Bioshock on a Mac?

[Donelop]

I was wandering if i can play bioshock on my mac using boot camp. I have all the software requirements but would it work same or would it work at all. Im using windows xp professional service pack 2 so i heard it was ok. if any one knows anything about this feel free to post.

i want to get it for pc but if not ill get it for 360.

[BioShockWins]

I know squat about MACs so I probably shouldn't have pressed the reply button... But if you think it will work, it probably will. If not, you still have the 360!

[Donelop]

I know squat about MACs so I probably shouldn't have pressed the reply button... But if you think it will work, it probably will. If not, you still have the 360!

well ya buy i heard it'll be more enjoyable on pc so i figured i might get the pc vreg. but w/e

[^ilovebioshock!]

well ya buy i heard it'll be more enjoyable on pc so i figured i might get the pc vreg. but w/e

only with graphics pretty much

[shozk]

Bioshock on a mac w/ boot camp should run perfectly fine...

the real achievement would be running it with darwine :p

[Derangel]

Boot Camp fully runs Windows, so it will work fine. You might want to make sure you have a good Mac though. With it doing emulation, it might eat up a few more resources than normal. I've never seen any statics posted on whether or not this is the case, though.

[SuperSaiyan4]

I was wandering if i can play bioshock on my mac using boot camp. I have all the software requirements but would it work same or would it work at all. Im using windows xp professional service pack 2 so i heard it was ok. if any one knows anything about this feel free to post.

i want to get it for pc but if not ill get it for 360.

My question is...

What on earth is a Mac :confused:

[takymen]

apple's machintosh...i think, you know, the computer...:p

[SuperSaiyan4]

apple's machintosh...i think, you know, the computer...:p

I thought there was only PC?

I done a bit of researching and these 'Macs' seem to be using off the shelf Intel processors...Emmm interesting LOL.

Macs = iPODS = Fashion concious folk that dont have a clue about computers or decent music.

[takymen]

I thought there was only PC?

I done a bit of researching and these 'Macs' seem to be using off the shelf Intel processors...Emmm interesting LOL.

Macs = iPODS = Fashion concious folk that dont have a clue about computers or decent music.

I know that, but I don´t think they were planning to play bioshock on an Ipod:mad:

[Derangel]

I thought there was only PC?

I done a bit of researching and these 'Macs' seem to be using off the shelf Intel processors...Emmm interesting LOL.

Macs = iPODS = Fashion concious folk that dont have a clue about computers or decent music.

Yes they are for people that don't know about good music, except you know that almost the entire music industry uses Macs. Mac powerusers tend to know a heck of a lot about software, more than most PC powerusers I've met. Hardware wise, I can't stand Apple's policies, but Macs are very stable and reliable systems.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Yes they are for people that don't know about good music, except you know that almost the entire music industry uses Macs. Mac powerusers tend to know a heck of a lot about software, more than most PC powerusers I've met. Hardware wise, I can't stand Apple's policies, but Macs are very stable and reliable systems.

PC's are also very stable and reliable, I have built all 3 PC's in the house I live in and they were perfectly.

The thing is because not many people use MAC's, PC's that run Windows are prone to hackers etc, but if the majority were Mac users then it would be the other way around.

I have already seen first hand of apps that Macs are supposed to be good at run on PC's a lot better on equal specs that was on a G5.

But since Macs are now using Intel processors imo they are just PC's using a Mac op system.

Macs look nice but they are not worth the money.

I am into my hardware and I really like my music to sound as best as possible too and having once owned an iPOD it was a bad mistake since their audio processing chip is not comparable to the likes of iRiver and Creative.

But recently purchased Sony's latest offering and it has colour screen, video, 4gb flash memory and a 30hr battery life and its of SOLID build quality as well and has amazing options for further enhancement to audio clarity.

Oh and to make it sound that much sweeter I bought the top end SHURE SE530's earphones that cost over £300.

And to go back on topic, I dont think a game like Bioshock could operate on a Mac operating system.

[Derangel]

PC's are also very stable and reliable, I have built all 3 PC's in the house I live in and they were perfectly.

The thing is because not many people use MAC's, PC's that run Windows are prone to hackers etc, but if the majority were Mac users then it would be the other way around.

I have already seen first hand of apps that Macs are supposed to be good at run on PC's a lot better on equal specs that was on a G5.

But since Macs are now using Intel processors imo they are just PC's using a Mac op system.

Macs look nice but they are not worth the money.

I am into my hardware and I really like my music to sound as best as possible too and having once owned an iPOD it was a bad mistake since their audio processing chip is not comparable to the likes of iRiver and Creative.

But recently purchased Sony's latest offering and it has colour screen, video, 4gb flash memory and a 30hr battery life and its of SOLID build quality as well and has amazing options for further enhancement to audio clarity.

Oh and to make it sound that much sweeter I bought the top end SHURE SE530's earphones that cost over £300.

And to go back on topic, I dont think a game like Bioshock could operate on a Mac operating system.

Depending on what you do with you computer changes whether or not Macs are worthwhile. People who are big into photoediting should get a Mac. To this day, Photoshop still runs better on a Mac. Apple's suit of media creation and editing software (iLife) is great. Outside the professional domain though, there isn't much reason for a Mac. To add to that, I can't stand iMacs, Mac minis, or Macbooks. Anything less than the higher-end Macs (Mac Pro and Macbook Pro) is, in my opinion, a waste of money. Which brings us back to the professional domain. I'd like to own a Mac, if I had the money to space, simply because its something different and OSX is one of the best, consumer, OSes on the market. That being said, I can't justify getting one as I am a PC gamer first and I can not stand Apple's policies when it comes to hardware.

He isn't asking about running Bx on OSX, but on XP with Boot Camp. Boot Camp emulates the PC environment and lets Macs run windows. From what I've heard from the Mac community, it is a great program and generally pretty stable. Its offered by Apple themselves as well, so its officially supported (I think).

[CodeMonkey]

Art-y type people tend to go with Macs because they used to beat PC's hands down for video produciton, publishing, and Photoshop type processing.

Case in point: My mother, a multi-media artist, uses a Mac and is hugely comfortable with it but she can't use a PC to save her life.

[SuperSaiyan4]

I am willing to bet that a PC with equal specs to a Mac can easily outperform the Mac on every application that the Mac is supposed to be good at.

In fact I have already seen it quite a while ago on the TV show in the UK called Gadget Show where a PC out performed a G4 or G5 I think it was both with similar specs.

Anyways PC to Mac ratio is like 1000:1

If you like Mac fair enough but I can do a lot more with a PC hehehe *smells PC motherboard and fresh parts* :D

[lurchibald]

I am willing to bet that a PC with equal specs to a Mac can easily outperform the Mac on every application that the Mac is supposed to be good at.

In fact I have already seen it quite a while ago on the TV show in the UK called Gadget Show where a PC out performed a G4 or G5 I think it was both with similar specs.

Anyways PC to Mac ratio is like 1000:1

If you like Mac fair enough but I can do a lot more with a PC hehehe *smells PC motherboard and fresh parts* :D

i just like the upgrade ability of the of the humble PC

[SuperSaiyan4]

Yeah exactly I dont see where you could go buy a nice 8800 graphics card and slap that into the Mac :D

[crimzind]

I hate Macs, personally, I feel the OS is designed for idiots who don't want crap to work the way it logically would.

On Topic, I don't know much about boot camp, but I assume its similar in a way to Virtual PCs, wait, no, it can't be. No, I guess it should. Is it just dual booting OS/X and XP? That would work. No reason it shouldn't. If its a virtual PC thing, well, ask yourself, do you really want to be emulating an operating system, AND playing a game in there? I don't think it would work too well.

[Derangel]

I am willing to bet that a PC with equal specs to a Mac can easily outperform the Mac on every application that the Mac is supposed to be good at.

In fact I have already seen it quite a while ago on the TV show in the UK called Gadget Show where a PC out performed a G4 or G5 I think it was both with similar specs.

Anyways PC to Mac ratio is like 1000:1

If you like Mac fair enough but I can do a lot more with a PC hehehe *smells PC motherboard and fresh parts* :D

Spec for spec, PCs are better. This is due to Apple's hardware policies and now days PCs have great programs. Still the most popular, pro-sumer/professional, photo editing program in the world (Adobe Photoshop) runs better on a Mac than on a PC. This due to Adobe developing for Apple first and PC second. While PC software can do everything a Mac can, a lot of Mac applications are streamlined and designed with the Mac hardware in mind. This is the only advantage to Apple's hardware policies.

I like building my own computers and playing with hardware, but I like OSX's set-up and the simplified (for the most part) installation of programs (drag and drop). Money and Apple's hardware policies are the only things keeping me from getting a Macbook Pro (or Mac Pro) to use as a backup/side side.

[Derangel]

I hate Macs, personally, I feel the OS is designed for idiots who don't want crap to work the way it logically would.

On Topic, I don't know much about boot camp, but I assume its similar in a way to Virtual PCs, wait, no, it can't be. No, I guess it should. Is it just dual booting OS/X and XP? That would work. No reason it shouldn't. If its a virtual PC thing, well, ask yourself, do you really want to be emulating an operating system, AND playing a game in there? I don't think it would work too well.

Boot Camp is unique in the way it works. Its like Microsoft's Virtual PC program, yet not quite. It does allow you to dual-boot a system, but it also uses software emulation. XP is installed on the the hard drive, directly, as are drivers for the Mac hardware. Even still, XP can not boot natively on the Mac (due to the way Apple designs its hardware) so it needs a piece of software to emulate the normal X86 PC environment. HardOCPs "30 Days with OSX" feature has a good run down of how Boot Camp works.

[BioShockWins]

I know that, but I don´t think they were planning to play bioshock on an Ipod:mad:

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[OZSplicer07]

ok,

Yes with your current Intel iMac, Macbook Pro and Mac Pro, with Boot Camp you can play Bioshock, but you will have to use either Low or Medium settings if to go by the Recent leaked specs.

BUT from what i have read the newer iMacs coming out soon will probably have a better Graphics card that could run it??

But atm, current models you can run Bioshock in Boot Camp but in a Low or medium setting.

BTW to those typical PC owners that are bashing the hell out of people who have Mac's, YES they are undermined due to the Graphics Cards atm, Mac's do make great simple computers for people who are articulate and want something easy to use and doesn't get any spyware, ad-ware or viruses but when you think about it, what do u prefer, having a Virus strewn Operating System that slows down your computer and crashes every chance it gets when its on the internet, or an operating system that Works!!!!!!!!

P.S I do have both Mac and PC and even though i use my PC for Gaming ONLY!!!!!!, my mac is 80% of what i do right now which is internet access and email.

My words are, if you like both HAVE BOTH!!!!

[v.dog]

I hate Macs, personally, I feel the OS is designed for idiots who don't want crap to work the way it logically would.Personally, I find it just a logical as XP (and more logical than Vista). Different, but just as logical. My only beef is having to go to the top of the screen to get a context menu, but that's easily fixed with a two-button mouse and a setting change.

They're smooth, slick, secure, and speedy. Which is nice. Too bad they're expensive and lack support for more games.

[shozk]

haha.... it's funny to see people who don't know s*** about Macs gloat how PCs are so much better....

Oh well, here I am to argue the other way.

<rant>

I am typing this on my Mac.

My Mac is a quad 3.0GHz Intel-based machine. I have 16 gigs of RAM and a full gig of video RAM.

I use parallels on OSX to run just about any app I want. I can run any PC game on the market at full graphical settings without my machine even breaking a sweat.


I have never had a hard system crash that required re-booting. Ironically, the app that crashes the most is Word running natively in XP.


I have absolutely no doubt that I can run Bioshock with full settings. On my abosolutely beautiful 30-inch cinema display.

This machine is totally worth the price. It is true that Macs are more expensive than most PCs, but if you are a gamer, than most pcs are absolute crap for gameing without some costly upgrades.

True, PCs are good too. I have a PC.....I just have no use for it, and it's fallen in to disrepair. Then again, what happens if you only have a PC and you want to run an app like Final Cut.......you are kinda screwed. PC's don't run OSX. Mac's run both.

I have no dought that my machine is better than a lot of PCs. I also have no dought that there are other machines that are better than mine.

I love how Windows fanboys point out that OSX is so simple it's stupid. Then again, Windows is totally complex....that's what happens when you take the same thing that ran Windows 2000 and add layers upon layers of new crap and features. Vista is just a skinned XP with some "extras" that we saw two versions of OSX before.


pwnt.


</rant>

I love my mac!:D :D :D

I can't wait to play Bioshock on it!

[lurchibald]

@shozk: and how much did it cost you?

[Donelop]

Boot Camp fully runs Windows, so it will work fine. You might want to make sure you have a good Mac though. With it doing emulation, it might eat up a few more resources than normal. I've never seen any statics posted on whether or not this is the case, though.

ya i have the Mac Pro with upgrades so it should. now i can buy it for pc and 360. :D

[shozk]

@shozk: and how much did it cost you?



about as much as it would if i was building a pc with the same specs ;)

[shozk]

I know that, but I don´t think they were planning to play bioshock on an Ipod:mad:

i can't wait for someone to make a screencap of bioshock, then film themselves playing it back on a video ipod....

....posted on youtube with a title like "BIOSHOCK ON IPOD!!!!1!!1!one!eleven1!

[Donelop]

i can't wait for someone to make a screencap of bioshock, then film themselves playing it back on a video ipod....

....posted on youtube with a title like "BIOSHOCK ON IPOD!!!!1!!1!one!eleven1!

lol thats so jokes. i watch one with a xbox game on it (gears) and this kid really thought he was playing it, i almost died of laughter

[lurchibald]

about as much as it would if i was building a pc with the same specs ;)

WOW i bow to your awesome money making ability that thing would have cost a fortune:eek:

[Derangel]

ok,

Yes with your current Intel iMac, Macbook Pro and Mac Pro, with Boot Camp you can play Bioshock, but you will have to use either Low or Medium settings if to go by the Recent leaked specs.

BUT from what i have read the newer iMacs coming out soon will probably have a better Graphics card that could run it??

But atm, current models you can run Bioshock in Boot Camp but in a Low or medium setting.

BTW to those typical PC owners that are bashing the hell out of people who have Mac's, YES they are undermined due to the Graphics Cards atm, Mac's do make great simple computers for people who are articulate and want something easy to use and doesn't get any spyware, ad-ware or viruses but when you think about it, what do u prefer, having a Virus strewn Operating System that slows down your computer and crashes every chance it gets when its on the internet, or an operating system that Works!!!!!!!!

P.S I do have both Mac and PC and even though i use my PC for Gaming ONLY!!!!!!, my mac is 80% of what i do right now which is internet access and email.

My words are, if you like both HAVE BOTH!!!!

Current Mac Pros have Geforce 8 series cards in them and some insane specs. iMacs are crap. They always have been crap and always will be crap. Bx should run fine on current Mac Pros, medium-high or above.

Don't diss Windows too much. If Apple were in the lead their OS would look just as holey, bug-ridden, and virus strewn as Windows does now. There is NO point for people to waste time making viruses for Apple because they hold such a small share of the market. Its more worthwhile to make Linux viruses because at least they have a strong presence in the server market. Beyond hardware issue I've NEVER had problems with my PCs. If you are not a total idiot (like the majority of people that own computers) any computer will run fine for you. Its the morons that mess everything up. Apple should be happy that they're not so big in the market. They'd have too many idiots to deal with. Of course if Apple were in the lead the hardware market would die.

[shozk]

WOW i bow to your awesome money making ability that thing would have cost a fortune:eek:



it did...

it is my baby....haha


im still getting bioshock for 360 tho.

[JBaums]

I was wondering if i could run bioshock on my MacBook using Boot Camp with Vista home? That would be alot easier for me than having to buy a new PC.

[Daniel1431]

Don't take my word for it but if you are running the Windows Vista operating system I don't think you should encounter a problem. Try posting this question in the other section which is where you ask developers questions. I cannot think what the thread is called now.

[Derangel]

If you Macbook meets or exceeds the minimum requirements you shouldn't have a problem. Boot Camp simply emulates a PC and allows Windows to run on Mac hardware.

[JBaums]

thanks!!! I really wanted to play bioshock on my flight from Florida to California and wanted to make shure i can.

[chirs3]

thanks!!! I really wanted to play bioshock on my flight from Florida to California and wanted to make shure i can.

Hope you've got a hell of a battery for that laptop.

[Veridiac]

Isn't "Boot Camp" just a fancy cutesy name for a boot loader ie if your running windows through "Boot Camp" You just booted windows instead of OSX?

Macs are generally not super powerful though, what are the specs on that? Plus laptops in general have poor 3D support, in particular what video card is in it?

[BioShockWins]

didn't you make this same exact thread a few months back?

[FreshLaundryX]

Someone might now know this, so I'll say it for the benefit of all:

Some airlines have power outlets underneath the seats that you can plug your laptop, or other devices, into.

[Derangel]

Isn't "Boot Camp" just a fancy cutesy name for a boot loader ie if your running windows through "Boot Camp" You just booted windows instead of OSX?

Macs are generally not super powerful though, what are the specs on that? Plus laptops in general have poor 3D support, in particular what video card is in it?

Yes, its a fancy boot loader. It also holds all of the drivers for the Mac hardware to work on Windows.

Macs can be powerful, if you spend the money. If he has a recent Macbook Pro then they all have 8600s in them.

[Giftmacher]

about as much as it would if i was building a pc with the same specs ;)

That isn't answering the question is it... and yes no doubt building a Mac server will cost roughly as much as building another PC server. Why? because Macs are intel PCs now. Good news for Mac users of course because it makes their PC's cheaper and Windows compatible if you want to use boot camp (that means yes Windows and win apps will work on your Mac PC :rolleyes: ).

And I'd also like to note that of course specs wise servers are more impressive, but also over powered for a desktop gamer. Quad core is lovely, but how many home user apps are multi-threaded in order to benefit from that power? Not many, if any. Same goes for stacks of RAM.

Seriously amusing as the holy OS wars are, is there any need for them here? The original question was answered, there are other boards for people to compare their e-wang on. Same goes for holding pointless arguments over their favoured platform... Fedora anyone? :p

Gift.