View Full Version : How will the PBD inject EVE?
iPomegranate
11-11-2009, 12:08 PM
Obviously from the concepts I see he has a tube of EVE going into him, but where is our slightly disturbing few seconds where we see a man jab himself with a filthy needle? It's not like the needle can pierce through his suit, or can it?
Red Falcon
11-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Obviously from the concepts I see he has a tube of EVE going into him, but where is our slightly disturbing few seconds where we see a man jab himself with a filthy needle? It's not like the needle can pierce through his suit, or can it?
Perhaps a specific port or needle hole on his arm?
Or maybe a tube connected to his bloodstream.
ADAMJUNKIE
11-11-2009, 12:18 PM
if you can find the concept art of the pbd's hand theres a kindof circular ?valve? (i really dont know how to describe it) but it looks like it can open so he can inject himself
off topic: hmm how bad do you think stds got down there...everyone using needles laying on the ground and stuff *shudders*
Rapture-Stingers-QB
11-11-2009, 12:21 PM
Didn't the PBD have an EVE "tank" attached to him at some point? Maybe he merely replenishes the tank instead of directly injecting himself.
off topic: hmm how bad do you think stds got down there...everyone using needles laying on the ground and stuff *shudders*
I would think ADAM would take care of that.
ADAMJUNKIE
11-11-2009, 12:25 PM
I would think ADAM would take care of that.
i dont think ADAM can cure diseases. it just gave you extra stem cells that could be genetically manipulated to give you plasmids.
Donut232
11-11-2009, 12:27 PM
Theres a gameplay video around that shows the PBD vs a Bouncer. He uses Electro-Bolt a bit and uses up his EVE and it just kinda... replenishes without the PBD doing anything. My guess is its part of the suit.
Red Falcon
11-11-2009, 12:37 PM
i dont think ADAM can cure diseases. it just gave you extra stem cells that could be genetically manipulated to give you plasmids.
They way it was described in the game ADAM can pretty much do anything.
I suppose you could manupluate your genes (or DNA) till you were immune to whatever you had.
(It would have to be a specificly designed Adam product I think.)
But its all speculation :p
zombimoses
11-11-2009, 12:45 PM
The EVE is injected intravenously and wen you use up your EVE it replenishes so idk if you are going to have to still get EVE to fill up your tank but the PBD doesn't inject it into himself like jack.
Azure Harbinger
11-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Well you definitely use the EVE hypos. Hunting the Big Sister showed us that. And we have the Intravenous EVE Delivery System (I.E.D.S) :p, which will supply us with EVE when we need it (though a didn't see an EVE reload animation. That makes me sad). I'm thinking the valve/hatch on his arm will be what he uses to fill up with EVE. And Plasmids.
zombimoses
11-11-2009, 01:23 PM
It could just be like a normal intravenous drip where its just put into the blood steam some every couple seconds.
Cohen's prodigy
11-11-2009, 01:28 PM
I don't think it will be an animation and it's actually easier if it instantly fills
Elfen Lied
11-11-2009, 01:37 PM
if you can find the concept art of the pbd's hand theres a kindof circular ?valve? (i really dont know how to describe it) but it looks like it can open so he can inject himself
I found the picture you were talking about,
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/wallpapers/rain_1920x1200.jpg
but I don't think that port is for EVE, I think the other guys are right in that there is a part of his suit that auto-injects him with EVE. I believe that port there is for injecting NEW Plasmids as you come acrossed them in the game. So...
...but where is our slightly disturbing few seconds where we see a man jab himself with a filthy needle? ...don't worry iPomegranate, you'll still get your "slightly disturbing few seconds where we see a man jab himself with a filthy needle".
zombimoses
11-11-2009, 01:37 PM
I don't think it will be an animation and it's actually easier if it instantly fills
I agree it wouldn't make sense that the PBD would have to press a button or pull a hatch to get EVE it probably just goes on its own.
ADAMJUNKIE
11-11-2009, 01:50 PM
I found the picture you were talking about,
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/wallpapers/rain_1920x1200.jpg
thers a better picture. The one im talking about is just a picture of the left arm. It was released pretty early
Elfen Lied
11-11-2009, 01:55 PM
thers a better picture. The one im talking about is just a picture of the left arm. It was released pretty early
OK, lets see YOU find a better picture. Because you can see the port in his left arm just fine there.
Judgeofwings
11-11-2009, 02:00 PM
OK, lets see YOU find a better picture. Because you can see the port in his left arm just fine there.
I'll see your challenge and raise you a much clearer picture...:D: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/protobdconceptart/final_concept.jpg
I think this is the picture he was eluding to.
Anyways i think i'm gonna go with the others,the blue tank on his back has to be his eve tank,which should supply a steady flow of eve intravenously.Although it has been shown that we can collect eve hypos,i think collecting them automatically fills your tank when prompted to similar to the first-aid kits and food.
zombimoses
11-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Oh man you beat me to putting up that picture the only difference is the one i found has his porthole light on and a more watery looking liquids in the tanks.
Rockerman
11-11-2009, 02:07 PM
In the videos when he recharges his EVE he kind of squeezes his fist if your paying attention.
Elfen Lied
11-11-2009, 02:14 PM
I'll see your challenge and raise you a much clearer picture...:D: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/protobdconceptart/final_concept.jpg
I think this is the picture he was eluding to.
So is THIS^ the picture you were talking about ADAMJUNKIE?
thers a better picture. The one im talking about is just a picture of the left arm. It was released pretty early
Is this the one?
http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-10/bs2-players-hand.html
Elfen Lied
11-11-2009, 02:19 PM
Is this the one?
http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-10/bs2-players-hand.html
WOW! That one really shows it. Great Find!
ADAMJUNKIE
11-11-2009, 03:18 PM
Is this the one?
http://creativeuncut.com/gallery-10/bs2-players-hand.html
and the winner iiiiis: UREH!!! *cheering/applause*
^THIS was the picture. It makes sense that the tubes on his back fill the pbd up on eve and as people have said in the previews eve auto-fills...but the mystery remains: what is the port for? Decoration? Maybe its for injecting plasmids?
madcow96
11-11-2009, 03:22 PM
I hope he still does inject himself with EVE because it made me cringe but was somehow satisfying.
soundwave145
11-12-2009, 03:25 PM
in the video he rasies his arm up and eve flows thru a small tube on his arm into his hand
big man with a drill
11-12-2009, 04:51 PM
can you link the video
soundwave145
11-12-2009, 04:59 PM
i dont remember the link i know its in i like what im seeing
Azure Harbinger
11-13-2009, 10:26 AM
in the video he rasies his arm up and eve flows thru a small tube on his arm into his hand
I know the animation you're talking about. Yeah, it looks pretty impressive; the only reason I didn't see it before was because it was kinda difficult to tell in the video if he really was reloading EVE or pulling some fancy leveled-up-plasmid trick.
I blame the flashy, but awesome, electro-bolt,the electricity of which is difficult to distinguish from the EVE tube.
soundwave145
11-13-2009, 10:57 AM
its ok:D we are all at aww with the awsomeness that is electro_bolt by ryan industrys....evolve today!
ProjectDelta
11-13-2009, 06:25 PM
Perhaps a specific port or needle hole on his arm?
Or maybe a tube connected to his bloodstream.
Exactly my thoughts.
Nononick
11-13-2009, 11:54 PM
The reason it isn't visible in most videos is because they may not have made that specific animation yet. It's impossible that he get's eve through the tank, because other BDs have (and thus NEED) one too, and they don't use EVE/plasmids. So we might get an injection scene in the full game, or a tube connected to some other storage place like soundwave suggested.
But if he had one big tank there would be only one BIG EVE tank on the HUD, and there would be no reloading.
Jonahzilla
11-14-2009, 09:40 AM
The reason it isn't visible in most videos is because they may not have made that specific animation yet. It's impossible that he get's eve through the tank, because other BDs have (and thus NEED) one too, and they don't use EVE/plasmids. So we might get an injection scene in the full game, or a tube connected to some other storage place like soundwave suggested.
But if he had one big tank there would be only one BIG EVE tank on the HUD, and there would be no reloading.
or maybe they wouldn't have one big huge tank and instead will measure adam by using individual eve hypos!?!
Azure Harbinger
11-14-2009, 09:46 AM
Alright, this is info I, at least, consider factual.
1) There is a tank for storing EVE on Delta's back.
2) He does reload EVE. He does it through a tube in his arm. Like an IV drip. But it's not a constant feed; he has to conciously reload EVE in doses. I've seen the animation.
3) In terms of gameplay, the mechanics of reloading EVE are identical to Jack's.
I don't know this for sure, but...
4) The valve on his arm is used for needles and stuff.
Luigisf
11-14-2009, 10:35 AM
It also looks like the PBD will keep the hypos until needed when he finds them. I mean that when he picks them up, he doesn't instantly put them in his tank, my source is the Hunting the Big Sister demo, when he goes outside and he picks up a hypo and just stores it. He couldn't possibly refill his tank inmediatelly because he was underwater, and if he opened the tank, water would flow in.
Svenderson
11-14-2009, 12:00 PM
can you link the video
Link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8RVyeNpUBA
Amazing video, can't believe how many people haven't seen it yet, it's the most complete gameplay footage we've seen so far.
Big Daddy fight starts at 5:45. There does indeed seem to be an animation for eve-reload.
Luigisf
11-14-2009, 12:20 PM
Oh my, thank you poster above me, looks like some spoilers happened and some things we were questioning happened. And yeah, looks like there is an animation for the eve.
soundwave145
11-14-2009, 04:20 PM
ive shown that vid....o.oits still ****ing yummy
Jonahzilla
11-14-2009, 04:26 PM
props
nuff said
electrolaser
11-15-2009, 02:11 AM
it does go into the hole in his arm -through a tube
Orbisidian
11-15-2009, 03:37 AM
Nice "reload" animation
Jonahzilla
11-15-2009, 01:43 PM
so he reloads hypos by squeezing his fist. ok i got that.
But how will he store hypos will it be automatic or will you hav to conciously load it into your tank or wtv?
soundwave145
11-15-2009, 05:40 PM
the same way jack eats anything he picks up faster than a speeding bullet...the same way gordan freeman survived black mesa the same way in gta 4 you can survive insaine jumps:3
game logic:3
Jonahzilla
11-16-2009, 02:43 AM
the same way jack eats anything he picks up faster than a speeding bullet...the same way gordan freeman survived black mesa the same way in gta 4 you can survive insaine jumps:3
game logic:3
U r truly wise in the way of game logic
the game gods are pleased (///0)b
PurplePlasmid
11-17-2009, 03:26 PM
Did anyone think about how the PBD's suit doesn't fill up with water because of the holes in his fingers? There's a type of mesh-like material that doesn't let water through. Just wanted to throw this out there...
Jonahzilla
11-17-2009, 03:44 PM
maybe it does go partway into his suit but other parts are sealed off like the head from the body?!?!? (also throwing something out there.)
AllSplicedUp
11-17-2009, 04:25 PM
maybe it does go partway into his suit but other parts are sealed off like the head from the body?!?!? (also throwing something out there.)
Might be the same concept as a dry suit, which seals at the wrist & neck so only the hands & head get wet
dacbietazn
11-21-2009, 04:34 PM
Hickman Line?
SonicBoom2
11-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8RVyeNpUBA
Amazing video, can't believe how many people haven't seen it yet, it's the most complete gameplay footage we've seen so far.
Big Daddy fight starts at 5:45. There does indeed seem to be an animation for eve-reload.
BEEAUUTTIIFFULL footage! :D
Yes this settles it, Delta makes a sort of... hand-squeezing-eve-reload gesture more than once in that vid.
LOVING the dust cloud when you land a high fall! :P
ArmorForVictory
11-29-2009, 09:55 AM
BEEAUUTTIIFFULL footage! :D
Yes this settles it, Delta makes a sort of... hand-squeezing-eve-reload gesture more than once in that vid.
LOVING the dust cloud when you land a high fall! :P
OMG thank you thank you i was looking to see if any gaming sites had real hands on footage i couldn't find any also we looks like we get a meele push back attack now?
EroticZombie
12-01-2009, 05:09 AM
the real question is "why would you have sex with a needle" not "why did this needle give me a Sexually transmitted disease"
AK Downfall
12-01-2009, 05:46 AM
the real question is "why would you have sex with a needle" not "why did this needle give me a Sexually transmitted disease"
the question doesnt matter in the world of Rapture. No one cares down there. The main goal of their lives is the survive and get ADAM any way necessary.
RICK JAMES JW
12-01-2009, 12:00 PM
How did that random guy get to play one of the most anticipated levels of the game two months early? :mad:
ArmorForVictory
12-02-2009, 11:13 AM
How did that random guy get to play one of the most anticipated levels of the game two months early? :mad:
preview for game journalists
gaminking
12-03-2009, 10:58 AM
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/090625-bioshock2-1.jpg
in this picture he has two vials on his back one red (presumably atom and one blue (im guessing eve)
ArmorForVictory
12-03-2009, 11:06 AM
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/090625-bioshock2-1.jpg
in this picture he has two vials on his back one red (presumably atom and one blue (im guessing eve)
yup most likely adam and eve they released that pic awhile back
Lagging
12-03-2009, 03:26 PM
yup most likely adam and eve they released that pic awhile back
there was a video wher it showed him refilling eve but all he did was raise his hand and flex or something
ArmorForVictory
12-04-2009, 05:30 AM
there was a video wher it showed him refilling eve but all he did was raise his hand and flex or something
yeah i saw that it looked weird
Lagging
12-04-2009, 10:19 AM
yeah i saw that it looked weird
it was pretty cool though lol
and its a lot faster that takin out a needle
ArmorForVictory
12-04-2009, 11:37 AM
it was pretty cool though lol
and its a lot faster that takin out a needle
i liked the needle :D
Jonahzilla
12-05-2009, 03:03 PM
yah i liked the needle to it was one of those "YOUCH that looks like it hurt" and "OH SH**" and "AWESOME" wrapped up into a neat little bundle of macarbe satisfaction...
superbioshock
12-05-2009, 08:18 PM
I loved how jack would stab himself with a needle, No im not a drug addict, I just thought it was bad ass and innovative.
Seems that won't be happening this time around, so my guess is that there's already some needle in you by the suit.
ArmorForVictory
12-06-2009, 05:30 AM
I loved how jack would stab himself with a needle, No im not a drug addict, I just thought it was bad ass and innovative.
Seems that won't be happening this time around, so my guess is that there's already some needle in you by the suit.
yeah i feel the same way just felt good to visually see him putting eve into his body
superbioshock
12-06-2009, 08:23 AM
yup most likely adam and eve they released that pic awhile back
I wonder if religion inspired this game at all, with the whole adam and eve thing.
ArmorForVictory
12-06-2009, 12:36 PM
I wonder if religion inspired this game at all, with the whole adam and eve thing.
XD i thought of that too right after i posted that i was like adam and eve WTH why didn't that come to mind before :confused:
Cohen's prodigy
12-06-2009, 12:50 PM
I actually hope it works like the health it will make combat alot easier
mannyfresh10
12-06-2009, 01:51 PM
Speaking of where stuff goes in and out, where do you think the Insect Swarm is going to come from, since his arms are covered where the hell are they going to come out of?
Lagging
12-06-2009, 01:55 PM
Speaking of where stuff goes in and out, where do you think the Insect Swarm is going to come from, since his arms are covered where the hell are they going to come out of?
in the BS1 trailer
you see hive entrances form in his skin
the adam probably alters his matter and breaks it down and rebuilds it into living bees who see him as the Queen