in which more can happen.

[STOP@RED]

So at least we know where Andrew got his Rapture idea from lol.

[Blackbird SR-71C]

Ok, seeing as this is a Remake or Reimagination if Bioshock I have only one thing to say:

YOU DON'T FU**ING DO THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE MAIN STORYLINE IS FINISHED!!! YOU DON'T REMAKE SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S DONE!!! NO F**ING WAY!!!

Sorry for all the rage, but even if it ties into the Bioshock-Series, it doesn't make a bit of difference since it doesn't make any sense unless it takes place after Bioshock 2...You know...since FLYING CITIES weren't present before Bioshock.

[Purplehedgehog1]

One thing you know is going to happen with this game is that like the first Bioshock it's going to blow you away. You can't expect anything like in Bioshock 2, I'm looking forward to the new-ness of it.:D

[Adam Addict L]

They don't even need to come up here with some of the comments you're putting out there, L.

It's not a sequel, it's a prequel. Stop complaining about it. No matter what Levine does he can't get rid of BS2 from the cannon without writing out BS1 all together. This game EXPANDS THE CANON of the Bioshock Universe, it doesn't destroy it. If you're not pleased about it, FINE, don't buy it or go yell on Irrational's forums - you know, the place where THE DEVS OF THE GAME ACTUALLY ARE?

Seriously, all this stuff is really starting to annoy me. It has Bioshock in the title, therefore it is Bioshock. It isn't what you want it to be, yet you raged at the people who were hating on BS2 for it being what they didn't want it to be.

The hypocrisy surrounding this game announcement is astounding. it takes place BEFORE Bioshock 1, therefore it CANNOT HARM the Rapture you know and love. At the very least it gets us a new environment and a new set of characters that can interact with Rapture, at most we suddenly have a larger world in which more can happen.

I'm not hating on the game,I think it looks awesome,and I'll probably get it,play it,AND love it. Even though you're right,I still just wish it wasn't Bioshock :( ....But oh well,I guess...I will be looking forward to this game,though

[TAK The Voyager]

Ok, seeing as this is a Remake or Reimagination if Bioshock I have only one thing to say:

YOU DON'T FU**ING DO THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE MAIN STORYLINE IS FINISHED!!! YOU DON'T REMAKE SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S DONE!!! NO F**ING WAY!!!

Sorry for all the rage, but even if it ties into the Bioshock-Series, it doesn't make a bit of difference since it doesn't make any sense unless it takes place after Bioshock 2...You know...since FLYING CITIES weren't present before Bioshock.

Prequel.

TAK

[Blade_Runner]

Ok, seeing as this is a Remake or Reimagination if Bioshock I have only one thing to say:

YOU DON'T FU**ING DO THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE MAIN STORYLINE IS FINISHED!!! YOU DON'T REMAKE SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S DONE!!! NO F**ING WAY!!!

Sorry for all the rage, but even if it ties into the Bioshock-Series, it doesn't make a bit of difference since it doesn't make any sense unless it takes place after Bioshock 2...You know...since FLYING CITIES weren't present before Bioshock.

well since this is a Bioshock game i guess that flying cities do take place

[janissary12]

well since this is a Bioshock game i guess that flying cities do take place
Yeah, I kinda missed the part in BS1&2 where we had a leisurely sit-down for a couple hours with a history book and got all brought up to speed. :p

Maybe it's a DLC? (that would be hilarious)

[Daidoji_Tangen]

I give up. I read a page and another is already up.

The topics I read about:

Levine: I don't think Levine bears BS2 any ill will. He wanted Rapture to be a one time thing. 2K didn't. He creates his own Bioshock outside of Rapture. That doesn't mean he thinks BS2 sucks. It's simply not what he wanted. I love BS2. I thought it was better gamewise, with a story that was about equal or close enough to the original (and honestly, one of the big downsides to the BS2 story was the fact that you weren't discovering everything for the first time). I'm not some ardent Levine supporter (actually, I only realized they were made by different people today when the discussion came up). But I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't bashing BS2. He was just trying to create excitement for BSI.

Rapture: I want the story of Rapture to continue. But there is no reason that it is the only place the Bioshock story can take place. I look forward to Columbia with an open mind.

[Hero]

what platform is it for?

[Zest]

They don't even need to come up here with some of the comments you're putting out there, L.

It's not a sequel, it's a prequel. Stop complaining about it. No matter what Levine does he can't get rid of BS2 from the cannon without writing out BS1 all together. This game EXPANDS THE CANON of the Bioshock Universe, it doesn't destroy it. If you're not pleased about it, FINE, don't buy it or go yell on Irrational's forums - you know, the place where THE DEVS OF THE GAME ACTUALLY ARE?

Seriously, all this stuff is really starting to annoy me. It has Bioshock in the title, therefore it is Bioshock. It isn't what you want it to be, yet you raged at the people who were hating on BS2 for it being what they didn't want it to be.

The hypocrisy surrounding this game announcement is astounding. it takes place BEFORE Bioshock 1, therefore it CANNOT HARM the Rapture you know and love. At the very least it gets us a new environment and a new set of characters that can interact with Rapture, at most we suddenly have a larger world in which more can happen.


JUST because it has the name BIOSHOCK in it does NOT mean it a BIOSHOCK GAME.

Just because the city it takes place in is EXPERIENCE a "bioshock" DOES NOT MAKE IT A BIOSHOCK GAME.


So how about we start a new trend: Let's make an onslaught of games.

Like a new Halo game.
Only, there are no Spartans. And it takes place under water. In a diving suit.
You can't say it's not a Halo game because it has the name HALO in it.

How about Legend of Zelda?
Only you don't play a nameless leading male character in green tights rescuing a princess and land from a giant pig. You're an elderly farmer.
And it doesn't take place in good ol' pre-cultural times. It takes place in New York.
Don't try saying it's NOT LoZ, because it has it in the title C:

Now, a new Mario World game.
Only this Mario wears blue denim overalls and has flowing, long, blond hair.
Your main protagonist isn't a giant turtle, though, THAT'S OLD AND BORING.
It's a teddy bear c:

And now Final Fantasy IVVVVVIIIIWWX!
You're an intern for a lawyer.
IT'S STILL FINAL FANTASY, HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE.


ETA:
However, I MUST say. This game does look great, fantastic maybe. JUST DON'T CALL IT SOMETHING IT'S CLEARLY NOT. It looks more like a poor excuse for getting easy marketing.
Don't. Call it. BIOSHOCK.

[janissary12]

Don't. Call it. BIOSHOCK.
You can vent all you like, but kids,

That boat has sailed.

[october_midnight]

Wow @ all the nerd rage. My take on it is:

1. It's a video game, love it if you're gonna love it, don't if you don't, but cut the anger...it's foolish.
2. They can call it BioShock if they bloody well want to...you make the game? No?? Silence, you dope.
3. I'm sure they have the fans' best interests (along with the desire for it to do well...you know...to make money) at heart.
4. They haven't released anything other than a teaser trailer and a bit of info.
5. People cry and moan when another game is 'still in rapture' and now that they try something different, they cry and moan.

And most importantly:

6. "YOU DON'T FU**ING DO THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE MAIN STORYLINE IS FINISHED!!! YOU DON'T REMAKE SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S DONE!!! NO F**ING WAY!!!"

Umm, yes way. Maybe they'll do a Rapture based BioShock 3...maybe it's headed here. Either way, dry your eyes and get upset about something that actually matters in life.

[Raven-sb]

Well given the misinformation 2k spread about Bioshock 2's DRM before it was released, there is no way in hell I'm picking up another 2k game until I know for sure what the DRM is. Once bitten serveral times shy.

[Big Bad Sister]

AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! :D

I hope that this game kicks BioShock 2's butt with pure awesomeness!

[janissary12]

Wow @ all the nerd rage. My take on it is:

1. It's a video game, love it if you're gonna love it, don't if you don't, but cut the anger...it's foolish.
2. They can call it BioShock if they bloody well want to...you make the game? No?? Silence, you dope.
3. I'm sure they have the fans' best interests (along with the desire for it to do well...you know...to make money) at heart.
4. They haven't released anything other than a teaser trailer and a bit of info.
5. People cry and moan when another game is 'still in rapture' and now that they try something different, they cry and moan.

Hey, who let in the adult??? :confused: ;)

hehehe, "nerd rage", heheheehee

j12

[I-ChooseTheImpossible]

JUST because it has the name BIOSHOCK in it does NOT mean it a BIOSHOCK GAME.

Just because the city it takes place in is EXPERIENCE a "bioshock" DOES NOT MAKE IT A BIOSHOCK GAME.


So how about we start a new trend: Let's make an onslaught of games.

Like a new Halo game.
Only, there are no Spartans. And it takes place under water. In a diving suit.
You can't say it's not a Halo game because it has the name HALO in it.

How about Legend of Zelda?
Only you don't play a nameless leading male character in green tights rescuing a princess and land from a giant pig. You're an elderly farmer.
And it doesn't take place in good ol' pre-cultural times. It takes place in New York.
Don't try saying it's NOT LoZ, because it has it in the title C:

Now, a new Mario World game.
Only this Mario wears blue denim overalls and has flowing, long, blond hair.
Your main protagonist isn't a giant turtle, though, THAT'S OLD AND BORING.
It's a teddy bear c:

And now Final Fantasy IVVVVVIIIIWWX!
You're an intern for a lawyer.
IT'S STILL FINAL FANTASY, HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE.


ETA:
However, I MUST say. This game does look great, fantastic maybe. JUST DON'T CALL IT SOMETHING IT'S CLEARLY NOT. It looks more like a poor excuse for getting easy marketing.
Don't. Call it. BIOSHOCK.

In Halo 3: ODST there are no Spartans yet it's still a Halo game, don't even go their with Zelda or you shall feel me un yielding wrath. Now as for Mario wearing blue overalls they look pretty blue to me already going be THIS (http://www.freewebs.com/malibujew2/new-super-mario-bros-200505150053412890.jpg) picture.

LOL its just like the XCOM forums now with some people screaming about how it isn't BioShock and some people screaming about how its called BioShock so it must be a BioShock game.

[Dr.Hollcroft]

Quote: "We will be reborn"
Its seriously true. Rapture has reborn in sky in Bioshock Infinite.
When Ken Levine and name "Irrational Games" has attached to this game, it can't fail.

[LittleSisterSaviour]

THIS is the Real "Bioshock 2", Im sorry 2k i just didnt think your take on Rapture was very good

Dont be mad at me i still love you, Its just Levine has been working 3 years so far and its nowhere near done, JUST THINK HOW GREAT IT IS GONNA BE!

[Daidoji_Tangen]

JUST because it has the name BIOSHOCK in it does NOT mean it a BIOSHOCK GAME.

Just because the city it takes place in is EXPERIENCE a "bioshock" DOES NOT MAKE IT A BIOSHOCK GAME.


So how about we start a new trend: Let's make an onslaught of games.

Like a new Halo game.
Only, there are no Spartans. And it takes place under water. In a diving suit.
You can't say it's not a Halo game because it has the name HALO in it.

How about Legend of Zelda?
Only you don't play a nameless leading male character in green tights rescuing a princess and land from a giant pig. You're an elderly farmer.
And it doesn't take place in good ol' pre-cultural times. It takes place in New York.
Don't try saying it's NOT LoZ, because it has it in the title C:

Now, a new Mario World game.
Only this Mario wears blue denim overalls and has flowing, long, blond hair.
Your main protagonist isn't a giant turtle, though, THAT'S OLD AND BORING.
It's a teddy bear c:

And now Final Fantasy IVVVVVIIIIWWX!
You're an intern for a lawyer.
IT'S STILL FINAL FANTASY, HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE.


ETA:
However, I MUST say. This game does look great, fantastic maybe. JUST DON'T CALL IT SOMETHING IT'S CLEARLY NOT. It looks more like a poor excuse for getting easy marketing.
Don't. Call it. BIOSHOCK.


I love how three out of four (possibly all four, I never really played Halo) all have drastically changed the setting.

Link has had several games outside of Hyrule. Windwaker had a vastly different Hyrule than any other game.

Mario Galaxy is vastly different than New Super Mario Brothers Wii.

And every FF game takes place in a different universe, much less land.

The "changes" you give as an example are an unfair comparison. Of course, Columbia is nowhere near the change you seem to think it is.

A fallen utopia founded on unsettling ideas that is filled with crazy people with powers. A land removed from the rest of the world. Your choices affecting the outcome. Sounds pretty Bioshockish to me.

[iPomegranate]

Quote: "We will be reborn"
Its seriously true. Rapture has reborn in sky in Bioshock Infinite.
When Ken Levine and name "Irrational Games" has attached to this game, it can't fail.
Ken Levine CAN'T FAIL. Period. And honestly, people stop judging it, have you seen gameplay footage? No. You've seen the launch trailer. I'm pretty sure this is what the SystemShock 2 people thought about BioShock :P

[janissary12]

Quote: "We will be reborn"
Its seriously true. Rapture has reborn in sky in Bioshock Infinite.
When Ken Levine and name "Irrational Games" has attached to this game, it can't fail.
Having just watched a 6 minute video on the history of IG, I think you'll find that is NOT true.

However, Mr. Levine has all my confidence: I think he was born to make Bioshock.

[janissary12]

Sounds pretty Bioshockish to me.
I'm literally ENRAGED with RAGE over THIS!!! We must make a f%&*@#ing decision!!!!:

Is it:


Bioshockish;
Bioshockesque;
or Bioshockoid?
Ken Levine, clear this up now or suffer my wrathful wrath! (And yes, I'm taking the piss on certain posters here.....)

[Big Bad Sister]

I'm happy because this game proves that Ken Levine has not abandoned BioShock, his most successful brainchild! :)

As an inside joke, Blade_Runner, your wish has been fulfilled. ;)

[Adam Addict L]

AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! :D

I hope that this game kicks BioShock 2's butt with pure awesomeness!

As awesome as this game looks...I hope not...I love Bioshock 2 :(


Quote: "We will be reborn"
Its seriously true. Rapture has reborn in sky in Bioshock Infinite.
When Ken Levine and name "Irrational Games" has attached to this game, it can't fail.

You forget...the whole quote is ''We will be reborn IN THE WOMB OF THE OCEAN'' ;)


THIS is the Real "Bioshock 2", Im sorry 2k i just didnt think your take on Rapture was very good

Really? Then you forget...2K was partly responsible for Bioshock 1...as seen by evidence here:http://www.hifigeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bioshock_2.png ....gee...wonder whose logo THAT is in the corner there ;)

[Zest]

You can vent all you like, but kids,

That boat has sailed.

Obnoxious text is an obnoxious size.
Bioshock 2 was released with the title "Bioshock: Sea of Dreams" but that changed.

So don't *** at me with your obnoxious text like you're the "bigger" person. (It makes it more of a fail.)

And I'd like to say in regards to some *other* posts that I always thought the idea of Bioshock outside of Rapture was retarded.

I am NOT saying this game looks like a bad idea, I'm saying it CALLING it by a name that's all ready been taken by a VERY successful franchise IS A BAD IDEA.

Jesus flkajdslkj Christ.

Again, whose up for a Spartanless Halo taking place under water and a Denim Abercrombie Model Mario? C:
I KNOW I AKDFJASKJ AM.

[Dr.Hollcroft]

Ken Levine CAN'T FAIL. Period. And honestly, people stop judging it, have you seen gameplay footage? No. You've seen the launch trailer. I'm pretty sure this is what the SystemShock 2 people thought about BioShock :P

After Ken has been in making System Shock 2 and Bioshock 1, he has gained my homage, he is talented in this business, and i know it will work even this time, after these two examples: First future and outer space, then middle 20th century and bottom of the ocean and now the beginning of 20th century and the sky.

After Ken wasn't in Bioshock 2 look what we have, overpraised sequel with strange story.

[Big Bad Sister]

As awesome as this game looks...I hope not...I love Bioshock 2 :(Wow, now you sound even worse than those parasites who b*tch about BioShock 2's existence! :rolleyes:

[october_midnight]

This video game is definitely worth getting mad over.

[Adam Addict L]

with strange story.

I don't think the story was strange at all


Wow, now you sound even worse than those parasites who b*tch about BioShock 2's existence! :rolleyes:

What can I say? I do love Bioshock 2,I'm playing it almost as much now as I have Bioshock 1 :D

[Pepsi]

2 years away, seriously 2K. Why did you announce it so early?

[LittleSisterSaviour]

Really? Then you forget...2K was partly responsible for Bioshock 1...as seen by evidence here:http://www.hifigeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bioshock_2.png ....gee...wonder whose logo THAT is in the corner there ;)

Yes but Bioshock 2 Wasnt made by Irrational, So it fell short of the mark when it came out and didnt live up to my expectations, Still good just upset because it could of been so much more.

[Eleanor-Lamb]

2 years away, seriously 2K. Why did you announce it so early?

They want the anticipation to build, and Make money out of swag! :p

[LittleSisterSaviour]

2 years away, seriously 2K. Why did you announce it so early?

Why not announce it?, Plus many companies are doing this

MGS:Rising
Arkham City (AKA Arkham Asylum 2)
ectt

Plus he said on a blog hes going to be giving steady information through the months and some gameplay real soon!

[Big Bad Sister]

What can I say? I do love Bioshock 2,I'm playing it almost as much now as I have Bioshock 1 :DAdam Addict L, do you honestly want BioShock 2 to be the apex of 2K's achievement? Really? :rolleyes:

[Little Daddy]

will there be a sequel where you play as one of those big things with the hearts

[TheEpicFish]

I'm probably gonna pre-order this. Hope it doesn't bomb.

:o

[Adam Addict L]

Yes but Bioshock 2 Wasnt made by Irrational, So it fell short of the mark when it came out and didnt live up to my expectations, Still good just upset because it could of been so much more.

Your arguement doesn't really stand though...because Bioshock 1 is partly 2K's original ''take'' on Rapture...though I suppose you coula argue that 2K MARIN's take on Rapture wasn't very good... even though I would disagree with you :p ..but yea


Adam Addict L, do you honestly want BioShock 2 to be the apex of 2K's achievement? Really? :rolleyes:

I didn't say that,I just said I loved the game...but hey...if this new ''Bioshock'' does blow Bioshock 2 out of the water...then there's nothing I can do about it,reguardless of how I feel

[Nastadon]

Not sure what to think of this yet, I know I will probably love it, but I don't know so much about the name. Something about BioShock taking place in the air... Plus Ryan building a city underwater was a great story, now we're to believe there is a floating city with same types of people and creatures? Makes the whole first game seem pointless and unoriginal if someone had done the idea before Ryan...

or if Ryan was behind this too and he was an alien sent from space to make new civilizations in places people have never lived in before. He's a robot alien thing sent from the future world when System Shock takes place. Which is how he had the technology in early 1900's to build a floating city, and then later on build Rapture. Calling it. Hopefully not...

[LittleSisterSaviour]

Your arguement doesn't really stand though...because Bioshock 1 is partly 2K's original ''take'' on Rapture...though I suppose you coula argue that 2K MARIN's take on Rapture wasn't very good... even though I would disagree with you :p ..but yea



Lol You know what i mean, Stop making me look stoooopid (Mispelling was on purpose
:p

[Dr.Hollcroft]

In my opinion about Bioshock 1 and 2

Bioshock 1: Playing as human was more groovy, and using regular weapons functioning similar way to real worlds ones and realistic weapon upgrades. Interesting story and good characters

Bioshock 2: You play as the toughest characters in whole game series (like Bear would steal candy from human child) Weapons are soooooooo far-fetched and akward. No more Tenenbaum and little Ryan and Fontaine. Now fanatics have taken over Rapture and they are guided by lunatic woman. Also when Delta is hurt by enemies, i can clearly see that Jack was more tougher than Delta, and that earbreaking noise from his diving mask when he is struck by bullets or melee weapons. First 3 levels were good, but after those, they were boring.

[Big Bad Sister]

I didn't say that,I just said I loved the game...but hey...if this new ''Bioshock'' does blow Bioshock 2 out of the water...then there's nothing I can do about it,reguardless of how I feelGood, because I was actually convinced that you'd become another whiny parasite who sucks the creativity from promising artists. :rolleyes:

[Adam Addict L]

IFirst 3 levels were good, but after those, they were boring.

awww,I liked Dionysis Park...still do,it's my favorite level :(

[Nastadon]

First 3 levels were good, but after those, they were boring.Really? Thought last 3(well not the last one... but 3 before that) were awesome compared to the first few.

[RaptureRaven]

Um, so I totally just skipped the countless posts of people complaining. I can only read "This sucks! It's not Bioshock" so many times.

I can only wonder, had BioShock been set in the sky and this game take place at the bottom of the sea what the reactions would be. "It's not Bioshock under the water!"

I admit, I was yelling WTF is this at the screen when the trailer finally loaded. I saw the Big Daddy and was all ooooohing and fangirl squeeeing. I got to the fish tank and closed my laptop. But then I thought "Well, that's kinda cool, I guess" And then I saw infinte(heh) possibilities.

I think it's going to be awesome, even if I am going to be eaten by birds.

[RC1905]

Without reading the previous 37 pages, all I have to say is that trailer was such a tease. Got me all excited to see rapture, then tears my heart out. But im willing to give it a chance. In fact, im sure it will be great. I'll just miss Rapture though.

[iPomegranate]

Its good to have this SITS spark in the forums again :) People responding every minute :D Ahh, I love you 2K and Irrational! *Kisses on forehead*

[bugcatcherjason]

I can't help but to connect Infinite to this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Early_flight_02561u_%282%29.jpg

I'm thinking (for now) it's going to be "big trouble in little utopia" again. Only this time, it's in the sky.

[Big Bad Sister]

Its good to have this SITS spark in the forums again :) People responding every minute :D Ahh, I love you 2K and Irrational! *Kisses on forehead*Yes, perhaps the announcement of this game will cause a long-awaited forum revival! :)

[Nyokou]

I feel like I'm one of the few people here who can actually make the connection between Bioshock 1 and Bioshock: Infinite. The first game takes place in 1960, 14 years after Rapture was first created in 1946. Bioshock: Infinite takes place 34 years before Rapture's creation. It's no secret that Andrew Ryan's vision of Rapture was never fully explored in the first game - where he got his ideas from, the actual construction of Rapture, and the discovery of Adam.

As brilliant as he was, he was only the money behind the brains. With the failure of Columbia it was pretty obvious that Rapture could not exist on land or air, leaving water as the last choice - the impossible - and he did it. There's definitely a story there and I don't think Bioshock: Infinite will explain it, I don't even think it's an actual prequel to Bioshock 1 but the point is... The failure of Columbia was some sort of genetic mutation that gave normal humans great powers, and as we all know (or should know) Bioshock is short for Biological Shock, self explanatory.

The title has absolutely nothing to do with Rapture or Andrew Ryan... it has to do with the concept of genetic enhancements such as Adam that create superhumans. And since Bioshock: Infinite was just recently announced and we have to wait perhaps 2 years for the release of the game, we won't know for sure until then what the genetic enhancement is in that game. Is it Adam? Did the people of Columbia leave no trace of it? Were there cryptic messages left behind that Fontaine had to decode himself? Was the story of the diver just a cover up to conceal the connection between Rapture and Columbia because of the gruesome events that occurred there? Was Rapture really just a repeat of Columbia, history repeating itself?

There are so many questions.

And I definitely recall, long before Bioshock: Infinite was announced... seeing concept art of Rapture taking place in the sky. Columbia could have been Rapture or vice versa. But a city underwater seemed even more impossible than a city in the sky and so we got the first Bioshock underwater... An amazing game and terrific plot that deservedly won numerous awards and many fans all across the world.

And now, when the story is deepening and becoming even wider in perspective, it's just sad to see so many people here fighting and arguing like a bunch of idiots. It's better to be inquisitive and curious rather than defensive and close-minded. I hope you guys give this game a chance... I am really, really looking forward to it.

[RaptureRaven]

2 years away, seriously 2K. Why did you announce it so early?

I know. I'm going to be an old woman by then and forget how to work the 360 and never get to play. :p

[Nastadon]

I can only wonder, had BioShock been set in the sky and this game take place at the bottom of the sea what the reactions would be. "It's not Bioshock under the water!"If it was called AerielShock first and then switched to the ocean than it would be the same thing... but it is just a name, have plenty of time to change it.


Its good to have this SITS spark in the forums again :) People responding every minute :D Ahh, I love you 2K and Irrational! *Kisses on forehead*Yeah it is, forum is awesome when it's like this.

[Big Bad Sister]

Yeah it is, forum is awesome when it's like this.Yes, I actually want to post whenever I log in and not to merely to check up on my roleplay thread in the "Forum Games" section.

At last, the rain has come to these message boards! :D

[Blade_Runner]

I feel like I'm one of the few people here who can actually make the connection between Bioshock 1 and Bioshock: Infinite. The first game takes place in 1960, 14 years after Rapture was first created in 1946. Bioshock: Infinite takes place 34 years before Rapture's creation. It's no secret that Andrew Ryan's vision of Rapture was never fully explored in the first game - where he got his ideas from, the actual construction of Rapture, and the discovery of Adam.

As brilliant as he was, he was only the money behind the brains. With the failure of Columbia it was pretty obvious that Rapture could not exist on land or air, leaving water as the last choice - the impossible - and he did it. There's definitely a story there and I don't think Bioshock: Infinite will explain it, I don't even think it's an actual prequel to Bioshock 1 but the point is... The failure of Columbia was some sort of genetic mutation that gave normal humans great powers, and as we all know (or should know) Bioshock is short for Biological Shock, self explanatory.

The title has absolutely nothing to do with Rapture or Andrew Ryan... it has to do with the concept of genetic enhancements such as Adam that create superhumans. And since Bioshock: Infinite was just recently announced and we have to wait perhaps 2 years for the release of the game, we won't know for sure until then what the genetic enhancement is in that game. Is it Adam? Did the people of Columbia leave no trace of it? Were there cryptic messages left behind that Fontaine had to decode himself? Was the story of the diver just a cover up to conceal the connection between Rapture and Columbia because of the gruesome events that occurred there? Was Rapture really just a repeat of Columbia, history repeating itself?

There are so many questions.

And I definitely recall, long before Bioshock: Infinite was announced... seeing concept art of Rapture taking place in the sky. Columbia could have been Rapture or vice versa. But a city underwater seemed even more impossible than a city in the sky and so we got the first Bioshock underwater... An amazing game and terrific plot that deservedly won numerous awards and many fans all across the world.

And now, when the story is deepening and becoming even wider in perspective, it's just sad to see so many people here fighting and arguing like a bunch of idiots. It's better to be inquisitive and curious rather than defensive and close-minded. I hope you guys give this game a chance... I am really, really looking forward to it.

i agree :D :D


Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.

[Purplehedgehog1]

Well Bioshock 2 is coming to a close, they need something to keep us all here! ;)

[Big Bad Sister]

Damn, I want YOUR system. >;^)Someone else wrote that BioShock 2 felt like reuniting with your ex. Hopefully, BioShock Infinite will not suffer from that flaw. ;)

On another note, is anyone else glad that Irrational is (finally :rolleyes: ;)) updating the game's engine? W00t! Finally, out with Unreal 2 and in with Unreal 3! :D

[RaptureRaven]

Ooh, and about that swag.....I will be scouring the earth for some!

[Walter lebowski]

i herd in a video interview there would be no connection between BSI and BS1
perhaps i just herd wrong.

even if i was wrong, they still totaly destroyed the survival horror aspect.
it looks like a totaly awsome game, i just think they should have just made it a spritual sucsser rather than tacked the name bioshock on it, but who knows, i gess it could end up being very simmilar to bs1. weve only seen 1 tralier, and its still 2 years away, i just hope it dosent go the way of jason x and be the bullet to the brain of the bioshock franchise

[Nyokou]

On another note, is anyone else glad that Irrational is (finally :rolleyes: ;)) updating the game's engine? W00t! Finally, out with Unreal 2 and in with Unreal 3! :D

I am! xD

I squealed when I read that... it's going to be awesome! :p

[Hero]

can any help me make a poll? i go to new thread, write the title in, description, mark it as a poll, preview it but it doesn't look like one.:confused:

[Eleanor-Lamb]

Ooh, and about that swag.....I will be scouring the earth for some!

Won't we all! ;)

[venom11]

first of all addict L and others you can't say this isn't bioshock! some even say that if they make another bioshock they shouldn't place it in Raputre. it has Bioshock atmosphere and we have only this teaser triler where we don't know anything about it. just a little yes(no BD,LS,rapture,splicers etc etc). we need more informations so we can say this is a other game from bioshock series but it's not truly a bioshock. yes i do agree a little bit that bioshock without rapture isn't bioshock but that doesn't mean anything. this is a game with genetic shocking but not in that way as Bioshock 1&2 had. if they make another name and name it i dunno Aeroswift and there is genetic shocking we will say: OH come on guys this is the same as BS1&2 but with a another name! so chill out and wait!

be cool! it's a game and Levine is working on it! our "Big Daddy"! :D

P.S. now we need a cult of columbia page! lol :D

[jdjrokr]

NEW TITLE NEEDED
I think adding having Bioshock exactly 100 years before the release date due to the initial impact of the game... Either way Its gonna be epic. Please enhance graphics and multiplayer ::::::PPPPPPP

[Vraiment]

No Big Daddies, no Rapture, where is Bioshock then? I know we haven't seen the entire game, but the main image when you think about Bioshock is a Bouncer or Plasmids, without them... well... what about have named the game something like "Parallel Bioshock" or something like that?

[Big Bad Sister]

No Big Daddies, no Rapture, where is Bioshock then? I know we haven't seen the entire game, but the main image when you think about Bioshock is a Bouncer or Plasmids, without them... well... what about have named the game something like "Parallel Bioshock" or something like that?Did Andrew Ryan build Rapture to have Big Daddies, splicers, or plasmids?

Yes, that's a rhetorical question.

[Blade_Runner]

No Big Daddies, no Rapture, where is Bioshock then? I know we haven't seen the entire game, but the main image when you think about Bioshock is a Bouncer or Plasmids, without them... well... what about have named the game something like "Parallel Bioshock" or something like that?

does anyone read this?


Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.

[Vallanthaz]

Did anyone notice the sounds the Big Daddy'ish creature in the trailer made?

From those sounds, and what little we saw of it, it looks like it's some kind of Clockwork creature, instead of Organic.

Very interesting!

[venom11]

No Big Daddies, no Rapture, where is Bioshock then? I know we haven't seen the entire game, but the main image when you think about Bioshock is a Bouncer or Plasmids, without them... well... what about have named the game something like "Parallel Bioshock" or something like that?

yeah but that's not the point! the main bioshock thing is morality and levine said that is continuing in BSI. bioshock is all about that. those other things as mentioned above were just the things with which you represent that. if they make something like that it's going to have a huge success!


EDIT:
btw i need to say this but i thing columbia is a horrible name for a utopia if columbia is a utopia! :D

[Mr.Plum]

From those sounds, and what little we saw of it, it looks like it's some kind of Clockwork creature, instead of Organic.


It has to be somewhat organic, it has a heart for a head!

[RC1905]

I think people are just having a hard time leaving the world they fell in love with. We will all miss Rapture, but im sure Columbia will be great too.

[RC1905]

It has to be somewhat organic, it has a heart for a head!

Yeah, that was weird.

[Blade_Runner]

It has to be somewhat organic, it has a heart for a head!

no, it has a heart on its chest, we didn't see its head

[LittleSisterSaviour]

It has to be somewhat organic, it has a heart for a head!

Nope, Thats the middle, If you look closely you can make out the shadow of the head

Also read the interviews they say that it has an actual head

[Mr.Plum]

Nope, Thats the middle, If you look closely you can make out the shadow of the head

Also read the interviews they say that it has an actual head

Oh sorry. But my point still stands.

[Big Bad Sister]

I think people are just having a hard time leaving the world they fell in love with. We will all miss Rapture, but im sure Columbia will be great too.I, for one, am rather weary of Rapture. It's time to go somewhere else for a change.

[Invader]

Now, honestly, I think I'll love this game to death. It still (and I'd hate to beat a dead horse) seems like they should have picked a new "Shock" name.


THINGS I'D CHANGE ABOUT BSI BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR:

-Change the name

-Give Elizabeth (the character in the game) a breast reduction. God, how sterotypical and nerdy does it get?

That's all for now...

[venom11]

I, for one, am rather weary of Rapture. It's time to go somewhere else for a change.

well thank you to share my opinion! :D read my two big posts.
rapture was great and i don't want to say goodbye to it. maybe 2k marin is making something with it. i want BS3 and BSI and that 2k president or wathever said we're getting BS3 but when they release BS movie

[Nyokou]

The end of Bioshock 2 was a great ending for Rapture in my opinion.

As we saw with Sofia Lamb, there will always be someone in Rapture trying to control the splicers and try to rebuild Rapture but it's always going to be a failure. Eventually, everyone down there is going to die and the ocean will take care of the rest. Rapture is over.

[Adam Addict L]

I, for one, am rather weary of Rapture.

I'm not :( I mean...I would NOT mind going somewhere else...but Rapture has so much un-tapped potential...


Rapture is over.

To me,until we actually SEE Rapture's final destruction,it's NOT over

[RC1905]

-Give Elizabeth (the character in the game) a breast reduction. God, how sterotypical and nerdy does it get?

hahaha I thought the same thing when I saw her in the trailer the third or so time around.

[venom11]

Now, honestly, I think I'll love this game to death. It still (and I'd hate to beat a dead horse) seems like they should have picked a new "Shock" name.


THINGS I'D CHANGE ABOUT BSI BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR:

-Change the name

-Give Elizabeth (the character in the game) a breast reduction. God, how sterotypical and nerdy does it get?

That's all for now...

no they don't need to change the name. bioshock games can be a series of games were morality and something about genetic stuff are in the first place.
and about in-game Liz's tits...leave them "alone"! :D

[Mr.Plum]

I'm not :( I mean...I would NOT mind going somewhere else...but Rapture has so much un-tapped potential...

Very true, but a band new city (in the sky) has even more potential.

[Blade_Runner]

im going to miss Rapture as well. i wish we could have seen the rest of the city or at least a map of the city to know where each district corresponds with one another. i wish i could have interracted with characters like Bill McDonagh, or Diane McClintock, and most of all, Mark Meltzer


Rapture
"No gods or kings,
only Man"
2007-20??
(1946-1959
1960-1968
1968-????)

[Big Bad Sister]

I'm not :( I mean...I would NOT mind going somewhere else...but Rapture has so much un-tapped potential...Well, then, we can return to Rapture after BioShock Infinite, in BioShock 3! Happy?

Face it: BioShock 3 is not going to come out for several years. Until then, you'll have to occupy yourself with BioShock Infinite.

[venom11]

im going to miss Rapture as well. i wish we could have seen the rest of the city or at least a map of the city to know where each district corresponds with one another. i wish i could have interracted with characters like Bill McDonagh, or Diane McClintock, and most of all, Mark Meltzer


Rapture
"No gods or kings,
only Man"
2007-2010
(1946-1968)

no no no no no! we are not over with Rapture! we have BS3 on our way! :D


EDIT:

everybody needs some changes! come on guys it's kevin levine! :D

[Blade_Runner]

no no no no no! we are not over with Rapture! we have BS3 on our way! :D


lemme edit then

[Adam Addict L]

and about in-game Liz's tits...leave them "alone"! :D

I love how you said ''in-game Liz's'' like it's 2K Liz in a video game lol :p

[RaptureRaven]

EDIT:
btw i need to say this but i thing columbia is a horrible name for a utopia if columbia is a utopia! :D


I have to agree. Columbia just didn't grab me. I hear Columbia and I think drug lords :p

[Nyokou]

To me,until we actually SEE Rapture's final destruction,it's NOT over

I'm not interested in playing a game that involves blowing up and destroying Rapture. That's just stupid.

[Adam Addict L]

I'm not interested in playing a game that involves blowing up and destroying Rapture. That's just stupid.

don't play such a game then,but I truly believe that's how Rapture needs to go out,whether it be in the Minerva's Den DLC for Bioshock 2,or Bioshock 3 when/if it comes

[Rybow73]

I'm not interested in playing a game that involves blowing up and destroying Rapture. That's just stupid.

I agree.

Rapture was great...I love it dearly, but we don't want them to suck the wonder dry. Leave it as is...a city that can no longer be grand...a city that has met the end...a city that we've been there and done that.

A game doesn't need to show how everything turns out. A game can do just as well with the player forming their own conclusions.

[venom11]

I'm not interested in playing a game that involves blowing up and destroying Rapture. That's just stupid.

it sure is! we (well i want) to explore rapture for some more and see where tenenbaum is!


I love how you said ''in-game Liz's'' like it's 2K Liz in a video game lol :p

i don't want our liz to be offended :p lol


I have to agree. Columbia just didn't grab me. I hear Columbia and I think drug lords :p

same here. and it's to much patriotic. it should be something like Kevin Levine's Flying Geneticly Modified Circus! :D jk
i need to think for more responsilbe name and it's almost 4am here.



I agree.

Rapture was great...I love it dearly, but we don't want them to suck the wonder dry. Leave it as is...a city that can no longer be grand...a city that has met the end...a city that we've been there and done that.

A game doesn't need to show how everything turns out. A game can do just as well with the player forming their own conclusions.

you sure are a great guy Ry. this is very good. it gives more misteryous way to rapture

[Invader]

and about in-game Liz's tits...leave them "alone"! :D

This reminds me of some of those posts in the "How to make BioShock 3 more Mainstream" thread, where someone who I can't remember the name of was listing things that would ruin the uniqueness of BioShock that are present in just about all other FPSes. One of the things the guy said was "Give all females DD breasts". Yeah. I wish Irrational didn't do that.

[IllusionOfLife]

Aw, I hate that I'm working today. I managed to get up to page 19 on my lunch break but i wanted to say something before I go back to work: I regret saying what I did about Irrational.

Now I still stand by what I said, I'm irritated that it seems as if Ken and Irrational are using the name to declare this game as the "true" sequel to BioShock, but aside from that annoyance this game looks bloody fantastic! I mean seriously guys. This is starting to sound like the XCOM forums and a lot of the people complaining here are the same people who dfended 2K in that forum. I mean reall guys, don't pass on what looks like a great gam just because the project lead is being arrogant.

I know it's still years away but if the game continues to look this good for the rest of these two years until release it'll be a day one buy for me. The name stinks but it's really just a name.

[Seasick]

I can already see a creepy scene:

Yoy walk into a Marketplace, the food is rotting, and there are horse carcasses and rusted bikes in the streets. You approach a woman singing, 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow' to a baby wrapped in a blue blanket. The Woman has a bonnet on her head and she's wearing a blue dress with flowers on it. She's bear foot. As you get closer, she will sing the song more aggresivly, and rock the baby quicker and more violently. If you go further away, she will settle back down to a calm non threatening tone. She is sitting near a window, and she's slouched against a wall. If you get too close, she will throw the baby at you 'which was just a wooden toy, with a broken right jaw, meaning it's mouth is dangling by the left side of the jaw' It has no eyeballs, and a triangle for a nose. The woman will get up, her face deformed, like scars across her right cheek. She has no pupils. She will pick up a double barrel shotgun and begin firing at you.



What do you guys think of my disturbing scene?

[Big Bad Sister]

Now I still stand by what I said, I'm irritated that it seems as if Ken and Irrational are using the name to declare this game as the "true" sequel to BioShock, but aside from that annoyance this game looks bloody fantastic! I mean seriously guys. This is starting to sound like the XCOM forums and a lot of the people complaining here are the same people who dfended 2K in that forum. I mean reall guys, don't pass on what looks like a great gam just because the project lead is being arrogant.What makes you think that Ken Levine/Irrational Games is trying to make this game the "'true' sequel" to BioShock? For the umpteenth time, it's a freakin' prequel, not a sequel!

Yeesh, what is with people and their hatred of prequels? :rolleyes:

And I really wouldn't speculate about a game developer's motives before we even know diddly**** about the game. Because doing so is just foolish.

[coffee009]

Bioshock belongs underwater.

[Fialvert]

Prequel? What? There was no notion of a prequel, not from what I saw.

[Blade_Runner]

Prequel? What? There was no notion of a prequel, not from what I saw.

it gives you a feeling of the old fashioned World Fair from the turn of the century


Prequel? What? There was no notion of a prequel, not from what I saw.

it takes place 30 years before Raptre was built

[Seasick]

Prequel? What? There was no notion of a prequel, not from what I saw.

Bioshock Infinite takes place in 1912....

[brendensavi]

Give Elizabeth (the character in the game) a breast reduction. God, how sterotypical and nerdy does it get?

Well, she is wearing a corset. Those will certainly give you some oomph :p

[GetGAME]

Please hear me out when I say this, but I didn't want to start another thread about this.

It really appears to me that this may seem more like a pretty big 'Eff you' to 2K Marin. Kevin was rumored to be upset about the direction of BioShock and may (or may not) have been one of the reasons he left. He did mention in an interview that he left on good terms, but that BioShock was now in the hands of 2K Marin and that it was 'their game now'.

So, naming this game 'BioShock Infinite' seems to be a pretty nice blow to 2K, especially naming it in the BioShock series. I'm not really upset, but coming to the Cult of Rapture and 2K's forums, it seems that this announcement has blindsided the team here a bit.

I'd almost ask Liz' impressions on this, but I'm not sure that now would be a good time to ask. Maybe when the dust settles.

Thoughts?

[Fialvert]

Well, prequels add to the backstory and supplement earlier installments. It isn't really a prequel, not yet.

[Big Bad Sister]

Prequel? What? There was no notion of a prequel, not from what I saw.This game is set in the 1910s. BioShock is set in 1960. BioShock 2 is set in 1968. BioShock is the original game, making BioShock 2 its sequel and BioShock Infinite its prequel.

[Blade_Runner]

i wonder where they get there powers from?

[cxa117]

This isn't Bioshock to me. Bioshock is Rapture, dark, gloomy, and under the ocean, with Big Daddies.

This is all bright and stuff, and no Big Daddy. To me, this is like calling a dog a cat. :( :(

[Big Bad Sister]

Please hear me out when I say this, but I didn't want to start another thread about this.

It really appears to me that this may seem more like a pretty big 'Eff you' to 2K Marin. Kevin was rumored to be upset about the direction of BioShock and may (or may not) have been one of the reasons he left. He did mention in an interview that he left on good terms, but that BioShock was now in the hands of 2K Marin and that it was 'their game now'.

So, naming this game 'BioShock Infinite' seems to be a pretty nice blow to 2K, especially naming it in the BioShock series. I'm not really upset, but coming to the Cult of Rapture and 2K's forums, it seems that this announcement has blindsided the team here a bit.

I'd almost ask Liz' impressions on this, but I'm not sure that now would be a good time to ask. Maybe when the dust settles.

Thoughts?Let me be honest: you sound as idiotic as the Irrational fanboys who believe that BioShock 2 is BioShock's illegitimate child because 2K "ripped" the BioShock franchise out of Ken Levine's hands.

Man, I am sick to death of the fanboys of both BioShock AND BioShock 2!

[I-ChooseTheImpossible]

This trailer seemed pretty familiar to me besides the obvious things like the Big Daddyesque enemy, I just now realised what it reminded me of, the Sky Temple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a20olYe3WO4) from Twilight Princess.

[Invader]

Please hear me out when I say this, but I didn't want to start another thread about this.

It really appears to me that this may seem more like a pretty big 'Eff you' to 2K Marin. Kevin was rumored to be upset about the direction of BioShock and may (or may not) have been one of the reasons he left. He did mention in an interview that he left on good terms, but that BioShock was now in the hands of 2K Marin and that it was 'their game now'.

So, naming this game 'BioShock Infinite' seems to be a pretty nice blow to 2K, especially naming it in the BioShock series. I'm not really upset, but coming to the Cult of Rapture and 2K's forums, it seems that this announcement has blindsided the team here a bit.

I'd almost ask Liz' impressions on this, but I'm not sure that now would be a good time to ask. Maybe when the dust settles.

Thoughts?

I asked Liz if they were going to keep making BioShock games set in Rapture, but she didn't know the answer. She didn't seem too blindsided by it, though, but there's only so much you can tell just from text.

[Blade_Runner]

This isn't Bioshock to me. Bioshock is Rapture, dark, gloomy, and under the ocean, with Big Daddies.

This is all bright and stuff, and no Big Daddy. To me, this is like calling a dog a cat. :( :(

Rapture went through a "bioshock". you cant call this game "not Bioshock" for one reason or another its a Bioshock games, thats the fact, you dont have to like it but its not going to change anything

[Blade_Runner]

This trailer seemed pretty familiar to me besides the obvious things like the Big Daddyesque enemy, I just now realised what it reminded me of, the Sky Temple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a20olYe3WO4) from Twilight Princess.

or Sky Town from Metroid Prime 3

[Big Bad Sister]

I asked Liz if they were going to keep making BioShock games set in Rapture, but she didn't know the answer. She didn't seem too blindsided by it, though, but there's only so much you can tell just from text.I believe that 2K Marin plans NOT to develop BioShock 3, just as Irrational chose not to develop BioShock 2. BioShock takes a lot out of you, and you need a break after developing a BioShock game.

[RC1905]

Im not to sure about the name Columbia either. It doesn't really sound as powerful as Rapture.

[Seasick]

Please hear me out when I say this, but I didn't want to start another thread about this.

It really appears to me that this may seem more like a pretty big 'Eff you' to 2K Marin. Kevin was rumored to be upset about the direction of BioShock and may (or may not) have been one of the reasons he left. He did mention in an interview that he left on good terms, but that BioShock was now in the hands of 2K Marin and that it was 'their game now'.

So, naming this game 'BioShock Infinite' seems to be a pretty nice blow to 2K, especially naming it in the BioShock series. I'm not really upset, but coming to the Cult of Rapture and 2K's forums, it seems that this announcement has blindsided the team here a bit.

I'd almost ask Liz' impressions on this, but I'm not sure that now would be a good time to ask. Maybe when the dust settles.

Thoughts?

Well, no offense to 2K, But BS2 wasn't as big of a success as Bioshock, and I think Ken thinks no, knows He is the mind of Bioshock. If there is a bioshock title not made by him will not be as succesful as one that he is involved in. I am in no way saying BS2 blows... But it isn't as good story wise as Bioshock 1. In my opinion, BS2 was.....for lack of a better word, predictable. It has little to no twist at all. However, i'm not saying Mr. Levine is GOD either. BS1 had it's fair amount of moments where it wasn't living up to it's potetial (I'm looking at YOU Proving Grounds and Code yelllow!) But, well....Bioshock: Infinite is going to rule. I think it'll be longer, with awesome gameplay, graphics, and story...And so......

Ken Levine is most likely to make Bioshock: Infinite succeed where BS2 was more, well.....Weak.


I'm not trolling, and i'm not hating on anyone. This is just my opinion. And there is no rule against giving my honest opinion.

Sorry if I offended anyone!

[Nyokou]

The unintelligent posts in this thread are so funny. It's like these people don't even know that the word Bioshock has to do with genetic enhancements (Adam). We just don't know what it is in Bioshock: Infinite, not yet. It could be Adam or it could be something completely different. The title has nothing to do with being underwater in Rapture. It's about Adam, Little Sisters, Big Daddies, and Plasmids. The Columbia equivalent of those have not been revealed yet...

[Blade_Runner]

The unintelligent posts in this thread are so funny. It's like these people don't even know that the word Bioshock has to do with genetic enhancements (Adam). We just don't know what it is in Bioshock: Infinite, not yet. It could be Adam or it could be something completely different. The title has nothing to do with being underwater in Rapture. It's about Adam, Little Sisters, Big Daddies, and Plasmids. The Columbia equivalent of those have not been revealed yet...

you mean this?


Nah, I like the idea of

"BIOSHOCK: by-OH-shawk: n to experience societal upheaval when biotech revolution occurs." :eek:


Then the concept can be used in many different settings. Totally valid and MUCH more flexible.

agreed

[Scifiguy]

I'm 90% sure that this isn't Bioshock 3, namely because Ken Levine is on board. Which isn't a bad thing.

To me this looks like a Bioshock spin off, in the same way Bioshock was a System Shock 2 spin off. Most likely unrelated to Bioshock's plot, at least when it comes to storyline.

[Big Bad Sister]

The unintelligent posts in this thread are so funny. It's like these people don't even know that the word Bioshock has to do with genetic enhancements (Adam). We just don't know what it is in Bioshock: Infinite, not yet. It could be Adam or it could be something completely different. The title has nothing to do with being underwater in Rapture. It's about Adam, Little Sisters, Big Daddies, and Plasmids. The Columbia equivalent of those have not been revealed yet...What's even funnier is that these unintelligent posters think that they are so insightful that they are qualified to judge the motives of the developers and to condemn them. It really is "BioShock 2 was a cash cow!" all over again. :rolleyes:

[Blade_Runner]

What's even funnier is that these unintelligent posters think that they are so insightful that they are qualified to judge the motives of the developers and to condemn them. It really is "BioShock 2 was a cash cow!" all over again. :rolleyes:

agreed

the question is is what puts the "bioshock" into Bioshock: Infinite? why is it a Bioshock game?

[Invader]

The unintelligent posts in this thread are so funny. It's like these people don't even know that the word Bioshock has to do with genetic enhancements (Adam). We just don't know what it is in Bioshock: Infinite, not yet. It could be Adam or it could be something completely different. The title has nothing to do with being underwater in Rapture. It's about Adam, Little Sisters, Big Daddies, and Plasmids. The Columbia equivalent of those have not been revealed yet...

We do know. Tonics. Not like in the earlier BioShocks, but that's what it is. Read some of the news on this game, it'll explain a lot. ;)

[Nyokou]

you mean this?
agreed

Yes, I mean that. People going nuts and killing each other with superhuman powers. xD That is what Bioshock is.

@Big Bad Sister: Yeah... they just automatically close their minds. That's how simple minded they are, they don't even try to understand. I hate that kind of arrogance and stubbornness, especially at such an early stage of a game's announcement.

[ExpiredPepBar]

When I first saw the trailer, I felt so familiar and at home with the water gurgling and fish. But when he was suddenly yanked out of the tank( which was pretty cool in my opinion) and it panned up the robo daddy with the heart, I got a little worried. Although the trailer was very stunning, and the slow mo throw out of the window was very beautiful, for some reason it didn't have a Bioshock feel to me. Don't get me wrong, it looks like an amazing game. But everything is so bright, and polished and happy looking, as opposed to the dread, grit and the feeling constant fear in the first 2 bioshocks.
Even so, I'm very excited for this game. It looks like alot of fun. I'm hoping that the colorfulness of the Columbia is just masking some evil, menacing secret.
Also, since the Columbia is constantly floating around the earth as a world fair, would it be possible for Andrew Ryan to board it once it floats above Russia? Amazed by it's feat, Andrew Ryan sets off to build his own underwater...?

[Nyokou]

We do know. Tonics. Not like in the earlier BioShocks, but that's what it is. Read some of the news on this game, it'll explain a lot. ;)

I did. It doesn't explain a lot though. There's too much left out. Sure, they're tonics. But from where? Why? How?

[Big Bad Sister]

@Big Bad Sister: Yeah... they just automatically close their minds. That's how simple minded they are, they don't even try to understand. I hate that kind of arrogance and stubbornness, especially at such an early stage of a game's announcement.I agree. They get so attached to a game, whether it's BioShock 1 or 2 , that, if anyone picks up the franchise and makes a sequel or a prequel, they accuse Jordan Thomas of "stealing Ken Levine's brainchild to make a cash cow" or Ken Levine of "using a prequel to insult Jordan Thomas and 2K." :rolleyes:

[Vraiment]

When I first saw the trailer, I felt so familiar and at home with the water gurgling and fish. But when he was suddenly yanked out of the tank( which was pretty cool in my opinion) and it panned up the robo daddy with the heart, I got a little worried. Although the trailer was very stunning, and the slow mo throw out of the window was very beautiful, for some reason it didn't have a Bioshock feel to me. Don't get me wrong, it looks like an amazing game. But everything is so bright, and polished and happy looking, as opposed to the dread, grit and the feeling constant fear in the first 2 bioshocks.

You right there, that's the whole point about the new tailer

[Invader]

I did. It doesn't explain a lot though. There's too much left out. Sure, they're tonics. But from where? Why? How?


I have a feeling we won't know that 'till launch day...

[RC1905]

I did. It doesn't explain a lot though. There's too much left out. Sure, they're tonics. But from where? Why? How?

Its still early. Im sure we will find out eventually. It comes out in 2 years.

[I Would Kindly]

After seeing some negative and some positive posts I have made my decision. I am a happy camper! :D Although I am skeptical, I do believe Irrational know's what they're doing. After seeing a lot of the ideas that failed to make it into Bioshock I can't wait to see what they do with this! :) As of now, I am happy.

[Nyokou]

After seeing some negative and some positive posts I have made my decision. I am a happy camper! :D Although I am skeptical, I do believe Irrational know's what they're doing. After seeing a lot of the ideas that failed to make it into Bioshock I can't wait to see what they do with this! :) As of now, I am happy.

Little Brothers... :p

[Big Bad Sister]

I do not believe that the superpowers of DeWitt and Elizabeth will be ADAM-based. ADAM is produced by a sea slug that lives at the bottom of the ocean, not in the sky.

[Mr.Plum]

I do not believe that the superpowers of DeWitt and Elizabeth will be ADAM-based. ADAM is produced by a sea slug that lives at the bottom of the ocean, not in the sky.

OMG BREAKTHROUGH! Give youself a nice pat on the back for that one.

[O'Malley de Bough]

I do not believe that the superpowers of DeWitt and Elizabeth will be ADAM-based. ADAM is produced by a sea slug that lives at the bottom of the ocean, not in the sky.

Exactly. I feel like there are many questions that are opened that will test if Bioshock Infinite will be even good.

[Blade_Runner]

I do not believe that the superpowers of DeWitt and Elizabeth will be ADAM-based. ADAM is produced by a sea slug that lives at the bottom of the ocean, not in the sky.

its kind of obvious T_T

[I Would Kindly]

Exactly. I feel like there are many questions that are opened that will test if Bioshock Infinite will be even good.

I will be good. The makers of the original Bioshock are making it. :D I have faith. Don't shoot down my hopes. >.>

[Big Bad Sister]

its kind of obvious T_TActually, it isn't, because, as with so many other things in this game, we don't know. We can only speculate at this point. <_<

Anyway, ADAM was what made BioShock ... well ... BioShock. I wonder: how exactly would BioShock Infinite succeed without it? And whatever they'd use in ADAM's place had better not just be ADAM by a different name. -_-

[O'Malley de Bough]

I will be good. The makers of the original Bioshock are making it. :D I have faith. Don't shoot down my hopes. >.>

Well then I have faith in your faith. I know the Devs are good, but will they make?

[Mr.Plum]

Actually, it isn't, because, as with so many other things in this game, we don't know. We can only speculate at this point. <_<


How isn't it obvious? Speculating that Adam isn't in Bioshock:infinite is one of the most logical assumptions one could make.

[Blade_Runner]

Actually, it isn't, because, as with so many other things in this game, we don't know. We can only speculate at this point. <_<

Anyway, ADAM was what made BioShock ... well ... BioShock. I wonder: how exactly would BioShock Infinite succeed without it? And whatever they'd use in ADAM's place had better not just be ADAM by a different name. -_-

yes that was the cause of the bioshock in Rapture

[Tycho.]

Well. there releaseing the demo video in like 2 weeks, im guessing a couple of questions will be answered when it comes out.

[RC1905]

Well. there releaseing the demo video in like 2 weeks, im guessing a couple of questions will be answered when it comes out.

Where did you hear this?

[I Would Kindly]

I just read the IGN article. 2012!?!?! Idk if I can wait. O_O 20 freaking 12. GAH Maybe it'll come out sooner. Yeah that's it. A Bioshock game that comes out early....yeah...

[RaptureRaven]

Well. there releaseing the demo video in like 2 weeks, im guessing a couple of questions will be answered when it comes out.

And I can not wait. I'm secretly wishing it'd be leaked before then :o

[Mistress Of Fear]

hmm The game actually looks fairly interesting, though I'm sad to not see Rapture but as long as some story elements carry over I'll be happy (story wise at least).

[Big Bad Sister]

How isn't it obvious? Speculating that Adam isn't in Bioshock:infinite is one of the most logical assumptions one could make.Then you wouldn't mind answering my question: what would BioShock Infinite use in place of ADAM (something that is NOT just ADAM by a different name)?

[RC1905]

I just read the IGN article. 2012!?!?! Idk if I can wait. O_O 20 freaking 12. GAH Maybe it'll come out sooner. Yeah that's it. A Bioshock game that comes out early....yeah...

Yeah, it will be a long 2 years :(

[RC1905]

Then you wouldn't mind answering my question: what would BioShock Infinite use in place of ADAM (something that is NOT just ADAM by a different name)?

MAGIC duh :P

[domino29]

Weapons plz?

-Browning 1900, this game just pleads for this weapon.
-Bolt Action Rifle, sure it's kinda ahead of it's time, but so is flying cities.
-Crowbar, upgradable with electric currents for extra death.
-Shotgun, we wont take anything less than two barrels of over modded fury.
-Molotov Cocktail, screams, "F*ck Grenades, we get the job done."

Plasmids? Maybe not as extreme as Plasmids, but at least let us shoot Lightning!

-Electrobolt, to retain awesomeness, let it be the first weapon we get.
-Incinerate, same old snap, fwoosh.
-Telekinesis, an oldie, any good BioShock will have this one. Naturally placed OSK Barrels will abound too.
-Flower Power, The name's a work in progress, but it's obvious that woman (Elizabeth) was using a Plasmid. Either that or TK, but still.... EAT THORNBUSH SPLICER!!!!!!!!!!
-Foggy Day, you can't have a city in the sky withou some fog. Used for blinding enemies.

[ProjectDelta]

Then you wouldn't mind answering my question: what would BioShock Infinite use in place of ADAM (something that is NOT just ADAM by a different name)?

According to an article by IGN, (http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1111864p2.html) "DeWitt peers over the edge to find the crow man dead on a platform below, but he psychically pulls a tonic called Murder of Crows to his hand, takes a gulp, and gains the ability to control the birds. A blood covered raven perches on his hand with pieces of meat still hanging from its beak."

Potions.

[O'Malley de Bough]

I just read the IGN article. 2012!?!?! Idk if I can wait. O_O 20 freaking 12. GAH Maybe it'll come out sooner. Yeah that's it. A Bioshock game that comes out early....yeah...

That's quite a way off. At least I have Starcraft 2 to keep me busy lol

[conantheking]

Yeah, it will be a long 2 years :(

At least in the mean time there will be a new downloadable single player story for Bioshock 2, details have already been confirmed so it isn't a rumour.

[Mr.Plum]

Then you wouldn't mind answering my question: what would BioShock Infinite use in place of ADAM (something that is NOT just ADAM by a different name)?

That's easy. Bioshock: Infinite is a re-imagining of Bioshock. It's like a sequel, but it's not. Bioshock: Infinite doesn't necessarily follow the Bioshock's lore because...well...it's a re-imagining or spiritual successor to Bioshock.

[Tycho.]

And I can not wait. I'm secretly wishing it'd be leaked before then :o

Not happening, IG is serious about the whole secrecy thing.


Apparently the doorway to the room they where holding the event in?


It was like an Airport......

[RC1905]

At least in the mean time there will be a new downloadable single player story for Bioshock 2, details have already been confirmed so it isn't a rumour.

Any news on when that will be released?

[ProjectDelta]

Plasmids? Maybe not as extreme as Plasmids, but at least let us shoot Lightning!


According to the same article...

"DeWitt lands back on solid ground and enters a tavern to an audience that becomes almost immediately violent. What follows is a flood of combat that shows DeWitt psychically disarming characters, blasting them with gunfire, and releasing swarms of crows on a crowd of enemies. The sequence ends with a familiar lightning power used to fry enemies in their boots."

So, yeah. Lightning.

[Blade_Runner]

According to an article by IGN, (http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1111864p2.html) "DeWitt peers over the edge to find the crow man dead on a platform below, but he psychically pulls a tonic called Murder of Crows to his hand, takes a gulp, and gains the ability to control the birds. A blood covered raven perches on his hand with pieces of meat still hanging from its beak."

Potions.

witchcraft!:eek: nah, it just allows you to control the minds of crows, with brain amplification :D like Aqua Man is with the denizens of the ocean:p

[I Would Kindly]

Personally I'm waiting for an animated logo. That's my favorite. The shadow going over the Bioshock logo's making them decay. :) Maybe the flag will rip or something on the logo. :D

[janissary12]

Still good just upset because it could of been so much more.
You think. Or believe. Or fantasize.

It is what it is.

[RaptureRaven]

Not happening, IG is serious about the whole secrecy thing.


Apparently the doorway to the room they where holding the event in?


It was like an Airport......


I know. I honestly think the government needs to hire them :p

[Big Bad Sister]

That's easy. Bioshock: Infinite is a re-imagining of Bioshock. It's like a sequel, but it's not. Bioshock: Infinite doesn't necessarily follow the Bioshock's lore because...well...it's a re-imagining or spiritual successor to Bioshock.So, it's like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, then? And where did you find this information?

[Blade_Runner]

i think its a new Bioshock experience. its not a reimagination of Bioshock, i think the concepts are similar, but i think its a genuinly new idea

[I Would Kindly]

FTRapture! Post THIS (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/story-bioshock-infinite/702803) in your video links area. :)

[Reborn in the Ocean]

Well I think Bioshock Infinite will be a Bioshock Reboot ultimately sure its going to be a Bioshock title but it can just be another story like it happened before Rapture happened and some how if they can link stories Ryan hear about this and thats how he came up with the idea for a city under water :p.

[Mr.Plum]

So, it's like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, then? And where did you find this information?

Bioshock: Infinite coud very well be in Bioshock's universe (not confirmed) but it doesn't have to follow the same rules and constrictions.

The following is posted by Ken Levine in this (http://irrationalgames.com/insider/announcement-from-ken-levine/) article


That’s right, this is a BioShock game.

It’s a sequel.

But it’s also not a sequel.





You will find yourself in a completely new world.

[Nyokou]

The responses to the trailer on YouTube are so much more positive. When I first saw the trailer, I got goosebumps. Sure, the environment in the trailer doesn't look as scary as Rapture's but you have to take other things into consideration. The sun is not always out and shining, imagine what Columbia would be like during a rainstorm or even a snowstorm. There are many powerful natural forces working against the city, not just one like in Rapture (the ocean).

To me, that's really scary. You can also really get a sense of how big things are and how small you are compared to the city. It's like the complete opposite of Rapture but it works just as well in creating a dangerous, metaphorically dark atmosphere. The floating buildings crashing into one another or free-falling to the earth and even the buildings themselves on the inside will probably be more reminiscent of the dark corridors and rooms of Rapture.

That's just my guess. I want to see more though! :p

EDIT: Or, bright and shiny, a large city you'd expect to be full of life and busy is just... Silent. It's a bit apocalyptic sounding but that's probably the idea.

[I Would Kindly]

The responses to the trailer on YouTube are so much more positive. When I first saw the trailer, I got goosebumps. Sure, the environment in the trailer doesn't look as scary as Rapture's but you have to take other things into consideration. The sun is not always out and shining, imagine what Columbia would be like during a rainstorm or even a snowstorm. There are many powerful natural forces working against the city, not just one like in Rapture (the ocean).

To me, that's really scary. You can also really get a sense of how big things are and how small you are compared to the city. It's like the complete opposite of Rapture but it works just as well in creating a dangerous, metaphorically dark atmosphere. The floating buildings crashing into one another or free-falling to the earth and even the buildings themselves on the inside will probably be more reminiscent of the dark corridors and rooms of Rapture.

That's just my guess. I want to see more though! :p

I had the same thoughts! I can see it being very scary. O_O I wanna see you fly over a city. THAT would be cool.

[Big Bad Sister]

Bioshock: Infinite coud very well be in Bioshock's universe (not confirmed) but it doesn't have to follow the same rules and constrictions.

The following is posted by Ken Levine in this (http://irrationalgames.com/insider/announcement-from-ken-levine/) articleSo, it might be an actual prequel, and not merely a spiritual successor.

[RC1905]

The responses to the trailer on YouTube are so much more positive. When I first saw the trailer, I got goosebumps. Sure, the environment in the trailer doesn't look as scary as Rapture's but you have to take other things into consideration. The sun is not always out and shining, imagine what Columbia would be like during a rainstorm or even a snowstorm. There are many powerful natural forces working against the city, not just one like in Rapture (the ocean).

To me, that's really scary. You can also really get a sense of how big things are and how small you are compared to the city. It's like the complete opposite of Rapture but it works just as well in creating a dangerous, metaphorically dark atmosphere. The floating buildings crashing into one another or free-falling to the earth and even the buildings themselves on the inside will probably be more reminiscent of the dark corridors and rooms of Rapture.

That's just my guess. I want to see more though! :p

Excellent points

[Grathius22]

I love the idea of this game... and it looks great! Can't wait for it to come out...

It just feels like it shouldn't be called Bioshock- well... in a certain way it does. It'll have that Shock feel. But... Rapture made Bioshock. 1 and 2.

[Systemaddict]

Ok, seeing as this is a Remake or Reimagination if Bioshock I have only one thing to say:

YOU DON'T FU**ING DO THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE MAIN STORYLINE IS FINISHED!!! YOU DON'T REMAKE SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S DONE!!! NO F**ING WAY!!!

Sorry for all the rage, but even if it ties into the Bioshock-Series, it doesn't make a bit of difference since it doesn't make any sense unless it takes place after Bioshock 2...You know...since FLYING CITIES weren't present before Bioshock.

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[EliteRosie]

I am very intrigued by this man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/kjdaniel/8-12-201011-49-13AM.jpg

I know everyone is saying no Ryan but hmmm.

Also when the lady is luring you in there is some whispering anyone know what she is saying.

Yeah I noticed that too so despite me knowing that my ears would be destroyed by DeWitt's screaming I maxed the volume at that part. It sounded like a bunch of little kids whispering "Help Us", and that got me wondering if there are little sisters or something similar in Columbia. I hope so that would be awesome.

[Grathius22]

... I know the plot.

Tenebaum, being the evil woman that she is... traveled back in time, so she could create her own empire, and triumph over Ryan. She uses this empire to attack Rapture. You, Icarus, must stop her, as all of history would become wrong if Rapture was destroyed.

[janissary12]

everybody needs some changes! come on guys it's kevin levine! :D
Yes!! Ken's brother! Fab! :rolleyes:


I have to agree. Columbia just didn't grab me. I hear Columbia and I think drug lords :p
Learn some history.

[Reborn in the Ocean]

There are probably something similar to Little Sisters in Columbia :p there has got to be and I thought I heard that to, heard whispers just didn't know what exactly. That does look like Ryan or maybe someone similar to Cohen?

[EliteRosie]

yeah also at the very end when the logo pops up someone starts to talk on what sounds like a radio but then it gets interrupted by the ending music. I tried to hear what is says but its so quick I can't understand it. Maybe is someone could slow it down somehow?

[Reborn in the Ocean]

yeah if someone could take the trailer and slow it down at the end and boost that sounds we could probably hear it and same with the whispers just mute all the other background noise and screaming and you can hear what they are saying :p.