8 Player Round Robin Tourney #2

[ITZ DENI3D]

Standard rules of fair play established in other round robin tourneys apply. there will be no oxford. each player will play 2 games against the other 7 members. all civs must be used once, with the exception of china and america. after the 14 games are completed the top 4 players will move on to the playoff rounds. the 1 and 4 seed, and the 2 and 3 seed will meet each other in best of 3 series. the winners will then meet in a best of 5 for the championship. civs used in the 1st playoff round will not be eligible in the final series. the higher seed in playoff matches will host the 1st, 3rd, and 5th games. ties between the 1-4 seeds will be broken via head to head record. if ties can't be broken in this manner the higher seed will be determined by a h2h matchup (ffa if more than 2 are tied). all ties in which to lower seed does not make the playoff will be determined by h2h or ffa play.
participation is open to all board members, regardless of statis in other tourney brackets. all i ask is that entrants effort to complete matches asap.
any and all disputes will be mediated by the tourney host (me in this case).

If you are wondering yes I copied this from the first one Dan set up :) This will be my first time mediating a tourney so please be a little lenient if I screw up on a few of the details :eek: Would like to have this done within a month if possible, if you are busy or have plans just let us know ahead of time so we can possibly try to get our games in ASAP. Ohh, and one more thing, just want to make sure everyone remembers if Mawpawk enters save your Zulu's and Aztecs for him ;) ♥


1.ITz DENI3D
2. Dukeblue1987
3.forum-GT preyforme
4.Digitalpackrat
5.ademoabo68-think that is his gt to?
6.danthechan-GT Coolhandlewke
7. Grizzleytigers4- BladesofDrizzit spelling might be off
8. Mawpawk

[ITZ DENI3D]

ITz DENI3D 8-6

Dukeblue9187: Russians(W) Romans(W)
MultiPlayaBeast: EnglishL(L) Zulu(W)
Digitalpackrat: French(L) Indians(W)
ademoabo68: Mongols(L) Egypt(W)
coolhandlewke: Greeks(W) Japan(W)
bladesofdrizzt: Spanish(L) Arabs(L)
Mawpawk: Germans(L) Aztecs(W)

Dukeblue1987 9-5

ITz DENI3D: Germans(L) Russians(L)
MultiPlayaBeast: English(L) Aztecs(W)
Digitalpackrat: Indians(L) Romans(W)
ademoabo68: French(W) Mongols(W)
coolhandlewke: Japan(W) Greeks(W)
Bladesofdrizzt: Spanish(W) Arabs(W)
Mawpawk: Zulu(W) Egypt(L)

MultiPlayaBeast 7-7

ITZ DENI3D: Egypt(W) Germans(L)
Dukeblue1987: Romans(W) Japan(L)
Digitalpackrat: Aztecs(W) Spanish(W)
ademoabo68: Mongols(L) English(L)
Coolhandlewke: Indians(W) Zulu(W)
Bladesofdrizzt: Greeks(W) French(L)
Mawpawk: Russians(L) Arabs(L)

Digitalpackrat 7-7

ITz DENI3D: Indians(W) French(L)
Dukeblue1987: Germans(W) Greeks(L)
MultiPlayaBeast: Arabs(L) Egypt(L)
ademoabo68: Romans(L) Mongols(W)
coolhandlewke: Japan(W) Russia(L)
Bladesofdrizzt: English(W) Aztec(W)
Mawpawk: Zulu(W) Spanish(L)

ademoabo68 6-8

ITZ DENI3D: Germans(W) Mongols(L)
Dukeblue1987: Zulu(L) Arabs(L)
MultiPlayaBeast: England(W) Spain(W)
Digitalpackrat: Indians(W) Japan(L)
coolhandlewke: French(L) Rome(L)
Bladezofdrizzit: Greeks(L) Aztecs(W)
Mawpawk: Egypt(W) Russians(L)

Coolhandlewke 5-9

ITZ DENI3D: Japan(L) Russia(L)
Dukeblue1987: Arabs(L) Zulu(L)
MultiPlayaBeast: Mongols(L) Indians(L)
Digitalpackrat: French(L) Aztecs(W)
ademoabo68: Greece(W) Spain(W)
Bladesofdrizzt: English(L) Egypt(W)
Mawpawk: Germans(L) Romans(W)

Bladesofdrizzt 6-8

ITz DENI3D: Aztecs(W) Arabs(W)
Dukeblue1987: Spanish(L) Indians(L)
MultiPlayaBeast: Russia(W) French(L)
Digitalpackrat: Germans(L) Zulu(L)
ademoabo68: Greeks(W) English(L)
Coolhandlewke: Japan(W) Rome(L)
Mawpawk: Mongols(L) Egypt(W)

Mawpawk 8-6

ITz DENI3D: English(W) French(L)
Dukeblue1987: Aztecs(L) Mongols(W)
MultiPlayaBeast: Germans(W) Russians(W)
Digitalpackrat: India(L) Zulu(W)
ademoabo68: Romans(L) Japan(W)
Coolhandlewke: Egypt(W) Spain(L)
Bladesofdrizzt: Greeks(W) Arabs(L)

[dukeblue1987]

sign me up, boss.

[forum]

Sign me up. Always nice to win two in a row....

[Digitalpackrat]

I am ready to take the crown from forum. I wasn't in the last one

[ademoabo68]

Can I join or must I proove myself worthy first?

[danthechan]

i'm in. i've been itching for some more action.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

im in this one

[Mawpawk]

im in this one

sign me up plz

[dukeblue1987]

I think its great that it took us 5 hours to fill a bracket. Props to the Civ Rev community!

[ITZ DENI3D]

LOL multi will be upset he missed out, ohh well early bird gets the worm :D Alright, guess get your games in when you can and lets try to make this as good as Dan's tourney was :) Really expected it to take at least a day to fill up lol.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

BladesOf Drizzt

[ITZ DENI3D]

Possibly thinking about making a 9 player round robin tourney in the future that includes America and China :eek:

[MultiPlayaBeast]

possibly thinking about making a 9 player round robin tourney in the future that includes america and china :eek:

bull crap! I want in on this tourney! Make it 10 or 12 man dammit!

[ITZ DENI3D]

bull crap! I want in on this tourney! Make it 10 or 12 man dammit!

Got a better idea if someone wants to they can start another 8 player round robin tourney. We will play out each bracket on its own and then the two winners of the 8 man bracket will face off in a best of 10! Like the Super bowl of 8 man tourneys, well sort of :confused:

[Digitalpackrat]

Got a better idea if someone wants to they can start another 8 player round robin tourney. We will play out each bracket on its own and then the two winners of the 8 man bracket will face off in a best of 10! Like the Super bowl of 8 man tourneys, well sort of :confused:

problem is I am not sure there are 8 more unique forum members that are active to play

[GrizzleyTigers4]

problem is I am not sure there are 8 more unique forum members that are active to play

Hindsight's so annoying isnt it....if we had established this rule beforehand the winner would be playing prey for the super bowl of 8 man tourneys....

[ademoabo68]

Talked to prey. He thought it was a cool idea and was willing to give his spot to multi and then later face the winner. You in multi? Whaaat? ;)

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Talked to prey. He thought it was a cool idea and was willing to give his spot to multi and then later face the winner. You in multi? Whaaat? ;)

I'll take it!

[ITZ DENI3D]

Talked to prey. He thought it was a cool idea and was willing to give his spot to multi and then later face the winner. You in multi? Whaaat? ;)

We'll if hes sure I guess it is ok...

[ITZ DENI3D]

Hindsight's so annoying isnt it....if we had established this rule beforehand the winner would be playing prey for the super bowl of 8 man tourneys....

Save us captain hindsight! :D

[danthechan]

why did you bail from the ranked h2h lobby last night denied? i thought we could make it a tourney game. look for me the next 3 nights.

[ITZ DENI3D]

why did you bail from the ranked h2h lobby last night denied? i thought we could make it a tourney game. look for me the next 3 nights.

Really? I don't even remember seeing you, I think I may have left to play Halo wars with Mawpawk and Morte...

[ITZ DENI3D]

Me and and Digital had our first game but it lasted longer than he expected so he had to leave. We were pretty even when we quit so we decided a redo was the best option. My French V.S. his Indians...

[ITZ DENI3D]

I switched it, that was nice of prey to step aside to let multi play :)

[Liam_Sutty]

Damned it I missed this again!! :-(

[GrizzleyTigers4]

Save us captain hindsight! :D

Sometimes all you have to do is put an idea out there....you know Prey wants to be the Super Champion.....sounds cool

[Digitalpackrat]

Me and and Digital had our first game but it lasted longer than he expected so he had to leave. We were pretty even when we quit so we decided a redo was the best option. My French V.S. his Indians...

Man I can't believe you went the french against me and then kept it that close. well played. can't wait for the rematch.

[dukeblue1987]

Game 1 vs MawPawk

My Zulu vs his Aztec

I walk 5 turns b/c I can't find a tree. This blocks off MawPawk on a peninsula. There is a barb between us. He already has horses out. I take Japan with a warrior army and a few huts. He galley drops my cap (pretty much knew I was losing it to that or horses) but I had 100 g so I knew it would be a hard fought game.

It's pretty even and then I find AW for fundy and the tides turn. But then a barb attacks my city .5 to 1 and of course it wins so my 100g city is gone. But I manage to take Egypt and China with a fundy HA and 2 fundy impi armies. Maw fights back for china and takes it, but with fundy I have enough firepower to take it back. I had gotten the AoC right after AW and my first GP was a artist to flip back my original cap.

GG MawPawk, I thought you had me.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Man I can't believe you went the french against me and then kept it that close. well played. can't wait for the rematch.

AW really saved my ass, I doubt I will have that close of a game in our next...

[dukeblue1987]

2nd game vs Mawpawk his Mongols vs my Egypt Oracle (Broken)

I lose my first warior .67 to .5 agaist a barb. Thanks Oracle. That really slows me down big. He takes Japs and Arabs for fundy. Yikes. At that point I think I had about a 5% chance of winning but I stuck it out. I took India very very late. I ended up dropping a HA and taking one of his barb cities to get fundy. So now it's a game again (kinda). We fight for a bit and I use a GA to flip his HA and make him spend some gold. I start expanding and teching up. Then, out of nowhere he comes with a knight army at 8 techs. My legions lose 9 to 12 (just under 50/50 battle if my odds are correct) and he takes my cities. If I win the legion vs knight battle I think I win as I had my own knights and could have defended. Oh well, well played on both sides I think. GG MawPawk.

[Mawpawk]

gd games duke, evry turn is like playing chess with you,

[dukeblue1987]

Lost 2 vs denied. no chance for me to win either one. First game his Russians vs my Germans. He gets walk in on Spain, early HA to my cap. Attacks my archer 9 to 5, no injury. My WA loses again his HA.

Next his Romans vs my Russia. He gets AW for fundy, 7 cities, cap. I get a Mongol barb city. I could have had a 6vs6 against his HA in Thebes the turn he took it but of course Thebes grows that turn and culture pushes me 3 tiles away. Of course.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Well I played 2 V.S. Duke and both games were kind of over before they started. My Russia V.S. his Germans, I move and get HBR from friendly with no gold hammer out a horsemen at 3400 and Spain shows up right next to me. I kill Spain's warrior from a hill 3-1.5 then take Madrid next turn for Nav. I come with a vet HA. He takes out America and builds a road to Berlin. He gets BW from them. I attack 9-4 and take Berlin not getting injured. He attacks 4.5-6 to try to take cap back but loses so he quits. He also got pottery from his first hut which definitely hindered his chances...

My Rome V.S. his Russians. I move for like 5 turns and get a friendly for 25. I settle next to ox 2 water and 2 trees. I rush warrior to take a barb 2 turns away and tech HBR. I get 40 and take another barb closer to duke. He settled right where I started. I take that barb for another 40 I believe. I get another friendly and it shows me AW. I rush a boat to get it. I switch to fundy and go for Egypt to the south of me. A few turns later I find 7cog and he calls it. GG's sorry they weren't to much fun for you :(

[dukeblue1987]

GG's sorry they weren't to much fun for you :(

Meh, I had 2 fun games against MawPawk. In the world of civ, 50% fun games is a very good percentage.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Me V.S Digital

In our French V.S. Indian rematch I got a horrible start with alphabet for my first barb. I take out Mongols and he takes out russians I get 50 gold from a barb later but it is to late. I can't defend so I call it.


Second game my Indians V.S. his French. I settle next to rubber and nothing else. I get a lot of gold and get a vet HA up at 2900. I end up taking out Rome for Alphabet, and I tried buying all the tech Digital was selling to them so I would get COL. I take out aztecs with another HA and that just leaves him and Germans. Germans are at the end of a peninsula I take their 100 g city in one turn and try to take their cap. I keep attacking in fundy with blitz and they somehow continue to have units. I see a GB pop up in their city so I decide to tech Writing and build a spy to take it since I realize I can take their cap whenever I want. My first GP was a scientist which I used on Monarchy. I walk GB back to my cap and build Sam Castle. I get a GL from Monarchy and I settle it in Delhi to make upgraded knights. I take Berlin which gives me 4/5 caps. I take a nice city of his with 2 fish and a library and it has a road connecting it to Paris. He GB's EITC. He takes an unimportant city from me with a Galleon fleet and a single catapult. So I build a march/blitz KA and leave it behind in case he decides to go for my important 100g city. Well the game freezes on him and when he came back the AI had sold his Galleon fleet which freaking sucked so he called it. I would give him a rematch but since I had 4 caps and was pretty sure I could take Paris with a few upgraded KA's and I don't really think that would be fair. He agreed that I should have the win but was very upset about the resynch and getting screwed over by the freeze. I completely agree and I'm sorry that happened I wanted to play it out it would've been epic either way. GG's... :)

[Mawpawk]

mawpawk vs itz 1-1

my english vs germans wins

my french vs aztec loses, i get early fundy but itz gets early democracy for pikes and japan and 7cog and ark of covenant and KT and soc and manages 2 hold the lead for the win...just;)

[ITZ DENI3D]

mawpawk vs itz 1-1

my english vs germans wins

my french vs aztec loses, i get early fundy but itz gets early democracy for pikes and japan and 7cog and ark of covenant and KT and soc and manages 2 hold the lead for the win...just;)

LOL GG's you proved that you should never go into auto cruise with a giant lead. Without industrialization I very well could've lost that game GG :)

[ITZ DENI3D]

Two quick games with Dan and he couldn't have done anything differently. First Greeks V.S. his Japs. He walks into me at 3900 and I settle. Apparently we were at the end of a peninsula and I was going to get the only barb so he called it.

My Japs V.S his Russians. I get walk in on india and end up taking Athens with Infiltration HA and get Demo. I steal a GB that settled when he took out Americans so he called it. I was about to have 4 cathedrals due to AoC in a few turns so the GB really didn't change the huge lead I had it just made it insurmountable... GG's sort of :confused:

[Mawpawk]

mawpawk vs multiplayer beast 2-0 to me

my germans vs multis russians

, pretty gd start for multi as he found KT on the mainland 3600? and i didnt find a barb till 3100bc , but i did kill his KT and take a 4pop thebes, he also found angor, and built the GW but luckily for me he couldnt resist attacking and gave me a chance 2 take 2 of his cities, he called it quits after i killed his horsearmy

my russians vs arabs, multi realizes hes on an island at 3300bc but gets happier when the barbs tell him where 7cog is, i get happier than that when my barb given galley takes the golden pyrimad for the win.

[ITZ DENI3D]

I think this may be the fastest moving tourney in forum history I'm not sure... :D

[ITZ DENI3D]

i get early fundy but itz gets early democracy for pikes and japan and 7cog and ark of covenant and KT and soc and manages 2 hold the lead for the win...just;)

and LCOA ;) ♥ and cruisers and industrialization and rifleman and why are there so many ands?? :D

[GrizzleyTigers4]

GG's Itz.....your play has obviously improved of late....btw...I guess we never got around too it but multi and I split 1-1.....I won the russia vs french.....and then he won the russia vs french.....gg's

[GrizzleyTigers4]

mawpawk vs multiplayer beast 2-0 to me

my germans vs multis russians

, pretty gd start for multi as he found KT on the mainland 3600? and i didnt find a barb till 3100bc , but i did kill his KT and take a 4pop thebes, he also found angor, and built the GW but luckily for me he couldnt resist attacking and gave me a chance 2 take 2 of his cities, he called it quits after i killed his horsearmy

my russians vs arabs, multi realizes hes on an island at 3300bc but gets happier when the barbs tell him where 7cog is, i get happier than that when my barb given galley takes the golden pyrimad for the win.

Multi used russia twice

[ITZ DENI3D]

Multi used russia twice

Really? WTF? Any suggestions how I deal with this? Whatever you guys think is best I don't think a rematch would be fair to Mawpawk though...

[dukeblue1987]

Really? WTF? Any suggestions how I deal with this? Whatever you guys think is best I don't think a rematch would be fair to Mawpawk though...

Take off one of his mid level civs. Not too harsh, but fair. Maybe Japan or something.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Take off one of his mid level civs. Not too harsh, but fair. Maybe Japan or something.

Sounds good to me.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

Yea I dont think it really matters who he doesnt use as long as he does use the mongols...

[dukeblue1987]

Multi and I split

His romans beat my english
My aztec beat his french


Both games were very boring as one of us got a huge advantage in the first 10 turns. In fact, I didn't even get a hut or barb in my first game and multi had SoC before I settled! The Aztec game I had 3 vet HA and 250 gold in ancient.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I split with Mawpawk
Gm1 his greeks vs my mongols.....man I goofed...attacked a spanish warrior from my cap to injure it and walk around it for the walk in....but it wouldnt let me retreat so spain ai took me out...
Gm2 Awesome game here...his Arabs vs my Egypt with Stonehenge. He takes USA early and get the GW which stinks. I see 7CoG clear at the opposite pole so I send my 100g settler for it. Maw taes that city but the damage is done. Ive gotten Trading post and barracks, nav and cats. we battle a lot his legions vs my cats then his cats vs my cats and I defend for the win. it might have been closer if his kids were on top of him...GGs
1-1 maw vs me

1 in vs dan. His english vs my japan. he takes russia early but I think I get most of the gold. He was doing well and expanding but I sent 2 CA to his cap. Apparently I took his cap before he could transfer mad saved production and I got 7C same turn so he called it.
1-0 vs dan

2-1 overall

[ITZ DENI3D]

Since multi used Russians AND French twice we will substitute them for Japs and Greeks. Dammit multi pay attention ;) :D

[dukeblue1987]

Beat grizz spanish vs spanish. Weirdest thing happened. I was about to take the American cap AND take a GB from then the same turn. Then the GOD DAMN BARBS KILLED THE AMERICA AI!!! Poof! City gone! What a joke!

Other than that, I got 2 scientists and a humanitarian and irrigation bonus. That equals early knights and fundy with a lot of big cities to fall back on. GG grizz.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I just goofed up against Duke. Spanish mirror match. I take the mongols early and he is just on the other side. I have 3 warrios in there and he has 1 outside the city. I attack with one warrior before I form the army and try to retreat to late losing the warrior. duke then builds a WA and takes the cap 1 turn before I can get my WA together. Should have destroyed him and taken his cap but I goofed and he took it from me leaving me with low gold and one 2 pop cap. GG duke

[dukeblue1987]

I just goofed up against Duke. Spanish mirror match. I take the mongols early and he is just on the other side. I have 3 warrios in there and he has 1 outside the city. I attack with one warrior before I form the army and try to retreat to late losing the warrior. duke then builds a WA and takes the cap 1 turn before I can get my WA together. Should have destroyed him and taken his cap but I goofed and he took it from me leaving me with low gold and one 2 pop cap. GG duke

I actually would have had a WA on the other side of that single warrior. I was hoping you were going to attack it so I could kill your WA with mine (depending on wounds). You should have just made a warrior army in the Mongol cap and you would have won as we would have been even but you could make 4 gold a turn out of the Mongol cap.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Ade if you could let us know what times you are on it would help since you have the latest time zone and it will be hard to get our games in since you are hardly on. I'm not rushing you this tournament is going super fast it would just be easier for everyone to know what times you are available...

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I see error in your plan your WA would have been attacking my vet WA in a tree so even if it was injured you would have been attacking 3-4.5 or 3-6 and probably would have lost. Besides on mic you agreed that it would have been over if I had simply retreated and made the army like I tried to do. Oh well......a goof is a goof

[ademoabo68]

Ade if you could let us know what times you are on it would help since you have the latest time zone and it will be hard to get our games in since you are hardly on. I'm not rushing you this tournament is going super fast it would just be easier for everyone to know what times you are available...

I'm on gmt (same as prey). The last few days my son has occupied the xbox, but I'm going to play a lot in the days to come. If I see any of you guys online I'll send an invite.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Me and ade played 2 games in about 10 min. First my Mongols V.S. his Germans. I get a very good start, at least for the Mongols I get friendly for 25 and name 2 tiles I take one barb then he shows up with a WA 2 turns away from cap, my single warrior served me well and injured his army twice! I have enough time to build a WA in cap. He attacks me and retreats and I get veteran. I tech BW and build an archer and send my WA to Washington 3 turns away. I lose 4.5-3 and it is game over :(

My Egyptians V.S. his Mongols. I get HGB and a friendly and it shows me 7cog. I build a warrior and save up hammers I get a barb that is 2 turns away from his cap. He gets a walk in on Greeks but no tech. I win a 3-2.5 and take his cap game over. GG's I guess lol

[ademoabo68]

Ademoabo vs ITz DENI3D 1-1

Nothing much to say really.

Game 1; germany vs mongols
We both walk a few turns. I settle close to france. No name tiles, so have to hammer out a warrior. Passed a barb and decides to take it out and make a WA to capture Paris. Gets a caravan and meet the mongols. Make WA and head for Karakorum. He attacks with single warrior and by the time I doubleheal he has a fortified WA. I got march, make another WA and head for Paris. At this time he looses 5-4,5 to the americans and call it quits.

Game 2: mongols vs egypt

I walk two turns, pass a barb and see the greek border. Walk in at 3300 but get no democracy? Same turn egypt single wounded warrior shows up besides Karakorum. Next turn he leaves and I fortify my single warrior. Head back from Athens to make WA, but he doublemoves his WA and takes my capitol. Also tells me he will get 7cog in five turns. I have Athens + 1 warrior, no gold. Attack 1 vs 4 and loose :) (damn ;)) and resign.

To bad we started so close both games. Mongols can be quite a factor if they survive the first few rounds. GG

[GrizzleyTigers4]

1-1 vs ademoabo
gm1 greek vs greek...I am told where 7cog and the knight wonder are but they are N pole I am south. So I rush a settler out of 3 pop athens and make the trek eventually getting both and SoC...he put up a valliant fight but my steamer cats got him in the end
gm2 his aztec vs my spanish
I have a bad settler walk and walk back 1 turn to settle. Just before I do he settles with his borders touching me and takes out japan next turn. I decide to walk away. 2800bc and I still havent found any gold. I finally settle in his starting spot so he knows exactly where to send his HA......pitiful that one.....GGs ade

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Since multi used Russians AND French twice we will substitute them for Japs and Greeks. Dammit multi pay attention ;) :D

Sorry Deni3d for putting work on you and screwing up this tourney. If anyone feels that my using French and Russians twice was very dishonorable and don't want to go with Deni3d, Grizz and Duke on me staying, I'll give up my spot. LOL, really don't see how I screwed up TWICE by using those civs again...

[GrizzleyTigers4]

Sorry Deni3d for putting work on you and screwing up this tourney. If anyone feels that my using French and Russians twice was very dishonorable and don't want to go with Deni3d, Grizz and Duke on me staying, I'll give up my spot. LOL, really don't see how I screwed up TWICE by using those civs again...

If it makes you feel better Ill replay you in the russian game you beat me in so you can use a different civ....:D:D

[MultiPlayaBeast]

If it makes you feel better Ill replay you in the russian game you beat me in so you can use a different civ....:D:D

I'll pass, lol!

[ademoabo68]

1-1 vs ademoabo
gm1 greek vs greek...I am told where 7cog and the knight wonder are but they are N pole I am south. So I rush a settler out of 3 pop athens and make the trek eventually getting both and SoC...he put up a valliant fight but my steamer cats got him in the end
gm2 his aztec vs my spanish
I have a bad settler walk and walk back 1 turn to settle. Just before I do he settles with his borders touching me and takes out japan next turn. I decide to walk away. 2800bc and I still havent found any gold. I finally settle in his starting spot so he knows exactly where to send his HA......pitiful that one.....GGs ade

Just a typo, but you used the english vs my aztechs. That' s why I confused the japanese border to yours ;). GGs

[danthechan]

Two quick games with Dan and he couldn't have done anything differently. First Greeks V.S. his Japs. He walks into me at 3900 and I settle. Apparently we were at the end of a peninsula and I was going to get the only barb so he called it.

My Japs V.S his Russians. I get walk in on india and end up taking Athens with Infiltration HA and get Demo. I steal a GB that settled when he took out Americans so he called it. I was about to have 4 cathedrals due to AoC in a few turns so the GB really didn't change the huge lead I had it just made it insurmountable... GG's sort of :confused:
i didn't see any way to play the 1st 1. you settled next to the only barb, and was going to take it at 1 flag. i could only retreat, and there was only about 12 barren tiles to work with. like starting on an empty island, except the enemy knows where you are and can walk there.
i had a decent start in the 2nd game with russia. took dc with the settled builder, then sent out my WA. i met denied and lost the WA to his HA. my horses were out of position cleaning out barbs behind moscow, so i had to form an AA to keep him out of my area. he never attacked and i sent out the vet AA with another vet archer to locate his cities, with 2 vet HA's to follow. with my units just out of range to help he landed with his spy and HA. i only had a single vet archer in dc, but might have rushed more in time to save the city until cavalry arrived. losing the builder was deflating though and i meakly gave up. he would have had the gw, eitc, or sam castle before my forces ever reached him.

[danthechan]

lost a game to grizz, my english vs his japan. we both seemed to start slow. i settled london with 2 trees and no food, then walked in on moscow. i made a huge mistake moving a caravan north. i had been going 2 steps at a time. when i finally got brave and moved 3 spaces i lost it to a barb. that slowed my 1st horse by 4 turns or so. that led to me meeting grizzs horse at the nearest barb instead of taking it. we traded a couple single horses and he retreated from the area. i eventually got a vet HA but bejjing wasn't falling this late. i was finally getting somewhere, taking a french city on their island and settling some dye. he thwarted my plans by double moving some CA's and taking london. i was storing a gb there which i wasn't sure how to use. i was going to steal a 2nd gb from france in the coming turns. i was very frustrated, as when he attacked i still had 15 seconds to move. i opened up the city screen but the clock then ran out in super fast mode. i had about 30 banked hammers that could have saved london. i had a barracks in moscow and should have just had an army there to be safe. it would have been a challenge to hold moscow, but i gave in before finding out. grizz had the gw btw.

[danthechan]

my germans lost to mawpawks egypt w/collosus. he had 3 deserts while i started far away, with little gold. i took zimbabwe, barely, and the ark with 3 cities. i never got close to 100 g and never got a barracks. he was cranking out 80 tech when i called it. we were wasting our time.

[ITZ DENI3D]

i didn't see any way to play the 1st 1. you settled next to the only barb, and was going to take it at 1 flag. i could only retreat, and there was only about 12 barren tiles to work with. like starting on an empty island, except the enemy knows where you are and can walk there.
i had a decent start in the 2nd game with russia. took dc with the settled builder, then sent out my WA. i met denied and lost the WA to his HA. my horses were out of position cleaning out barbs behind moscow, so i had to form an AA to keep him out of my area. he never attacked and i sent out the vet AA with another vet archer to locate his cities, with 2 vet HA's to follow. with my units just out of range to help he landed with his spy and HA. i only had a single vet archer in dc, but might have rushed more in time to save the city until cavalry arrived. losing the builder was deflating though and i meakly gave up. he would have had the gw, eitc, or sam castle before my forces ever reached him.

It would've been impossible, I had pikeman there was nothing you could do... Athens was 10 turns away from Deli and Kyoto so you wouldn't have been able to take any of my cities... Not to mention I would be doing over 40 culture a turn with 4 cathedrals in a few turns... GG's but you were screwed all around, and the only reason I got Athens was because I got infiltration upgrade you were destined to lose it buddy sorry :( Eventually we will have an epic game :)

[ITZ DENI3D]

Need some confirmation on what civ Grizz used on 2nd game. Was it English or Spanish?

[danthechan]

It would've been impossible, I had pikeman there was nothing you could do... Athens was 10 turns away from Deli and Kyoto so you wouldn't have been able to take any of my cities... Not to mention I would be doing over 40 culture a turn with 4 cathedrals in a few turns... GG's but you were screwed all around, and the only reason I got Athens was because I got infiltration upgrade you were destined to lose it buddy sorry :( Eventually we will have an epic game :)
i had an inf and regular vet HA, so single pikes wouldn't have stopped me. with the cathederals you would have seen me coming miles away. i did get my good game against you, only in ranked instead of when it mattered. feudalism from a friendly as 3rd tech, ga from the school to steal your scout HA, and dc along with it. pretty nice start.

if you are asking me i only played grizz once yesterday. my english vs his japan. my other game was maw, my germans vs his egypt.

[Mawpawk]

mawpawk vs dan 1-0

my egypt vs dans germans, an eassy win as dans germans didnt have the opportunity 2 mess with thebes before i grew it 2 4pop

mawpawk vs ademoabo 1-1

my romans vs ades egypt(colosusss)
gd game but ade used the GW to great effectiveness 2 win

my japan vs russians i win

[Digitalpackrat]

got 2 games in with grizz

My english vs Grizz Germans
I had 2 paths to choose from and i choose wrong settling next to a barb at the end of a peninsula (i didn't know it was a peninsula until after i explored with my warriors. got 30g and grizz had already taken out an ai. since i knew i was fairly safe from attack and couldn't attack anyone i hammered out a gally and set sail hoping for a gally drop of some relic goody. found a friendly on an island and it showed me SoC for a GS and GA, teched HBR while waiting to get gally back with GP. then Grizz went to war with russia who i met. he eventually took them out and I flipped that city with a march wa in it and it was 4 pop. I rushed knights with GS and loaded an knight army and 100g settler on boat and set sail for grizz's territory i settled my 100g city on an island with fish, 2 whale and dye and dropped the army off right in the center of his territory and took his wide open cap with his barracks. I ventured too far out with KA and it was killed by his LA 9-9. I lost my march wa to an even battle with his la but my 2nd ka takes out his la and I put a vet aa in his cap which he can't take back and he calls it.

2nd game
My Aztec vs Grizz Zulu.
I get walkin on egypt at 3800 for oracle. he takes russia cap. I sneak my way into his territory and take his cap. he get 7cog and i get soc after I get my 1st GP so I got a GH and GB and GA from SoC. i bring my HA defended by archer into his moscow terroitory and flip it and he calls the game

2-0 Me GGs

[GrizzleyTigers4]

just played denied

gm 1 his spain vs my aztec. I start off pretty fast taking the mongols and 3 of their pop 2...thats right pop 2 cities....I get good gold and find a start taking lots of barbs....eventually I get GW and send my HA to Itz cap. He also had japan. I couldnt takke his cap and he then killed my HA. He eventualy drops out when I had 4 KA's and a galleon fleet with a spy heading his way.

gm2 his arab vs my arab. I start on an island but what a start. found 3 huts for 75g and samurai knight wonder. Used the knight to get the only barb on the island for 100g. Put the knight on the mainland with a boat. ended up losing eventually to england 7.-4.5. meanwhile itz has a slow start but eventually takes frances 2 cities. He also has the main land and a march fundy WA so I assume he got gold but dont know. he does end up get SoC. I stole a GB early from france and build EITC with it after using my 1st GS on nav. I get 2 more GS later. 1 from 500g. I ended up using a gs on inv so I could use another gs on steel and used the invention ge for 200g. basically I had a cruiser fleet with 3 fundy vet CA and a KA PA and AA. took one of his cities and he flipped it so I took it back. He calls it.

2-0 me

[ITZ DENI3D]

just played denied

gm 1 his spain vs my aztec. I start off pretty fast taking the mongols and 3 of their pop 2...thats right pop 2 cities....I get good gold and find a start taking lots of barbs....eventually I get GW and send my HA to Itz cap. He also had japan. I couldnt takke his cap and he then killed my HA. He eventualy drops out when I had 4 KA's and a galleon fleet with a spy heading his way.

gm2 his arab vs my arab. I start on an island but what a start. found 3 huts for 75g and samurai knight wonder. Used the knight to get the only barb on the island for 100g. Put the knight on the mainland with a boat. ended up losing eventually to england 7.-4.5. meanwhile itz has a slow start but eventually takes frances 2 cities. He also has the main land and a march fundy WA so I assume he got gold but dont know. he does end up get SoC. I stole a GB early from france and build EITC with it after using my 1st GS on nav. I get 2 more GS later. 1 from 500g. I ended up using a gs on inv so I could use another gs on steel and used the invention ge for 200g. basically I had a cruiser fleet with 3 fundy vet CA and a KA PA and AA. took one of his cities and he flipped it so I took it back. He calls it.

2-0 me

I dropped out because I had no control of my units lol. I missed at least 3 turns that game I froze twice and had to rejoin both times. On the second time after the turn ended I had no control over my units Multi said that only happens if two turns are ended when the human player is gone, I can't verify that so I don't know. All I know is that I didn't quit because of some knight armies you said you had, I quit because I had no control over any of my units. Other than that GG though...

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I dropped out because I had no control of my units lol. I missed at least 3 turns that game I froze twice and had to rejoin both times. On the second time after the turn ended I had no control over my units Multi said that only happens if two turns are ended when the human player is gone, I can't verify that so I don't know. All I know is that I didn't quit because of some knight armies you said you had, I quit because I had no control over any of my units. Other than that GG though...
I didnt say you did I said I had those knight armies heading to your cap when you quit. Besides I lost the same amount of turns that you did because its not like I could play while you were gone I missed those turns too. Lets be honest I had a nice lead or else you wouldnt have given me the win you would have requested a replay, Im pretty sure you said that yourself.

[dukeblue1987]

My French beat ade's Zulu
I get Fundy off the Arabs early and then I am able to hold off the Impi rish with a 50g road. Then 5 vet fundy legion armies later...


My Mongols beat ade's Arabs
He gets an island start and I get a million barbs.


My Arabs beat Grizz's Indians
I played almost perfect this game. I had a big island start but got 2 galleys out and took 2 caps with warriors (Mongol and English for Monarchy). I then applied pressure at various locations throughout the game as I slowly expanded on dye. He quit around 14 techs. I was 2 turns away from knights and had a 11 prod city and a couple other 4 and 6 prod cities. He got SoC early but I got AoC and I think one of his GP was an artist.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

My French beat ade's Zulu
I get Fundy off the Arabs early and then I am able to hold off the Impi rish with a 50g road. Then 5 vet fundy legion armies later...


My Mongols beat ade's Arabs
He gets an island start and I get a million barbs.


My Arabs beat Grizz's Indians
I played almost perfect this game. I had a big island start but got 2 galleys out and took 2 caps with warriors (Mongol and English for Monarchy). I then applied pressure at various locations throughout the game as I slowly expanded on dye. He quit around 14 techs. I was 2 turns away from knights and had a 11 prod city and a couple other 4 and 6 prod cities. He got SoC early but I got AoC and I think one of his GP was an artist.

Ill remember that Duke I told you I was saving my middle teir civs for you and you went and used Arabs on me. I guess you thought you needed an advantage. Ill be using my evil civs against you next time we meet dont worry.....

[MultiPlayaBeast]

MultiPlayaBeast vs Itz Deni3d

1st Game: Multi=Egyptians(Stone) and Deni3d=English

I settle first turn with two desert and Deni3d didn't settle till like 3500 but he had 60g before it. I realize that not just I get Stone but also the Romans in the game... really gay! So I'm upset but I get my 100g waaaaaaay before Deni3d did. He settled in a not so good spot too so I'm ok. I build a HA and take out the Romans for republic. I have enough gold that I rush a trading post in Thebes. I got like 4 cities now and Deni3d is steadily trying to take out the French Paris. He continues to fail doing it and I'm just gaining gold on the side. And the major game changer came when I found AW for GW. Deni3d finds 7cog but unfortunately it was late and him not being able to attack me, him wasting gold on HA for it to lose to Paris gave me the game.
MultiPlayaBeast Wins!

2nd Game: Multi=Germans and Deni3d=Zulu

This game was over simply because he was Zulu. He gets pretty much all the land and I get dumb stuff from barbs. He takes out Russia and eventually Mongols even after losing to them 4.5 to 2.5. He starts to tech away and found KT too. We met and some little scraps ensued but it stayed silent till I made a last chance rush with 5 KA's and they pretty much all died to one elite PA in Zimbabwei. It was game over a looooong time ago.
Itz Deni3d Wins!

[dukeblue1987]

Ill remember that Duke I told you I was saving my middle teir civs for you and you went and used Arabs on me. I guess you thought you needed an advantage. Ill be using my evil civs against you next time we meet dont worry.....

It's all good Grizz, I'll be ready.

Really it was just strategy. If I beat you that game I'm pretty much locked for a final spot.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

It's all good Grizz, I'll be ready.

Really it was just strategy. If I beat you that game I'm pretty much locked for a final spot.

Well with our luck....as "tributes" in the next 8man tourney I propose an alliance.....mwuhaha

[dukeblue1987]

Well with our luck....as "tributes" in the next 8man tourney I propose an alliance.....mwuhaha

Haha too funny

[ITZ DENI3D]

I didnt say you did I said I had those knight armies heading to your cap when you quit. Besides I lost the same amount of turns that you did because its not like I could play while you were gone I missed those turns too. Lets be honest I had a nice lead or else you wouldnt have given me the win you would have requested a replay, Im pretty sure you said that yourself.

No doubt you had a nice lead I'm not denying that but I was no where near finished. I would put myself at 30% to win that game... It wasn't like the Arab game were I was completely screwed...

[Digitalpackrat]

Mawpawk and I split games
1st my zulu vs his indians I won took out arabs early for fundy game over.

2nd game my spain vs his zulu. he got england for monarchy, egypt for stonehenge, KT, AW for GW, and 7cog. I did what I could but that start was insane. I managed to take 6 of his cities but it took forever for me to get steam from him. GG Mawpawk wins

1-1

[GrizzleyTigers4]

and maw split with ade....i know ade was egypt...dunno who maw was

[Mawpawk]

games vs ade was

my japan vs russians winn 4 me

my romans vs egypt i lose

[ITZ DENI3D]

Good job guys it is going fast, Mawpawk don't you still have a game with Dan? Think the cut off point will be 8-6 but who knows, have a feeling we will have our finals this weekend regardless :D Nicely done :)

[danthechan]

beat mawpawk, my romans over his spain. settled with 35 gold, made 2 warriors to kill a barb next to rome. it gave me hbr, so i went after 2 barbs and started hammering a horse. horse is out an i approach a barb south. oops, it 1 flag. pawk or ai? turns out its arabs, jackpot. i take them with a HA and vet it up. i find madrid on a hill with a vet WA but i'm wary. i wait for an archer from my HA side while my WA camps on a hill outside madrid. he finds aw in the meantime and goes republic/fundy. i lose my archer, but my WA and HA take out units. after that he kills my WA 3-3, but my HA starts the next turn by overrunning madrid ftw.

[ITZ DENI3D]

beat mawpawk, my romans over his spain. settled with 35 gold, made 2 warriors to kill a barb next to rome. it gave me hbr, so i went after 2 barbs and started hammering a horse. horse is out an i approach a barb south. oops, it 1 flag. pawk or ai? turns out its arabs, jackpot. i take them with a HA and vet it up. i find madrid on a hill with a vet WA but i'm wary. i wait for an archer from my HA side while my WA camps on a hill outside madrid. he finds aw in the meantime and goes republic/fundy. i lose my archer, but my WA and HA take out units. after that he kills my WA 3-3, but my HA starts the next turn by overrunning madrid ftw.

Nice job Dan way to get on the board :) Seems your unlucky streak is at an end :)

[ITZ DENI3D]

Its looking like me and Mawpawk are in for sure, it just depends what seed we will be fighting for. These next few battles will be interesting to say the least, personally I want to see Dan win 9 in a row and be top seed that would awesome :D

[ademoabo68]

Had two games against multi yesterday. He had a terrible start in both games.

My England beat his Mongols, then my Spain beat his English

[danthechan]

who's going to be on tonight around 9 pm pst? i've got a ton of games to knock out.

[dukeblue1987]

who's going to be on tonight around 9 pm pst? i've got a ton of games to knock out.

That's probably too late for me. Maybe we can catch each other this weekend.

[Digitalpackrat]

got my games in with duke. we split, neither games were skill and were both over in 15 minutes

1st game My germans vs duke indians
we both get galleys from first barb, he gets SoC I get his capital with a galley drop.

2nd game, My greeks vs duke romans
again a boat from the first village each, i get nothing he gets KT at 3500, AW for GW, I get a walk in on russians, he has 100g at 3100, at 2400 I goaded duke into ending it early and he attacked my cap with his inflitration KT and russia with a vet horse army off a hill and thankfully put me out of my missery since I managed to scrap up a whole 25g that entire game

[dukeblue1987]

I think Multi beat Packrat twice but I'm not sure of what civs were used.

Dan - when is a good time for you to play this weekend?

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I think Multi beat Packrat twice but I'm not sure of what civs were used.

Dan - when is a good time for you to play this weekend?

He did....I remember DP saying MPBs aztec crushed him but Im not sure how game 2 went.....MPB did get the sweep though.....nice MPB.....Im pretty sure that is the first time anyone has swept DP in any kind of tourney play since he came back to the forum. I swept him in 2011's RR tourney but that was over a year ago and his skill level has mass evolved so it dont count no mo.....GGs multi

[danthechan]

Dan - when is a good time for you to play this weekend?
sunday and monday i have much flexibility. i am not opposed to appointment gaming at all.

[dukeblue1987]

sunday and monday i have much flexibility. i am not opposed to appointment gaming at all.

I think you're on PST....

How about Sunday night, 8 PM CST so 6 PM PST?

[MultiPlayaBeast]

MultiPlayaBeast vs Digital Packrat

Game 1: Multi=Aztecs and Packrat=Arabs

I found friendly for 25g and then seen barb that gave me 40g. Next the barb two tiles away is Packrat's Araba and I took him out at around 3300bc.
MultiPlayaBeast Wins!

Game 2: Multi=Spanish and Packrat=Egyptians(CoR)

I move my settler and settle two tiles away from Romans. It was a dumb spot to settle but I had no choice if I wanted to Republic psossibly from the Romans. Take them out and soon switch into Republic. Packrat meanwhile tells me he settled next to spices along with two desert. He then takes out the English and that had me extremely scared because Packrat was seeming pretty confident of victory. I get my 100g before Packrat I believe but either way we both got it soon after taking out the AI's. I start to expand to 4 cities when I catch eye of 7cog, niiiiiice! During that I notice that the Americans is on the map and Packrat was attacking them but I don't know with what. Eventually I get a galleon over there to Americans waaaay across the seas from me and on a hill next to them is Egyptian LA. I tried to give the Americans gold though 2 caravans but in the end they inevitably were going to lose with especially Packrat's culture overtaking their trees. Then I try to bother Packrat some but his legions kept me at bay. Then I notice that Packrat accidentally settles a GA in Thebes... That put me at real ease.

Packrat takes out the Americans and its just us. I get 7cog and I build like 4 more settlers. I didn't settle them until a bit later as I couldn't find any real spots for whale. Then not to much longer thereafter... Packrat finds SoC. I got like 6 galleons out by then and searching for the boat where Packrat got SoC. I think it was close to where 7cog was at but either way I come to see the gp on a island where Packrat settled a city. He didn't see that I had a warrior that moved next to the gp a turn before I took them, a GB and GS. I run off with them and gb'd EIC and then soon after I rush invention. Down south I was then being attacked by CA and two LA's. Packrat managed to take my city out but it became a spot for a nice drop off for caravan 225g. So now I'm looking to find the galleon that had the armies but couldn't find it until the last minute when I spot a militia. BTW, I did kill one of those LA's so it left only the CA and a LA to try and take Madrid. Madrid was my barracks city and I made in time a CA and had knights too but not enough to build a KA. In the end, Packrat takes Madrid but I get it back thwarting his plans and then Packrat gives up.
MultiPlayaBeast Wins!

[dukeblue1987]

Packrat managed to take my city out but it became a spot for a nice drop off for caravan 225g.

You do some of the most odd things. I need to play more FFA to get a better sense of the long game. I would have just sold the stupid unit for 30g!!

[ITZ DENI3D]

You do some of the most odd things. I need to play more FFA to get a better sense of the long game. I would have just sold the stupid unit for 30g!!

FFA does prepare you for long games way more than H2H...

[danthechan]

You do some of the most odd things. I need to play more FFA to get a better sense of the long game. I would have just sold the stupid unit for 30g!!
it really depends on your immediate needs. if there is a good option then why not load it on a galleon. you can always sell it if you need the 30. getting a payday like 225 can also help get you to the 500 g gp, or empower an nice army. i liked the gp heist and the invention gs. it pretty much meant digital wasn't getting any more gp's except the 500 (if he got there).

[ademoabo68]

hey danthechan and digital. would like to finish our games. are you ready tomorrow?

[danthechan]

hey danthechan and digital. would like to finish our games. are you ready tomorrow?
i've been looking for you. my availabilty during the work week (tues-sat) is after 9 pm pst. if that doesn't work we can play sun or mon any time.

[Digitalpackrat]

hey danthechan and digital. would like to finish our games. are you ready tomorrow?

I am off tomorrow so I can play nearly any time. I have a few errands to run so it would be nice to know when you would be available to play. I am on est

[danthechan]

2 with digital. my france loses to japan, and my aztecs win over his russia. write-up to come later.

[Digitalpackrat]

2 with digital. my france loses to japan, and my aztecs win over his russia. write-up to come later.

I swear to you i won that 2nd game. no idea how the game let you finish your attack when you had no cities left but having that 4 pop karahorum was the beginning of the end cause the game gave you every even or slightly in my favor battle, nothing can be done against those odds. its all or nothing with the aztec with that auto heal

[ITZ DENI3D]

This is proving just the same as the last tourney everyone pretty much has the same win-loss ratio. I wonder if we have each player play each other 4 games instead of 2 if it will reduce the luck... Same civs allowed but double the games each civ is used twice, might be a bit hard to keep track of but there might be less 5-10 min decisions I'm not sure...

[GrizzleyTigers4]

This is proving just the same as the last tourney everyone pretty much has the same win-loss ratio. I wonder if we have each player play each other 4 games instead of 2 if it will reduce the luck... Same civs allowed but double the games each civ is used twice, might be a bit hard to keep track of but there might be less 5-10 min decisions I'm not sure...

I think its more of civ choice thats doing a lot of it....people get easy upset with aztecs or zulu for example a lot of times....if you look at the win ratios of this tourney compared to the ones without the top 4 the win loss ratios are much different....4 games would change it im sure....is that too much? not for me but maybe for some....the 3 game idea from Africa tourney worked well in my opinion....

[ITZ DENI3D]

I'm looking at the games people got swept and most of them were not using the top 4... In the games so far the Zulu have only won 3 out of 5 so I'm no so sure it is the top 4.

[Mawpawk]

poor frenchies have lost evry game

[ITZ DENI3D]

poor frenchies have lost evry game

I almost won my first 1 lol :D

[dukeblue1987]

This is proving just the same as the last tourney everyone pretty much has the same win-loss ratio. I wonder if we have each player play each other 4 games instead of 2 if it will reduce the luck... Same civs allowed but double the games each civ is used twice, might be a bit hard to keep track of but there might be less 5-10 min decisions I'm not sure...

It's fine. I've said multiple times that winning 65% of your games against other forum members is really good. The skill gap isn't as big as it used to be between the elite and the rest. Going 9-5 would be 65%.

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Wouldn't mind kinda playing 3 but 4 is too much for the Beast!

[GrizzleyTigers4]

I'm looking at the games people got swept and most of them were not using the top 4... In the games so far the Zulu have only won 3 out of 5 so I'm no so sure it is the top 4.

I think you are misrerpesenting the facts though.....the top 4 are like 15-9 or something in this tournament so far....but 4 or 5 of those losses are to other civs in the top 4 so they shouldnt really count...its more like 11-4.....top 4 vs bottom 10 so it does influence it more.....also mawpawk sucking shades the data as well......somehow mawpawk lost 3 of his top 4 civs games.....

[danthechan]

I swear to you i won that 2nd game. no idea how the game let you finish your attack when you had no cities left but having that 4 pop karahorum was the beginning of the end cause the game gave you every even or slightly in my favor battle, nothing can be done against those odds. its all or nothing with the aztec with that auto heal

that was very wierd. my HA was without a kingdom for a brief second. i did have a good streak of battle wins, but most were to my advantage. here is the recap from my point of view.
settle 2nd turn with 2 trees and a barb. immediatly tech hbr. get out a horse and he meets mongols at a barb. i could give them the city but theirs no food, so i take the gold. its bw instead, but that will come in handy. a 2nd horse heads nw and finds digital's wounded warrior on a hill, defending at 1. next turn we both attack, but he wins the race, and the 1-1 battle. by now i've found egypt w/henge, and shortly after discover the arabs. obviously they are my 1st target, but i know he'll be entering the fray soon. i get an archer in the cap, and take tripoli for religion. he flys in with a HA and takes my cap shortly after for religion. i've got 3 forest in triploli and i start flooding the area between us with archers. meanwhile i head my HA over to the mongol cap to take it. i beat 2 archers and on the 3rd turn he walks next to tripoli and flips it (soc after about 5 turns). at the same moment i beat the mongol warrior and move into my new digs. eith way its not looking good. i have a 4 pop city with 2 trees. he has at least 3 cities, and tripoli with 3 trees. luckily i have the archers in the field to work with. i go to get my cap back. he pulls up 3 tiles away with his HA. i have a vet archer to protect. i take my cap and rush another archer to protect. he flees east to thebes. i try to intercept with a vet AA out of karokorum but he dodges the 9 attack. i know its a dead end up there so i slowly walk my AA and HA up to pin him. he meanwhile uses a gs on IW and sends archers and LA's to karokorum. i have another vet AA watching from a hill and a non vet AA in the city. i turn him back and as he retreats he attacks my elite AA 9-9 with his LA. i win, but he's left with 0 health and i'm wounded. i should have had a GG, but thats ok. i don't know what he did with the LA. at thebes my forces finally back him into a corner and he takes peace to get a free ride to tripoli. i take thebes from a hill, attacking at 12 and 18. i get leadership and slowly bring them back into the action. he keeps sending out single archers, and i keep killing them with my AA. once my other AA gets back i press in on tripoli with my elite HA, a non-vet HA, and the 2 elite AA's. i lose the elite HA 12.5-6 or so, but win a couple 9-8's before he attacks 9-27 and loses the city. i finally get to 100 g and take out a couple more settlers. he has spent everything on holding the area and gives in at this point. with 4 caps i would have been to knights or cats pretty quick after the dust settled.
the 1st game was my french vs japan. he took 7 cities about 6 turns in. for all intents and purposes it was over right then. i took dc, and flipped 1 of his cities, but he was ahead 13-4 in tech when i called it.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Only a few games left, well done guys I think we will have our finals by the end of this weekend if it keeps rolling :)

[Digitalpackrat]

hey danthechan and digital. would like to finish our games. are you ready tomorrow?
what the heck happened to you yesterday ade? I looked for you all day plus havn't seen you on today

[ademoabo68]

what the heck happened to you yesterday ade? I looked for you all day plus havn't seen you on today

Sorry guys. I am in our summerhouse and had to paint it. I will be on tonight though if you have the time..

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[dukeblue1987]

2-0 vs Dan. My first game was easily the best start of a game I've had in quite some time. Japan vs Dan's Arabs. I walk in on English for Monarchy. Find 7 cities a couple turns later. In 2700 BC I had 2 HA's 210 more gold, and was on a hill with both HA overlooking Thebes waiting for Dan to take it. Nothing he could do there. Oh, I was also in medieval since I kept getting techs from huts.

2nd game my Greeks vs his Zulu. I get AW for great wall in maybe 2800. Dan doesn't get any AI caps because 2 of the 3 were behind me. He calls it shortly after. I had a pop 4 library Athens and he couldn't really compete. We both had nothing but the Greeks are so much better than the Zulu when both players have nothing. One of the few things the Greeks are good at.

[MultiPlayaBeast]

MultiPlayaBeast vs Coolhandlelewke

First Game: Multi=Indiana vs Dan=Mongols

This was a great game... especially for Dan's Mongols. I start of with Rubber next to my capital and start pumping out warriors(3). I get my 100g by 2900bc and doing well off with hbr. I get a HA out and head for China who I got to in time before their archer could get to 4 defense. Take them out but notice that Dan was near by due to a named tile. Dan then takes out the Japs for Kyoto at 3 pop. Dan is skeptical of my HA so has archers outside of Kyoto and his HA isn't far away. He starts the war first and kills a warrior of mine and brings a galley near Bejeing. He drops off two archers, a vet warrior army and the HA. I managed to hold them off but didn't kill the HA. I had my HA on a boat that took one of his Mongol cities. I failed to mention that he found AoC as well... Mongol cities... Bad News for me! I make a settler out of the 3 pop city and soon after the city is recaptured by Dan. He has two vet HA and one kills my HA after a fail to capture another one of his cities. Things got quiet after that and expanding started going on.

I got a GB and gb'd oracle early (Crazy huh) but never really went into effect, lol. Dan got irrigation and a GH as well which is nice for Mongols with AoC. Paris was one the map and settled a gb in which Dan took. He eventually gb'd EIC and later on got another gb for Sam's Castle. I was still keeping up with him in tech and had the free market plus some other bonuses. It got to the point that it was simply a tech race until Dan decided to mess with one of my cities on a single tile island I forgot to double defend. Dan then finds LCoA and now it was getting scary as he found it at around 26 tech and had now 29 to my 23. I had a plan from the very beginning that since his Mongol start was soooo good and Dan isn't a bad player that I might need one trick to change the tide; especially with that EIC in his hands.

I had a GL in my barracks city and for 23 turns was saving production in a city I settled with 4 pop with Oak. I had the plan that ends most people they don't put enough pressure on me. I had a GS saved up and was waiting for Combustion to show up on my tech list and it finally did after me teching riflemen. I rush it and then next turn after I finished prod on LW! I had 5 elite tanks from legions I built and another a vet TA. I was already beginning to get attacked by Dan's Mongols at one of my single tile cities but that stopped once he knew what was coming. CruA of his headed back to his land to give support but he just wasn't fully prepared enough. The tanks came and made little work of one city and then I flipped another city and then took another one thereafter... wasn't really nothing much Dan could do from there. Then out of nowhere I see that "Coolhandlewke has left the game" without any pause or anything... perhaps it was a rage quit because he left the party too without a word. GG Dan...
MULTIPLAYABEAST WINS!:D

[ademoabo68]

Ademoabo68 vs Digitalpackrat 1-1

1 game: my Indians vs Digitals Rome; 1-0

2 game: my japan vs Digitals Mongol; 0-1

To late for write-up now, but will do it tomorrow unless Digital do it instead.

[Digitalpackrat]

I split games with ade

game 1 my roman vs ade indians
ade gets all the battle luck, takes one my 100g city with a double injured warrior that i rushed defense in the turn before but wasn't there next turn. ane again wins a 13.5 to 15 for me to finally concede

game 2 my mongols vs ade's japanese
this game again had some gross battle luck. I lost a horse army to his single warrior defended on a hill. I miss the walkin on greece by 1 turn. never take a city til my big attack late in the game. he gets walkin on india and has america nearby but doesn't take them. I do however get KT and AW for GP half way through the game. my first GP is a GB, I sell a bunch of units to get 100 gold settle my 3 pop city and rush a library and CoR and switch to demo. AI america meanwhile finds SoC and ade steals them. in one turn he flips 2 of my cities and rushes monarchy then the next turn uses a GH and a GE for $100g (5 GP in 2 turns that is gross). I get the bonuses for construction at a 4 pop city with 3 hills, get math and nav first. I try to put some pressure on him but he has knights and takes out my cats before they could do much damage. but i find 7CoG and expand with another 7 or 8 cities on whale while ade declares war on america. I had 2 cat armies waiting for ade to attack me which never came so i gathered production and went for steam and built a cruiser fleet in one turn loaded up 3 cat armies and a vet PA on the crusier fleet and headed toward ades cities. I found one lightly defended and took it out but he took it back with a knight army which i destroyed with another cat army and then managed to get my pike army in there just when he attacked again with another vet KA and lost 26.5 to 22.5. that was the beginning of the end. I stole a GB from greece and rushed EITC. he tried very hard but after about 7 turns of at least 5 attacks per turn I finally took his baracks city then picking off the rest was reletively easy. he tried to hold on a bit longer and managed to uses a GS on combustion and lost his tank 10-6 against my KA. He finally conceded. I had combustion next turn and was doing 500 science and 300 gold a turn when he quit

we split games 1-1 GGs

[Digitalpackrat]

looks like we could have a 3+ way tie for 4th, multi, and me, and possibly ade

[ITZ DENI3D]

That just leaves four games left and Dan is in all of them, he will decide who gets to fight for 4th... If Ade wins both of them only the people that went 8-6 and 9-5 get in crazy... I had a feeling 8-6 would be the cut off this time, don't make me wrong Ade! :D

[danthechan]

a rage quit was right multi. i stormed out of the room after that. there was really no reason for it (losing), but i didn't know what trick you had up your sleeve. like your oracle, my sam castle wasn't too valuable. i could have just as easy saved that gb for leo. i'll know next time to watch out for it in tourney long games.
the 4th game of my dasy was my egypt w/henge vs grizz's rome. i started on a big island, with the ark on it. i was going to knock out 3 cities and grab it, then set sail with a HA and archers to see what i could see. i am show 7 cities to the south, so i divert to that. he then finds my ark and i'm pissed. he then gs's feud at 1000 bc. i'm in big trouble. he has also taken all 3 ai caps. i land at the end of his empire with LA's, a HA, and 2 single archers (all vet). we fight back and forth and eventually i hold the 3 cities there, getting leadership and a gg on an AA. i rush the gw but he doesn't see the pop up. he thinks i'm adaring him, but i'm desperately asking for peace so we don't have a controversy. i keep pushing forward slowly, eventually taking his barracks city and getting feud. my gg seperates but i finally take all his northern cities and slowly start heading south. i have 3 KA's, an LA, and the elite AA. i also have a galleon coming in behind him with a CA and AA. he quits after i take paris.

[ITZ DENI3D]

a rage quit was right multi. i stormed out of the room after that. there was really no reason for it (losing), but i didn't know what trick you had up your sleeve. like your oracle, my sam castle wasn't too valuable. i could have just as easy saved that gb for leo. i'll know next time to watch out for it in tourney long games.


Thats his favorite trick, sometimes I like to let him have it if I have modern inf just so he can get his hopes up :D Do you build Galleon fleets sometimes multi when you do that so they get upgraded to cruisers? Mostly you just like to use archers and LA's/HA's to get tanks, I haven't seen you upgrade a galleon fleet yet, I'm guessing because someone else's cruisers would probably kill it... Undoubtedly multi uses LW more than anyone and he does it well, but usually when I have the lead against him it is irrelevant... usually ;)

[GrizzleyTigers4]

a rage quit was right multi. i stormed out of the room after that. there was really no reason for it (losing), but i didn't know what trick you had up your sleeve. like your oracle, my sam castle wasn't too valuable. i could have just as easy saved that gb for leo. i'll know next time to watch out for it in tourney long games.
the 4th game of my dasy was my egypt w/henge vs grizz's rome. i started on a big island, with the ark on it. i was going to knock out 3 cities and grab it, then set sail with a HA and archers to see what i could see. i am show 7 cities to the south, so i divert to that. he then finds my ark and i'm pissed. he then gs's feud at 1000 bc. i'm in big trouble. he has also taken all 3 ai caps. i land at the end of his empire with LA's, a HA, and 2 single archers (all vet). we fight back and forth and eventually i hold the 3 cities there, getting leadership and a gg on an AA. i rush the gw but he doesn't see the pop up. he thinks i'm adaring him, but i'm desperately asking for peace so we don't have a controversy. i keep pushing forward slowly, eventually taking his barracks city and getting feud. my gg seperates but i finally take all his northern cities and slowly start heading south. i have 3 KA's, an LA, and the elite AA. i also have a galleon coming in behind him with a CA and AA. he quits after i take paris.

Oh Ive never been so pissed off in my life this game is a perfect example of how sometimes you can totally outplay your opponent but it doesnt matter. I took 3 caps and he got 7C. He gave me enough time to expand and defend my cities and get counter units before dropping off only 3 LA and a HA with some single archers late. I had 2 archers in each city plus 2 vet fundy HA and 2 vety fundy KA protecting my cities. He takes one city by dropping all his units at the end of the turn. so he has 2 LA's sitting next to my city with a single archer in the trees and i lose both HA's to his single unfortified Archer giving him an upgrade and a GG and then lose my first KA because he forms his AA after I attack but it gave it to him. I then lose some 10+ KA's to this single AA that has these nasty upgrades and GG's because it kept winning. Plus for some reason it never got injured so I couldnt even multi attack it. Then my multiple vet fully forted AA's kept going down without a fight to his LA's. Oh well, had a better empire, better tec, better strategy and way more units but lost every even battle and half in my favor so kersplat I got the big L.....

[Mawpawk]

nice 1 dan FTW!

[ademoabo68]

"ade gets all the battle luck, takes one my 100g city with a double injured warrior that i rushed defense in the turn before but wasn't there next turn"

Yeah, think the gods favored me ;) Strange about your city though. There was no flag when I walked up beside it, and on the following turn it was also empty. Never would have tried to attack it with doubleinjured warrior.

"this game again had some gross battle luck."
It was insane ! Your HA 6 vs my lone warrior 3,5. Wow, didn't see that coming. But I just lost my HA to the americans 6vs4, so guess it's some strange algorythm in the game?

"I had 2 cat armies waiting for ade to attack me which never came"
I had a gs for combustion, 11 cities, two with dye and library, a nice harbour town with marked and two major prod cities. Since Athens divided us, I was having a jolly time banking hammers for leo and let my knights play with the americans. Until you came knocking. Damn ! I used almost 900 gold to keep you off, desperatly teching through riflemen and metallurgy. Nearly made it, but your attacks were so overwhelming I couldn't keep up. Good game. Still a bit rusty and need to get more aggresive ;)

[ademoabo68]

Oh Ive never been so pissed off in my life this game is a perfect example of how sometimes you can totally outplay your opponent but it doesnt matter. I took 3 caps and he got 7C. He gave me enough time to expand and defend my cities and get counter units before dropping off only 3 LA and a HA with some single archers late. I had 2 archers in each city plus 2 vet fundy HA and 2 vety fundy KA protecting my cities. He takes one city by dropping all his units at the end of the turn. so he has 2 LA's sitting next to my city with a single archer in the trees and i lose both HA's to his single unfortified Archer giving him an upgrade and a GG and then lose my first KA because he forms his AA after I attack but it gave it to him. I then lose some 10+ KA's to this single AA that has these nasty upgrades and GG's because it kept winning. Plus for some reason it never got injured so I couldnt even multi attack it. Then my multiple vet fully forted AA's kept going down without a fight to his LA's. Oh well, had a better empire, better tec, better strategy and way more units but lost every even battle and half in my favor so kersplat I got the big L.....

Ha ha, story of the week. Spilled some coffee here because I started laughing and shaking while reading this. I know the feeling Grizz. This game can really get your adrenalin up ;)

[MultiPlayaBeast]

There is some crazy games going on right now. I didn't think there was close to a chance of me being able to get to the wild card or whatever but in the end as I normally do, find a way. Good job Ade holding Digi back from the 8-6, excellent game for you Dan, you really had the civ gods on your side that game and I can only imagine how mad Grizzly is about being shut out of the tourney even after a master strategy plan failing??? I wonder how the outcome of all this be....

[danthechan]

Oh Ive never been so pissed off in my life this game is a perfect example of how sometimes you can totally outplay your opponent but it doesnt matter. I took 3 caps and he got 7C. He gave me enough time to expand and defend my cities and get counter units before dropping off only 3 LA and a HA with some single archers late. I had 2 archers in each city plus 2 vet fundy HA and 2 vety fundy KA protecting my cities. He takes one city by dropping all his units at the end of the turn. so he has 2 LA's sitting next to my city with a single archer in the trees and i lose both HA's to his single unfortified Archer giving him an upgrade and a GG and then lose my first KA because he forms his AA after I attack but it gave it to him. I then lose some 10+ KA's to this single AA that has these nasty upgrades and GG's because it kept winning. Plus for some reason it never got injured so I couldnt even multi attack it. Then my multiple vet fully forted AA's kept going down without a fight to his LA's. Oh well, had a better empire, better tec, better strategy and way more units but lost every even battle and half in my favor so kersplat I got the big L.....
hey, only the victor gets to write revisionist history. don't be so high on your superior strategy, unless it's start by the 3 ai civs while your opponent starts on an island with stonehenge. you could have dropped a KA off after you gs'd it and ended things but you didn't. i did get 7 cities, but not so early. are you sure you were in fundy when i came knocking? i swear my leadership archer won 9-9 to get the gg. i don't remember any LA's beating AA's straight up. the only 1 i got upgraded was from battles. i sure don't remember 10 KA's either. you did attack the AA like 21.5-27 a few times and lost. i healed once in between attacks during that stretch. i had some good luck, but it wasn't the best i've ever seen by far.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Oh Ive never been so pissed off in my life this game is a perfect example of how sometimes you can totally outplay your opponent but it doesnt matter. I took 3 caps and he got 7C. He gave me enough time to expand and defend my cities and get counter units before dropping off only 3 LA and a HA with some single archers late. I had 2 archers in each city plus 2 vet fundy HA and 2 vety fundy KA protecting my cities. He takes one city by dropping all his units at the end of the turn. so he has 2 LA's sitting next to my city with a single archer in the trees and i lose both HA's to his single unfortified Archer giving him an upgrade and a GG and then lose my first KA because he forms his AA after I attack but it gave it to him. I then lose some 10+ KA's to this single AA that has these nasty upgrades and GG's because it kept winning. Plus for some reason it never got injured so I couldnt even multi attack it. Then my multiple vet fully forted AA's kept going down without a fight to his LA's. Oh well, had a better empire, better tec, better strategy and way more units but lost every even battle and half in my favor so kersplat I got the big L.....

Seems like you are blaming it on luck??? Thought we weren't supposed to do that anymore? BTW good job Dan ;)

[ITZ DENI3D]

There is some crazy games going on right now. I didn't think there was close to a chance of me being able to get to the wild card or whatever but in the end as I normally do, find a way. Good job Ade holding Digi back from the 8-6, excellent game for you Dan, you really had the civ gods on your side that game and I can only imagine how mad Grizzly is about being shut out of the tourney even after a master strategy plan failing??? I wonder how the outcome of all this be....

Ur not in yet buddy, you still have to beat Dan ;) and even then Ade can nullify it by beating Dan twice so 7-7 doesn't get in :eek:

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Would write it up nice and stuff but don't feel like it. I had Zulu and Dan had Indians. I take out Mongols, get SoC and AoC. I stole a GA out of Washington so had 3 gp. Dan had got AW and killed some warriors of mine and then went into republic for a bit and spent majority of time in communism. I gs'd Monarchy to keep him in either Communism or switch into Fundy only. Get another gs and gs'd Religion to take away culture bonus from Indians and so I can have fundy WA's if need be. I finally see a city of Dan's and flip... Dan rage quits yet again but we talk it out and basically he said he wasn't wasting time in a game he believed was over. 2-0 MultiPlayaBeast!

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Dan will beat Ade at least once... I predict this to happen... unless Dan throws the games, lol! I will be in the finals.... It has been foretold in prophecies and such.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Dan will beat Ade at least once... I predict this to happen... unless Dan throws the games, lol! I will be in the finals.... It has been foretold in prophecies and such.

If Dan loses it doesn't mean he threw the game... and Ade is pretty good so it is far from impossible... Look forward to seeing it play out :)

[GrizzleyTigers4]

hey, only the victor gets to write revisionist history. don't be so high on your superior strategy, unless it's start by the 3 ai civs while your opponent starts on an island with stonehenge. you could have dropped a KA off after you gs'd it and ended things but you didn't. i did get 7 cities, but not so early. are you sure you were in fundy when i came knocking? i swear my leadership archer won 9-9 to get the gg. i don't remember any LA's beating AA's straight up. the only 1 i got upgraded was from battles. i sure don't remember 10 KA's either. you did attack the AA like 21.5-27 a few times and lost. i healed once in between attacks during that stretch. i had some good luck, but it wasn't the best i've ever seen by far.
Im not going to argue its a waist of time.......as victor you have the right to revise history as you said......GG

[GrizzleyTigers4]

Seems like you are blaming it on luck??? Thought we weren't supposed to do that anymore? BTW good job Dan ;)

You have obviously never listended to a word I say......Ive always said I hate it when people take credit for every win but blame every loss on luck.....I didnt do that did I....and I always admit when I win based on luck.....as you well have noticed

anyways nice job to those who made it.....if yall let packrat come back from 7-7 to win that will be crazy.....but impressive

[ITZ DENI3D]

You have obviously never listended to a word I say......Ive always said I hate it when people take credit for every win but blame every loss on luck.....I didnt do that did I....and I always admit when I win based on luck.....as you well have noticed

anyways nice job to those who made it.....if yall let packrat come back from 7-7 to win that will be crazy.....but impressive

Yes but you get upset with me (mostly) and a few other people if they say they lost because of luck yet you are doing it here, maybe you did get really unlucky I'm not sure but I know you hated it when I was saying I lost because of luck. I openly admitted 9/10 games I win it was likely due to luck yet you had a big problem when I said I got unlucky against you or other people... I actually agree with you about people not blaming it on luck, even if it is based on 80-90% luck and you did get really unlucky you should just say GG and walk away even though you and your opponent both know what happened. Although when other people start talking crap about the game you won that is when you can point out how lucky you or your opponent got...

[ademoabo68]

Hey Dan, are you on tonight?

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Basically when you say Deni3d you won based on luck... you saying you are garbage really.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Basically when you say Deni3d you won based on luck... you saying you are garbage really.

Ya if you say it just like that, or you can say the other guy got lucky against me and he might agree or disagree...

[danthechan]

just finished up with amo. in the 1st, my greeks vs his french, it went pretty long. i had iron and fish in range, and was in between england and france, so i went legions instead of horses. engkand asked for help in war with the french and i got to declare while staying in demo. 1st i've seen of that. i hit him with what i thought would be a suprise of 2 vet LA's, but he had an AA already. then came the 1st big break. he ran a spy out on its own and i captured it. i then landed next to paris and destroyed his cathederal. i went from having no courthouse to him having no cathderal. he also got a gh and ge from the school so, short of invention or theft, he wasn't getting any gp's in the near future. i loaded a 3rd LA and started terrorizing the coastline. i took an aztec city, a french city w/library, and an aztec settler. he took it back but it helped me jumpstart my tech and i took off. when he finally landed and took a 2 whale/dye city with multiple KA's i was teching towards metalurgy and next was a gs for comb. he called it before i pulled it off. greeks win!
the 2nd game was my spain vs his rome. i had a strong start, getting a spy on a 1st turn hut. it named a square and i settled and immediatly teched hbr while taking down a barb. the spy named another square and that, combined with 50 g from the barb, gave me 100 g at 3400. i brought a HA to moscow, and i could see rome on the other side. i should have bypassed it but i needed to vet up anyways. he walked a WA next to it after i took it and i managed to flee before he killed the HA. in the other direction i took out dehli with another HA. after some turns of quiet i grab aw and use my 2 HA's in fundy to take athens. he attacks madrid with a HA but i have vet legions on retainer and overrun his militia cover before he gets a 2nd attack. i use that LA to take a city across the strait, while i'm sending my troops (including cannon from kt)and 2 galleons to form the fleet of doom. he calls it at this point. i went on to find the school and 7 cities in the next 3 or 4 turns.
spain wins!

[ademoabo68]

Good games Dan ! You didn't give me much leverage. Had a small hope that my 4 ka's would be a gamebreaker, but when I scouted your 45 defence, there was nothing left to do.
Same with your blasted fundy LA in our second game. But it was fun as long as it lasted :)

[ITZ DENI3D]

just finished up with amo. in the 1st, my greeks vs his french, it went pretty long. i had iron and fish in range, and was in between england and france, so i went legions instead of horses. engkand asked for help in war with the french and i got to declare while staying in demo. 1st i've seen of that. i hit him with what i thought would be a suprise of 2 vet LA's, but he had an AA already. then came the 1st big break. he ran a spy out on its own and i captured it. i then landed next to paris and destroyed his cathederal. i went from having no courthouse to him having no cathderal. he also got a gh and ge from the school so, short of invention or theft, he wasn't getting any gp's in the near future. i loaded a 3rd LA and started terrorizing the coastline. i took an aztec city, a french city w/library, and an aztec settler. he took it back but it helped me jumpstart my tech and i took off. when he finally landed and took a 2 whale/dye city with multiple KA's i was teching towards metalurgy and next was a gs for comb. he called it before i pulled it off. greeks win!
the 2nd game was my spain vs his rome. i had a strong start, getting a spy on a 1st turn hut. it named a square and i settled and immediatly teched hbr while taking down a barb. the spy named another square and that, combined with 50 g from the barb, gave me 100 g at 3400. i brought a HA to moscow, and i could see rome on the other side. i should have bypassed it but i needed to vet up anyways. he walked a WA next to it after i took it and i managed to flee before he killed the HA. in the other direction i took out dehli with another HA. after some turns of quiet i grab aw and use my 2 HA's in fundy to take athens. he attacks madrid with a HA but i have vet legions on retainer and overrun his militia cover before he gets a 2nd attack. i use that LA to take a city across the strait, while i'm sending my troops (including cannon from kt)and 2 galleons to form the fleet of doom. he calls it at this point. i went on to find the school and 7 cities in the next 3 or 4 turns.
spain wins!

Thanks for the write up but it was a little hard to pull up who won just off of the civs, can you please just put what civs you used first next time and who won so it easier to see? Thanks :)

[ITZ DENI3D]

Ok great job guys on getting your games done :D Looks like Multi and DP are fighting for 4th seed post results here. Maw you and I will play a h2h to see who gets 2nd seed. Alright, lets get rock'n and Rollin!

[Digitalpackrat]

Ok great job guys on getting your games done :D Looks like Multi and DP are fighting for 4th seed post results here. Maw you and I will play a h2h to see who gets 2nd seed. Alright, lets get rock'n and Rollin!

I see multi on all the time i am sure we can get it done by tomorrow

[danthechan]

Thanks for the write up but it was a little hard to pull up who won just off of the civs, can you please just put what civs you used first next time and who won so it easier to see? Thanks :)

i was trying to create a little drama since peoples playoff lives were at stake in those games.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Me v.s. Maw England Mirror match

I get Alphabet from first barb he gets 40g nuff said...

Second game German mirror I have a terrible part of the map but end up getting AW for some fundy warriors. He takes India early I take Kyoto really late 15 turns to my left and eventually take Spain at the northern tip of the map after like 20 turns of fighting for it and I started at the southern end. The turn after I took it he dropped off a bunch of WA and an AA at Madrid at the end of the turn and the next turn they turned into LA's so there was nothing I could do. He gets SoC and flips Kyoto 2 turns after I rushed a barracks in it. My first GP was a builder which I used on EITC but didn't get much out of it since I lost 2 of my caps, I built a few LA's one with a GG from taking Madrid and put it on a galleon. He got Demo from a friendly and GS'd industrialization. He found LCOA and built a cruiser and killed my Galleon with all my armies in it game over...He also GB'd CoR after he took Madrid from me...

[Mawpawk]

yea i was quite surprised we mirrored bothe games.

[ITZ DENI3D]

yea i was quite surprised we mirrored bothe games.

GG's sorry I got a bit testy with you. I was frustrated about the first one and it took me forever to take the caps on the second 1 so I was not in a happy mood. :( and then you wanted me to jump right into a game with point which was not going to happen after that mess... It was pretty funny we picked the same civs though. Honestly it was completely random, I thought he was going India in the second one, I almost went Egyptian lol. :D

[Mawpawk]

no problem i have been known 2 get grouchy at home when i get frustrated, i liked that german game as the difference between my game and yours was i had concentrated cities and production, plus i took an a.i cap a lot sooner than you so i had xtra resources for a lot longer, but my colossus city was rocking 100bpt and more gold as i had settled a GE ,that GB i used COR was my first GP and on that same turn i got a humantarian and GA but also got quickly monarchy and invention + 500gld Gps the game went from balanced 2 david n goliath real quick but this giant was wearing cruiser fleets for shoes

[ITZ DENI3D]

no problem i have been known 2 get grouchy at home when i get frustrated, i liked that german game as the difference between my game and yours was i had concentrated cities and production, plus i took an a.i cap a lot sooner than you so i had xtra resources for a lot longer, but my colossus city was rocking 100bpt and more gold as i had settled a GE ,that GB i used COR was my first GP and on that same turn i got a humantarian and GA but also got quickly monarchy and invention + 500gld Gps the game went from balanced 2 david n goliath real quick but this giant was wearing cruiser fleets for shoes

Ya, I took both the caps at around 500 A.D. so it was very late, they were both basically as far away from me as they could possibly be...

[dukeblue1987]

So Pawk in the finals? It wasn't really clear because you said you would play a game for 2nd seed (which would serve no purpose).

[Digitalpackrat]

So Pawk in the finals? It wasn't really clear because you said you would play a game for 2nd seed (which would serve no purpose).

oh you are right, I was about to correct you, but there is no reason to determine who was 2nd and 3rd because 2nd and 3rd play each other anyways so it didn't matter. all that really matters is 4th between multi and I to determine who plays you. hmmm

[dukeblue1987]

oh you are right, I was about to correct you, but there is no reason to determine who was 2nd and 3rd because 2nd and 3rd play each other anyways so it didn't matter. all that really matters is 4th between multi and I to determine who plays you. hmmm

I supose they could play a game to see who gets to host first. But who would host the game that detirmines seed?! haha

[ITZ DENI3D]

I supose they could play a game to see who gets to host first. But who would host the game that detirmines seed?! haha

Ya he is in finals. He said he would just give me host but it didn't even matter lol..

[dukeblue1987]

Ya he is in finals. He said he would just give me host but it didn't even matter lol..

Ugh. MawPawk is my kryptonite....

Anyways, nice run at it denied.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Ugh. MawPawk is my kryptonite....

Anyways, nice run at it denied.

Lol were it so easy... You still have to make it to the finals buddy ;)

[dukeblue1987]

Lol were it so easy... You still have to make it to the finals buddy ;)

haha I never said I didn't.

[ITZ DENI3D]

haha I never said I didn't.

Guess you can consider yourself lucky if you don't have to run into him at the finals then if he is your kryptonite :D

[ITZ DENI3D]

I love these tournys :D I'm thinking there could be a 8 player round robin champion bracket like with the regular six man tourney... That would be pretty awesome... It's been like a month and we already basically have 2 finalists? I think it could work... No other tournys can you see match ups like Mongols V.S. Zulu and watch the Mongols win lol. I think that is the coolest part is strategizing which civs you want to use for which opponents or if you just want to get rid of all your worse civs in the beginning or use your best. I think that is why people like it so much, at least that is why I do. That and adding 4 more civs to the mix makes it more fun as well :D

[dukeblue1987]

I love these tournys :D I'm thinking there could be a 8 player round robin champion bracket like with the regular six man tourney... That would be pretty awesome... It's been like a month and we already basically have 2 finalists? I think it could work... No other tournys can you see match ups like Mongols V.S. Zulu and watch the Mongols win lol. I think that is the coolest part is strategizing which civs you want to use for which opponents or if you just want to get rid of all your worse civs in the beginning or use your best. I think that is why people like it so much, at least that is why I do. That and adding 4 more civs to the mix makes it more fun as well :D

I would say we could go as high as 4 tourneys. Otherwise you will have 8 finalists so pretty much everyone will be a finalist. Would there even be 8 people to play the last bracket? (because there would be 7 people who couldn't play)

[ITZ DENI3D]

I would say we could go as high as 4 tourneys. Otherwise you will have 8 finalists so pretty much everyone will be a finalist. Would there even be 8 people to play the last bracket? (because there would be 7 people who couldn't play)


Ya I was thinking that but there are new people on and maybe Scottie, Jack and Liam might get in on a couple as well. Perhaps you are right... Well it sounded good :D

[danthechan]

no way we could do 8 seperate brackets. i was thinking of 2, and the top 4 from each move on to a winners bracket. ideally we would have 16 players to pull this off so bracket 2 isn't half full of bracket 1 retreads.

[GrizzleyTigers4]

no way we could do 8 seperate brackets. i was thinking of 2, and the top 4 from each move on to a winners bracket. ideally we would have 16 players to pull this off so bracket 2 isn't half full of bracket 1 retreads.

Honestly I like the idea of just letting the two winners play for the super champ ...the round robbin has 6 and takes half the year to get done....these seem to move quickly...if we just did two we could play more......

[Digitalpackrat]

Multi and I got our games in to decide who would get the 4th spot
I won 2-0

1st game was My egypt (oracle) vs Multi greece
2nd game My aztec vs his arabs

[ITZ DENI3D]

Multi and I got our games in to decide who would get the 4th spot
I won 2-0

1st game was My egypt (oracle) vs Multi greece
2nd game My aztec vs his arabs

So you play duke now.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Honestly I like the idea of just letting the two winners play for the super champ ...the round robbin has 6 and takes half the year to get done....these seem to move quickly...if we just did two we could play more......

I want to win one of these damn it :D I went out in first one to prey by him getting a friendly right next to me. Then against Mawpawk I got alphabet from my first barb ARGHHHHH!!! I loved how we picked the same civs twice though, think Mawpawk has been playing me to much ;)

[ITZ DENI3D]

Alright guys its the weekend so you should be able to wrap this up hopefully...

[ITZ DENI3D]

Hey Duke after your done with Remo do you think you could try to play Digitalpackrat?

[Digitalpackrat]

He could try but I will not be around. Its one thing to stop by the forum but I doubt I will be on civ during the week. I have family in town through friday

[dukeblue1987]

He could try but I will not be around. Its one thing to stop by the forum but I doubt I will be on civ during the week. I have family in town through friday

Then we will shoot for Sunday night or next week.

[dukeblue1987]

Hi all,

Schedule is going to be tight in the next upcoming weeks. I will be able to play May 13th evening thru May 17th. Then I won't be on my xbox until May 29th. So please work with me here and we can try to get all my games in before the 18th.

[Digitalpackrat]

Sunday should be fine. Give me an idea when you will be on

[ITZ DENI3D]

I hope you guys can get your games done today. This tournament went from the quickest one to one of the slower ones in a hurry lol.

[dukeblue1987]

I hope you guys can get your games done today. This tournament went from the quickest one to one of the slower ones in a hurry lol.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, this is still one of the fastest in 2k forum history....

[dukeblue1987]

3 games with Digital. None of the very entertaining. I won 2-1.

First 4 with Mawpawk were not very entertaining. 2-2 split.

Final game was a really really fun. My Spanish vs his Indians. I got a whale in my cap but not much else going on. Maw ends up with all 3 AI caps getting the Greeks really late due to Fundy. I started near the Greeks but decided not to attack since my HA wasn't even vet. I take my HA on a boat to Maw's 100g city. I make him build about 6 archers but he eventually defends but I manage to keep my HA by getting it back on the boat.

I find AW for GP! Game changer here. I expand in republic a bit. Mawpawk comes and attack my cap (last one he needs) 13.5 to 13 (vet fundy HA vs archer army half fortified with galleon defense. He retreats b/c it looks bad. Had he won that battle he would have taken the cap.

I get a vet galleon fleet, 3 legion armies and my HA and a bunch of random archers and militia and attack him but don't make much progress. I also find the arc for temples and SoC after my 1st GP. I got 2 GE and a GA. Blah. The GA I moved around 3-4 different cities trying to nab a good one. I end up getting kyoto which is nothing special but its Pop 4 and a cap.

We fight some more and exchange a few cities but nothing major. I think I end up 1 city on top. He uses a GB for EITC in Athens. Here is where I make my move. I drop off 2 legion armies, HA, archers, 2 spies and have a vet galleon fleet. Destory walls, destroy defense fortification and kill his pike army and take the city. Now I'm making about 200 science a turn (athens was pop 6 with a library). I catch up really quick in tech and the overflow lets me defend. I take a few more cities and MawPawk calls it. Epic game, at least from my side.

So I win the finals 3-2!

[Mawpawk]

yea that was a gd game and a great move taking athens i had fooled myself into thinking that athens was safe,

[Liam_Sutty]

I really want to play in the next 8 man tourney after missing the last two!! Will try and keep my eyes peeled this time! ;-)

[ITZ DENI3D]

3 games with Digital. None of the very entertaining. I won 2-1.

First 4 with Mawpawk were not very entertaining. 2-2 split.

Final game was a really really fun. My Spanish vs his Indians. I got a whale in my cap but not much else going on. Maw ends up with all 3 AI caps getting the Greeks really late due to Fundy. I started near the Greeks but decided not to attack since my HA wasn't even vet. I take my HA on a boat to Maw's 100g city. I make him build about 6 archers but he eventually defends but I manage to keep my HA by getting it back on the boat.

I find AW for GP! Game changer here. I expand in republic a bit. Mawpawk comes and attack my cap (last one he needs) 13.5 to 13 (vet fundy HA vs archer army half fortified with galleon defense. He retreats b/c it looks bad. Had he won that battle he would have taken the cap.

I get a vet galleon fleet, 3 legion armies and my HA and a bunch of random archers and militia and attack him but don't make much progress. I also find the arc for temples and SoC after my 1st GP. I got 2 GE and a GA. Blah. The GA I moved around 3-4 different cities trying to nab a good one. I end up getting kyoto which is nothing special but its Pop 4 and a cap.

We fight some more and exchange a few cities but nothing major. I think I end up 1 city on top. He uses a GB for EITC in Athens. Here is where I make my move. I drop off 2 legion armies, HA, archers, 2 spies and have a vet galleon fleet. Destory walls, destroy defense fortification and kill his pike army and take the city. Now I'm making about 200 science a turn (athens was pop 6 with a library). I catch up really quick in tech and the overflow lets me defend. I take a few more cities and MawPawk calls it. Epic game, at least from my side.

So I win the finals 3-2!

Nice job fellas ;) and good job everyone else. I guess you and Prey can play whenever you want to see who is the ultimate 8 man champion!

[Mawpawk]

Nice job fellas ;) and good job everyone else. I guess you and Prey can play whenever you want to see who is the ultimate 8 man champion!

i had a great time in this tourney thanks 2 all participents

[ITZ DENI3D]

i had a great time in this tourney thanks 2 all participents

I know you want to win one of these Mawpawk as do I :D Don't worry in the next one you can lose to me ;)

[dukeblue1987]

yea that was a gd game and a great move taking athens i had fooled myself into thinking that athens was safe,

Felt good to finally take a good game from you. I think the last couple that were close went your way.

[forum]

Can U play wednesday night Duke? Around 10 gmt+1?

[dukeblue1987]

Can U play wednesday night Duke? Around 10 gmt+1?


I can play starting at 5 PMT CST which I believe is 11 PM GMT+1. Will this work?

[REM018]

I can play starting at 5 PMT CST which I believe is 11 PM GMT+1. Will this work?

Don't let him fool ya :-D Chicago is 7 hours behind central Europe. So 5 pm Chicago is midnight CET

[forum]

Don't let him fool ya :-D Chicago is 7 hours behind central Europe. So 5 pm Chicago is midnight CET


The reason why the yankees win so much in this game - we Europeans are always dead tired :-)

[forum]

I can play starting at 5 PMT CST which I believe is 11 PM GMT+1. Will this work?

Thats ok for me if u promise to not attack me before 3800 bc

[dukeblue1987]

Don't let him fool ya :-D Chicago is 7 hours behind central Europe. So 5 pm Chicago is midnight CET

Well it looks like we are both right. Chicago is GMT -5. But according to Google, CET time is not observed this time of the year and you are really on CEST with is GMT +2.

All I know is I can play at 5 PM CST on Wednesday.

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Nice job Duke, bout time you win something big being a great.

[dukeblue1987]

Nice job Duke, bout time you win something big being a great.

Well considering I won one of the biggest tourneys in forum history and then didn't play for about a year... thanks! But this isn't a big tourney by any means. Just 8 guys fighting it out.

[japyaknees]

Duke could you record final betwern you and forum? Do it for all the loyal civ rev playets around the world! :)

[REM018]

Well it looks like we are both right. Chicago is GMT -5. But according to Google, CET time is not observed this time of the year and you are really on CEST with is GMT +2.

All I know is I can play at 5 PM CST on Wednesday.

Well I don't want to be nit-picky, but well, what the heck, I am going to be it anyways - otherwise somebody is going to start with a 1 hour head-start :-D

Chicago is currently on CDT, which is GMT-5 hours. In the winter you guys are on CST, which is GMT-6 hours.
In central Europe, we are currently on CEST, which is GMT+2. In the winter we are on CET, which is GMT+1.

So the time difference is almost always 7 hours. Except for those 2-3 weeks where the U.S. switches to DST earlier and switches out of it later.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=64
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=37

[dukeblue1987]

Like a typical American, all I know is my time zone is GMT -5 right now ;)

@Prey - does this still work for you?

[forum]

Like a typical American, all I know is my time zone is GMT -5 right now ;)

@Prey - does this still work for you?

Ok for me Duke. Off work thursday(norways national day)

[Liam_Sutty]

Can I be off work on thursday to celebrate Norways National day too?? I'm not Norwegian, nor do I live in Norway but I still want to celebrate!!

Is anyone else having problems with the quick reply where it trys to reload the page and you have to copy and paste what you have written?

Also I've missed the last two of these tournaments because the signup gets done when I'm not at work which is the only time I come on this forum. Can I baggsy a spot? Put dibs on it?? ;-)

[dukeblue1987]

Can I be off work on thursday to celebrate Norways National day too?? I'm not Norwegian, nor do I live in Norway but I still want to celebrate!!

Is anyone else having problems with the quick reply where it trys to reload the page and you have to copy and paste what you have written?

Also I've missed the last two of these tournaments because the signup gets done when I'm not at work which is the only time I come on this forum. Can I baggsy a spot? Put dibs on it?? ;-)

There seems to be a problem with replying to a post with emoticons...

[japyaknees]

I will ask again duke since you seemed to not respond to my question... is it possible for you to record the games between you and forum and post them?

[dukeblue1987]

I will ask again duke since you seemed to not respond to my question... is it possible for you to record the games between you and forum and post them?

Maybe... At minimum it would require a few hours of my time. And that would be for the bare minimum... no voice over, editing, etc. They certainly wouldnt get uplaoded for a few weeks since I'll be on vacation.

[japyaknees]

If the games are actually good it would be so nice to watch... even without sound or editing. Just something to consider. The civ rev community would really appreciate it. Even though you dont know me at all you actually taught me how to really play this game with your videos. I knew how to "play" because I had played 1000's of MP games but I didn't have a real grasp of what it took to really be good.

[dukeblue1987]

If the games are actually good it would be so nice to watch... even without sound or editing. Just something to consider. The civ rev community would really appreciate it. Even though you dont know me at all you actually taught me how to really play this game with your videos. I knew how to "play" because I had played 1000's of MP games but I didn't have a real grasp of what it took to really be good.

And I wonder why I lost my competitive advantage! ;)

[dukeblue1987]

@Prey - I will be online within 30 minutes. Get ready to rumble :)

Are we playing best of 5? 7? 11? 21?

[forum]

hour from now for me. little delay here..... u can choose how many games. I will beat u anyway lol. Just warmed up taking a title from Digital.

[dukeblue1987]

Well Prey is the champ.

Here are my 4 losses.

His Zulu starts very close and I get tech from hut.
His Arab starts very close and I get tech from 1st hut and vet upgrade from hut.
Barbs take my city even though I don't even see a barb around 3400.
English AI take my cap around 3300 and I had 0 gold.

I won 2 games. 1 was stupid me taking his settler in 3700. The other was a pretty good game that I won Aztecs vs Aztecs.

Probably one of the least fun nights of civ I have ever had. I would say good games but 5/6 were not good games. So I guess good game. I'm getting tired of how stupid this game can be.

[japyaknees]

congratulation prey. good job on the big win. I feel in civ... 5 out of 10 games are already lost from the beginning(map positioning, ai close by, artifacts close by, what or what you dont get from hut/barbs, etc.). The other five are won by decision making. looks like duke got a couple of those games. good job anyway prey.

[forum]

Hmm, Duke played well.....just forgot to protect his cities a couple of times:-) Barbs and English can be hard to defend against.

He won the "real game" Aztec vs Aztec, but I felt he had the map and gold.
First game where I was Zulu against his Arab shows how stupid Zuku can be- Me cleaning the map with 3 Impi Armies early.
Not easy to do anything against that even with Arab and specially with no gold.

Had high hopes for some good games but that did'nt happen. Still satisfied when I won, but a little bad taste in my mouth I have to admit.

[dukeblue1987]

congratulation prey. good job on the big win. I feel in civ... 5 out of 10 games are already lost from the beginning(map positioning, ai close by, artifacts close by, what or what you dont get from hut/barbs, etc.). The other five are won by decision making. looks like duke got a couple of those games. good job anyway prey.

FYI I recorded the games but they were not really worth posting. The Aztec game would be OK I suppose...

[forum]

FYI I recorded the games but they were not really worth posting. The Aztec game would be OK I suppose...

Sure you can post the Aztec game, but what I really want to see(and not because the games where good) is the barb walk in and the last one when u where Spain. Just a little fun to see how you could be so unlucky .If it's not to much work u can post first Zulu Arab game and Aztec as a whole, and make a vid of the other 4 in one video.

Guess it's not fun for anyone but me, but fun for me to see where u started and what u did or what u could not do.....And don't put my voice in any!!

[JackHall2003]

Hey forum, Man you're on fire. Taking this from duke, beating Digital in a best of 3 and sweeping the World Champ in the league - nice work!

[SVPM]

Hey forum, Man you're on fire. Taking this from duke, beating Digital in a best of 3 and sweeping the World Champ in the league - nice work!

This should give some more respect to the skill on the PS3 side... He ''only'' did a 7-7 results in the PS3 tourney...

[forum]

This should give some more respect to the skill on the PS3 side... He ''only'' did a 7-7 results in the PS3 tourney...

There are some good players on PS3 - no doubt about that. When that is said, I have to say that at least 6 out of 7 losses came out of some of the worst starts I have ever seen. Eks. Zulu starting 30-40 tiles from nearest ai-Egypt starting with stonhenge 4 tiles from Germany and so on.
Will not say I would have won with better starts, but I don't think anyone in here could win with those starts.

I do think so of the best PS3 players could give u XBOX players a real match:-)

[ScottieX]

Clearly SVPM is the best player in the world. .and Marioo is 2nd best :)

[SVPM]

Clearly SVPM is the best player in the world. .and Marioo is 2nd best :)

That sums it all I think... ;)

[SVPM]

There are some good players on PS3 - no doubt about that. When that is said, I have to say that at least 6 out of 7 losses came out of some of the worst starts I have ever seen. Eks. Zulu starting 30-40 tiles from nearest ai-Egypt starting with stonhenge 4 tiles from Germany and so on.
Will not say I would have won with better starts, but I don't think anyone in here could win with those starts.

I do think so of the best PS3 players could give u XBOX players a real match:-)

I was kidding. I have no doubt that Xbox players are in general better than PS3 players. That the best also are there too, but there is some good players on PS3 too.

I must be far from being a great/above good player on the Xbox side (forum speaking not ranked), but I could give some good game to some as you say.

[Mawpawk]

well done prey, you are on fire like a pariah (nt sure what that is but it ryhmes)

[ScottieX]

There are some good players on PS3 - no doubt about that. When that is said, I have to say that at least 6 out of 7 losses came out of some of the worst starts I have ever seen.

so who was the player that beat you properly? (just to see who is good). Sounds like that Star game?
I hear that dukes videos have trained that jappy dude to be pretty good now, I might have backed him to be the arse kicker.

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Forum, you definitely are doing big things man! Keep up the good work!

[GrizzleyTigers4]

well done prey, you are on fire like a pariah (nt sure what that is but it ryhmes)

It didnt rhyme till I said like an new zealander.:D .......but you just called prey an outcast :confused:

[japyaknees]

The good PS3 players can definitely hold their own versus xbox players in my opinion. Its just not as many good players over on the PS3 side. On another note... Scottie do you still have your PS3? If so would you be interested in playing in our 8 man round robin tourney?

[GrizzleyTigers4]

The good PS3 players can definitely hold their own versus xbox players in my opinion. Its just not as many good players over on the PS3 side. On another note... Scottie do you still have your PS3? If so would you be interested in playing in our 8 man round robin tourney?

I guess we will never really know unless we all could crossplay as 1 xbox player in 1 tourney doesnt really prove anything.....it stinks for yall that we stole some of your players like scottie etc....ha....if I had a copy Id play you guys but I had an xbox so buying this game for ps3 didnt make any sense to me after I noticed how much harder it was to find ranked games....

[SVPM]

The good PS3 players can definitely hold their own versus xbox players in my opinion. Its just not as many good players over on the PS3 side. On another note... Scottie do you still have your PS3? If so would you be interested in playing in our 8 man round robin tourney?

There is good players, but every player that crosse from PS to Xbox told the competition was higher there and they improve their gameplay.