Questions for 2K_Jack

[Mafiashock]

No. It's not.


Guess we'll just have to disagree.

What kind of crazy land do you live in where the weather changes every couple of hours every day? Explain to me how you feel it's unrealistic for the weather to stay the same in a full day. Yea I know every now and then weather changes throughout the day but for it to happen on the exact 15 days of Vito's life over a span of 10 years is quite unrealistic.

[Rook24]

What kind of crazy land do you live in where the weather changes every couple of hours every day?

In the UK lol. One minute its raining next the suns out

[Fugue]

the way the weather works in Mafia 2 has nothing to with realism, it's a design decision...

[Mafiashock]

In the UK lol. One minute its raining next the suns out

Every day? There's never a day where it's completely sunny or a day when it rains all day? Like I said I know weather can change throughout the day, it does it where I live too every once in a while. But if you think it's realistic for it to happen on the exact 15 days of Vito's life that we're playing over a span of 10 or so years then you need to get back in touch with reality.

[Fugue]

has been very dry since April in parts of the UK....

[FulcrumX]

has been very dry since April in parts of the UK....

Where the **** do you live? dry since april? maybe if you live in spain, definitley not the U.K


I'm in the U.K and the weather changes every few hours although it does happen on occasion that you get it all sunny or all rainy for an entire day (usually the latter) but not very often at all.

[Fugue]

if someone said the sky was blue would you argue about that as well :rolleyes:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2010/spring.html


Spring rainfall was below normal over almost the whole UK and it was especially dry across East Anglia, the north Midlands and Lancashire, where less than 60% of average was recorded. Provisionally, it was the driest spring since 1984 and ranks twelfth driest in the UK series from 1910. April and May were particularly dry months, with less than 50% of the monthly average rainfall recorded in April over much of England and Wales and in May over parts of western Scotland, central southern England and a broad swathe from East Anglia to Cumbria.

happy now....? :p

[Rook24]

Every day? There's never a day where it's completely sunny or a day when it rains all day? Like I said I know weather can change throughout the day, it does it where I live too every once in a while. But if you think it's realistic for it to happen on the exact 15 days of Vito's life that we're playing over a span of 10 or so years then you need to get back in touch with reality.

Well I dont mean every day. That would be stupid lol

[Mafiashock]

Well I dont mean every day. That would be stupid lol

Yea I know, that's my point. Fulcrum seems to think that it's unrealistic to ride around with it being sunny all day...or raining all day. He seems to think that it's realistic for the weather to change back and forth daily on the exact 15 days we're playing over a 10 year span. It's like me or you randomly picking 15 days over the last 10 years of our life...do you honestly think that every one of those random days would have weather randomly changing every couple of hours? Kind of sounds like the opposite of realism to me.

[FulcrumX]

if someone said the sky was blue would you argue about that as well :rolleyes:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/2010/spring.html



happy now....? :p

uhh it says it was the driest spring, spring is a season not a day. Show me where it says it's been completely dry in the U.K since april.

This morning it was boiling hot, when I went out to walk the dogs it came on heavy rain and now it's dull but not particuarly cold. This my friend is the real world.

and if you picked 15 random days from the last 10 years of my life you'd probably have weather changing every few hours on at least 50% of those days.

[Mafiashock]

uhh it says it was the driest spring, spring is a season not a day. Show me where it says it's been completely dry in the U.K since april.

This morning it was boiling hot, when I went out to walk the dogs it came on heavy rain and now it's dull but not particuarly cold. This my friend is the real world.

and if you picked 15 random days from the last 10 years of my life you'd probably have weather changing every few hours on at least 50% of those days.

In the Uk maybe...not from a major U.S. city though which the game is based on. At this point I've said all I need to say. I'll refer back to your older post...I'm just going to agree to disagree with you.

[FulcrumX]

...I'm just going to agree to disagree with you.

Well done, I suggested that hours ago. Glad you finally caught on.

[Mafiashock]

Well done, I suggested that hours ago. Glad you finally caught on.

:)..............

[Mafiashock]

I'm going to New York for a couple weeks next year. I'm going to be sure to write down how many times the weather randomly changes throughout the day each day that I'm there lmao. If it doesn't go from a sunny day to pouring back to a sunny day within hours every day then I must not be living in the real world.

[PG1]

I live in London and it's been cloudy for 3 days so I'm with Mafiashock still.

[Xardas]

Guys, please keep this thread for questions for 2K Jack ONLY. If you want to debate about something said here and there's not a thread for it made already, then make a new one. I'd hate to be the one who has to answer these questions because he'll have to wade through 50 pages of discussion to get to the questions.

[FulcrumX]

I'm going to New York for a couple weeks next year. I'm going to be sure to write down how many times the weather randomly changes throughout the day each day that I'm there lmao. If it doesn't go from a sunny day to pouring back to a sunny day within hours every day then I must not be living in the real world.

Wait, I could have sworn you just said....



...I'm just going to agree to disagree with you.


And yet, you're still talking.

[Mafiashock]

Wait, I could have sworn you just said....





And yet, you're still talking.

I wasn't talking to you though. I said I'm done arguing with you about the topic not talking about it in general.

[Fugue]

uhh it says it was the driest spring, spring is a season not a day. Show me where it says it's been completely dry in the U.K since april.

This morning it was boiling hot, when I went out to walk the dogs it came on heavy rain and now it's dull but not particuarly cold. This my friend is the real world.

and if you picked 15 random days from the last 10 years of my life you'd probably have weather changing every few hours on at least 50% of those days.

I didn't say it had been completely dry, I said it been very dry since April, you said not in the UK, but the met office says otherwise.....

sky is blue :rolleyes:

[FulcrumX]

I didn't say it had been completely dry, I said it been very dry since April, you said not in the UK, but the met office says otherwise.....

sky is blue :rolleyes:

"very dry" isn't the same as "it has never rained". Which is my point. Weather changes, at least where I'm from about every few hours. It's very rare that for 24 entire hours it is muggy/humid or raining or cold or whatever.



I wasn't talking to you though. I said I'm done arguing with you about the topic not talking about it in general.

You were clearly replying to my comment about living in the real world.

[Mafiashock]

"very dry" isn't the same as "it has never rained". Which is my point. Weather changes, at least where I'm from about every few hours. It's very rare that for 24 entire hours it is muggy/humid or raining or cold or whatever.




You were clearly replying to my comment about living in the real world.

I still wasn't talking to you :) I stopped the argument on the topic between us but I'm still going to comment on the absurdity of the subject. You've already shown how closed minded you are about this so there's really no point in going any further with you about weather in a video game lol.

[FulcrumX]

I still wasn't talking to you :) I stopped the argument on the topic between us but I'm still going to comment on the absurdity of the subject. You've already shown how closed minded you are about this so there's really no point in going any further with you about weather in a video game lol.

closed minded? How exactly can pointing out a flaw (or suggestion for an improvement) of a game be regarded as closed minded? Because I don't automatically agree with you I'm closed minded?





"weather changes sometimes"

ZOMG YOU HEATHEN! INFIDEL! You're so closed minded!!!!"




"weather stays the exact same for days"

yeah, you're so open minded and wonderful.




G.T.F.O

[Mafiashock]

I don't think Jack will be coming back to this :D It's my fault really for filling the thread up with pages of nonsense and useless arguments. The game is done...nothing is going to change no matter how many people complain.

[FulcrumX]

The game is done...nothing is going to change no matter how many people complain.

I never said it was going to change. Jesus, what about all these flaws people point out on GTA? They're not allowed to comment because the games finished? Are you on crack?

There is downsides to the game, just like every other game. And if I want to talk about them I will. Get over it.

[Mafiashock]

I never said it was going to change. Jesus, what about all these flaws people point out on GTA? They're not allowed to comment because the games finished? Are you on crack?

There is downsides to the game, just like every other game. And if I want to talk about them I will. Get over it.

Well that was uncalled for. There are downsides to the game no one ever said there wasn't. Some people like to reserve their judgement until they actually play the final product to see how everything fits in with the big picture. This isn't a sandbox game and you are expecting it to have sandbox qualities. You believe the weather is a flaw...I think it's more realistic the way they're doing it rather than using a dynamic weather system for a linear cinematic story driven game spanning 10+ years.

[Spiral Static]

I'm pretty sure you can't. It's just there for aesthetics. Would much rather see a working barber shop, than a plaster that say's BARBER SHOP like in GTA IV.

Also it was a joke, you really need to calm down:(

Seriously Fulcrum, calm down. And you can't get a haircut because I doubt the game would let you have a mullet when you're getting made. :rolleyes:

And you said you would free roam for 16 hours straight. Where I am right now, the weather hasn't changed for 15 days.

[FulcrumX]

And you said you would free roam for 16 hours straight. Where I am right now, the weather hasn't changed for 15 days.

Are you in new york? The city the game is based on? Further more are you in the 1950's?

[SirWatkinz]

Are you in new york? The city the game is based on? Further more are you in the 1950's?

Just piss off, go play Far Cry 2, or any other game with a full dynamic weather cycle and stop whining all the time.

http://www.anger-management-techniques.org/

[FulcrumX]

Just piss off, go play Far Cry 2, or any other game with a full dynamic weather cycle and stop whining all the time.

I'm not whining, I pointed out what is (in my opinion) a flaw in the game and all the fanboys started raping me with their closed minded crap.

far cry 2? Never played it. Honestly I don't even know what it is. I thought it was like COD or something, is it an open world game? :confused:

And those anger management techiques, are they for your benefit as well? Because honestly, I'm not angry I'm having a good ****ing laugh with this. You're the one jumping into conversations swinging blindly when you haven't even looked back to read the topic fully and realise that the fanboys caused the arguement, not me. Or perhaps you are also one of the many fanboys and your fanboyism has blinded you.

Either way, you don't matter.

[SirWatkinz]

I'm not whining, I pointed out what is (in my opinion) a flaw in the game and all the fanboys started raping me with their closed minded crap.

far cry 2? Never played it. Honestly I don't even know what it is. I thought it was like COD or something, is it an open world game? :confused:

And those anger management techiques, are they for your benefit as well? Because honestly, I'm not angry I'm having a good ****ing laugh with this. You're the one jumping into conversations swinging blindly when you haven't even looked back to read the topic fully and realise that the fanboys caused the arguement, not me. Or perhaps you are also one of the many fanboys and your fanboyism has blinded you.

Either way, you don't matter.

Sure sure, all i see is that you keep mocking people, just let it go! Feel free to point out all the negative in the game (Too short, no dynamic weather cycle blah blah blaaaaaaah) but when somebody gives you a valid reason for why they didn't include it in the game, just accept it.
Why would you want it that much anyway?

And you asked why they didn't include a weather cycle inbetween the missions, and people simply point out why they don't and you start insulting 2K's work, by saying they're focusing on so much realistic *ahem* sh it that no one cares about.
You're not the victim here boy.

[Mafiashock]

I'm not whining, I pointed out what is (in my opinion) a flaw in the game and all the fanboys started raping me with their closed minded crap.

far cry 2? Never played it. Honestly I don't even know what it is. I thought it was like COD or something, is it an open world game? :confused:

And those anger management techiques, are they for your benefit as well? Because honestly, I'm not angry I'm having a good ****ing laugh with this. You're the one jumping into conversations swinging blindly when you haven't even looked back to read the topic fully and realise that the fanboys caused the arguement, not me. Or perhaps you are also one of the many fanboys and your fanboyism has blinded you.

Either way, you don't matter.

So...your only argument is to call people fan boys because they don't agree with your crazy logic that 15 days out of a ten year span the weather happens to change back and forth every couple of hours for every one of those 15 days? God forbid somebody disagrees with you...they MUST be a fanboy.

[Gamba]

I'm not whining, I pointed out what is (in my opinion) a flaw in the game and all the fanboys started raping me with their closed minded crap.

far cry 2? Never played it. Honestly I don't even know what it is. I thought it was like COD or something, is it an open world game? :confused:

And those anger management techiques, are they for your benefit as well? Because honestly, I'm not angry I'm having a good ****ing laugh with this. You're the one jumping into conversations swinging blindly when you haven't even looked back to read the topic fully and realise that the fanboys caused the arguement, not me. Or perhaps you are also one of the many fanboys and your fanboyism has blinded you.

Either way, you don't matter.

Dude seriously, you need to calm down a bit. Just drop the subject, I will have to agree with what another member said: "The game is finished, so what's the point?" (or sum). Well, why take this conversation any further? You're claiming you're trying to put the fire out, but you're using gasoline. So people tell you to stop, but you can't see as to why because your face has already been burnt. Just let it go, man :o

[FulcrumX]

So...your only argument is to call people fan boys because they don't agree with your crazy logic that 15 days out of a ten year span the weather happens to change back and forth every couple of hours for every one of those 15 days? God forbid somebody disagrees with you...they MUST be a fanboy.

What are you talking about? Have you lostthe plot completely?

My point was I pointed out something that I felt was a negative thing for the game and all the fan boys (i.e YOU) went mental about it.

You can't take it that someone has a different opinion from you. You belittle my opinion calling it "crazy logic" and "closed minded" simply because you don't like seeing people saying some negative about the game you're having wet dreams about.

G.T.F.O it's my opinion, I think it sucks the weather will stay the same during free roam. I also think it sucks that the game is only 15 hours long. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. Honestly I don't give a **** what you think. I stopped respecting your opinion the minute you started to get all pissy because you can't take someone not liking certain elements of your beloved game.


Man up.

I still say this is a contender for game of the decade (never mind GOTY) but it's not without it's flaws. I don't expect them to be changed, I just expect people to admit that flaws actually exist...well, I expect that from people who are blinded by fanboyism at least.

[PG1]

Can we draw a line under all this talk of day/night and weather until jack comes on. It's not going anywhere.

[SirWatkinz]

What are you talking about? Have you lostthe plot completely?

My point was I pointed out something that I felt was a negative thing for the game and all the fan boys (i.e YOU) went mental about it.

You can't take it that someone has a different opinion from you. You belittle my opinion calling it "crazy logic" and "closed minded" simply because you don't like seeing people saying some negative about the game you're having wet dreams about.

G.T.F.O it's my opinion, I think it sucks the weather will stay the same during free roam. I also think it sucks that the game is only 15 hours long. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. Honestly I don't give a **** what you think. I stopped respecting your opinion the minute you started to get all pissy because you can't take someone not liking certain elements of your beloved game.


Man up.

I still say this is a contender for game of the decade (never mind GOTY) but it's not without it's flaws. I don't expect them to be changed, I just expect people to admit that flaws actually exist...well, I expect that from people who are blinded by fanboyism at least.

Do yourself a favor and go back a few pages and read how it all started, you started insulting people not the other way around.

[FulcrumX]

Do yourself a favor and go back a few pages and read how it all started, you started insulting people not the other way around.

I stated an opinion. They disrespected it. I insulted them.

That's what happened.

Do yourself (and everyone else) a favour and G.T.F.O

[Mafiashock]

What are you talking about? Have you lostthe plot completely?

My point was I pointed out something that I felt was a negative thing for the game and all the fan boys (i.e YOU) went mental about it.

You can't take it that someone has a different opinion from you. You belittle my opinion calling it "crazy logic" and "closed minded" simply because you don't like seeing people saying some negative about the game you're having wet dreams about.

G.T.F.O it's my opinion, I think it sucks the weather will stay the same during free roam. I also think it sucks that the game is only 15 hours long. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. Honestly I don't give a **** what you think. I stopped respecting your opinion the minute you started to get all pissy because you can't take someone not liking certain elements of your beloved game.


Man up.

I still say this is a contender for game of the decade (never mind GOTY) but it's not without it's flaws. I don't expect them to be changed, I just expect people to admit that flaws actually exist...well, I expect that from people who are blinded by fanboyism at least.

When have I ever said the game doesn't have flaws? You automatically go into this fan boy defense mode when someone disagrees with you. No one here has gone mental or pissy with anything unless you're referring to your own posts the last couple of pages. You're really acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

[FulcrumX]

When have I ever said the game doesn't have flaws?

I posted my opinion you said it was wrong. What you fail to see here is that it is my opinion. There is no right or wrong, I think it would have made the game better, you don't. That's called a difference of opinion but no, your opinion had to be right. You keep stating it like it's some sort of fact. You're unwilling to let someone post a reason why they dislike the game, you simply won't let it happen. You jumped straight at them screaming about how wrong they are.



You're really acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

And you're acting like a ☺☺☺☺.

[Frankie Potts Killer]

Can we draw a line under all this talk of day/night and weather until jack comes on. It's not going anywhere.

I think that was a no .....

[Spiral Static]

I agree with Fulcrum. In real life, the weather changes every 20 minutes. As I'm writing this, it just started snowing! Oh, now it's sunny again! Here comes the fog!

[Frankie Potts Killer]

I agree with Fulcrum. In real life, the weather changes every 20 minutes. As I'm writing this, it just started snowing! Oh, now it's sunny again! Here comes the fog!


global warming is a ☺☺☺☺☺☺

[tgas416]

Hi jack i got a question btw thanks for time to answer those questions for us!

But are u guys planing on extending the squeal to make this a big franchise? games like cod or gta?

[Spiral Static]

global warming is a ☺☺☺☺☺☺

Good point! Hey FulcrumX, weather didn't change as much back in the 50s because there was no global warming! Although, what you're expecting from the game's weather doesn't even happen now anyway....:rolleyes:

[I Mafiusi di la Vicaria]

is the simulation in Mafia II

the same as mafia I

[FulcrumX]

Good point! Hey FulcrumX, weather didn't change as much back in the 50s because there was no global warming! Although, what you're expecting from the game's weather doesn't even happen now anyway....:rolleyes:

Yes. It does.

Come to the U.K I'll show you.


@Spiral Static didn't say every 20 minutes did I?


Seriously. I posted something I dislike about the game and all you fanboys ☺☺☺☺ a brick. Face it, people have different opinions.

Go wank off over one of the dev diaries. I'm bored with you now.

[McGee]

Yes. It does.

Come to the U.K I'll show you.


@Spiral Static didn't say every 20 minutes did I?


Seriously. I posted something I dislike about the game and all you fanboys ☺☺☺☺ a brick. Face it, people have different opinions.

Go wank off over one of the dev diaries. I'm bored with you now.

Why are you so mean? :(

[FulcrumX]

Why are you so mean? :(

I wasn't raised right :(

[McGee]

I wasn't raised right :(

Did you try seeking jesus? ;)

[FulcrumX]

Did you try seeking jesus? ;)

I did but I found Lucifer instead :cool:

[McGee]

I did but I found Lucifer instead :cool:

shame:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No but seriously I pray to jesus, and his followers, mary, and baby jesus. Praise the lord hallalejuh! Pray for his sins, I beg thee!

[Wiseguy88]

Bless me father, for I have sinned.

[Wiseguy88]

Did you try seeking jesus? ;)

FulcrumX goes Forrest Gump: I didn't know I was suppose to look for him sir. :eek:

[FulcrumX]

FulcrumX goes Forrest Gump: I didn't know I was suppose to look for him sir. :eek:

for a swedish guy your english is pretty good. Which is a shame because in a foreign language you'd be a lot less of a dick. (mainly because I wouldn't have a clue what you're saying).

[Wiseguy88]

for a swedish guy your english is pretty good. Which is a shame because in a foreign language you'd be a lot less of a dick. (mainly because I wouldn't have a clue what you're saying).

lol...wasen't trying to offend you, chillax!

[mafioso87]

wow this thread is spammed to hell lol
in regards to the weather change, i understand why the excluded such a feature given the linear cinematic nature of the game.
i do hope it changes during free roam (after completing the game). dont know if jack adressed that as i dont want to go through the effort of reading 100 pages hehe

[McGee]

wow this thread is spammed to hell lol
in regards to the weather change, i understand why the excluded such a feature given the linear cinematic nature of the game.
i do hope it changes during free roam (after completing the game). dont know if jack adressed that as i dont want to go through the effort of reading 100 pages hehe


Jack and 2K Dan have alluded to there being some sort of free roam after the completion of the game. Though we have no clue if it's similar to Mafia 1 free roam...

[mafioso87]

Jack and 2K Dan have alluded to there being some sort of free roam after the completion of the game. Though we have no clue if it's similar to Mafia 1 free roam...

yeah i know but i was talking about free roam in relation to weather change. if that feature will exist during the free roam part of the game, after completing the story mode

[McGee]

yeah i know but i was talking about free roam in relation to weather change. if that feature will exist during the free roam part of the game, after completing the story mode

Not sure...the game doesn't feature a weather cycle, or a night/day cycle. So I'm assuming that whatever the last mission is (weather, and day or night wise) it'll be like that while free roaming.

Or possibly, it could simply be a pre set sunny day.

[FulcrumX]

Not sure...the game doesn't feature a weather cycle, or a night/day cycle. So I'm assuming that whatever the last mission is (weather, and day or night wise) it'll be like that while free roaming.

Or possibly, it could simply be a pre set sunny day.

yay for realism!

[McGee]

yay for realism!

No offence but that pony needs to hit the stable.

Mafia 2 is about realism, no doubt. But it's still a game, a virtual reality. It has elements of realism no doubt, but if the whole game was set on being as realistic as possible, then you wouldn't have a very fun video game:rolleyes:

[mafioso87]

yay for realism!

ahh screw realism :D

[McGee]

ahh screw realism :D

In soviet russia, REALISM screws with you!:eek:

[Dsmooth16]

Is the fat man in the E3 buzzsaw trailer or gameplay a mobster in the vinci family or is he just a distillery owner because he looks like fat joe from the holiday pic and some previewers call Mobster.

[McGee]

Is the fat man in the E3 buzzsaw trailer or gameplay a mobster in the vinci family or is he just a distillery owner because he looks like fat joe from the holiday pic and some previewers call Mobster.

I believe he's part of the Falcone clan..

[FulcrumX]

No offence but that pony needs to hit the stable.

Mafia 2 is about realism, no doubt. But it's still a game, a virtual reality. It has elements of realism no doubt, but if the whole game was set on being as realistic as possible, then you wouldn't have a very fun video game:rolleyes:

very true.

Flashpoint: Operation Dragon Rising is a fine example of a game that was TO realistic.

[mafioso87]

hey jack

i was curious about if there were any game or missions in a game you thought was epic and wanted the same for mafia 2?
like i understand that 2k czech obviously had a preset image and idea of what type of game they wanted to create, but to which extent did you draw inspiration from other games as well? :)

[Mafiashock]

yay for realism!

Oh look it's gone from sunny to rainy back to sunny back to rainy to day to night back to day back to night in a matter of 5 hours...yay for realism :rolleyes:

[FulcrumX]

Oh look it's gone from sunny to rainy back to sunny back to rainy to day to night back to day back to night in a matter of 5 hours...yay for realism :rolleyes:

never said anything about day or night, stop putting words in my mouth.


This morning at 9am it was raining(heavy) at 11am it cleared up but was still cold, at 2pm the sun came out, now it's boiling hot.

An example of the real world^

[Don_Vito]

I believe he's part of the Falcone clan..

Well they said he was just someone who didn't pay protection money but that could have easily changed

[Mafiashock]

never said anything about day or night, stop putting words in my mouth.


This morning at 9am it was raining(heavy) at 11am it cleared up but was still cold, at 2pm the sun came out, now it's boiling hot.

An example of the real world^

ummmmm ok.....yesterday it was sunny all day here....an example of the "real world" as well. Uk does not = everywhere. I guess if it's sunny all day in Ny they're not living in the "real world" lol.

[FulcrumX]

ummmmm ok.....yesterday it was sunny all day here....an example of the "real world" as well. Uk does not = everywhere. I guess if it's sunny all day in Ny they're not living in the "real world" lol.

No. They're not. Because they're american and we all know americans don't live in the real world, they live in some bubble where they do no wrong and everything is someone else's fault.

[Mafiashock]

No. They're not. Because they're american and we all know americans don't live in the real world, they live in some bubble where they do no wrong and everything is someone else's fault.

Shocking that that's your only argument...well not really pretty much what I was expecting. It's hilarious you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound. It's like someone from Alaska complaining about the weather in a game set in summertime california because it doesn't have the same weather conditions as where they're from.

[FulcrumX]

It's hilarious you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound.

It's hilarious you don't realise I stopped giving a **** about 6 pages back and that you can't see I've spent the last dozen posts baiting you and. you. just. keep. biting.

[Mafiashock]

It's hilarious you don't realise I stopped giving a **** about 6 pages back and that you can't see I've spent the last dozen posts baiting you and. you. just. keep. biting.

I've noticed it...I've noticed that you've noticed that you're wrong so now all you've had left to turn to are childish remarks.

[FulcrumX]

I've noticed it...I've noticed that you've noticed that you're wrong so now all you've had left to turn to are childish remarks.

You say childish I say honest.*REMOVED*


And how am I wrong? I could leave mafia 2 running on my ps3 for sixty years and the weather would never change. Where's the realism in that? :rolleyes:

[Mafiashock]

You say childish I say honest. *REMOVED*


And how am I wrong? I could leave mafia 2 running on my ps3 for sixty years and the weather would never change. Where's the realism in that? :rolleyes:

You could do the same with every other linear game out there and it wouldn't change. It's not hard to comprehend that this is a linear story driven cinematic game and not a game with typical unrealistic sand box qualities...unless you really are a child.

[FulcrumX]

You could do the same with every other linear game out there and it wouldn't change. It's not hard to comprehend that this is a linear story driven cinematic game and not a game with typical unrealistic sand box qualities...unless you really are a child.

but it IS a sandbox game, it's an open world. It's not truly linear. Linear is dead space, uncharted, resident evil. This game is a cross-breed.

You don't even know what this game is how could you possibly form a proper opinion of it? :rolleyes:

[Mafiashock]

but it IS a sandbox game, it's an open world. It's not truly linear. Linear is dead space, uncharted, resident evil. This game is a cross-breed.

You don't even know what this game is how could you possibly form a proper opinion of it? :rolleyes:

All you have to do is play Mafia 1, which I've done many times, to know what the basic formula of this game will be like. Your ignorance is showing even more now.

[RunningBare]

FurlcrumX, Mafiashock, get a room.
I enjoy the threads visited by the 2K team, lets not put them off.

[Mafiashock]

FurlcrumX, Mafiashock, get a room.
I enjoy the threads visited by the 2K team, lets not put them off.

Noted. :)

[FulcrumX]

FurlcrumX, Mafiashock, get a room.


I offered but he declined. I don't think he's ready yet.

[Spiral Static]

never said anything about day or night, stop putting words in my mouth.


This morning at 9am it was raining(heavy) at 11am it cleared up but was still cold, at 2pm the sun came out, now it's boiling hot.

An example of the real world^

Are you talking about The Real World TV show on MTV? Because that's what happens on that show.....

And U.K. 2010 weather does not equal NY 1950 weather.

You say childish I say honest. *LOOK AT ALL THE PRETTY COLOURS Mr B!!!*


And how am I wrong? I could leave mafia 2 running on my ps3 for sixty years and the weather would never change. Where's the realism in that? :rolleyes:

If all Americans are ignorant and fat, then all British people have bad teeth and are ugly..... and all French people are cowards..... and all Muslims are terrorists......

*Niceness prevails!*

[FulcrumX]

Are you talking about The Real World TV show on MTV? Because that's what happens on that show.....

And U.K. 2010 weather does not equal NY 1950 weather.

*removed by Precarious*

*Removed by Precarious*

[Spiral Static]

to easy.....


*Rainbows and Sunshine Mr B!*

*Glitter Magic*

[McGee]

A few pages back, you said that you don't make childish insults.....lol.....:rolleyes:

apparently he doesn't consider those insults childish:rolleyes:

[Spiral Static]

*poof Be Gone*

[FulcrumX]

*abracadabra*

[Cagney89]

Don't even bother replying *, guys, this is the same stuff that has made Dev's go away in the past. *Removed* There's really no point in responding to the flame bait.

[FulcrumX]

*Sunshine and lollipops*

[Habbuba]

Don't even bother replying to *, guys, this is the same stuff that has made Dev's go away in the past. *Removed* There's really no point in responding to the flame bait.indeed..dont want the devs to go away again...

[PG1]

I do love moderators sometimes. You guys should run the world.:p

[Precarious]

I'm giving one and only one warning publicly as a few of you have already received infractions. This is not a thread for you to work out your differences. If you want to do that, there are plenty of chat rooms for you to go wild in. Come on... This thread was FOR YOU GUYS. Don't blow it.

[Saberq]

I read all pages but I dont have photographic memory....:D

2kJack first of all I want to thank you for creating such a great and cinematic experience....I agree on all the points that you said about music being more modern and voice overs....
I have one question..I dont know if it is your area of expertise but still no harm in asking.....Is Mafia II optimized well for PC...What I wanna say is ..is it going to run well if you meet certan requirements....I only ask this because GTA IV for example runs poory on high range PC's...I hope that wont be the case with Mafia II....

Thanks in advance Jack :) and keep up the good work.....

[oskario]

I read all pages but I dont have photographic memory....:D

2kJack first of all I want to thank you for creating such a great and cinematic experience....I agree on all the points that you said about music being more modern and voice overs....
I have one question..I dont know if it is your area of expertise but still no harm in asking.....Is Mafia II optimized well for PC...What I wanna say is ..is it going to run well if you meet certan requirements....I only ask this because GTA IV for example runs poory on high range PC's...I hope that wont be the case with Mafia II....

Thanks in advance Jack :) and keep up the good work.....

Would be VERY interesting to know!

[2K_Jack]

we understand you are busy and thanks again for taking the time to answer some of our questions. it's much appreciated

would you be able to answer if the demo will have a timer? i understand if you cant :)

Sorry, this is a question for Dan.

[2K_Jack]

I see very few models different from persons walking along the street. It is easy to meet to two equal persons the same suit in 10 meters.
Example:
http://mafia-daily.net/wp-content/gallery/mafia-2-screenshots/shubert_lkw.jpg
Three men sitting equal.
There are many different models?

Yes there are many different models. Which ones you see will depend on which part of the city you're in. As with real life, certain neighborhoods in our game are dominated by a certain race or ethnic group.

[VitoScarletta]

Jack, where is 2K Dan????

[McGee]

Mr. Scalici, I have a few questions for thee

1. Mafia II is very powerfull on story. did you guys just tried to bring a good story or you tried to say something beyond that too ? you know, like talking about America like The Godfather and how this country is going to influence on people and make them criminal. cause i feel Vito is very sad when he's not a pro killer and when america started to grow up in civilization Vito become a monster like America , something like Michel in The Godfather's trilogy.

2. You have created an indepth story about a persons life, human weakness can come in many forms, alcoholism for instance, where some people cannot get through a day without a drink, or maybe even drug addiction, or simply a weakness for the female form . So does the story present any of Vito's weaknesses (similar to what the Frankie Pott site is doing with his drug addiction)?

[2K_Jack]

jack, out of everything you've shown to the press, and the various gameplay video's, and what not...If you had to put a number on it, how much (percentage) wise do you think you've shown, and how much do you think is still not announced?

btw: can you show us that one thing that you told us to remind you about (the radio or something?):D

You've all seen way too much, but there's a lot that we haven't released or even hinted at, so please don't worry about the experience being ruined. You will be very surprised from start to finish.

If I had to put a number on it.... You've seen or read about 4 chapters. We have 15 chapters in the game. So you've probably seen or read about around 25% of the total experience.

[tgas416]

yeye Jack is Back oh we missed you!! lol

[Thymen Molizzo]

If I had to put a number on it.... You've seen or read about 4 chapters. We have 15 chapters in the game. So you've probably seen or read about around 25% of the total experience.

When you put it like that:
Jesus christ! :(

[McGee]

When you put it like that:
Jesus christ! :(

Well when a game is being developed for almost 7 years, things are bound to be leaked. :rolleyes:

[2K_Jack]

Hey Jack, i am actually on my ps3 right now watching the Developer Diaries and i have 3 questions (I've asked them before but Im trying toget confirmation from you.) First, do you have any idea when the Earning Your Keep video is being released? Second , someone said you can free roam after beating the game, is that true? i hope so. Lastly, what do you think the chances are of you guys adding some DLC online mode? PS sorry if im annoying anyone who answered these questions earlier

Hi. I'm not really sure what that video even is. I don't have much to do with that stuff anymore.

You can free roam at almost any point during the missions. If you want to play a separate mode that's more focused on free roaming, you can do that in both the PS3's free DLC and also the Jimmy's Vendetta DLC.

We have no plans to release a multiplayer component at this time. I've said this elsewhere in this thread and explained why.

[tgas416]

When you put it like that:
Jesus christ! :(

ya don't worry there still 75% left and like 26 day till release

[2K_Jack]

Hello Jack, hope your having a good weekend!
Thanks for taking the time to answer questions I'm hoping you can answer mine ;)

-Will mafia 2 have the same theme song on the main menu like mafia 1?
Heres the link to the song I'm talking about, it gave such an epic feeling everytime I heard it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VURwmP6bbqs&videos=1epEdVrG9q8

-Last question, when you shoot someone in the head will there be blood on thier face or like when you shoot them anywhere on thier body will thier cloths be bloody after? Sorry if thats a wierd question but I just think it makes your gun feel more powerful when you see it do damage like how people look after they get shot in movies like goodfellas.
I'm a sucker for violence :D

Only because your avatar is awesome...

The Mafia theme is similar. It's quite powerful. Some of more sensitive members of the team even cried while it was being recorded with the live orchestra. Seriously.

And yeah, you will see blood if you choose to shoot people in the game.

[2K_Jack]

Hey Jack i have a few questions.

1.Will u be able to enter most of the buidings?

2.Is there countryside in Empire Bay?

3.How many houses will Vito have

Dan will have answers to these.

[2K_Jack]

Thanks Jack for replying , that's why I prefer speaking with Devs and not PR people :p

1.Will you realease a SDK after the game release so the community can make mods and stuff.

2.About the PS3 exclusive launch DLC , could it be released later on steam like GTA IV DLC timed exclusive deal with Microsoft.

3.IN missions , can one mission be finished in a number of ways or it is just one solution.

4.Are there extreme freeride missions like Mafia 1 :cool:

1. Not sure. Not my decision.
2. Not sure. Not my decision.
3. Each mission has a specific objective that you must complete before moving on. There's usually only one way to accomplish it.
4. You can free roam anytime you want during the missions.

[Mafiosi21]

Hey Jack. My Question : Will you ever get temped to enter the water? Because you can´t swim in the game... Thanks :)

[Vito Scaletta]

Hello again Jack. :)

I have a question about one of your own statements.

You say that you and alot of people that worked on Mafia II are getting ready for the launch.
Does this mean that 2K is going to hold a midnight launch party or something?

[2K_Jack]

Thanks Jack for replying , that's why I prefer speaking with Devs and not PR people :p

1.Will you realease a SDK after the game release so the community can make mods and stuff.

2.About the PS3 exclusive launch DLC , could it be released later on steam like GTA IV DLC timed exclusive deal with Microsoft.

3.IN missions , can one mission be finished in a number of ways or it is just one solution.

4.Are there extreme freeride missions like Mafia 1 :cool:

1. Not sure. Not my decision.
2. Not sure. Not my decision.
3. Each mission has a specific objective that you must complete before moving on. There's usually only one way to accomplish it.
4. You can free roam anytime you want during the missions.

[2K_Jack]

Thanks for sharing Jack, can I assume you also like gospel?, no it's not a religious question, I'm athiest but very much enjoy gospel music.
The music in this game is just one of the many reasons I've pre-ordered, I heard Eddie Cochran in one clip, man that put a smile on my face a mile wide.

I'd also like to thank you and the rest of the team for your continued support of pc gaming.

Yup. Some of the best singers started out singing gospel music in church.

[2K_Jack]

I want to ask how long it will rain in the game ?
How many buildings will be able to enter in the game ?

These are questions for 2K Dan.

[I Mafiusi di la Vicaria]

is the simulation in Mafia II

the same as mafia I

because i like the carhandeling in mafia 1

[2K_Jack]

Is the fat man in the E3 buzzsaw trailer or gameplay a mobster in the vinci family or is he just a distillery owner because he looks like fat joe from the holiday pic and some previewers call Mobster.

He's just a gangster. Not in the mob.

[2K_Jack]

hey jack

i was curious about if there were any game or missions in a game you thought was epic and wanted the same for mafia 2?
like i understand that 2k czech obviously had a preset image and idea of what type of game they wanted to create, but to which extent did you draw inspiration from other games as well? :)

Many great games have been released since Mafia 1 was released. These games did certain things and did them well, and gamers have come to expect this stuff in a game. That's why we updated the gameplay in Mafia II. It's still challenging but it won't make you throw the controller or mouse. And above all else, it's fun. Sorry if I haven't directly answered your question. My role was to help the team bring more of a cinematic feel to the game, and that has almost nothing to do with other games :)

[Ljud]

Does Mafia II DLC include any of the cut side missions from Mafia II story?

I still hope that this mission wasn't cut from the main game:
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/mafia-ii-gameplay-11-06-2009/334262

And another one:
Have you been involved in making the story for the exclusive PS3 DLC or just the Main mafia story?

[iriquois]

hi jack, i posted this on dan's forum but he hasnt been on at all, of course you already know this, anyways maybe u could answer some of my questions. :)
1. ive seen the vids of vito having the ability to drink beverages, but does he the ability to eat food?
2. do you see the the animations when eating or are there only beverages available in the game?
3. can u sit down anywhere? like if u see a bench outisde or a chair/booth in a diner, can you choose to sit?
4. can you turn on and off the car radio whenever?
5. if you turn the radio off and exit the car and get back in, will the radio be off? the same when u leave it on?
6. can you break the railing of bridges if travelling really fast?
7. can u climb ladders, as well as those one's u find on the side of buildings(apartments,etc.)?
8. can you push people, if so, hard enough into incoming traffic, train, etc.?
9. can you perform side or front rolls?
10. can you pop tires?

[2K_Jack]

I read all pages but I dont have photographic memory....:D

2kJack first of all I want to thank you for creating such a great and cinematic experience....I agree on all the points that you said about music being more modern and voice overs....
I have one question..I dont know if it is your area of expertise but still no harm in asking.....Is Mafia II optimized well for PC...What I wanna say is ..is it going to run well if you meet certan requirements....I only ask this because GTA IV for example runs poory on high range PC's...I hope that wont be the case with Mafia II....

Thanks in advance Jack :) and keep up the good work.....

Yes, it runs well on PC. This is a benefit that PC users will get from the team's many optimizations for the consoles. If a tweak helped the consoles run the game better, then it usually really helps the PC run the game better. I used to run it on my Macbook Pro laptop at the voiceover recording sessions. (please don't ask what model/video/card/memory/resolution/frame rate etc.)

[Frankie Potts Killer]

hi jack, i posted this on dan's forum but he hasnt been on at all, of course you already know this

um yes he has ... and he also has other things to do

some of you are so needy

[2K_Jack]

Mr. Scalici, I have a few questions for thee

1. Mafia II is very powerfull on story. did you guys just tried to bring a good story or you tried to say something beyond that too ? you know, like talking about America like The Godfather and how this country is going to influence on people and make them criminal. cause i feel Vito is very sad when he's not a pro killer and when america started to grow up in civilization Vito become a monster like America , something like Michel in The Godfather's trilogy.

2. You have created an indepth story about a persons life, human weakness can come in many forms, alcoholism for instance, where some people cannot get through a day without a drink, or maybe even drug addiction, or simply a weakness for the female form . So does the story present any of Vito's weaknesses (similar to what the Frankie Pott site is doing with his drug addiction)?

1. Yes there is a social commentary buried somewhere in there. It is shown, not told. It's there for the observant to find. After you finish the game, come back and let me know what you think it is. It wasn't a goal or anything, just something I did when working on the dialog.

2. Vito is the main character. He must appeal to the audience and they must identify with him. I know a lot of guys like Vito. Like Vito, their only weakness is the desire to escape humble beginnings and attain success and everything that goes along with it. It's a "weakness" that most men have. On the other hand, most men (our core audience) wouldn't be able to identify with someone who is so weak and pathetic that they're addicted to drugs or they can't get through the day without a drink. You want to use drugs and alcohol, that's fine, but having a main character who lets that define who he is or allows it to limit what he can do, that would have been a mistake in this story.

[Mafiosi21]

Jack sorry if i annoy you.. but i would like to know if the player falls in temptation to jump in the water?? ( just asking this because you cant swim and the water looks so damn nice)

[2K_Jack]

Jack, where is 2K Dan????

I told Dan that if forum members start behaving like they've behaved in this thread, he should not to bother answering questions. We usually answer your questions on our own time, on our lunch breaks, after hours, on weekends, etc.

[2K_Jack]

Well when a game is being developed for almost 7 years, things are bound to be leaked. :rolleyes:

And a lot of what you've seen is pure marketing stuff that isn't even in the game, so again, don't worry about things being ruined for you.

[2K_Jack]

hi jack, i posted this on dan's forum but he hasnt been on at all, of course you already know this, anyways maybe u could answer some of my questions. :)
1. ive seen the vids of vito having the ability to drink beverages, but does he the ability to eat food?
2. do you see the the animations when eating or are there only beverages available in the game?
3. can u sit down anywhere? like if u see a bench outisde or a chair/booth in a diner, can you choose to sit?
4. can you turn on and off the car radio whenever?
5. if you turn the radio off and exit the car and get back in, will the radio be off? the same when u leave it on?
6. can you break the railing of bridges if travelling really fast?
7. can u climb ladders, as well as those one's u find on the side of buildings(apartments,etc.)?
8. can you push people, if so, hard enough into incoming traffic, train, etc.?
9. can you perform side or front rolls?
10. can you pop tires?

Sorry, these are 100% Dan questions. Hopefully he will have time to come back on. If not, you'll have to wait for the demo.

[2K_Jack]

Hey Jack. My Question : Will you ever get temped to enter the water? Because you can´t swim in the game... Thanks :)

No........

[packardcaribien]

Jack; do you know if the preorder cars were taken out of the game to become bonuses? The two hot rods and the military jeep were seen long before the preorder bonuses were ever announced.

[2K_Jack]

Hello again Jack. :)

I have a question about one of your own statements.

You say that you and alot of people that worked on Mafia II are getting ready for the launch.
Does this mean that 2K is going to hold a midnight launch party or something?

I'm sure there are some plans for parties but I don't know what they are right now. We are not all planning for a party if that's what you're asking :)

[2K_Jack]

is the simulation in Mafia II

the same as mafia I

because i like the carhandeling in mafia 1

Well, the cars are very different, so even if it was, they would behave differently. If you enjoyed driving in Mafia, you will enjoy simulation mode in Mafia II.

[Mafiosi21]

Will Vito get a girlfriend in the Game? It would be nice if we would see the lovestory of Vito Scaletta in Mafia 2 :D Just like in the original Mafia with Tommy and Sarah. :)

[2K_Jack]

Jack; do you know if the preorder cars were taken out of the game to become bonuses? The two hot rods and the military jeep were seen long before the preorder bonuses were ever announced.

Nothing was taken out of the game to fulfill pre-order requirments. You need to build pre-order stuff these days, just like you nee to create DLC. It's been like that since I started working on games almost 12 years ago. It makes sense to create the pre-order stuff when you create the stuff you originally planned to be in the game. How or why these pre-order items ever got out, I don't know.

Also, think about this - would you have seen a military jeep on the roads of a major city back then??

[2K_Jack]

Will Vito get a girlfriend in the Game? It would be nice if we would see the lovestory of Vito Scaletta in Mafia 2 :D Just like in the original Mafia with Tommy and Sarah. :)

No. As with real life, women really complicate things in games :)

[2K_Jack]

That's all I got for now. See ya soon guys.

[Mafiosi21]

Hmm shame.. but if you say so :) Im soo excited to play this game and to know the story!! :D

[packardcaribien]

Nothing was taken out of the game to fulfill pre-order requirments. You need to build pre-order stuff these days, just like you nee to create DLC. It's been like that since I started working on games almost 12 years ago. It makes sense to create the pre-order stuff when you create the stuff you originally planned to be in the game. How or why these pre-order items ever got out, I don't know.


Also, think about this - would you have seen a military jeep on the roads of a major city back then??

Well; the fact that there was a military jeep driving by in plain view during a secondary release of the E3 09' gameplay would mean that you planned the DLC's quite early. And you would have seen a military jeep once in a while on the streets during WWII, not like normal cars but they weren't strange occurences.

Also; the jeep expy in the game and it's civilian version made by Walter: what is it called? I always though the "Steed" would be nice but I've never seen a particularly clever name for a jeep in a videogame yet. ;)

EDIT: Aye; why do I always get missed once I come up with a nice question.

[Mafiosi21]

Well; the fact that there was a military jeep driving by in plain view during a secondary release of the E3 09' gameplay would mean that you planned the DLC's quite early. And you would have seen a military jeep once in a while on the streets during WWII, not like normal cars but they weren't strange occurences.

Also; the jeep expy in the game and it's civilian version made by Walter: what is it called? I always though the "Steed" would be nice but I've never seen a particularly clever name for a jeep in a videogame yet. ;)

EDIT: Aye; why do I always get missed once I come up with a nice question.

Life is tough dude ..

[Vito Scaletta]

I'm sure there are some plans for parties but I don't know what they are right now. We are not all planning for a party if that's what you're asking :)

I personally don't like parties... I was just wondering if 2K is planning on doing a huge midnight release of Mafia II.

The reason why I ask is because StarCraft II did, They had a huge midnight launch in California.

[Ljud]

EDIT: Aye; why do I always get missed once I come up with a nice question.

I feel you man. Jack responded to every question I asked, except when I asked him If some side mission that we saw is still in the game. And I asked him twice. I guess I'll have to play the game and find out for myself. :D

[McGee]

Do you think story wise there's anything that remotely compares to Mafia 2, quality, and finesse? Currently?


Also a question.

He was in the 101st, you can see from his shoulder patch on the war hero DLC.

Is the Operation Husky thing a rumor? From what the original post said, it seems that he was in Husky.

You'd think 2K would get something that trivial right? They did a great job on all the historical parts, even down to his uniform.

Is vito really in the 101st? Because like the poster mentioned it's sorta incorrect^

[JohnnyBoy]

Only because your avatar is awesome...

The Mafia theme is similar. It's quite powerful. Some of more sensitive members of the team even cried while it was being recorded with the live orchestra. Seriously.

And yeah, you will see blood if you choose to shoot people in the game.

Glad you think my avatar is awsome :D
I love when music has that powerful feeling to it, cant wait to hear it.
Thats good that theres blood it would be like art with this kind of game, I didn't really see it in gameplay videos was thinking they're all censored or something.
Thanks for the info bro :cool:

[Jukebox]

Yeah, blood splattered in clothes or other object is really cool and a must for the game like this. I wonder if I can spray someone with Tommy Gun, and his blood splatter in his body and object behind him.

[Ennio]

Yeah, blood splattered in clothes or other object is really cool and a must for the game like this. I wonder if I can spray someone with Tommy Gun, and his blood splatter in his body and object behind him.

Blood gets you quite excited, doesn't it?

[Saberq]

Thanks for answering my question Jack really thanks :)
I have one more...Do you personally fell that you captured the spirit of the 40s and 50s....What I wanna say is that will we the players feel the clear difference between being in the 40s WWII period and being in the 50s more rock and roll style? :D

[Wiseguy88]

Thanks for answering my question Jack really thanks :)
I have one more...Do you personally fell that you captured the spirit of the 40s and 50s....What I wanna say is that will we the players feel the clear difference between being in the 40s WWII period and being in the 50s more rock and roll style? :D

They talked about this a bunch of times. Everything will change, the cars, the music, womens hair, the architecture, the weather etc etc. They have the snowy backdrop in the 40s so we can really feel what a bleak time it is in Vito's life at that moment.

[Jukebox]

Blood gets you quite excited, doesn't it?
Everybody loves blood, especially for the game like this.

[McGee]

Everybody loves blood, especially for game like this.

in real life, or in video games? :rolleyes:

[Jake Dunn]

what is Outstanding features of free mode ?

[McGee]

what is Outstanding features of free mode ?

free mode? There is no free mode.:rolleyes:

[Marcquez]

I'm sure there are some plans for parties but I don't know what they are right now. We are not all planning for a party if that's what you're asking :)

Do I get an invite for the party? :eek:

[McGee]

Do I get an invite for the party? :eek:

You can have a party at my house if want;)

[Jukebox]

Jack, will the console version also get simulation mode? Or its just exclusive for PC?

[Conal123]

free mode? There is no free mode.:rolleyes:

There is free mode

[Saberq]

I understand why they included arcade mode but simulation is the way to go man :D

[Thymen Molizzo]

Jack, here's a somewhat odd question.

How do you guys come up with the character's appearances?
An early version of Vito, for example, looked a lot like a young Marlon Brando.

And Joe looks like a larger, fatter version of Joe Pesci (mostly the face), a little bit.
Do you use other people as a reference? Like, in... Assassin's Creed, for example, they used an actor to model the main characters after.

[FulcrumX]

There is free mode

No. There isn't. (that we know of, it's yet to be confirmed)

[Alx]

1,154 replies and 55,000 views later, Jack is still answering questions in his free time. I'm impressed.

Thanks for creating the most interesting thread on this board Jack. I love to read about all the details and game dev insight. Fantastic.

[RunningBare]

They talked about this a bunch of times. Everything will change, the cars, the music, womens hair, the architecture, the weather etc etc. They have the snowy backdrop in the 40s so we can really feel what a bleak time it is in Vito's life at that moment.This would be the first time I hope someone creates a stupid mod that does not fit a game, a time machine, I'd be flitting back and forth between both eras just to watch the changes!
The game must have a huge amount of resources in the way of models and textures...come on the 27th!!!

[2K_Jack]

This would be the first time I hope someone creates a stupid mod that does not fit a game, a time machine, I'd be flitting back and forth between both eras just to watch the changes!
The game must have a huge amount of resources in the way of models and textures...come on the 27th!!!

I suggested the DeLorean but I got denied...

[2K_Jack]

1,154 replies and 55,000 views later, Jack is still answering questions in his free time. I'm impressed.

Thanks for creating the most interesting thread on this board Jack. I love to read about all the details and game dev insight. Fantastic.

My pleasure. I just wish people would stay on topic a bit more and argue/complain somewhere else.

[RunningBare]

I suggested the DeLorean but I got denied...Darn it!, never mind, I'll settle for replays.

[frederik129]

i don't know if this has been answered yet,

but in the Nvidia physics trailer, Vito's coat was floating very realistic and other stuff too, is this only for the APEX or something mode
or also for high settings

[tgas416]

Jack i have a question Will the pre order bonus dlc be available right away in game or will we have to earn it some how?
Thanks

[2K_Jack]

Jack, here's a somewhat odd question.

How do you guys come up with the character's appearances?
An early version of Vito, for example, looked a lot like a young Marlon Brando.

And Joe looks like a larger, fatter version of Joe Pesci (mostly the face), a little bit.
Do you use other people as a reference? Like, in... Assassin's Creed, for example, they used an actor to model the main characters after.

The inspiration could come from anywhere really. People of different races and whose ancestors are from certain geographical locations all have common facial features. So the artists sometimes just come up with something by starting with a basic head, and then they adjust each feature so that it's appropriate to that character's age, sex, race, and the part of the world they're from. Then we iterate on that character until they look like a real human.

Sometimes we use a real person as reference. Sometimes it's even a member of the dev team, or it could be someone who works in publishing. We start there, but we tweak it until they look like they belong in our game's world.

There is absolutely no Joe Pesci in Joe Barbaro. As a character, after I read the original script, we agreed that the biggest danger with him was to veer off into Joe Pesci's character of Tommy in Goodfellas. So he wasn't going to act like him, look like him, or sound like him. Don't get me wrong - I think that's Pesci's best performance ever, I just wanted us to do something original with Joe, not copy/paste a character from a movie into our game.

Personally I'm not a fan of using an actor's face for major characters. In just about all of the games I know of where this was done, I remember looking at the character and thinking "Wow, they could have done a lot better with this character model. The guy looks kinda like a douche."

[2K_Jack]

Jack, will the console version also get simulation mode? Or its just exclusive for PC?

It'll be available on console and PC.

[Pittsburgh Phil]

Jack,

Im almost certain this has been asked, probably numerous times, but will there be a replay mission option like in Mafia1?

Thanks

[2K_Jack]

i don't know if this has been answered yet,

but in the Nvidia physics trailer, Vito's coat was floating very realistic and other stuff too, is this only for the APEX or something mode
or also for high settings

I'm pretty sure that the cloth and particle effects you saw in that trailer are only available if your video card supports it. As far as I am aware, it's a hardware-only feature.

[tgas416]

I'm pretty sure that the cloth and particle effects you saw in that trailer are only available if your video card supports it. As far as I am aware, it's a hardware-only feature.

so will the cloth move on consoles?

[Thymen Molizzo]

Alright, thank you for the thorough answer about the character appearances, Jack!

[Vito Scaletta]

Clothing will move on Xbox 360, Nvida & ATi.

Here is proof that clothing moves on ATi.

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AOEy8vCn1k&hd=1 - After you watch the vid it will list the specs on the pc at ( 7:42 )

But what is sad though for PS3 users, Is that PS3 users don't get moving cloth, I saw the comparisons and PS3 has no moving cloth.

[Mafiashock]

My pleasure. I just wish people would stay on topic a bit more and argue/complain somewhere else.

My fault. Won't happen again...well from me anyways.

On topic

have review discs been sent out? Is there a date set for an embargo liftment for final reviews to be released?

[tgas416]

Clothing will move on Xbox 360, Nvida & ATi.

Here is proof that clothing moves on ATi.

Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AOEy8vCn1k&hd=1 - After you watch the vid it will list the specs on the pc at ( 7:42 )

But what is sad though for PS3 users, Is that PS3 users don't get moving cloth, I saw the comparisons and PS3 has no moving cloth.

Sweet thanks man

[Vito Scaletta]

Sweet thanks man

No problem. :)

The clothing does move on the ATi but only like the Xbox 360, If you want better cloth simulation, You should run Mafia II on a Nvidia.

[tgas416]

No problem. :)

The clothing does move on the ATi but only like the Xbox 360, If you want better cloth simulation, You should run Mafia II on a Nvidia.

I'm buying the 360 version so hopefully it will run smoothly.

[Vladdus]

Jack, I'd also like to thank you for answering our questions! It's really cool to talk with someone from the 2k team directly about Mafia 2!

[frederik129]

this game will be so awesome !

too bad you guys didn't implement the day/night cycle + hours
and when want to start a mission, you have to do it between the specified hours, and like the hour clock doesn't continue when started, and when the mission is done, it continue's a couple of hours later or stuff, sounds easy, but it probable wasn't cuz 2k didn't choose to go like that :)

[tgas416]

this game will be so awesome !

too bad you guys didn't implement the day/night cycle + hours
and when want to start a mission, you have to do it between the specified hours, and like the hour clock doesn't continue when started, and when the mission is done, it continue's a couple of hours later or stuff, sounds easy, but it probable wasn't cuz 2k didn't choose to go like that :)
dude this not gta and it will never be gta so just enjoy what they made

[sedlbob]

this game will be so awesome !

too bad you guys didn't implement the day/night cycle + hours
and when want to start a mission, you have to do it between the specified hours, and like the hour clock doesn't continue when started, and when the mission is done, it continue's a couple of hours later or stuff, sounds easy, but it probable wasn't cuz 2k didn't choose to go like that :)

One solution of the day/night cycle might also be a real-time representation, but then you would be probably limited by some timer not spending too much time in the city and just moving to the next mission point.
But I can't imagine the gta style here. You would start the Empire Arms mission in the shiny hot afternoon and leaving the building next morning with a storm going on.



Jack,

You're responsible for the voice record and the music selection on Mafia 2, but not as a part of 2K Czech crew, if I'm not mistaken.
Are you still tied up with some 2K Czech project after Mafia 2 being released (not meaning Mafia 2 DLC's or stuff, but you con consider that too as a part of the wonder).
Thanks.

[glesson]

This was something that I didn't like in GTA IV. Who ever goes out drinking or to a strip club around 7 am?!?:)

[day2daze]

This was something that I didn't like in GTA IV. Who ever goes out drinking or to a strip club around 7 am?!?:)

Those that go hard (on drugs)

[RunningBare]

This was something that I didn't like in GTA IV. Who ever goes out drinking or to a strip club around 7 am?!?:)Of course you are correct, that's about the time I'd be coming home :cool:

[sedlbob]

This was something that I didn't like in GTA IV. Who ever goes out drinking or to a strip club around 7 am?!?

Those that go hard (on drugs)

Some people have night shifts wanting to take off sometimes. :p


Another question, Jack.

How have you solved a situation with a car radio while you're driving somebody and having a discussion? Is the music still playing background, but barely noticeable? Then, when they go quiet (if so, but somebody may take them for a tour around the city), does the music pop on again?

[Vladdus]

My pleasure. I just wish people would stay on topic a bit more and argue/complain somewhere else.

here we go

[2K_Jack]

One solution of the day/night cycle might also be a real-time representation, but then you would be probably limited by some timer not spending too much time in the city and just moving to the next mission point.
But I can't imagine the gta style here. You would start the Empire Arms mission in the shiny hot afternoon and leaving the building next morning with a storm going on.



Jack,

You're responsible for the voice record and the music selection on Mafia 2, but not as a part of 2K Czech crew, if I'm not mistaken.
Are you still tied up with some 2K Czech project after Mafia 2 being released (not meaning Mafia 2 DLC's or stuff, but you con consider that too as a part of the wonder).
Thanks.

I have my role at 2K, and I'm sure I'll continue to work closely with 2K Czech on their future projects as well.

[2K_Jack]

Jack i have a question Will the pre order bonus dlc be available right away in game or will we have to earn it some how?
Thanks

Not sure. I'd imagine if it's a pre-order bonus, it would be available immediately. Try asking 2K Dan in his thread.

[2K_Jack]

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Some people have night shifts wanting to take off sometimes. :p


Another question, Jack.

How have you solved a situation with a car radio while you're driving somebody and having a discussion? Is the music still playing background, but barely noticeable? Then, when they go quiet (if so, but somebody may take them for a tour around the city), does the music pop on again?

It's called "ducking." The music volume is automatically lowered when the characters in the car speak. It goes back up to normal volume when they're done speaking.

[Jukebox]

Jack, I have Xbox 360. Will the console version also get cloth effects? Or it's only available exclusively for Nvidia PC?

[McGee]

Jack, in your opinion what do you think is Mafia 2 biggest strength? Is it the combat? The story telling? I'd like here what you think?

[2K_Jack]

hi jack, i posted this on dan's forum but he hasnt been on at all, of course you already know this, anyways maybe u could answer some of my questions. :)

See my answers below in CAPS.

1. ive seen the vids of vito having the ability to drink beverages, but does he the ability to eat food?
YES

2. do you see the the animations when eating or are there only beverages available in the game?
YES, YOU SEE THE ANIMATIONS WHEN HE EATS FOOD.

3. can u sit down anywhere? like if u see a bench outisde or a chair/booth in a diner, can you choose to sit?
ALMOST ANYWHERE THAT MAKES SENSE.

4. can you turn on and off the car radio whenever?
YES... EXCEPT FOR ONE VERY SPECIAL MOMENT.

5. if you turn the radio off and exit the car and get back in, will the radio be off? the same when u leave it on?
GOOD QUESTION. I NEVER HAVE THE RADIO OFF, SO I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU GET OUT, THEN GET BACK IN, THE SAME RADIO STATION SHOULD PLAY.

6. can you break the railing of bridges if travelling really fast?
YES, BUT ONLY THE FLIMSY ONES.

7. can u climb ladders, as well as those one's u find on the side of buildings(apartments,etc.)?
NO, THERE ARE STAIRS THAT BRING YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

8. can you push people, if so, hard enough into incoming traffic, train, etc.?
YES, YOU CAN PUSH PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO PUSH PEOPLE INTO TRAFFIC.

9. can you perform side or front rolls?
NO. VITO IS A WISEGUY, NOT A SPACE MARINE OR A SECRET AGENT :)

10. can you pop tires?
YES.

[2K_Jack]

Jack, in your opinion what do you think is Mafia 2 biggest strength? Is it the combat? The story telling? I'd like here what you think?

It's the fact that there's nothing else out there like it. It's the combination of this kind of shooting, driving, fighting, cars, music, characters, theme... all wrapped up in one package and set in a very unique time period in American history.

[2K_Jack]

Jack, I have Xbox 360. Will the console version also get cloth effects? Or it's only available exclusively for Nvidia PC?

Cloth moves on the consoles, but it doesn't do so hyper-realistically like it does on a high-end PC capable of GPU-enhanced PhysX tricks.

[McGee]

It's the fact that there's nothing else out there like it. It's the combination of this kind of shooting, driving, fighting, cars, music, characters, theme... all wrapped up in one package and set in a very unique time period in American history.

So do you think in a way, Mafia 2 is revolutionary? In the sense that it's creating a linear experience, yet set in this large open sandbox world. Usually with sandbox games you'd have lackluster combat, or a lazy plot.

Because I've never seen a game like Mafia 2, that is linear, yet set in a open large city.

[The Darkness]

Hey Jack.

Mafia II is very powerfull on story. did you guys just tried to bring a good story or you tried to say something beyond that too ? you know, like talking about America like The Godfather and how this country is going to influence on people and make them criminal. cause i feel Vito is very sad when he's not a pro killer and when america started to grow up in civilization Vito become a monster like America , something like Michel in The Godfather's trilogy.
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[McGee]

Hey Jack.

Mafia II is very powerfull on story. did you guys just tried to bring a good story or you tried to say something beyond that too ? you know, like talking about America like The Godfather and how this country is going to influence on people and make them criminal. cause i feel Vito is very sad when he's not a pro killer and when america started to grow up in civilization Vito become a monster like America , something like Michel in The Godfather's trilogy.
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I already asked that for you:)

Here's what he replied


1. Yes there is a social commentary buried somewhere in there. It is shown, not told. It's there for the observant to find. After you finish the game, come back and let me know what you think it is. It wasn't a goal or anything, just something I did when working on the dialog.

2. Vito is the main character. He must appeal to the audience and they must identify with him. I know a lot of guys like Vito. Like Vito, their only weakness is the desire to escape humble beginnings and attain success and everything that goes along with it. It's a "weakness" that most men have. On the other hand, most men (our core audience) wouldn't be able to identify with someone who is so weak and pathetic that they're addicted to drugs or they can't get through the day without a drink. You want to use drugs and alcohol, that's fine, but having a main character who lets that define who he is or allows it to limit what he can do, that would have been a mistake in this story.

[Wiseguy88]

But what is sad though for PS3 users, Is that PS3 users don't get moving cloth, I saw the comparisons and PS3 has no moving cloth.

Yes they do...
Or at least I hope so!!!!:confused: Jack said in some posts above that the cloths move on consoles.

[FulcrumX]

Yes they do...
Or at least I hope so!!!!:confused: Jack said in some posts above that the cloths move on consoles.

Correct.

It's just to a much lesser extent than the PC.

But it's still there.

And just because the PC version (when ran at it's full settings) looks better doesn't mean the console versions look bad. Still looks to me like one of the better looking games out there for either console.

[kriauciuniux]

Is there any difrence between cloth movement on ps3 and x360?
Are they the same?

[Jukebox]

Is there any difrence between cloth movement on ps3 and x360?
Are they the same?
Based on Jack's statement, yes both of it will be the same.

[Thymen Molizzo]

Also, technical questions and questions about the gameplay should be directed to 2k Dan.
2k Jack goes more over the creative things, such as the story.. characters.. voice acting.. script..

[packardcaribien]

Jack; the jeep expy in the game and its civilian version made by Walter: what is it called? As in what name pops up when you enter it? I always though the "Steed" would be nice but I've never seen a particularly clever name for a jeep in a videogame yet. ;) The name for the military truck too because I can't tell whether it's a Studebaker or a GMC base; maybe both. :eek:

[frederik129]

Based on Jack's statement, yes both of it will be the same.

ive been told ps3 won't get moving clothes

[Fugue]

how can the clothes not move :confused:

the clothes do move, you can see it happening with peds - eg women wearing dresses/skirts walking along the sidewalk in the PS3 gameplay footage, they move, would look ridiculous if they didn't :rolleyes:

[frederik129]

dude this not gta and it will never be gta so just enjoy what they made

day/night cycle is not GTA only man, what are you talking about?
do you want em to take everything out thats in GTA ?
well, take out cars,driving,ability to move and so on,

[Jukebox]

ive been told ps3 won't get moving clothes
You're wrong. Either 360 or PS3 will get cloth effects. The devs already stated that.

[FulcrumX]

ive been told ps3 won't get moving clothes

then you were told wrong.

[Frankie Potts Killer]

clothes will move on 360 and ps3 just not as good as on the pc.

eg it wont move like this on 360 and ps3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kBAConI2Q (1.24 onward)

but it will still move non the less.

[Cagney89]

You might have another opportunity to experience the winter wonderland version of Empire Bay after you get to the 1950s in the main story, or you might not. This statement will eventually make sense after you've played the game ;)


Interesting... A flashback sequence, perhaps?

[Don_Vito]

Interesting... A flashback sequence, perhaps?

Flashback to when Vito's a kid :D

[packardcaribien]

Jack; I know you stated that the cars in the preorder bonuses weren't taken out of the game but look at this screenshot; on the left is the jeep:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/hickey89/ss.png (http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/hickey89/ss.png)

It was taken out of the E3 '09 Gameplay; long before any preorder bonuses/dlc's were even planned. So what is it doing there if the cars were made especially for the bonus packs; and NOT taken out of the game as you said? :(

[2K_Jack]

Jack; I know you stated that the cars in the preorder bonuses weren't taken out of the game but look at this screenshot; on the left is the jeep:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/hickey89/ss.png (http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/hickey89/ss.png)

It was taken out of the E3 '09 Gameplay; long before any preorder bonuses/dlc's were even planned. So what is it doing there if the cars were made especially for the bonus packs; and NOT taken out of the game as you said? :(

You guys should not presume to know when these things were planned. We planned for preorders and other DLC starting in 2006. Everything we create, whether it's for the main game, DLC, pre-order DLC, or whatever, has a chance to appear in the early demos of the game that we show to the public. These demos are representative of the final game, but you should not expect the exact same cars/guns/clothing etc. to appear in the final game.

[Don_Vito]

You guys should not presume to know when these things were planned. We planned for preorders and other DLC starting in 2006. Everything we create, whether it's for the main game, DLC, pre-order DLC, or whatever, has a chance to appear in the early demos of the game that we show to the public. These demos are representative of the final game, but you should not expect the exact same cars/guns/clothing etc. to appear in the final game.

That was my thoughts exactly.
How will we get the cars and clothes in the game after we enter the codes will they just show up in the garage or closet?

[Jukebox]

You guys should not presume to know when these things were planned. We planned for preorders and other DLC starting in 2006. Everything we create, whether it's for the main game, DLC, pre-order DLC, or whatever, has a chance to appear in the early demos of the game that we show to the public. These demos are representative of the final game, but you should not expect the exact same cars/guns/clothing etc. to appear in the final game.

I hope you guys not remove MP40 and M1 Garand rifle from the game. Those weapons must be available in the final version. Jack, is that any weapons that you removed from the game? If yes, tell me what is that? Please.

[2K_Jack]

I hope you guys not remove MP40 and M1 Garand rifle from the game. Those weapons must be available in the final version. Jack, is that any weapons that you removed from the game? If yes, tell me what is that? Please.

Sorry guys, but I'm not going to respond to any more questions like "what did you remove?" or "what did you cut?" Some of you are speculating and fearing the worst and over-analyzing everything we tell you.

After you complete the game, as I have said previously, I'd love for you to come back to this forum and tell us what you liked and what you didn't, and what you think can be improved in future games. If this information is presented in a clear and concise manner, and there is no whining or debate over this feature vs that feature or this game vs that game, then we will actually read it and may even take it into account when thinking about future games.

[2K_Jack]

That was my thoughts exactly.
How will we get the cars and clothes in the game after we enter the codes will they just show up in the garage or closet?

Not really sure. That's for the producers and programmers to decide. The versions of the game I play already have it activated. I'd assume that it's done as you say.

[McGee]

Jack are you happy with the review score you got from PC ZONE (8/10), or do you feel it could've scored higher?

They mentioned that they felt the storyline was "cold" (as a negative), you have any idea what this could mean?

[2K_Jack]

Jack are you happy with the review score you got from PC ZONE (8/10), or do you feel it could've scored higher?

They mentioned that they felt the storyline was "cold" (as a negative), you have any idea what this could mean?

The only people who are happy with an 8 are the ones who shipped a game they thought would be a 7. That's not us.

I have no idea what that comment could mean. Maybe he was expecting Vito to be wearing a plumber's outfit and rescue a princess, I don't know. All the reviewers I've spoken to have done nothing but praise the story.

[VitoScarletta]

Hi Jack,
How many days are in a chapter? Or is it just one whole day?
Have you beat the game? If u have, what would you score it? How good was it?

[McGee]

The only people who are happy with an 8 are the ones who shipped a game they thought would be a 7. That's not us.

I have no idea what that comment could mean. Maybe he was expecting Vito to be wearing a plumber's outfit and rescue a princess, I don't know. All the reviewers I've spoken to have done nothing but praise the story.

That's great to hear that you don't settle for mediocrity:)

I'm sure it was tempting to make Mafia 2 more open world, and more mainstream. It's a relief it's sticking to it's gun's so to speak.

I just wonder how linearity is considered a negative, when you, denby, and even Alex have mentioned that it's a linear narrative set in a large open city. It seems that the reviewer was expecting gta in the 50's:rolleyes:

[2K_Jack]

Hi Jack,
How many days are in a chapter? Or is it just one whole day?
Have you beat the game? If u have, what would you score it? How good was it?

Most chapters take place over the course of one day in Vito's life.

[McGee]

Jack what is this 10 hours Pc zone mentioned?

I'm hearing crap through alot of forums on how Mafia 2 has become consolized, and how it's not worth there pre-order.

Is the game really 10 hours? Because I thought you guys mentioned it would be 15-20 hours??? :confused:

[2K_Jack]

Jack what is this 10 hours Pc zone mentioned?

I'm hearing crap through alot of forums on how Mafia 2 has become consolized, and how it's not worth there pre-order.

Is the game really 10 hours? Because I thought you guys mentioned it would be 15-20 hours??? :confused:

If people want to whine and freak out over one review, I really couldn't care less. Some of the best games I've played were between 5 and 10 hours long. Mafia II is 15+ on average.

[McGee]

If people want to whine and freak out over one review, I really couldn't care less. Some of the best games I've played were between 5 and 10 hours long. Mafia II is 15+ on average.

Awesome. I don't care how long mafia 2 is, since mafia 1 was about 10 hours for me....but it's annoying as hell to hear people whine about how mafia 2 is a short game, when it's simply based off 1 review:confused:

Btw, Jack was this the gold copy, or was this a beta that PC Zone played? And if so, what's the difference between the 2?

[Thymen Molizzo]

Jack, I know you don't go over the marketing part.
And that this isn't really a question..

But I love the new trailer. The "Ain't that a kick in the head" one.
What do you think of it?

[Vito28]

Hey jack

Dunno if this question has been put foward but can the car and truck engines in the game blow up if you keep revving the hell out of them for too long or not

[2K_Jack]

Btw, Jack was this the gold copy, or was this a beta that PC Zone played? And if so, what's the difference between the 2?

If someone reviews a full game for a published review, it has to be gold. Beta means the game is done and we're just fixing minor bugs. Gold means we've fixed the bugs and we're gonna ship it.

[Saberq]

Come on guys 10 hours is a long game....As Jack said you have games that last 6 hours and you say wow I wanna play again...So Mafia II is long enough to tell its story in a way that was meant to be told....It is not the point to drag the plot but the stay fresh,interesting and refreshing...And they cant make it if it lasts 20 hours...Mass Effect 2 was 25 hours long...but 15 hours you were doing the same thing...shooting droids...So give Jack a break ok...

[McGee]

If someone reviews a full game for a published review, it has to be gold. Beta means the game is done and we're just fixing minor bugs. Gold means we've fixed the bugs and we're gonna ship it.

I see, so they were playing the final product?

So I'm assuming we should see the rest of the reviews (from gaminformer, game pro, other gaming magazines) come in a few weeks?

Also do you plan on picking up the Pc Zone review, and reading it for yourself?

[Saberq]

Yeah one review is the end of it....The game will score 90+ overall who cares about PC zone..It is a matter of taste..

[2K_Jack]

Hey jack

Dunno if this question has been put foward but can the car and truck engines in the game blow up if you keep revving the hell out of them for too long or not

I don't think so.

[2K_Jack]

Jack, I know you don't go over the marketing part.
And that this isn't really a question..

But I love the new trailer. The "Ain't that a kick in the head" one.
What do you think of it?

I was actually in the marketing dept. up until the start of this year :) I think the guys did a great job on the new trailer.

[Thymen Molizzo]

I was actually in the marketing dept. up until the start of this year :) I think the guys did a great job on the new trailer.

Oh, I didn't know that.
And I'll say it again, I really.. really like this trailer. It's going to make the next 27 days go by even slower.

[2K_Jack]

I see, so they were playing the final product?

So I'm assuming we should see the rest of the reviews (from gaminformer, game pro, other gaming magazines) come in a few weeks?

Also do you plan on picking up the Pc Zone review, and reading it for yourself?

From what I know about how reviews work, all of the reviews (and associated web sites' summaries of printed reviews) are all supposed to start coming out on the same day, so **** like this where a summary of one review hits and everyone analyzes the **** out if it, does not happen. I don't know when the reviews will start hitting, but it's probably gonna be soon. When the real review comes out, there is little chance I'll read it. I believe it's from a UK-based magazine and honestly I've never heard of it before. I'm way over here in the US.

[McGee]

From what I know about how reviews work, all of the reviews (and associated web sites' summaries of printed reviews) are all supposed to start coming out on the same day, so **** like this where a summary of one review hits and everyone analyzes the **** out if it, does not happen. I don't know when the reviews will start hitting, but it's probably gonna be soon. When the real review comes out, there is little chance I'll read it. I believe it's from a UK-based magazine and honestly I've never heard of it before. I'm way over here in the US.

Well that magazine was going out of business anyway's...I guess no one bought there magazine. ;)

But if Mafia 3 is in the cards, wouldn't you want to read the reviews and build upon that for future, possible irritations?

[Nastycrew]

Why didnt 2k aim for a worldwide simultaneous release of the game? Its crappy that i have to wait longer than folks in the US.

[FulcrumX]

I believe it's from a UK-based magazine and honestly I've never heard of it before. I'm way over here in the US.

Don't hold it against us :p not all our magazines suck so much.

[FulcrumX]

Why didnt 2k aim for a worldwide simultaneous release of the game? Its crappy that i have to wait longer than folks in the US.

have you thought about importing from the US?

To be honest it's only a couple of days. Not that big a wait.

[McGee]

Don't hold it against us :p not all our magazines suck so much.


Fulcum, you live in England. Could you pick up the magazine on Tuesday?

[FulcrumX]

Fulcum, you live in England. Could you pick up the magazine on Tuesday?

I live in scotland but yeah I probably could. Depending on how much it is and what it's called (i forgot already)

[McGee]

I live in scotland but yeah I probably could. Depending on how much it is and what it's called (i forgot already)

PC Zone. It's the September Issue, and the last.....

[FulcrumX]

PC Zone. It's the September Issue, and the last.....

Okay I'll have a look for it on tuesday.

[McGee]

Jack another review is in from the Official Xbox Magazine, there verdict is a 7/10

They say the city is nice, the soundtrack is good.

They say the characters and surrounding cast you created were boring and don't make the "cut". The action sequences were also lack luster for them, and so were the car chases.

They were very dissapointed.


There words:

the good part:
''the feeling of potential and atmosphere in these early stages of mafia 2 rivals the very best open world world games. The city-especially one small segment of alleyways that is seen when you walk from the roadside to your mother's apartment - is stunningly put together. walking into cafeterias and clothes boutiques, listening to period radio, even just sticking vito's nose against the wall to read games WWII propaganda posters or beautiful textures, you get a sense of craftmanship that makes you think you've got one hell of a game coming up.''

the bad parts (mainly the characters):
''nobody in mafia2, not vito, nor his friends, nor the rest of the extended cosa nostra, is somebody you'd want to spend any amount of time with. good mafia movies (not to mention the mafia game that spawned this one) understand the importance of making their mafiosos entertaining and fundamentally warm people, and then delicately applying the kind of fear and tension that has to exist in an organisation built almost exclusively from career-minded killers. mafia 2's cast don't quite make the grade in any respect. At best they are relatively boring people to be stuck ina car withand the banter routinely reaches such lows as 'says the guy who can barely change a lightbulb'. At worst they are childish, misogynistic idiots. Having quickly repaid his mothers loan, Vito in particular does not seem to have any kind of decent reason for being in the mob besides being work-averse, which doesn't drum up a great deal of sympathy as he 'moiders' his way to riches and respect.''
''which isn't to say the script is completely terrible, it will hold your attention - it just won't give anything back. its exactly the same with the driving and shooting. for all the hundreds of man hours that have gone into making Empire city, mafia's 2 missions feel a little drab. You're not quite driving the cars as much as dragging them through the city...and while the 3rd person based cover based shooting is perfectly satisfying, 95 percent of enemies will spawn run to a certain piece of cover and stay in the same position just popping up and down forever like a target at a funfair. the stealth are missions traditionally the bane of games like this - are actually really fun to play, but there are only a couple of them clocking in at about 8-10 mintues each.

''still throughout it all there is something untouchably seductive about wearing a sharp suit, sat in a bulbous car, travelling down various 1940's american streets with some delta bluesman howling at you fromt he radio. if you can't wait for L.A Noire, Mafia 2 might just make the wait a little bit more bearable.''

[Conal123]

Sh*t.
tbh im dissapointed
Lets see some good reviews

[Saberq]

Dont bother the man with all these reviews.....It is a good game and the real reviews will come after 24th....

[2K_Jack]

Dont bother the man with all these reviews.....It is a good game and the real reviews will come after 24th....

Yes. I get these reviews before you guys do. I cannot talk about them until they hit newsstands or the net, and I don't want to talk about them until they're all in.

All I'll say right now is that people from different cultures and different countries perceive things differently, and each review you read is the opinion of one person. I advise you to play the demo and judge for yourself.

[Conal123]

Jack can u confirm that there will be free roam after the story because im abit confused tbh.
Thanks

[Cagney89]

Jack, what ar your thoughts on the modern Mafia? Do you find them interesting, do you think that there could be an interesting story for a game set in modern times?

[Spiral Static]

Why didnt 2k aim for a worldwide simultaneous release of the game? Its crappy that i have to wait longer than folks in the US.

All media is released on Tuesdays in the U.S., whether it be a DVD, Videogame, or CD. Someone asked about it in an issue of the U.S. OXM, and they said no one knows why it's like that. It just is. I'm sure it's the same in Europe, except on Fridays.

Sh*t.
tbh im dissapointed
Lets see some good reviews

Play the game yourself and come up with your own opinion. Don't trust one or two reviews.

[2K_Jack]

Jack, what ar your thoughts on the modern Mafia? Do you find them interesting, do you think that there could be an interesting story for a game set in modern times?

I think what's most interesting is that like everyone else, the modern mafia has had to evolve and change in reaction to new technologies. Imagine how easy it was for them to communicate in the early 1950s - the only tech they really had available had the phone, and the FBI swore that they didn't even exist.

Now look at what we have today - phone, email, sms, IM, audio and video surveillance etc., all potentially being monitored by authorities who are looking to take them down. I'd imagine the stress level of today's wiseguys is a little higher than it was 60 years ago.

While we could come up with a story set in the modern day, I'm personally partial to historical settings when it comes to story-driven games. It allows us to re-create a time period and a world that no longer exists. The artists really get into it because to them, it's new. When you're creating a realistic modern day setting, it's just not quite as much fun.

If we do end up doing a game with a modern setting, whether it's a Mafia game or not, I'd imagine we'd probably go to exotic locations and other countries, not just make a city that looks like exactly like the ones we live in.

[Wiseguy88]

Does bad dreams really come true?! :eek:
Had two dreams already about poor ratings from reviews and it's happening!
What they don't like about the game though is absolutely ridiculous. Makes no sense...

[Cagney89]

Did you have any inspirations on the period style for the game? Any inspirations for the mobster style in the game? (how they dress, talk, etc.)

[2K_Jack]

All media is released on Tuesdays in the U.S., whether it be a DVD, Videogame, or CD. Someone asked about it in an issue of the U.S. OXM, and they said no one knows why it's like that. It just is. I'm sure it's the same in Europe, except on Fridays.


Play the game yourself and come up with your own opinion. Don't trust one or two reviews.

I'm pretty sure that Tuesday was historically the day where foot traffic was lowest in the music stores, meaning that the least amount of people came into the stores on Tuesdays. So the retailers would release the new music on a Tuesday and promote this date in order to get people into their stores on a day that was traditionally the slowest, increasing overall sales. The people were gonna be there anyway on Friday or Saturday, so I guess that makes sense.

It's like this in the restaurant business as well. Tuesdays are usually pretty dead, so that's when bars and restaurants have their specials and coupons.

[packardcaribien]

Where did you get ideas for the fictional names of cars/guns. Do you have a guy who just comes up with clever names all day? I could do that! :D