Mafia II - Likes & Dislikes

[Vito Scaletta]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.:(

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.:(

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.:D

[throwingks]

How could you possibly know all that?

[Tom2020]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.:(

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.:(

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.:D

1. Never cared for it.
2. Yeah so what? It looks phenomenal anyways...
3. Wrong, it's there.
4. I prefer the garage....
5. They never ditched anything, there trying what works best, and perhaps for them that system works better, also the garage was arcade from day 1, so don't make this sound like a new, recent thing.
6. THEY NEVER DITCHED THE COUNTRY SIDE, IT'S STILL THERE!!!!! Just because it's not on the map, doesn't mean it's not there. For example there's an observatory, which is located in the forest on top of a hill, that's not country side?
7. I have confirmation that's only for the demo, so people can get a feel for all the weapons
8. Meh...preferences again....

[Denomaniac]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.:(

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.:(

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.:D

I think Denby said that theres arcade or realistic mode. Realistic mode is called something else but the definition is the same thing

[Fugue]

I'll wait to actually try something to like or dislike it....

[eddiescarpa112]

Look peoples why dont we just all be grateful that we are getting such a beautiful game if 2k took some features out and put some in arcady things in it will probably make the game better.

[InFAILity Ward]

Dislikes:
Very small map

Likes:
Will be released simontaneously on consoles & PC! (love 2K for this!)
Best damn mafia story ever

[495]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.:(

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.:(

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.:D

Im with you in every regard. :) A True mafia 1 fan, just like me!

Couldnt have said it better!!!

[Vito Scaletta]

I am glad you agree with me 495, As it appears you are as well a true Mafia I fan.:)

[ddennis90]

Likes:What's not to like with an amazing realistic mob game set in the 40's and 50's.

Dislikes:Umm...give me a minute maybe i'll find something. Nope, can't find anything.

[dinge]

I agree with the OP, many things have become more arcade (the game has got to sell right?). Nevertheless, the game looks beyond awesome it's way too hard to top a game like Mafia I in the first place.

Dislikes: The game is more commercial and arcade-ish.

Likes: Everything else became even better.

[Thymen Molizzo]

I believe that the "TE GAME HAZ DO SELL" argument's Bull-feces..
If they really wanted it to sell, they'd have added multiplayer.
Because we all know that is what sells best, nowadays. Most games without seem to get ignored by the majority of people.
I never do play multiplayer, though.

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.
I'm not happy with it, but I can live with it. It's just the garage, and wardrobe.
The weapons however, I dislike. I really hope it was purely for the demo.
As that will, for me, make the game much less fun.

[danik615]

Im with you in every regard. :) A True mafia 1 fan, just like me!

Couldnt have said it better!!!

im adding myself to your little mafia 1 fan secret group lol
i agree with every word
and i really hope the "weapons carrying" and "not loosing remaining bullets in mag when reloading" will depend on difficulty and arcade/simulation mode
really dissapointed that they're cancelled the dynamic car crash system
but i don't really care about manual transmission

[danik615]

I believe that the "TE GAME HAZ DO SELL" argument's Bull-feces..
If they really wanted it to sell, they'd have added multiplayer.
Because we all know that is what sells best, nowadays. Most games without seem to get ignored by the majority of people.
I never do play multiplayer, though.

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.
I'm not happy with it, but I can live with it. It's just the garage, and wardrobe.
The weapons however, I dislike. I really hope it was purely for the demo.
As that will, for me, make the game much less fun.

i totaly agree (except i play multiplayer somtimes)
OT
it would be cool if the game had co-op multiplayer story and mobwors
and you could play 100 (or more) mafia wars (gang wars)
and earn respect by that

[Fugue]

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.

:confused:

like what, what has actually changed that much since the first footage was shown, other than the wardrobe? The garage has always been that way.

as for "realism" how "realistic" is a line of clothes that automatically move when you look at them :rolleyes:

in the first system you could not really see what you were selecting, in the later system you can, it makes more sense imo, the whole one is arcade, one is realistic argument is ridiculous, neither is realistic at all, like the rest of the game...

there are things that I would prefer to see back in the sequel, like losing ammo in dropped magazines & health kits but they are just small game mechanics, which don't really matter to me, from what some who actually played both games have said it's still very much a "Mafia" game.

[Thymen Molizzo]

You're right. They never did show a non-arcade garage.
I believe they had. My bad.

The clothes selection was MORE realistic, as you could actually see multiple clothes hanging in the closet. Just like I can when I open my own closet.
Instead of just seeing one shirt, that magically changes it's appearance to whatever I fancy wearing that day.

[jdwarfer]

I don't like the garage system, which is too arcadish.
I don't really like the small size of the map.
I don't like so much the french dubbing.
I don't like the fact that when the story ends, we can't continue playing.

[Thymen Molizzo]

I don't like the fact that when the story ends, we can't continue playing.

Who said that?

[jdwarfer]

Who said that?

Well, someone here said that but anyway it seems logical to me.
The fact that some stuff like weather is not changing in real time... so if we continue, there will be the same weather, so same period, the time won't pass anymore ?
You know, it's not like GTA 4, where you see days passing, day/night stuff...

Mafia 2 will be over-scripted to death. Every mission will be in specific atmosphere, scripted weather, time... am I wrong ?

[Thymen Molizzo]

You're right about that.
But I'm 90% sure there will be some kind of free-ride or free-roam mode after we've finished the game.

[Fugue]

Mafia 2 will be over-scripted to death. Every mission will be in specific atmosphere, scripted weather, time... am I wrong ?

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

[Anacardo]

I do agree with the garage bit. Even GTAIV doesn't offer something that arcadish. The Garage system in mafia1 looks (keep in mind that we haven't played the game yet) better from this point of view. As for the rest, I'm all for the freeride.

[Thymen Molizzo]

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want, instead of having to do what the developers want you to do.
We want to enjoy the game as it's meant to, but we also want the option to play once the game has finished. We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another...

[jdwarfer]

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want, instead of having to do what the developers want you to do.
We want to enjoy the game as it's meant to, but we also want the option to play once the game has finished. We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another...


We will be able to do whatever we want between two missions, like in Mafia 1.


That's true Mafia 1 was scripted, and when the story ends, it's finished, but we could play the free roam mode, which was quite entertaining.
So, like Mafia 1, Mafia 2 should have a free roam mode, because I'm pretty sure the game will end with the story. So, a free roam mode is needed if we want to keep playing without retry the whole story mode.

[InFAILity Ward]

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

I agree totally, the atmosphere in Mafia I was incredible and unlike any GTA -or any other sandbox free-roam game- I ever played.

Don't let this game transform into one of the many soulless games out there wthout a (proper) story and just missions (excuses) to drive somewhere, kill a person and drive back..

[Fugue]

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want


We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another..

:confused:

isn't that a contradiction....

Mafia 1 = linear movie like game one mission after another.

Mafia 2 = linear movie like game one mission after another, with a little more freedom, I remember that's exactly what Mafia 1 fans were asking for following the release.


So, a free roam mode is needed if we want to keep playing without retry the whole story mode.

agree with that, has anyone actually said there wont be a free ride mode?

[jdwarfer]

agree with that, has anyone actually said there wont be a free ride mode?

Nobody said it will be one neither... I'm quite pessimistic about that. Producers should have mentioned that if there is one, don't you think so ?

[Fugue]

probably, guess we'll know more at/by E3

[Thymen Molizzo]

Can you all do me a favor?
Please just stop acting like everyone played and can remember Mafia I as if it was released a year ago?

It was released what, 7 years ago?
I no longer own it, and can't remember a single bit from it anymore, sadly...
And I'm sure I am not the only one.

[Mafiashock]

I've liked everything I've seen so far. I'm not going to nit pick at things from a demo of an unfinished product. I'll make final judgements on the exact things I do and don't like when I actually play the final version of the game as opposed to watching youtube videos of it.

[Tez Jaggs]

everyone here worried about not having alot of free roam (me included) buy RED DEAD REDEMPTION that will kick mafia's arse in terms of free roam. and RED DEAD REDEMPTION will be game of the year, no doubt about it. cant wait for mafia 2 though!!!!!!

[Thymen Molizzo]

Tezz, we already know you like RDR.
You've said it a million times by now.
Talk about it in a RDR forum instead of a Mafia II forum?

While you're here, talk about Mafia II?

[Tez Jaggs]

Tezz, we already know you like RDR.
You've said it a million times by now.
Talk about it in a RDR forum instead of a Mafia II forum?

While you're here, talk about Mafia II?

i'm just saying as alot of people have been voicing their opinions about lack of free roam and are concerned (me included) their is an alternative with lots of free roam and activities. i know mafia is a linear experience but i was hoping for some decent free roam also.

[Fugue]

Can you all do me a favor?
Please just stop acting like everyone played and can remember Mafia I as if it was released a year ago?

no sorry, and how can you forget what is probably the best story in gaming history ;)

[Thymen Molizzo]

I know that you're only trying to be nice, Tez.
But it almost seemed as if you were trying to advertise. Haha.

Fugue, I was.. 11 or.. 12 at the time.
I can't remember the exact date.
I don't believe I've finished it either.

Anyways, aside from being made by the same company..
And some other simularities, Mafia I and Mafia II are two entire different games.
Just like you can't compare GTA Vice City to GTA San Andreas, or San Andreas to IV.. and so on.
Atleast, that's my opinion.

[jdwarfer]

Anyways, aside from being made by the same company..
And some other simularities, Mafia I and Mafia II are two entire different games.
Just like you can't compare GTA Vice City to GTA San Andreas, or San Andreas to IV.. and so on.
Atleast, that's my opinion.


GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas are made with the same programming and physical/graphical base. So we can compare them.
They are mainly the same. They just have different stories, different characters, and a little graphical enhancement.
There are many more differences between GTA SA and GTA 4, in all aspects.

Mafia 1 and Mafia 2 are not really two different games like GTA SA and GTA 4. Aside from the technical differences, the atmosphere, the way we'll supposed to play, the story based kind of game, it's the same stuff, same feelings.
Maybe it looks far away from Mafia 1, but it's just because many years have passed, and so there are many enhancements possible.
If the devs didn't wait so long between Mafia 1 and Mafia 2, these 2 games could be as much different than GTA Vice City and GTA SA at the begining.

But that's just my opinion :)

[Don_Vito]

I am glad you agree with me 495, As it appears you are as well a true Mafia I fan.:)

Are you trying to say that the rest of us aren't or...

[kriauciuniux]

Not dynamic car damage modeling

[HD Dime]

Mafia II needs more activities, but otherwise it is a master piece.:)

[Fugue]

Not dynamic car damage modeling

they did say it wasn't about 2 yrs ago....


Mafia II needs more activities

:eek:

it really doesn't :p

[jdwarfer]

It's a nice video but for me it's so useless.

They don't talk much about details. Most of the stuff are already known.

[495]

My opinion, since i saw the first news, videos, pictures of mafia 2, back in 2007, was that it should get the most of mafia1, the stuff that made that game THE GREATEST.

Not adding arcadeish garage, not adding wardrobe mini missions, not making the game dumber, not removing anything like car simulation, driving simulation, great story, great gameplay, or anything like that. A true mafia 1 fan will hate mafia 2, if any of the things above happens!!!

And to the guy who said we dont remember mafia 1, i play it almost every day, just a quick drive, a favourite mission, or a crazy jump over the city with the help of those huge ramps. :)

To that aspect, mafia 1 never fails. Its perfect, i know that game like the back of my hand. It has set a standard so high, that ANY GAME would have difficulties passing it.

The latest dev diary, was kinda nice, i like the explossions, the gunfight, the cover, the destructible enviroments, and the overall look of the city. What i didnt like was the driving, the garage, and some other minute things.

3 and a half months to go! :)

[Thymen Molizzo]

And to the guy who said we dont remember mafia 1, i play it almost every day, just a quick drive, a favourite mission, or a crazy jump over the city with the help of those huge ramps. :)


"That guy", me, didn't say nobody remembers Mafia I.
That guy said that not everyone has played, or remembers Mafia I.
I, for example, was 11 or 12 when I played it. Most of the time I just watched my brother play it. That's more then 7 years ago, and I no longer own the game.
Or the console. Yes, I played it at a console. (PS 2. XD)

Everybody keeps referring to Mafia I as if we all still remember the exact storyline, and missions and so on.
Mentioning more-or-less new games like GTA IV, I can understand. It's not all that old yet, so still fresh in our memories. Most people have played it too.

[495]

im afraind you my friend havent played the game of mafia 1.... :)

not only literally, but to play the consolve version is not the same as playing the pc version. its completely different, trust me. do yourself a favor and buy the game, or download it, its worth it...

i was also young when i played it, 14 or 15... and remember it vividly! :)

[Thymen Molizzo]

First, I'm not your friend.
Second, I've played the game. Just a long time ago.
Third, I dislike playing games on the PC.

There's no need for me to play Mafia I. Mafia II isn't a direct sequel.
I remember what I have to remember.

I just don't like how everyone here acts as if each person that wishes to play Mafia II, needs to play Mafia I atleast 100 times before they can do so.

[jdwarfer]

I'm with you my non-friend, don't let them pull you back like this, just because you did not play Mafia 1 :)

[Fugue]

There's no need for me to play Mafia I. Mafia II isn't a direct sequel.

true, but this is a sequel, so the first game can't be ignored as a reference...

particularly when the first game focused so much much on things like a very movie like linear experience with a great story & strong characters, it was very different for its time, and is very important to me that Mafia 2 stays true to that, anything else would be sacrilege :p

[Thymen Molizzo]

true, but this is a sequel, so the first game can't be ignored as a reference...

particularly when the first game focused so much much on things like a very movie like linear experience with a great story & strong characters, it was very different for its time, and is very important to me that Mafia 2 stays true to that, anything else would be sacrilege :p

I don't compare my current girlfriend to my ex-girlfriend either.

[495]

no, but you take advantage of the things you learned with your ex-girlfriend...

[Thymen Molizzo]

I think you might want to rephrase that.
I don't "take adventage" of anything.

[495]

not a smart move on your side then... :D

ps: english its not my first language, but i make myself understood, you just dont want to!

[nothing]

15 hours gameplay

and

map size, from GTA4 is three times smaller :mad:

[Thymen Molizzo]

Taking advantage of a girl is useally meant in a negative way...

I probably know what you meant, but it makes no sense.
Each girl, heck, each person is different. Just because your ex liked one thing, doesn't mean your current does.

If you're going to compare girlfriends, you might get dissapointed because one might've been better at something then another.
This counts for games too.

English isn't my native tongue either, that's Dutch.

[cravens]

15 hours gameplay

and

map size, from GTA4 is three times smaller :mad:

People keep dissing the map size but I think that the map they showed was the part of the map that the public sall during the demos. :D

[Mafiashock]

Seriously? Complaining about 15 f*****g hours of gameplay? 15 hours is perfect for a linear story driven game. This ain't Gta ffs. The first Mafia isn't even that long and I would say it's safe to assume that most people here played that game over numerous times. Find something more important to complain about rather than a video game only taking up 15 hours of your life (which I'm sure everyone here knows that most of us will be playing Mafia 2 for well over 15 hours)

[Fugue]

Mafia 1 seemed like quite a long game to me when I first played it, but that was 2002, now the fact is games are just shorter, am not expecting Mafia 2 to be longer than Mafia 1 for that very reason.

Mafia 1's "map" was small compared to more recent open world games, but I don't ever remember being bothered by the size of the city, ok it was expanded by areas that loaded when you out of the city limits but for the most part those were short sections & most time was spent in the city.

if all you care about is time and scale you're completely missing the point of Mafia imo, there are plenty of games with huge worlds you can wander aimlessly over for as long as you want :p

[nothing]

People keep dissing the map size but I think that the map they showed was the part of the map that the public sall during the demos. :D

i hope. . .

[ME!]

I mean IT cant be smaller then the one in M1! Or can it?

[Vito Scaletta]

I like it that it's 15 hours long, Because the missions we have seen so far, Are so detailed so beautifully built. And tons of action and damage, And smart AI systems. The game has beautiful missions, Just like the original.

I believe MW2 only has 8 hours, Of single player, SplinterCell Conviction only has about 5-8 hours of single player. So for Mafia II 15 hours sounds excellent.

Mafia I was 10 hours long, So Mafia II is perfectly fine for 15 hours.

[nothing]

I like it that it's 15 hours long, Because the missions we have seen so far, Are so detailed so beautifully built. And tons of action and damage, And smart AI systems. The game has beautiful missions, Just like the original.

I believe MW2 only has 8 hours, Of single player, SplinterCell Conviction only has about 5-8 hours of single player. So for Mafia II 15 hours sounds excellent.

Mafia I was 10 hours long, So Mafia II is perfectly fine for 15 hours.

I liked playing time of assassin's creed 2 and is said to be 20 hours gameplay time. I hope the mafia 2 will be so long like Asasssin's Creed II

[danik615]

I liked playing time of assassin's creed 2 and is said to be 20 hours gameplay time. I hope the mafia 2 will be so long like Asasssin's Creed II

yeah man me too
and i hope it'll have tone of side missions

[InFAILity Ward]

im afraind you my friend havent played the game of mafia 1.... :)

not only literally, but to play the consolve version is not the same as playing the pc version. its completely different, trust me. do yourself a favor and buy the game, or download it, its worth it...

i was also young when i played it, 14 or 15... and remember it vividly! :)

+1

As if we are all retarted and can't remember a game for which we are now discussing the sequel among others...

I remember Mafia and it was awesome!

[Fugue]

and i hope it'll have tone of side missions

there wont be, originally there were side missions but a while ago 2K said some had been dropped and the rest integrated into the story.

[danik615]

there wont be, originally there were side missions but a while ago 2K said some had been dropped and the rest integrated into the story.

well that's a shame :(
i thought about side missions like in GTA The Ballad of Gay Tony
or in The Lost And Danmed
like blowing up a car mafiawars (you get to a place with a couple of mobsters
and you start a gunfight againts a group of enemys)
stealing money from a gang
its a real shame they canceled it :(

[jdwarfer]

well that's a shame :(
i thought about side missions like in GTA The Ballad of Gay Tony
or in The Lost And Danmed
like blowing up a car mafiawars (you get to a place with a couple of mobsters
and you start a gunfight againts a group of enemys)
stealing money from a gang
its a real shame they canceled it :(

What you're taliking about is more activities than real missions.

There will be several activities in Mafia 2, but no side mission, I mean real mission with a briefing, that you choose to do or not.
You won't be able to pass over any mission, that's the point.
But between 2 missions, you'll be able to steal money from shops, customise cars, buy clothes...

[Fugue]

its a real shame they canceled it

tbh there were never going to be any GTA style side missions/activities anyway, all they did was take some events/missions that were linked to the story but optional, and remove the option.

[ironbear66]

will anyone else miss Ralph or when u just get the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 (sniper)from Vincenzo sniping bystanders from the stairs, just to run like hell b4 vincenzo beats the crap out of you?

[muzorewa]

Likes:

It's mafia

It's awesome

Dislikes:

Map perhaps a little too small? But i guess there isn't much they can do about that now.

[Ganja]

Likes:

It's mafia

It's awesome

Dislikes:

Map perhaps a little too small? But i guess there isn't much they can do about that now.

..Agreed..

[Vito Scaletta]

One thing that I like today is, We only have 100 days left to wait for Mafia II.:D

When the release date was announced on March 25th.

We were 151 days away until the release. We have passed 51 days and it was fast!

[InFAILity Ward]

One thing that I like today is, We only have 100 days left to wait for Mafia II.:D

When the release date was announced on March 25th.

We were 151 days away until the release. We have passed 51 days and it was fast!

The world cup will at least tick 30 days away.
When it starts I'll be so busy rooting for Algeria and the Netherlands that I will have forgotten all about Mafia II :D

[Vito Scaletta]

One of the things, That I don't like is that when Vito is driving the car...

1. Vito is not animated when the gears shift.
Instead he is static, As the car changes gears. Wich does suck, In all honesty.

2. The crash animation.
The crash animation is very weak, And in other terms sucks.

3. When the car turns.
Vito does not move side to side, Instead he is static. He does turn the steering wheel perfectly fine, But his body stays static.

I hope, They have changed this in the Final version of the game.

Cause I would love to see Vito shifting gears, While driving, It would make the driving even better.

[Vito Scaletta]

One of the things that I don't like is...

This is a photo of, Clemente'

Photo : http://mafia-daily.net/wp-content/gallery/mafia-2-screenshots/frankie_potts_screen_09.jpg

I show this photo, Cause I don't know why in Mafia II, Rarely anybody has cuffs.

I personally do not like it that, 95% of every person in Mafia II has no cuffs in there suit.

To me it ruins the mobster suit style.

Might be different, In the final version... I hope so

[jarbas77]

maybe the time of the game is short just 15h is small for a game

but the rest is perfect

[Don Luka]

I believe that the "TE GAME HAZ DO SELL" argument's Bull-feces..
If they really wanted it to sell, they'd have added multiplayer.
Because we all know that is what sells best, nowadays. Most games without seem to get ignored by the majority of people.
I never do play multiplayer, though.

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.
I'm not happy with it, but I can live with it. It's just the garage, and wardrobe.
The weapons however, I dislike. I really hope it was purely for the demo.
As that will, for me, make the game much less fun.

I agree completely. I am still hoping that there will be an arcady version (that would have the new wardrobe for example) and a realistic version ( that would have the old version).;) However I wouldnt mind if they made you have the arcady wardrobe, 8 gun system, garage... because the game will still be ACE!!:D

[dinge]

One of the things, That I don't like is that when Vito is driving the car...

1. Vito is not animated when the gears shift.
Instead he is static, As the car changes gears. Wich does suck, In all honesty.

2. The crash animation.
The crash animation is very weak, And in other terms sucks.

3. When the car turns.
Vito does not move side to side, Instead he is static. He does turn the steering wheel perfectly fine, But his body stays static.

I hope, They have changed this in the Final version of the game.

Cause I would love to see Vito shifting gears, While driving, It would make the driving even better.
You don't hold back to tell your honest opinion, I like that. As for the gear shifting, don't American cars have automatic transmission?


Likes:
The realistic driving (I frankly expected arcade so this is my number one).
Probably an awesome story.
Same devs as Mafia I (huge plus).
Non dynamic weather (adds feeling and brings the player closer to the game).
Destructibility.
Level of detail and a city that supposedly feels "alive".
Great community :D.
Everything else about Mafia II that's not in the dislike section.


Dislikes:
Holding too many main-guns.
Not losing ammo when reloading (like in M1).
Storing the car in an arcade-ish way.
Cars explode when being hit by bullets or when crashing.


Hopes:
Vitto isn't able to buy 20 houses in the city like in GTA games.
Vitto dies fast (one or two good hits).
Lots of easter-eggs like in Mafia I.

[Vito Scaletta]

It appears me and you completely agree again, Even on what Like and Dislike, Lol.

About the American cars thing, Yea American cars had Automatic Transmissions even back then in the 40's/50's.

But when Vito was driving the Austin Healey in the GamePro video.
From the best of my knowladge it's a Manual Transmission car.

One thing I do like though Dinge about the Car Suspension, As in the latest video from the " Dev Diary #2 " if you look at the wheels of the Bel Air as it rolls into the garage the car suspension in Mafia II is insane!

[dinge]

Well it's hard for me to be impressed by cars because I don't know squat about them lol. As long as it's impossible to take a turn at 200 km/h (so yeah, GTA) I'm fine with it :D.

[Vito Scaletta]

Lol, Yea It appears Mafia II will have really fast cars when you modify there engines.

So I will get a kick out of souping up some old cars.:D

[Marcquez]

You don't hold back to tell your honest opinion, I like that. As for the gear shifting, don't American cars have automatic transmission?


Likes:
The realistic driving (I frankly expected arcade so this is my number one).
Probably an awesome story.
Same devs as Mafia I (huge plus).
Non dynamic weather (adds feeling and brings the player closer to the game).
Destructibility.
Level of detail and a city that supposedly feels "alive".
Great community :D.
Everything else about Mafia II that's not in the dislike section.


Dislikes:
Holding too many main-guns.
Not losing ammo when reloading (like in M1).
Storing the car in an arcade-ish way.
Cars explode when being hit by bullets or when crashing.


Hopes:
Vitto isn't able to buy 20 houses in the city like in GTA games.
Vitto dies fast (one or two good hits).
Lots of easter-eggs like in Mafia I.


totally agreed ;)

[brynje]

a little add-on to the transmission debate... I think that you changed gear with a little "stick" on the steering wheel on many cars in that period. So not between the seats as today. Not sure tho

[Styvesant]

a little add-on to the transmission debate... I think that you changed gear with a little "stick" on the steering wheel on many cars in that period. So not between the seats as today. Not sure tho

I think that it's still used in the US. That type of shifting.

[Fugue]

I drove a car with one of those once, nearly had a bad crash :D

[brynje]

I think that it's still used in the US. That type of shifting.

yeh they still use it :p not in modern cars tho

[Wiseguy88]

I really don't like the police radio...doesn't feel that authentic
And also the garage system. I want it like in Mafia 1. I want to gather all my cadillacs in one huge backyard!

[Don_Vito]

Stop reviving old threads

[Wiseguy88]

Stop reviving old threads

Rather do that than posting a new thread about this.
Actually just came up what I dislike about the game :p

[Mafiashock]

Rather do that than posting a new thread about this.
Actually just came up what I dislike about the game :p

You either get slammed for making a new thread on a topic that's already started or you get slammed for actually searching and posting in a thread already created. You can't win with these guys lol. If you would of made a new thread stating your opinions you would be getting backlash for not using the search feature lmao.

[rimesire]

the small size of the map? are you guys stupid or what. its 10 square km, twice the size of the first one, which was pretty big to begin with.

[cravens]

what I dont loike about this game is that you can not choose to take your hat on and off. It looks so stupid sometimes walking around with a hat that dose not match your oufit. Other than that one problem I think this game is amazing. :D

[Don_Vito]

what I dont loike about this game is that you can not choose to take your hat on and off. It looks so stupid sometimes walking around with a hat that dose not match your oufit. Other than that one problem I think this game is amazing. :D

haha obviously the designers are going to make the clothes match...unlike GTA IV :p

[ThaCrip]

the OP's #8 is about the main thing i am going to miss because it added slight strategy to the shooting.

other than that i don't really miss to much else as far as i can tell.

[chalkman]

haha obviously the designers are going to make the clothes match...unlike GTA IV :p

That is so true!

[Rook24]

They also havent ditched the Gamescon Clothes selection. 2kJack has confirmed it still in.

[Ljud]

Does anyone knows if the gamescom "side mission" is still in the final game? That mission was really sweet. Killing guard from behind and hiding his body, burning cars, awesome explosion that knocks Vito to the ground and some nice driving (police cars crashing, hiding from police and using your horn so a truck moves out of your way)

That mission sold Mafia II to me.

[Patriot1]

I'll wait to actually try something to like or dislike it....


You read my mind there, i feel the same way, will play the game, then judge what i like and what i don't.

[Rook24]

Dislikes the fact they changed the fatman mission to a summer backdrop. I prefered the winter backdrop.

And also the "new" wardrobe system unlike the Gamescon one which was nicer.

Other than that bring on August 27th!

[Mafiashock]

Dislikes the fact they changed the fatman mission to a summer backdrop. I prefered the winter backdrop.

And also the "new" wardrobe system unlike the Gamescon one which was nicer.

Other than that bring on August 27th!

I think the summer backdrop is only for demo purposes. I think I heard them say that it will be a winter setting in the final game.

[glesson]

The Fatman mission will be set in the winter in the final game. After all it's in the beginning of the storyline as far as we are informed.

[chalkman]

I like the fact that the same writers are writing this story. That is great news for Mafia fans.

I dislike the fact that the countryside is very limited in comparison to the first game, and that there will be no manual shifting.

[Rook24]

I hope your both right. :)

[Muffin]

I really like the winter time in the game... I think I even like it better than the summer...

[Rook24]

Same here. plus i prefer the 40s

Winter and 40s with a overcoat/fedora i like :)

[Muffin]

Same here. plus i prefer the 40s

Winter and 40s with a overcoat/fedora i like :)

Totally! But the 50's are nice too

[zaland]

moreover, no boats,motorbikes,bicycles,snipers and swiming.

[andrew.]

Likes
-story (duh)
-cover system and destructability
-music


Dislikes
-no blindfire
-big ugly crosshair
-no swimming (not that i plan on doing so but for an open world environment swimming should be included)
-no taxis
-vitos other gun isn't visible when he is not using it
-PS3 exclusive

[Mafiashock]

Can the cross hair be changed? Personally I don't care at all about no swimming and public transportation.

Likes
Atmosphere
Mafia story
The cars
The characters
The fact it's a linear story driven game and not a sandbox one
No multiplayer
Same people who made Mafia (one of my favorite games ever)

Dislikes
None until I actually play the game.

[tanner0079]

likes- driving system, cover system, combat, dont die when you touch water, story, seasons, time span, music, car shop, lock picking, cop system, hanging around house, and city size. dislikes- NONE YET

[King123]

likes everything except no multiplayer

[Rook24]

Likes
Story- It looks great with the 10 year time frame.
Characters- Lots of them, no matter how major or minor. A improvemment from the first Mafia.
Ability to change clothes.
Hats and overcoats.
Car customization.
Winter setting.
The music- both soundtrack and actual artists from the era.

Dislikes
PS3 Exclusive (my main dislike)
Revamped wardrobe (not the end of the world though)
The fact my PC cant handle it

[Muffin]

Like everything except the fact that there aren't any side-missions, that you can't hail a cab or catch the bus (don't like the "everyone who uses public transportation is stupid" policy)... REALLY like the car costumization...

[McGee]

Like everything except the fact that there aren't any side-missions, that you can't hail a cab or catch the bus (don't like the "everyone who uses public transportation is stupid" policy)... REALLY like the car costumization...

It's no different than Mafia 1...gta fan boy..

[Rook24]

It's no different than Mafia 1...gta fan boy..

Gta fan boy? Just because of that minor thing? Now thats just silly...

[Ganja]

I like how it looks.


I dislike how its not out yet.

[Meskis]

Only a few dislikes:

Cars explode when being hit by bullets or when crashing.
In snowy weather no snow on car's wheels.
Too much info about story and characters.
Different stuff for DLC's
:o

[Nastycrew]

The Crosshair looks awful imo.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1170/mafia2o.png

[Nastycrew]

Only a few dislikes:
In snowy weather no snow on car's wheels.
o

I dont think its possible for the snow to stay on the tyres in high speed, why do you even care about that? come on dude.. Do you dislike that Vito has black hair aswell?

[Muffin]

It's no different than Mafia 1...gta fan boy..

First off in Mafia I there are side-missions (Luca Bertone), second there are public transport in Mafia I, third I never played GTA (any of them) so F*** OFF!

[McGee]

First off in Mafia I there are side-missions (Luca Bertone), second there are public transport in Mafia I, third I never played GTA (any of them) so F*** OFF!

What's your point? In Mafia 2 they have side missions like in Mafia 1....if you've been reading the 2k Jack thread...

[Don_Vito]

What's your point? In Mafia 2 they have side missions like in Mafia 1....if you've been reading the 2k Jack thread...

no they've been merged with the story

[McGee]

no they've been merged with the story

JUST how Mafia 1 side missions were:rolleyes:

[Vito Scaletta]

JUST how Mafia 1 side missions were:rolleyes:

Yea, But in Mafia I they were optional, You don't have to work for Lucas.

[Don_Vito]

JUST how Mafia 1 side missions were:rolleyes:

I was referring to Mafia IIs

[Wiseguy88]

To know how the side missions are intergrated in the game, take a look at the GDC videos.

[McGee]

To know how the side missions are intergrated in the game, take a look at the GDC videos.

Actually no, it's been changed since then...so not a good example...since there integrated into the story..

[Wiseguy88]

Actually no, it's been changed since then...so not a good example...since there integrated into the story..

Vito gets a call from Giuseppe to go get a sheet of paper, then Steve shows up and gives Vito another mission while Vito is on his way to Giuseppe. Of course it can be integrated into the story this way? Or did they change it completely? :confused:

[McGee]

Vito gets a call from Giuseppe to go get a sheet of paper, then Steve shows up and gives Vito another mission while Vito is on his way to Giuseppe. Of course it can be integrated into the story this way? Or did they change it completely? :confused:

Yeah, it's going to be more SEAMLESS...so it won't really feel like a side mission.....also many of the side missions had gotten cut, and only a few made it in.

[Wiseguy88]

Yeah, it's going to be more SEAMLESS...so it won't really feel like a side mission.....also many of the side missions had gotten cut, and only a few made it in.

Not quite sure I understand, but okey.
We haven't seen any gameplay footage when they are showing how this "new" side mission function will work out?

[McGee]

Not quite sure I understand, but okey.
We haven't seen any gameplay footage when they are showing how this "new" side mission function will work out?

Okay let me try to say this more simpler...

It won't feel as your doing a side mission...

An no we haven't seen this yet...it's one the many "cuts" they've done to help improve the cinematic nature of the game.

[Meskis]

I dont think its possible for the snow to stay on the tyres in high speed, why do you even care about that? come on dude.. Do you dislike that Vito has black hair aswell?
I am talking about cars, who stay on streets. And something are gonna change that i said that? The game is done. And others can speak s**** about trains, taxis and that Vito can't swim, but i can't say something? What is wrong with you?

[FulcrumX]

I dislike not being able to buy up businesses and property.

I dislike the fact it's only got 15 hours worth of gameplay.

I dislike the lack of side missions.


I LOVE everything else about it.

[Mafiashock]

Oh great yet another one to add to the numerous amounts of pissin and moaning because of the lack of gta qualities. 15 hours, no side missions and less gta elements are all likes for me.

[FulcrumX]

Oh great yet another one to add to the numerous amounts of pissin and moaning because of the lack of gta qualities. 15 hours, no side missions and less gta elements are all likes for me.

nothing to do with GTA.

I don't even like GTA games.


Nice of you to jump to conclusions though. *Removed by Precarious*

[Jcrusher]

I like the realism and how it portrays the mafia. I think its great we get to see a real induction ceremony unlike the one in the Godfather game. Someone was pissing and moaning about 15 hours of gameplay but 15 hours is a long time unless your ass is attached to the carpet in front of the tv. Anyway this looks like the best and most realistic mob game yet

[FulcrumX]

I like the realism and how it portrays the mafia. I think its great we get to see a real induction ceremony unlike the one in the Godfather game. Someone was pissing and moaning about 15 hours of gameplay but 15 hours is a long time unless your ass is attached to the carpet in front of the tv. Anyway this looks like the best and most realistic mob game yet

That someone was me. And 15hours is nothing.

That's 3 hours a day for five days.

I'll probably complete it within the first three days if it's only 15hours.

Games used to be longer, even recent games like Uncharted and Dead Space were longer.

[Fugue]

it depends how you play, Dead Space on Easy is a very short game which is true of most games, single player games have been getting shorter for a long time, if you don't take your time I would say most are sub 10 hours now.

a lot I could easily finish in a day, but that doesn't mean they are bad...

[FulcrumX]

it depends how you play, Dead Space on Easy is a very short game which is true of most games, single player games have been getting shorter for a long time, if you don't take your time I would say most are sub 10 hours now.

a lot I could easily finish in a day, but that doesn't mean they are bad...

No I'm not saying it will be a bad game I'm sure it will be a great game while it lasts I just wish it was lasting a little longer.

[Fugue]

we all want that, but unfortunately with DLC we have to pay for that now :o

[FulcrumX]

we all want that, but unfortunately with DLC we have to pay for that now :o

oh that's true I was forgetting about the DLC. And I'm getting it for the PS3 which is getting extra dlc.

oh well.

[Mafiashock]

nothing to do with GTA.

I don't even like GTA games.


Nice of you to jump to conclusions though. *Removed by Precarious*

Whether you like gta or not...your list of dislikes are all in favor of gta elements. 15 hours is not too short. If it's anything like the first game then mafia 2 will be replayed by alot of people for several years.

[FulcrumX]

Whether you like gta or not...your list of dislikes are all in favor of gta elements. 15 hours is not too short. If it's anything like the first game then mafia 2 will be replayed by alot of people for several years.

I didn't have GTA in mind when I mentioned any of my dislikes. Just admit it, you jumped to conclusions based on some bull**** generalisation and now you're to afraid to admit you were wrong.


And 15 hours is short. That means if you play it for 3 hours a day the game will be finished within five days which means someone like myself who tends to play games for more than 3 hours a day will complete Mafia 2 in two or three days.

That is very, very, very short. I've played lots of games with a linear story that have lasted longer.

[gangsterlife]

I didn't have GTA in mind when I mentioned any of my dislikes. Just admit it, you jumped to conclusions based on some bull**** generalisation and now you're to afraid to admit you were wrong.


And 15 hours is short. That means if you play it for 3 hours a day the game will be finished within five days which means someone like myself who tends to play games for more than 3 hours a day will complete Mafia 2 in two or three days.

That is very, very, very short. I've played lots of games with a linear story that have lasted longer.

It doesn't matter if you like to rush the game, that is up to you, but if you take your time on the game it would last longer

[Mafiashock]

I didn't have GTA in mind when I mentioned any of my dislikes. Just admit it, you jumped to conclusions based on some bull**** generalisation and now you're to afraid to admit you were wrong.


And 15 hours is short. That means if you play it for 3 hours a day the game will be finished within five days which means someone like myself who tends to play games for more than 3 hours a day will complete Mafia 2 in two or three days.

That is very, very, very short. I've played lots of games with a linear story that have lasted longer.

I didn't jump to conclusions. It doesn't even matter if you were thinking about gta or not. The fact is that your listed dislikes are in favor of gta qualities. You're the one jumping to conclusions assuming that I was calling you a gta fan boy or liking gta. I never said any of that. Only thing I pointed out was that your dislikes are what gta games are all about.

[Jcrusher]

That someone was me. And 15hours is nothing.

That's 3 hours a day for five days.

I'll probably complete it within the first three days if it's only 15hours.

Games used to be longer, even recent games like Uncharted and Dead Space were longer.

Well as many people have said quality over quantity. I think one of the reasons why this game isn't getting noticed is because it is very character driven which is different than most games which are just about action. I still think 15 hours is a long time I mean how long did you expect 50 hours lol. That would take years

[FulcrumX]

I didn't jump to conclusions. It doesn't even matter if you were thinking about gta or not. The fact is that your listed dislikes are in favor of gta qualities. You're the one jumping to conclusions assuming that I was calling you a gta fan boy or liking gta. I never said any of that. Only thing I pointed out was that your dislikes are what gta games are all about.

You're still jumping to conclusions. GTA isn't the only game that those qualities are in favour of.


I was thinking more along the lines of The Godfather games (not great games by any means but they had some small elements which helped keep it entertaining), the scarface game (again not great but had elements like owning businesses etc which were quite entertaining). Then of course the gameplay was related more to Games like Uncharted, Dead Space, Assassins Creed (to name the more recent ones) which last me about 20 hours each (at least).


Those "qualities" I mentioned apply to more than just GTA. But you didn't see that. You only saw GTA.




@ the other guy not 50 hours, 30 would have been nice. Especially considering it's only the main story. Most games which have only 10-15 hours of single player gameplay also have multiplayer or other game modes to intice you to continue playing.

If it's going to be a single player story driven campaign then they should really make it last instead of having it all over within 4 days.

[Mafiashock]

If it's going to be a single player story driven campaign then they should really make it last instead of having it all over within 4 days.

I think 2k Jack said there is a free ride mode with some extra things to do after the story is done. He wouldn't go into detail on it though. Even with the story alone I can guarantee you that alot of people here who have truly been looking forward to the game will put in way more than 15 hours into mafia 2. I still replay mafia to this day and that's just because of the story alone.

[FulcrumX]

I think 2k Jack said there is a free ride mode with some extra things to do after the story is done. He wouldn't go into detail on it though. Even with the story alone I can guarantee you that alot of people here who have truly been looking forward to the game will put in way more than 15 hours into mafia 2. I still replay mafia to this day and that's just because of the story alone.

Oh no, don't misunderstand me. I've been looking forward to this game for years and I've no doubt it will be brilliant (it's actually the only game being released this year that I'm truly excited about).

I just think it's becoming a trend with video games these days for them to be quite short. So few video games nowadays last longer than 15hours. It's dissapointing that's all.

[McGee]

Oh no, don't misunderstand me. I've been looking forward to this game for years and I've no doubt it will be brilliant (it's actually the only game being released this year that I'm truly excited about).

I just think it's becoming a trend with video games these days for them to be quite short. So few video games nowadays last longer than 15hours. It's dissapointing that's all.

What?

Hmm

Uncharted 2: 12 hours
Bioshock 2: 6 hours
Alan Wake: 10 hours
Red Dead Redemption: 20 hours

Honestly Mafia 2 being 15-20 hours for a LINEAR game, not an SANDBOX game like GTA is unbelievable!

That's an EPIC for single player game.

[Mafiashock]

Oh no, don't misunderstand me. I've been looking forward to this game for years and I've no doubt it will be brilliant (it's actually the only game being released this year that I'm truly excited about).

I just think it's becoming a trend with video games these days for them to be quite short. So few video games nowadays last longer than 15hours. It's dissapointing that's all.

Ya I understand. Didn't mean to get rude with you. My apologies.

[Mafiashock]

What?

Hmm

Uncharted 2: 12 hours
Bioshock 2: 6 hours
Alan Wake: 10 hours
Red Dead Redemption: 20 hours

Honestly Mafia 2 being 15-20 hours for a LINEAR game, not an SANDBOX game like GTA is unbelievable!

That's an EPIC for single player game.

it's kind of hard to peg down play times like that though. Everybody plays at their own pace...it usually takes me longer to complete games than the completion times that leak on the internet. I think that 15 hour estimate was just going through the story and not doing any free roaming or anything else at all. I'm guessing it will take me over 20 hours to complete everything.

[Fugue]

I just think it's becoming a trend with video games these days for them to be quite short. So few video games nowadays last longer than 15hours. It's dissapointing that's all.

it's disappointing if you're left disappointed at the end, but quantity doesn't = quality and anything can be strung out if a developer wants to, but all you really end up with is a lot of repetition.

I'm not really bothered by the measure of hours of gameplay, I have finished games in a day before but that's only because it has me hooked, which is a good thing, if you think about it ;)

don't think there are many games I've bought recently that I haven't finished in a day or two, am sure the same will true of Mafia 2, if I don't there'll be something very wrong with it.

[HD Dime]

I looked at the first pg of this thread and my anwser is... it's an F'n video game not real life. I hate parking spots. I think anyone would be pissed if they could only carry one or two weapons. Like cmon, if you want it totally realistic, ect, GO JOIN THE REAL MAFIA:cool: !!!!!! And guess what, life isn't fair!:D :p

[Spiral Static]

I'd definitely rather have a 15 hour game with missions as varied as the first Mafia than play a 25 hour game where you're doing the same thing over and over again, like GTA4. I mean, it was a good game, but how the hell did all the critics overlook all of its flaws?

[im the don kind]

likes:

almost everything ive seen

dislikes:

I dislike how it seems to be that after the 15 story missions (i know its kinda long, and not really disappointed) i feel there will be nothing to do.

i dislike how theres not much free roam/ actual free roam and other activities that we have heard of.

Im all for quality over quantity, but theres got to be more to the game to do than the SP missions.

[McGee]

likes:

almost everything ive seen

dislikes:

I dislike how it seems to be that after the 15 story missions (i know its kinda long, and not really disappointed) i feel there will be nothing to do.

i dislike how theres not much free roam/ actual free roam and other activities that we have heard of.

Im all for quality over quantity, but theres got to be more to the game to do than the SP missions.

Well it's like Uncharted 2, or Bioshock. This game isn't a sandbox, period. Sure it may have qualities of a sandbox game, but that's only to support the narrative.

So don't think Mafia 2 as GTA, or Saints Row. But rather other linear games like Alan Wake, Bioshock, or Uncharted 2. Because this is what Mafia 2 is.

[Spiral Static]

Well it's like Uncharted 2, or Bioshock. This game isn't a sandbox, period. Sure it may have qualities of a sandbox game, but that's only to support the narrative.

So don't think Mafia 2 as GTA, or Saints Row. But rather other linear games like Alan Wake, Bioshock, or Uncharted 2. Because this is what Mafia 2 is.

The funniest thing is that if Mafia 2 didn't have an open world, nobody would be complaining. Nobody complained about Bioshock not having things to do. If you think of it as a linear game, but just with a very detailed world, it makes it seem so much better.

[McGee]

The funniest thing is that if Mafia 2 didn't have an open world, nobody would be complaining. Nobody complained about Bioshock not having things to do. If you think of it as a linear game, but just with a very detailed world, it makes it seem so much better.

Yeah, but with Mafia 2 they don't want distractions. They constructed this beautiful narrative for us to follow. Everything that is in the world is there for the narrative.

Clothes Store-Some missions will require you changing clothes, and escaping the police (by changing your clothes)

Restaurants-Some missions will take place in various restaurants (like the Maltease Falcon, or the Mona Lisa Bar) but are there to support the narrative. Also you could buy food to help boost your health, and energy.

Car shop-Cars are a HUGE aspect of Mafia 2, and since your driving half of the time, they want your car to feel personal. So that's why you can modify it.

Gas Stations-Fill up your car

Car Washes-Wash your car

So even though this may not seem like ALOT, you have to remember this is just to support the game.

[im the don kind]

Well it's like Uncharted 2, or Bioshock. This game isn't a sandbox, period. Sure it may have qualities of a sandbox game, but that's only to support the narrative.

So don't think Mafia 2 as GTA, or Saints Row. But rather other linear games like Alan Wake, Bioshock, or Uncharted 2. Because this is what Mafia 2 is.

Yes i know this, i do not want the game to be like gta, i just want some replay value, sure i can play the missions a few times but thats not gonna be all fun is it? especially if i know whats gonna happen.

I know its not a sandbox game but at lease a few activities is what would be awesome and what i really want, like racing, shoot clubs and maybe something like a hit list (Something like wanted from RDR) where higher leveled people in the family want certain people killed.

If the game does not have this, then its still good and will be a amazing game none the less, but for me, it would improve the game.

[McGee]

Yes i know this, i do not want the game to be like gta, i just want some replay value, sure i can play the missions a few times but thats not gonna be all fun is it? especially if i know whats gonna happen.

I know its not a sandbox game but at lease a few activities is what would be awesome and what i really want, like racing, shoot clubs and maybe something like a hit list (Something like wanted from RDR) where higher leveled people in the family want certain people killed.

If the game does not have this, then its still good and will be a amazing game none the less, but for me, it would improve the game.

I see what your saying...But those are distractions. This game is 100% focused on Vito's life, and his time in the mod. None of those things support the narrative...

[im the don kind]

I see what your saying...But those are distractions. This game is 100% focused on Vito's life, and his time in the mod. None of those things support the narrative...

Ahh i see, that makes sense then.

Surly, if theres a free mode ( a mode wheres theres no mission, that you unlock at the end) there could be some of the activities i listed.

[Spiral Static]

Yeah, but with Mafia 2 they don't want distractions. They constructed this beautiful narrative for us to follow. Everything that is in the world is there for the narrative.

Clothes Store-Some missions will require you changing clothes, and escaping the police (by changing your clothes)

Restaurants-Some missions will take place in various restaurants (like the Maltease Falcon, or the Mona Lisa Bar) but are there to support the narrative. Also you could buy food to help boost your health, and energy.

Car shop-Cars are a HUGE aspect of Mafia 2, and since your driving half of the time, they want your car to feel personal. So that's why you can modify it.

Gas Stations-Fill up your car

Car Washes-Wash your car

So even though this may not seem like ALOT, you have to remember this is just to support the game.

Yeah, I totally get this concept. Mafia II wouldn't work without an open world, but it also wouldn't work with too many distractions. If the main story was split like RDR, it would ruin the narrative. Also, it's okay that there's not much to do because it really is like a real city. I think this is the first game where the police arrest other people.

[HD Dime]

You can free roam during missions, and after missions, as said in the podcast "to end a mission after completed, find Vito a bed, until then free roam" So we can eat, dress, work on our cars, drink, watch tv, listen to music, Mabe play darts(like every bar iv'e seen has darts), hang with friends(optional, not like GTA IV where they call you all the time, on a cell phone)
There's a lot to do, that's for sure!:)

Does anyone think we could do darts, like every bar realisticly has them?

[Spiral Static]

You can free roam during missions, and after missions, as said in the podcast "to end a mission after completed, find Vito a bed, until then free roam" So we can eat, dress, work on our cars, drink, watch tv, listen to music, Mabe play darts(like every bar iv'e seen has darts), hang with friends(optional, not like GTA IV where they call you all the time, on a cell phone)
There's a lot to do, that's for sure!:)

Does anyone think we could do darts, like every bar realisticly has them?

You can't watch TV, you can't hang with friends, and you can't play darts. Where did you hear that you could do all of those things?

[FulcrumX]

I'd definitely rather have a 15 hour game with missions as varied as the first Mafia than play a 25 hour game where you're doing the same thing over and over again,

I'd rather play a 25hour game with missions varied like the first mafia.

Why is it one or the other? You CAN have both quantity and quality.

[McGee]

I'd rather play a 25hour game with missions varied like the first mafia.

Why is it one or the other? You CAN have both quantity and quality.

lol 25 hours? Then they would have to span the game 20 years...

Honestly 15-20 hours is HUGE for a game like Mafia 2. There should be no quanity, only story.

[Wiseguy88]

Seeing many people are talking about the length of Mafia 2. How long did it take for you to complete Mafia 1?

[FulcrumX]

lol 25 hours? Then they would have to span the game 20 years...

Honestly 15-20 hours is HUGE for a game like Mafia 2. There should be no quanity, only story.

15-20 hours is not huge for any game.


Why shouldn't there be quantity? "Once upon a time in America" is a VERY long movie way above average but the story and character development is second to none.

You CAN have both.

[McGee]

15-20 hours is not huge for any game.


Why shouldn't there be quantity? "Once upon a time in America" is a VERY long movie way above average but the story and character development is second to none.

You CAN have both.

Mafia 2=Story

not side missions.

[FulcrumX]

Mafia 2=Story

not side missions.

I never said anything about side missions. The story can last more than 15 hours with longer missions or more missions. Taking more time to develop characters and adding in extra problems/hurdles for the main character to overcome.

There's been Linear Story type games that have a longer lifespan before. It's been done and it's been done well.

[Spiral Static]

15-20 hours is not huge for any game.


Why shouldn't there be quantity? "Once upon a time in America" is a VERY long movie way above average but the story and character development is second to none.

You CAN have both.

Are you really comparing a movie to a videogame like that? That's like saying an album is short because it took you longer to finish a book. That is bad logic.

[FulcrumX]

Are you really comparing a movie to videogame like that? That's like saying an album is short because it took you longer to finish a book. That is bad logic.

I was drawing the example to show you can have BOTH quantity and quality.

There's plenty of games that are the same. Are you really saying you've never played a game that has more than 15 hours of gameplay and has a brilliant story?

There's not many recent games, a lot of older games but not many recent ones. Uncharted, Dead Space, Heavy Rain, from the top of my head but it all depends on difficulty played and if you're trying to collect the trophies etc.

I feel really sorry for you if you've never played a game with a great story that lasts more than 12-15 hours of gameplay. That's quite sad, you're really missing out on some great games.

[McGee]

I was drawing the example to show you can have BOTH quantity and quality.

There's plenty of games that are the same. Are you really saying you've never played a game that has more than 15 hours of gameplay and has a brilliant story?

There's not many recent games, a lot of older games but not many recent ones. Uncharted, Dead Space, Heavy Rain, from the top of my head but it all depends on difficulty played and if you're trying to collect the trophies etc.

I feel really sorry for you if you've never played a game with a great story that lasts more than 12-15 hours of gameplay. That's quite sad, you're really missing out on some great games.

Lol what?!?! Hold on all those games you listed barely take that long, wow....if those games take out that much time, then mafia 2 will probably take you 30 hours. :rolleyes:

[Wiseguy88]

Lol what?!?! Hold on all those games you listed barely take that long, wow....if those games take out that much time, then mafia 2 will probably take you 30 hours. :rolleyes:

I thought you missunderstood American McGee. I think he meant that games today are shorter and those games are an example of that. Or maybe I missunderstood...

[Spiral Static]

I was drawing the example to show you can have BOTH quantity and quality.

There's plenty of games that are the same. Are you really saying you've never played a game that has more than 15 hours of gameplay and has a brilliant story?

There's not many recent games, a lot of older games but not many recent ones. Uncharted, Dead Space, Heavy Rain, from the top of my head but it all depends on difficulty played and if you're trying to collect the trophies etc.

I feel really sorry for you if you've never played a game with a great story that lasts more than 12-15 hours of gameplay. That's quite sad, you're really missing out on some great games.

I actually will. The game is called Mafia II. 15-20 hours of gameplay. Usually when a dev says that, he means if you play on hard difficulty, which I will, that it will take about 20 hours. And I think the official announcement for Uncharted 2's length was 12-15 hours, which is shorter than Mafia II. Plus, I had a friend who beat it in 10 hours. And Dead Space is 15-20 hours long, too, so really, you shouldn't be complaining.

[FulcrumX]

There's really no point on arguing this anymore is there? Why did someone even make a thread to post your dislikes about the game when clearly the fanboys can't handle anyone pointing out any flaws.

I'm done with this discussion, it's going nowhere and is a waste of time.

[McGee]

There's really no point on arguing this anymore is there? Why did someone even make a thread to post your dislikes about the game when clearly the fanboys can't handle anyone pointing out any flaws.

I'm done with this discussion, it's going nowhere and is a waste of time.

Which we are. We're discussing, and embracing our opinions, as are you. Nothing wrong about it. Unless your trying to sway us towards one side, which it seems like it...:rolleyes:

[Spiral Static]

There's really no point on arguing this anymore is there? Why did someone even make a thread to post your dislikes about the game when clearly the fanboys can't handle anyone pointing out any flaws.

I'm done with this discussion, it's going nowhere and is a waste of time.

Someone's angry that their points were bad...:p

Actually Dead Space only took me like 9 hours, so if it took you 15 hours, then Mafia II will take you 40 hours.

And it's not that we can't handle it. The reason for the thread is to discuss what you don't like or like, and then other people can say why they think that's wrong or right. YOU don't get the point of this thread. I'll list my dislikes now, just to show I don't think this game is perfect. It's hard to tell what you dislike about a game until you actually play it, mind you.

-The big, white cross reticule. It's ugly.
-Smaller countryside
-That nobody is paying attention to the game in the US.

[McGee]

Someone's angry that their points were bad...:p

Actually Dead Space only took me like 9 hours, so if it took you 15 hours, and Mafia II will take you 40 hours.

And it's not that we can't handle it. The reason for the thread is to discuss what you don't like or like, and then other people can say why they think that's wrong or right. You don't get the point of this thread. I'll list my dislikes now.

-The big, white cross reticule. It's ugly.
-Smaller countryside
-That nobody is paying attention to the game in the US.

Umm, if you play on HARD there is no cross at all. It was confirmed that it'll go like this...

easy-large cross that you saw
medium-more average sized cross
hard-none at all...

[Wiseguy88]

-The big, white cross reticule. It's ugly.
-Smaller countryside
-That nobody is paying attention to the game in the US.

In some gameplay videos I haven't seen a big ugly crosshair, in some it actually looks as in Mafia 1 which was thin and looked good.

[FulcrumX]

Which we are. We're discussing, and embracing our opinions, as are you. Nothing wrong about it. Unless your trying to sway us towards one side, which it seems like it...:rolleyes:

Nope. I simply said I was hoping for a longer single player campaign. I mean let's take Uncharted for example (since it's already been brought up) someone (possibly you can't remember) claims that it only had 12 hours of gameplay, that's fine. But what about the multiplayer? 12 hours of gameplay + multiplayer > 15 hours of SP gameplay and nothing else.

Now don't bite my head off I'm not saying this game should have multiplayer (I really don't care, I reckon MP would hurt the game more than help it). However, if it's going to have SP only. And no side missions(which is fine) and no other game modes (which is fine) and barely no free roaming(which is fine) then you would think it would have more than 15 hours of gameplay.

I'd say most games have 12-15 hours of SP gameplay as well as other modes, side missions, free roam etc.

Now I'm not saying I want those other modes and side missions and free roam etc, I don't. I don't think it would suit the mafia game. I just don't understand why they didn't make the game/story a little longer. And it IS possible to extend the story without damaging the overall quality of it. It's been done before.


Like I said, there's really no point in discussing this. I've voiced my opinion, the Mafia fanboys have tore off my head and raped my headless corpse because I actually pointed out a dislike that had valid reasoning. Not much else to do really.


As for my likes? Everything that I didn't mention in my dislike list.

Although I particuarly like the small things. Snow falling off cars when they make sharp turns, actually browsing a wardrobe/closet of clothes in the same way you would in real life, the kick-back on the guns seems quite realistic(from the trailer), I LOVE how it spans over a decade and the city, the style of clothes, style of cars, style of music etc all changes with it. (although one negative of that is when games jump ahead a couple of years or months at a time it sometimes feels like you're being distanced from the main character and you've missed out on a whole chunck of his life, just a minor detail though).


Overall I am REALLY looking forward to this game (it's the only game released this year I'm actually excited about).

I just wish the fanboys would accept that people are going to have things they dislike about it and that the game will never be flawless.

[Spiral Static]

Umm, if you play on HARD there is no cross at all. It was confirmed that it'll go like this...

easy-large cross that you saw
medium-more average sized cross
hard-none at all...

Really? Awesome! That's the second time today that you've taken something I dislike about the game and given me the answer I was hoping for. My two major dislikes were the reticule and the facial animations, but not anymore! On hard, will it be like the old videos where the reticule was a tiny, translucent dot?

[McGee]

Really? Awesome! That's the second time today that you've taken something I dislike about the game and given me the answer I was hoping for. My two major dislikes were the reticule and the facial animations, but not anymore! On hard, will it be like the old videos where the reticule was a tiny, translucent dot?

Yeah...it's supposed to be almost unnoticeable. :cool:

[Spiral Static]

Yeah...it's supposed to be almost unnoticeable. :cool:

Alright, I officially have no pre-release dislikes for this game.

[Mutagen_XLT]

Likes: Mafia II,Mafia II,Mafia II.

Dislikes: Dumb posts and dumb people with dumb dislikes.

[Wiseguy88]

On easy it turns red as well right? As you're aiming on someone? I really don't like that :p

[Spiral Static]

Likes:Mafia II,Mafia II,Mafia II.

Dislikes:Dumb posts and dumb people with dumb dislikes.

You mean like that Azzaulter guy? That guy was nuts! :eek: I thought he was gonna kill someone when he found out you couldn't ride the train.

[McGee]

On easy it turns red as well right? As you're aiming on someone? I really don't like that :p

then don't play on easy?

[Wiseguy88]

then don't play on easy?

I never do, just said I didn't like it :)

[McGee]

You mean like that Azzaulter guy? That guy was nuts! :eek: I thought he was gonna kill someone when he found out you couldn't ride the train.

lol...It was hilarious!!!!

It's like he asks can we ride a train?

We respond no.

He asks again "Why aren't there no trains, I won't make purchase. Please tell me there will be trains."

We respond again, no.

He asks again "Mafia 2 is failure then, can never live up to Mafia 2 name. It's done. It fails. Please tell me we will be able to ride the train!!!"

We respond, "for the love of god, no."

He learns we can drag bodies he becomes super excited:eek: "We can drag bodies?! Jack lied. Why did he lie. Please someone say's is this true? Can we also ride trains?"

"NO!!!!"

God he might've gone on a killing spree if he learned that there would be no trains:rolleyes:

[FulcrumX]

Speaking of dragging bodies. Was it ever confirmed if that was mission specific (loading them into the trunk of your car) or if you accidentally knock down a pedestrian can you just lob them into the trunk and carry on like nothing happened?

I'm expecting to hear the former but hoping for the latter.

[Wiseguy88]

lol...It was hilarious!!!!

It's like he asks can we ride a train?

We respond no.

He asks again "Why aren't there no trains, I won't make purchase. Please tell me there will be trains."

We respond again, no.

He asks again "Mafia 2 is failure then, can never live up to Mafia 2 name. It's done. It fails. Please tell me we will be able to ride the train!!!"

We respond, "for the love of god, no."

He learns we can drag bodies he becomes super excited:eek: "We can drag bodies?! Jack lied. Why did he lie. Please someone say's is this true? Can we also ride trains?"

"NO!!!!"

God he might've gone on a killing spree if he learned that there would be no trains:rolleyes:

Hahaha, yeah! That guy gave me some good laughs :D

[azzaulter]

lol...It was hilarious!!!!

It's like he asks can we ride a train?

We respond no.

He asks again "Why aren't there no trains, I won't make purchase. Please tell me there will be trains."

We respond again, no.

He asks again "Mafia 2 is failure then, can never live up to Mafia 2 name. It's done. It fails. Please tell me we will be able to ride the train!!!"

We respond, "for the love of god, no."

He learns we can drag bodies he becomes super excited:eek: "We can drag bodies?! Jack lied. Why did he lie. Please someone say's is this true? Can we also ride trains?"

"NO!!!!"

God he might've gone on a killing spree if he learned that there would be no trains:rolleyes:



LOL LOL LOL )))

[Wiseguy88]

LOL LOL LOL )))

Oh hey man, you're back! They've made public transportation available.

[McGee]

Oh hey man, you're back! They've made public transportation available.

lol...stop making him think he won the lottery:p

I could only imagine if he had his own site.

I could see the front title...

People REJOICE! Mafia 2 has Transportation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....

Then it will go to say how it will win GOTY because of the transportation, and how he will use it....:rolleyes:

[davelord]

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.
D

1. dont know what it is do dont care

2. dont know what it is. dont care

3. dont know what it is :l dont care

4. dont get it. dont care

5. dont get it. IDC!

6. dont know it either idc

7. i like it but i dont know the arcady word.

8. dont care

[Wiseguy88]

You can't have 8 weapons at once, wasen't that just to show of all the weapons for GDC or what ever it was?

[Mafiashock]

I was drawing the example to show you can have BOTH quantity and quality.

There's plenty of games that are the same. Are you really saying you've never played a game that has more than 15 hours of gameplay and has a brilliant story?

There's not many recent games, a lot of older games but not many recent ones. Uncharted, Dead Space, Heavy Rain, from the top of my head but it all depends on difficulty played and if you're trying to collect the trophies etc.

I feel really sorry for you if you've never played a game with a great story that lasts more than 12-15 hours of gameplay. That's quite sad, you're really missing out on some great games.

None of those games took me over 14 hours to complete (on normal difficulty)...and I'm pretty sure Mafia 2 will last much longer than 15 hours if you do some free roaming and do everything that the game has to offer. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Mafiashock]

Oh hey man, you're back! They've made public transportation available.

:) Lmao don't get him too excited.

[HD Dime]

You can't watch TV, you can't hang with friends, and you can't play darts. Where did you hear that you could do all of those things?Yes you can watch tv, that's why Vito has a TV at his safe house, and when you go up to it, there's an option to turn it on. It has already been said that Vito can go to bars with friends. And who knows, I sure hope there's darts.

[Dsmooth16]

Yes you can watch tv, that's why Vito has a TV at his safe house, and when you go up to it, there's an option to turn it on. It has already been said that Vito can go to bars with friends. And who knows, I sure hope there's darts.

2k jack already said you can't watch TV and NO Darts,and the only time you can take friends out will be during missions.

And everything you mention sounds like a GTA RIPOFF

[HD Dime]

This game is in the 50s. What do you think people did back then twiddle there thumbs and j*ck off or something:confused: ? I didn't even metion GTA. I just said I hope we could do darts cause in real life bars have it. TV must be there! And we can free roam(as confirmed in Podcast 8) and go to bars with friends! You can hang out with JOe!

[Frankie Potts Killer]

2k jack already said you can't watch TV and NO Darts,and the only time you can take friends out will be during missions.

And everything you mention sounds like a GTA RIPOFF

very true ... having darts would be like a gta rip off and tv i think is not needed.

related news about ww2 and your activities i think will be on the radio so i think that will suffice

[HD Dime]

very true ... having darts would be like a gta rip off and tv i think is not needed.

related news about ww2 and your activities i think will be on the radio so i think that will sufficeJust because one feature is in one game means that another game can't have it? Yes Pool would be a rip off, but Darts was around back then in bars. And mobsters love to hang out at bowling places. I'm telling you that those things might be in there! And tv is needed! Something to look at!:D The tv is there!

[Dsmooth16]

Originally Posted by Muffin Jack, can we hail cabs in the game? And another thing, what's your favourite car? (in the game obviously)

2k jack::No. Why no hailing cabs? It's much more fun to drive yourself. We want to encourage you to try out the different cars, to customize them, to keep them in your garage. The quality of the cars in our game, and the driving in general, is fantastic.As for my favorite one, it's called the Roller. (rhymes with "holler") I'm not sure if it made it into the final game, but the thing is badass. If they made one in real life, it's what I would be driving.

Originally Posted by Fat Tony ay J can u casualy meet up with people like in gta. for example when niko calls roman and they have a drink and so on?

2k jack:No. Mafia II is focused on story-driven action. All of the meet-ups and drinks happen in the cutscenes that move the story forward.

[Frankie Potts Killer]

Just because one feature is in one game means that another game can't have it? Yes Pool would be a rip off, but Darts was around back then in bars. And mobsters love to hang out at bowling places. I'm telling you that those things might be in there! And tv is needed! Something to look at!:D The tv is there!

I agree with you that just because gta as these features other games can also have them but i think stuff like bowling and pool and darts shouldnt be in the game. cant imagine mobsters playing them to be honest.

tv would be nice but i dont think it is particularly needed. if it's in there then good if not then not a problem.

on the other hand i think people should stop worrying about what the game will and wont have.

just enjoy the finished product when it comes out and stop worrying about if the game will have darts and trains ect.

[HD Dime]

I agree with you that just because gta as these features other games can also have them but i think stuff like bowling and pool and darts shouldnt be in the game. cant imagine mobsters playing them to be honest.

tv would be nice but i dont think it is particularly needed. if it's in there then good if not then not a problem.

on the other hand i think people should stop worrying about what the game will and wont have.

just enjoy the finished product when it comes out and stop worrying about if the game will have darts and trains ect.Your right, but wat i'm trying to say is that mobsters are people. They like to have fun and entertain themselves. That's why many mobster have hideouts at bowling alleys. And in one of the trailers we do see a darts board in a bar cutscene, we might use it.

And tv would be cool and I know it's there. Remeber 2k doesn't want to spoil anything, so they will just say "no it's not there" and then after the game comes out "oh I didn't know, my mistake or it is there"

[Frankie Potts Killer]

And tv would be cool and I know it's there. Remeber 2k doesn't want to spoil anything, so they will just say "no it's not there" and then after the game comes out "oh I didn't know, my mistake or it is there"

this could be true but i wouldn't threat over it. if it's in there then great if not i don't think it will be missed to much by the majority

[Fugue]

there are no random events in Mafia 2 like drinking with buddies etc (thankfully) just go and read the whole "questions for 2K Jack" thread

it's full of very current and useful info ;)

[stelutealpine81]

In Italy we haven't the game yet, i'm waiting 4 it from many months. I enjoyed the first one and I hope the second one is better than it. A thing i didnt like is the way 2K named a mafia family "Falcone", if it's true. Falcone was a big man who try to fight Mafia in my country and died 4 this, i think it's not so respectable to do what 2K did. ty 4 reading

[Fugue]

presumably it's not an unusual Italian name....

[Spiral Static]

lol...It was hilarious!!!!

It's like he asks can we ride a train?

We respond no.

He asks again "Why aren't there no trains, I won't make purchase. Please tell me there will be trains."

We respond again, no.

He asks again "Mafia 2 is failure then, can never live up to Mafia 2 name. It's done. It fails. Please tell me we will be able to ride the train!!!"

We respond, "for the love of god, no."

He learns we can drag bodies he becomes super excited:eek: "We can drag bodies?! Jack lied. Why did he lie. Please someone say's is this true? Can we also ride trains?"

"NO!!!!"

God he might've gone on a killing spree if he learned that there would be no trains:rolleyes:

His tone wasn't that civilized, though. He was more like, "why no use of public transportation, jack!! Mafia II is failure now!! you say it because people who ride train are looser so TOmmy is looser! why do you fail us Jack!!!! I will never buy 2K Czech game!!11!!!

[Spiral Static]

I was wondering about that, too. If they could choose any name for one of the families, why Falcone when he was somebody who was antimafia in real life? :confused:

And 2K jack has already said that 2K games spent their money to get the 200 licensed tracks that will appear in the game. He also said 50s TV shows would be too hard to get rights for. He's not joking, either. When he didn't want to tell us about the game, he would say that he couldn't go into detail.

[Mafiashock]

His tone wasn't that civilized, though. He was more like, "why no use of public transportation, jack!! Mafia II is failure now!! you say it because people who ride train are looser so TOmmy is looser! why do you fail us Jack!!!! I will never buy 2K Czech game!!11!!!

"Why no train ride Jack. I will not call you good fellow if I can't ride train. You ruined mafia 2 Jack because vito will not ride train. I want hide bodies in luggage. This game fail because I can't hide body. Jack I like ride train so I'm loooser too? I'm going to cry and whine like a little b***h because I no ride train wwwaaahhhh wwwwwaaaahhhh."

[Spiral Static]

"Why no train ride Jack. I will not call you good fellow if I can't ride train. You ruined mafia 2 Jack because vito will not ride train. I want hide bodies in luggage. This game fail because I can't hide body. Jack I like ride train so I'm loooser too? I'm going to cry and whine like a little b***h because I no ride train wwwaaahhhh wwwwwaaaahhhh."
LOL!! I totally forgot about how he wouldn't call him a good fellow! I laughed so hard at that!

I find it funny that Mafia II fans want the tiniest details exactly right in the game, yet GTA fans overlook huge flaws in their games.

[Spiral Static]

The funniest part was that he mentioned he was Russian, so in my head, all I heard was a thick Russian accent saying his post! :D

[HD Dime]

there are no random events in Mafia 2 like drinking with buddies etc (thankfully) just go and read the whole "questions for 2K Jack" thread

it's full of very current and useful info ;)Dude in Podcast 8 Jac`k said we could eat at diners when we want and go to bars when we want with our buddies. He said that after you do a mission you get free roam until you go to Vito's bed.:cool:

[Don_Vito]

well supposedly you eat food to regain the rest of your health

[Meskis]

I want to ask how sleeping in game works? Better no sims style :D

[Wiseguy88]

I want to ask how sleeping in game works? Better no sims style :D

When you go to sleep the next day in Vito's life start. You go to bed after you've completed all the mission in a chapter.

[chalkman]

Is there a sleeping with the fishes mode available? :D

[Meskis]

When you go to sleep the next day in Vito's life start. You go to bed after you've completed all the mission in a chapter.
Thank you for the answer, so sleeping would help i think only in hard level ;)

[MY BEST FRIEND]

Hi i'm new, can anyone tell me what there is to like in Mafia ii! IT seems fine!

[Meskis]

Hi i'm new, can anyone tell me what there is to like in Mafia ii! IT seems fine!
What to like? Maybe everything? :o

[ME!]

I would like to say that i would want to have things to finde or explore/ Do in the city wille exploaring it!

For ex you get a call and get told that you have to meet for ex joe during the day. So wen you decide to go to the meeting place, mean wille your on the road you see a guy with a very fancy car! So! you decide to follow him. Ya get to his house you enter behind him and beat him on contiose. Take the keys search the house for some intressting stuff like money, clothes,gold or any kind of gun or ammo. And dont forget the car on the way out!.

or just walking on the street you decide to robb some one perticuarly after a gun or so. you get my point.

Or just drieving (exploaring) mystieries palaces. And you might bump in to intressting stuff like an coverd old sports car in an ally. You take it and costomize it!

Or having hidden places with intressting stuff (buying special guns for ex)!

And what about bumping in to different people telling you secrets/valude information or secret places and so on.

Actually i would like some featuers GF 1 hade
Havent played so many games so
these are just some things that crossed my minde

[HD Dime]

I'm having doubts about this game, while your liking cats with fruit on their head:D

[Spiral Static]

I would like to say that i would want to have things to finde or explore/ Do in the city wille exploaring it!

For ex you get a call and get told that you have to meet for ex joe during the day. So wen you decide to go to the meeting place, mean wille your on the road you see a guy with a very fancy car! So! you decide to follow him. Ya get to his house you enter behind him and beat him on contiose. Take the keys search the house for some intressting stuff like money, clothes,gold or any kind of gun or ammo. And dont forget the car on the way out!.

or just walking on the street you decide to robb some one perticuarly after a gun or so. you get my point.

Or just drieving (exploaring) mystieries palaces. And you might bump in to intressting stuff like an coverd old sports car in an ally. You take it and costomize it!

Or having hidden places with intressting stuff (buying special guns for ex)!

And what about bumping in to different people telling you secrets/valude information or secret places and so on.

Actually i would like some featuers GF 1 hade
Havent played so many games so
these are just some things that crossed my minde

If you're referring to Godfather 1, that game was not very good. :(

And that thing about beating that guy..That's awful :eek:


I'm having doubts about this game, while your liking cats with fruit on their head:D

What don't you like about Mafia II so far? (Don't say no public transportation)

[MY BEST FRIEND]

I'm having doubts about this game, while your liking cats with fruit on their head:DI love cats, what's your prob with the game? You can even see wild cats and dogs!:D :)

[Rook24]

Anyone one with a problem about the length of this game should go and complain about the left 4 dead series. You can complete them in a couple of hours each.

Just wanted to point that out

[FulcrumX]

Anyone one with a problem about the length of this game should go and complain about the left 4 dead series. You can complete them in a couple of hours each.

Just wanted to point that out

Yeah but the left 4 dead series are;

1. Crap

2. Have other game modes to fill up time.




I like, the game mafia 2.

I dislike, the PC elitists. May you all rot in hades fiery ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺.

[Frankie Potts Killer]

I dislike, the PC elitists. May you all rot in hades fiery ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺.

lol
:)

[Spiral Static]

I love cats, what's your prob with the game? You can even see wild cats and dogs!:D :)

By the way, I found your cat's owner.

[spitfirex007]

You guys do realize this is still a VIDEOGAME right? I mean I understand wanting it to be realistic. But only to a point.

[Mafiashock]

You guys do realize this is still a VIDEOGAME right? I mean I understand wanting it to be realistic. But only to a point.

You can't reason with morons. They do not have common sense. When you talk with reason they get confused.

[MY BEST FRIEND]

By the way, I found your cat's owner.

LOL, like owner, like cat!:D

[HD Dime]

I'm just not getting this! :D

:( I might be leaving the forum because I feel I have made a fool of myself with all my complaints. I'm sorry, but this might be goodbye:(

[HD Dime]

Goodbe 2k forums! Iv'e had enough of this so goodbye!;)

[Whack The son of a *****]

Haha see yA:D

[MY BEST FRIEND]

Goodbye HD Dime(i like to say High Definition Dime)! MY BEST FRIEND WILL MISS YOU!:) lol


Anyways, I really like how there's so much to interact with. Like Vito had a lot of people talking to eachother while passing him. Now I call that realisim.
What about cats?:p

[McGee]

Goodbye HD Dime(i like to say High Definition Dime)! MY BEST FRIEND WILL MISS YOU!:) lol


Anyways, I really like how there's so much to interact with. Like Vito had a lot of people talking to eachother while passing him. Now I call that realisim.
What about cats?:p

There's actually cat's in the game, and dogs, and other wild life as well...:cool:

[The Janitor]

My biggest concern is that we wont be able to change the crosshair, I hate having a big uggly crosshair all over the screen. I prefer none at all, though I haven't come across one single TPS that has the option to turn off the crosshair so I don't have my hopes up. A small white dot as a crosshair is also acceptable I suppose :p

[Ottoman]

The Playboy mags are one of the things I really dislike about this game. It`s uncalled for and completely irrelevant to the game or its story.
I accidently saw one of those pics in a preview i was reading:mad:

I`m sorry to say but I don`t see any reason to include this "bonus" in the game. They could`ve utilized this precious money elsewhere instead of spending it to get exclusive rights to those mags *thumbs down*:(

[FulcrumX]

My biggest concern is that we wont be able to change the crosshair, I hate having a big uggly crosshair all over the screen. I prefer none at all, though I haven't come across one single TPS that has the option to turn off the crosshair so I don't have my hopes up. A small white dot as a crosshair is also acceptable I suppose :p

Pretty sure it was said that the easier diffculty would have a big crosshair, the intermediate difficulty will have a smaller crosshair and the most difficult will have no cross hair or a tiny small dot.

[The Janitor]

Well I hope there's an option because I don't want to play on the hardest the first time :D

[Frankie Potts Killer]

The Playboy mags are one of the things I really dislike about this game. It`s uncalled for and completely irrelevant to the game or its story.
I accidently saw one of those pics in a preview i was reading:mad:

I`m sorry to say but I don`t see any reason to include this "bonus" in the game. They could`ve utilized this precious money elsewhere instead of spending it to get exclusive rights to those mags *thumbs down*:(

i disagree ... i think it's a great idea. to put the vintage magazines in the game is another way they get across the period authenticity.

and it's something you can imagine guys like vito and joe reading in the 50's

[Mornaselos]

I like alot about mafia2 but their is one negative that feels like a big bite in the ass and thats

No german mafia!?

It would've worked so well with the story, as tommy is coming back from the WW2 war, and then when he thinks he's out.. they pull him back in. and then he's fighting germans all over again haha.:D :p

[gangsterlife]

I like alot about mafia2 but their is one negative that feels like a big bite in the ass and thats

No german mafia!?

It would've worked so well with the story, as tommy is coming back from the WW2 war, and then when he thinks he's out.. they pull him back in. and then he's fighting germans all over again haha.:D :p

No it won't :mad: this is not a war game it's a mafia game;)

[Mornaselos]

No it won't :mad: this is not a war game it's a mafia game;)

I didnt say i wanted nazis!

I said german mafia.

originally they were going to be in the game, but i guess somebody at the office changed their mind.

I mean think about it before you say bad idea.

Tommy is just getting back from the war after fighting the nazis. So he gets into the mob and then he runs into empire cities german mob. The german mob was in favor of nazism and know that tommy served in ww2, so tommys past begins to haunt him, and this agression towards the germans fuels him even more to wanting to kill the german mob and its don.

but no worries its not going to happen.

[FtRapture]

...I said german mafia...

.


Sounds pretty fun actually, maybe a DLC?

[Mornaselos]

Sounds pretty fun actually, maybe a DLC?

Let us hope so

[Don_Vito]

I didnt say i wanted nazis!

I said german mafia.

originally they were going to be in the game, but i guess somebody at the office changed their mind.

I mean think about it before you say bad idea.

Tommy is just getting back from the war after fighting the nazis. So he gets into the mob and then he runs into empire cities german mob. The german mob was in favor of nazism and know that tommy served in ww2, so tommys past begins to haunt him, and this agression towards the germans fuels him even more to wanting to kill the german mob and its don.

but no worries its not going to happen.


The player character is named Vito Scaletta, Tommy (Angelo) was the name of the player character in Mafia I, but I'm sure you knew that....