What was Dr. Suchong's idea for a new plasmid?

[A_Man_Chooses]

I was remembering a certain audio diary, called Testing Telekinesis by Dr. Suchong, and I realized something i hadn't really payed that much attention to before. (see audio diary transcript below)

"Clinical Trial Lot 23 Dr. Suchong/Client Fontaine Futuristics. Work on telekinesis plasmid proceeding well. Lifting objects at distance present no problem. Moving objects through space, no problem. Cannot stop speeding bullet, but can catch and throw fast moving object. Problem not with plasmid. Problem with reaction time. ...Suchong just get new idea for plasmid"

anyone else wonder what his idea for a new plasmid was? It seems he got the idea when talking about the reaction time. Any ideas?

[ADAMJUNKIE]

O thought it was obvious...like you said increased reaction time/faster reflexes

[Don A K Bab]

Either sport boost tonic "The ability to move and swing the wrench much faster" or some unknown tonic that either we didn't get to see or Suchong never got around to making.

[BioSister]

"Cannot stop speeding bullet, but can catch and throw fast moving object."

I always thought that being able to catch live grenades and throw them back was his new idea.

[RTM]

Suchong kinda spoke, well funny for lack of having another way to say it. I think he just ment Telekenisis, not any new plasmid. And Sports boost, is a tonic, not a plasmid. :P

[Cohen's Scherzo No. 7]

I thought it was pretty clear that he was talking about a plasmid to improve reaction time, or maybe specifically to catch a speeding bullet.

[Ureh]

I thought it was pretty clear that he was talking about a plasmid to improve reaction time, or maybe specifically to catch a speeding bullet.

A bullet time plasmid/tonic?!
Increases your reflexes so that everything else is slower than you (but when you're playing the game, the speed of your character will remain the same while everything else becomes slower). Then while this plasmid is active, you can use telekinesis to catch bullets. LOL

[japester]

Yeah, I figured it was obvious as well. Sounds like something that may have evolved into the Dash plasmid that they are incorporating into BS2 multiplayer. Something that increases your speed.

[MegaScience]

Maybe it suggests they were originally going to give Telekinesis different levels like Electro Bolt having 3.

Imagine, Level 2 would let you catch shotgun pellets. Level 3 would allow bullets themselves. Obviously, these upgrades would come late in the game, hard to actually obtain, and pointless by the point you get them. Don't want you to get overpowered. :D

[Don A K Bab]

Suchong kinda spoke, well funny for lack of having another way to say it. I think he just ment Telekenisis, not any new plasmid. And Sports boost, is a tonic, not a plasmid. :P


I know it's a tonic, that's why I called it the Sport boost tonic, however what's the point of a plasmid to increase reaction time when you couldn't use it at the same time as telekenisis?

Maybe when that audio log was made they were refering to everything as Plasmids, or as you said Suchong did have a peculiar manner of speaking so he could've just called everything Plasmids.

[MegaScience]

I stand by the "Telekinesis originally had Levels" idea...

But, for all we know, he meant Winter Blast since it stops all reaction... I guess we'll never know for sure. :D

[bloodyburns]

I have a theory that Dr. Suchong is Fontaine.

[MegaScience]

I have a theory that Dr. Suchong is Fontaine.

I have a theory that you should play BioShock before posting about it. <.<

[Aeosin]

It seems pretty obvious to me which plasmid he is talking about. There are only two telekinetic type plasmids in bioshock. One is telekinesis and the other which he was referring to is Sonic boom. What do you think?











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[MegaScience]

It seems pretty obvious to me which plasmid he is talking about. There are only two telekinetic type plasmids in bioshock. One is telekinesis and the other which he was referring to is Sonic boom. What do you think?











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1: I assume you're trying to get banned. Faking keeping on topic isn't helping the matter.
2: Sonic Boom doesn't involve Telekinesis. Nor does he actually say the new thing may involve Telekinesis.

[Ureh]

How does Sonic Boom increases someone's reaction to catching a bullet? The only thing it does is prevent a gun from being fired but not actually increase your reaction time so that you can use telekinesis to catch a flying bullet.

[Aeosin]

1: I assume you're trying to get banned. Faking keeping on topic isn't helping the matter.
2: Sonic Boom doesn't involve Telekinesis. Nor does he actually say the new thing may involve Telekinesis.

Not sure what you mean. He doesn't specify any plasmid which is why this thread is here. But if he is researching telekinetic plasmids and it gave him an idea for another plasmid then sonic boom seems logical to me.

[toasty4holloween]

well to us 360 players i think it means the sonic blast plasmid

[The 1 Unknown]

Maybe it was a plasmid that was going to be in Bioshock but was rejected for some reason (I think it was a tonic that Suchong refered to as a plasmid that slowed time for the person to have more time to react (not speed the person up))

[Ureh]

Maybe it was a plasmid that was going to be in Bioshock but was rejected for some reason (I think it was a tonic that Suchong refered to as a plasmid that slowed time for the person to have more time to react (not speed the person up))

Control time?! My goodness.
How does a genetic plasmid (that is supposed to only affect bodies) affect time itself? I'm not sure I can agree with you on that one. I mean...maybe it's possible. But I think a bullet time plasmid is more possible (increase your reflexes drastically, by making everything else on the screen look like they're going slower).

[The 1 Unknown]

Control time?! My goodness.
How does a genetic plasmid (that is supposed to only affect bodies) affect time itself? I'm not sure I can agree with you on that one. I mean...maybe it's possible. But I think a bullet time plasmid is more possible (increase your reflexes drastically, by making everything else on the screen look like they're going slower).
How did the shorten alarms work then?

[Ureh]

How did the shorten alarms work then?

I've got no idea. But what has that do with actually controlling time?
Shorten Alarm, well...shortens alarms which are measured by electronic timers. Not actually the space time that ages and surrounds us.

[The 1 Unknown]

Control time?! My goodness.
How does a genetic plasmid (that is supposed to only affect bodies) affect time itself? I'm not sure I can agree with you on that one. I mean...maybe it's possible. But I think a bullet time plasmid is more possible (increase your reflexes drastically, by making everything else on the screen look like they're going slower).
You said that plasmids and tonics affect the body only

[Ureh]

You said that plasmids and tonics affect the body only

Hey, there now. I said genetic plasmids. Not plasmids and tonics.
How does mentioning plasmids mean "plasmids and tonics"?

Tonics are things that only benefit/affect you. In this case, I think the Shorten Alarm tonics "tag" you with a altered genetic code so that when the alarm is triggered on you, the security must shorten it. Same thing with the "vending machine" tonics. They tag your genetic code so that when you approach a vending the machine, it will detect the "tag" in your code and lower prices only for you.

[J Steinman]

I have a theory that you should play BioShock before posting about it. <.<

LOL. Kudos on that one.

You know what's even worse? They show Suchong and Fontaine in the same picture XD

[The 1 Unknown]

Plus if teleportation is (something that affects space) possible way not some thing that affects time.

[Ureh]

Plus if teleportation is (something that affects space) possible way not some thing that affects time.

Teleportation affects space? How do you know that?
It alters your genetic code so that you can become invisible at will, then become visible again. you'll notice this sometimes when the houdinis run across water or cast their shadow on walls. They don't actually teleport, they just become invisible, then move somewhere, then become visible.

[The 1 Unknown]

They use a combination of invisibility and teleportation you can tell because in arcadia you see splashing in the water but in fort frolic (where you find the security expert tonic) a houdinis appers a in a balcony then on a cat walk that has no connections with the balcony or any thing else in the room and to high in the air to reach by jumpping

[Ureh]

They use a combination of invisibility and teleportation you can tell because in arcadia you see splashing in the water but in fort frolic (where you find the security expert tonic) a houdinis appers a in a balcony then on a cat walk that has no connections with the balcony or any thing else in the room and to high in the air to reach by jumpping

I think you mean "Alarm Expert" tonic.
You got me on that one! Maybe the teleport plasmid can actually alter space!Unless, of course, it also allows them to fly/float and walk through walls/objects. After all, the Houdini splicers become invulnerable when they turn invisible, so maybe that's because they can also "ghost" now.

But yeah, altering space seems the be the most straightforward explanation. Interesting how it can do that though...

[The 1 Unknown]

And if space altering is possible then time usally follows making it possible to slow time so that there is more time for a reaction like Suchong needed(just trying to get back on topic)

[Cohen's prodigy]

well i think the plasmid would do something similar to what the people in wanted do which makes their reactions so fast everything else seems slow i believe thats what suchong was thinking about or something like that

[Ureh]

And if space altering is possible then time usally follows making it possible to slow time so that there is more time for a reaction like Suchong needed(just trying to get back on topic)

I still agree that it's possible that there may be a plasmid that alters time, but only in a certain radius or only one individual enemy. Remember in teleport, it is only strong enough to alter space for one person. So in order for this time plasmid to alter ALL time around you it would need to be incredibly powerful. Also how it will dictate when to return time to a normal speed will also need to be discussed.
But in the end, I think a "bullet time" plasmid is more conventional since it increases your reflexes (think F.E.A.R. bullet time) without having to muddle with time itself.

[janissary12]

I'm shaking my head that this simple question should generate so many posts, but the tone of the final ones is so intriguing I'll have to go back and read them all.

Damn you posters!!!! ;) ;) ;)

[A_Man_Chooses]

There was a lot to catch up on here, you guys came up with some interesting ideas.

I get the feeling that the idea of a "bullet time" type plasmid is on the right track, when trying to figure out what Suchong's idea was. Like the earlier posters mentioned, I think it would work by increasing your reaction time and would sort of give you a heightened sense of awareness. So, you are not actually slowing down the fabric of time itself, just altering your perception of time.

If we go back to Dr. Suchong's audio diary he says ".....Cannot stop speeding bullet, but can catch and throw fast moving object. Problem not with plasmid. Problem with reaction time. ...Suchong just get new idea for plasmid"

He mentions the fact that the telekinesis plasmid could not stop speeding bullets, therefore his idea would most likely have something to do with being able to evade and/or see bullets as they fly toward you.

Hopefully there is some mention of it in Bioshock 2, where we find a audio diary of Suchong's, and he references that he got an idea while working on telekinesis.

[Cohen's prodigy]

Just thought of another amazing idea for the plasmid going back to the version of you speeding up reaction time it would be awesome if once your reaction time was sped up you could different ways to kill enemy like enviromental hazards it's hard to say in words what im thinking but i hope you understand

[Scirax]

There was a lot to catch up on here, you guys came up with some interesting ideas.

I get the feeling that the idea of a "bullet time" type plasmid is on the right track, when trying to figure out what Suchong's idea was. Like the earlier posters mentioned, I think it would work by increasing your reaction time and would sort of give you a heightened sense of awareness. So, you are not actually slowing down the fabric of time itself, just altering your perception of time.

If we go back to Dr. Suchong's audio diary he says ".....Cannot stop speeding bullet, but can catch and throw fast moving object. Problem not with plasmid. Problem with reaction time. ...Suchong just get new idea for plasmid"

He mentions the fact that the telekinesis plasmid could not stop speeding bullets, therefore his idea would most likely have something to do with being able to evade and/or see bullets as they fly toward you..

You guys, and not nesesarily you (the guy Im quoting), keep arguing that a plasmid can only affect one's body, but how could you explain the Telekinisis, plasmid, if you can move objects with your mind, WHY WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL/STOP TIME?

[A_Man_Chooses]

You guys, and not nesesarily you (the guy Im quoting), keep arguing that a plasmid can only affect one's body, but how could you explain the Telekinisis, plasmid, if you can move objects with your mind, WHY WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL/STOP TIME?

The process of Telekinesis just involves objects in front of you and is on a much smaller scale than the idea of stopping and controlling time itself. In theory you would effect the whole world. You could be the most powerful being that ever lived and I doubt that such a plasmid would be created and given out for public use. It would create too much chaos and would essentially give anyone the power to do anything they wanted, without consequences.

This is of course just my opinion.

[Scirax]

The process of Telekinesis just involves objects in front of you and is on a much smaller scale than the idea of stopping and controlling time itself. In theory you would effect the whole world. You could be the most powerful being that ever lived and I doubt that such a plasmid would be created and given out for public use. It would create too much chaos and would essentially give anyone the power to do anything they wanted, without consequences.

This is of course just my opinion.

And I somewhat agree with it, but then again, it doesnt have to be made for "Public use" does it?

PS: To quote some one from another Forum comunity.

"'In my oppinion-' What do you mean your oppinion? This is a Forum, this whole place is just a sea of oppinions!"

lol