Secret Weapon - when to build?

[Fox Nemhauser]

Hi there,

does the battle have to be in progress for this special wonder to work or can it be also build when you are waiting for the battle to start?

It also says "certain units" - how specific is it? "all melee" or maybe just "phalanx".. or maybe just one random slot of units?

cheers

[Ander Clayton]

Secret weapon kills all melee. You build it when you want to kill your opp's (or I guess whoever's fight is in progress) troops--it goes off immediately.

[AJM/FTL]

Secret Weapons works fine in the waiting phase. The wiki provides you with the information which units are affected.

[Fox Nemhauser]

kills all melee? so if the have like 5000 riflemen and we build it - it will crush it all? seems too much OP to be the truth to be honest...


anyway the other question was: do i need to wait for the actual battle to start or will it work also when we wait for it to begin? (few hours till it starts)

[Ander Clayton]

Oops. Half of the melee units. :p (all types of melee)

It goes off when you buy it.

[Fox Nemhauser]

didn't see AJM/FTL's post while i was replying.. thanks :-)

the wiki is kind of scarce so i wanted to make sure ("Secret Weapon is a Wonder Event that can be built from the Wonders screen. It destroys half of all Melee units defending against an attack from the civilization. "

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anyway, we just did it and dropped their forces from 15000 to 7500 :-)

[Ander Clayton]

I'm kinda curious as to whether you could do it more than once...

[random user]

Unless it's changed, it also takes out half of ranged, despite not stating so on the wiki, and yes if it comes up again, you can do it again.

[Fox Nemhauser]

even if it would pop again as a possible wonder to build, we won't have resources to pull it off again.. only 3 of us are active here :/


@random user, seems so - they had three catapults and now they have only one

[BryanS]

You said it can be built while you are waiting for the battle to begin but can you also build it during the fighting of the batlle? If so what if you are in multiple battles does it effect all of them? Do these effect only units that are in the battle or all units including those on the sideline? Same question with Call to Arms.

[robin74]

You said it can be built while you are waiting for the battle to begin but can you also build it during the fighting of the batlle?
Yes

If so what if you are in multiple battles does it effect all of them?
Yes, all of them.

Do these effect only units that are in the battle or all units including those on the sideline? Same question with Call to Arms.
It affects units in the battlefields.

[random user]

Oh oh oh I have a question that maybe someone can answer.

Let's say you are a 3rd party to a battle between two civs. You decide you want to help defend so you put some of your troops down. If you activate call to arms, does it help the battle you are in as if it were your own battle?

[Monthar]

Never-mind.

[Kalis]

Call to arms takes out 50% of all melee units and 50% of all ranged units except horse archers, bombers, and rocket artillery.
Secret Weapon takes out 50% of all melee units.

But both only affect the units that have been placed on the battlefield. So the best time to build it is if/when the enemy has placed almost all their units on it.

[ahtrap]

And, yes, a secret weapon can be used twice within the sphere of the same battle, if the invaders are lucky enough to have it come up twice. Unfortunately, in a battle that commenced at 4 am, that was exactly the situation, with no CTA in sight.

[random user]

Call to arms takes out 50% of all melee units and 50% of all ranged units except horse archers, bombers, and rocket artillery.
Secret Weapon takes out 50% of all melee units.

But both only affect the units that have been placed on the battlefield. So the best time to build it is if/when the enemy has placed almost all their units on it.

As stated in this very thread, secret weapon also affects (at least some) ranged units.